From http-state-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Thu Nov 1 06:14:56 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id GAA10152 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 06:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA3144405 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:06:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: lists.bell-labs.com mailing list memberships reminder From: mailman-owner@lists.bell-labs.com To: spirits-archive@ietf.org X-No-Archive: yes X-Ack: no Sender: http-state-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: http-state-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: http-state@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <20011101100631.EBA3144405@lists.bell-labs.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 05:06:31 -0500 (EST) This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your lists.bell-labs.com mailing list memberships. 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Passwords for spirits-archive@lists.ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- spirits@lists.bell-labs.com QMKP http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/options/spirits/spirits-archive%40lists.ietf.org From spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Fri Nov 9 12:28:37 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA19848 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:28:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4947544337; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:20:02 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F72144336 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Fri Nov 9 12:22:15 EST 2001 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 0D1DD4439E; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:13:25 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (ih2mail.ih.lucent.com [135.1.241.39]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF4E4439D for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lucent.com by ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id LAA01089; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:13:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BEC0EA0.5FD8FF36@lucent.com> From: Vijay Gurbani Organization: Lucent Technologies/Bell Laboratories X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [SPIRITS] SPIRITS Event I-D Sender: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF SPIRITS Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/spirits/ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:13:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks: I have submitted an I-D as a first attempt at defining the SIP Event package for SPIRITS. The I-D is titled "Towards the Definition of the SIP Events Package for SPIRITS Protocol". If people want a copy before it appears in the I-D repository, please send me private email and I will forward you a copy. The basic contents of the I-D are the definition of the SIP Events package for SPIRITS. There are a couple of ways to carry relevant information in SUB/NOT extensions. These are detailed in section 4.1 and 4.2. We should probably discuss the pros and cons of these on the mailing list in antici- pation of the upcoming IETF meeting. Another issue that should be discussed before the IETF is outlined in section 6. This email is more of a "heads-up"; as soon as the I-D is in the repository, I will send a reminder email for a broader discussion (my public web page appears not to be working, otherwise I would have posted the I-D there!) Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani vkg@{lucent.com,research.bell-labs.com,acm.org} Internet Software and eServices Group Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Innovations, 2000 Lucent Lane, Rm 6G-440 Naperville, Illinois 60566 Voice: +1 630 224 0216 Fax: +1 630 713 0184 _______________________________________________ SPIRITS mailing list SPIRITS@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/spirits From spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Nov 19 08:01:58 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA26193 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D3E4434E; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:52:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from m2-pasarela3.airtel.es (unknown [212.73.32.197]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47DE44348 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:51:43 -0500 (EST) To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com From: jgato@airtel.es Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on M2-SMTP3/AIRTEL(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 11/19/2001 02:01:42 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [SPIRITS] Notification of events using SPIRITS Sender: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF SPIRITS Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/spirits/ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:56:26 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by ietf.org id IAA26193 Hi, I just wanted to support Vijay's proposal to include the DP specific info in the body of the Notify message, The idea in the I-D "Toward the Definition of the SIP Events Package for SPIRITS protocol" is to use a different sub-package for each event. Although this will increase a bit the size of the signalling message, I think it makes a clearer protocol, and there is just a Subscriber message for the events (not one per event). Best regards, Jorge Gato Vodafone Espaņa _______________________________________________ SPIRITS mailing list SPIRITS@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/spirits From spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Nov 26 10:16:56 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA02359 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8434435E; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:06:02 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B5C9044352 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Mon Nov 26 10:11:22 EST 2001 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id 5F7F04439E; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:02:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (ih2mail.ih.lucent.com [135.1.241.39]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6324439D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from lucent.com by ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id JAA18647; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:02:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C025A80.F1D6352B@lucent.com> From: Alec Brusilovsky Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SPIRITS list Cc: Steve Bellovin , jbakker@telcordia.com, wamontgomery@ieee.org, Rebecca.Copeland@marconi.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FA9B68BF6E4D41DDBA6EDBAD" Subject: [SPIRITS] SPIRITS meeting agenda Sender: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF SPIRITS Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/spirits/ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:06:40 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FA9B68BF6E4D41DDBA6EDBAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ladies and Gentlemen, There are certain issues that I have to address in this pre-IETF E-mail: A. agenda@ietf.org has allocated a meeting slot for our session in Salt Lake City: Tuesday, December 11, from 17:00 through 18:00 This time slot has a conflict with the SIPPING WG session and I am trying to resolve it with agenda@ietf.org. Hopefully, we will get a positive response from agenda@ietf.org and I will post a follow-up E-mail here. B. Proposed meeting agenda: 1. Agenda bashing - 5 min. 2. SPIRITS issues in the ITU-T - Hui-Lan Lu - 2 min. 3. Current status of SPIRITS Protocol Requirements - Informational RFC candidate - 3 min. 4. SIP Events Package for the SPIRITS protocol - discussion - Igor Faynberg - 15 min. 5. On XML generation and encoding of SPIRITS parameters - John-Luc Bakker - 10 min. 6. On the outline of the SPIRITS Protocol document - discussion - 15 min. 7. Services requiring PSTN presence information - Rebecca Copeland - 5 min. (only if time allows) 8. Conclusions - 5 min. This proposed agenda is quite dense. I would like to ask all speakers to E-mail me their charts ahead of time, so we can put them on a single laptop. Please let Steve or myself know if you have a burning issue to discuss at the meeting. Also, it is time for outlining the SPIRITS Protocol document, and we have pretty much all the components in place for that. Kind regards, Alec Brusilovsky --------------FA9B68BF6E4D41DDBA6EDBAD Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Alec Brusilovsky Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Brusilovsky;Alec tel;fax:+1 630 713 5840 tel;work:+1 630 713 8401 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:e-Services Group;Next Generation Evolution and Architecture version:2.1 email;internet:abrusilovsky@lucent.com title:MTS adr;quoted-printable:;;Room 6H-438=0D=0A2000 Lucent Lane,;Naperville;IL;60566;U S x-mozilla-cpt:;5280 fn:Alec Brusilovsky end:vcard --------------FA9B68BF6E4D41DDBA6EDBAD-- _______________________________________________ SPIRITS mailing list SPIRITS@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/spirits From spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Mon Nov 26 11:24:55 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA08171 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70AB44363; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 37B914435E for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Mon Nov 26 11:18:23 EST 2001 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id C91634439E; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:09:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (ih2mail.ih.lucent.com [135.1.241.39]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84AF84439D for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lucent.com by ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id KAA26301; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:09:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C026A34.5B2D3336@lucent.com> From: Alec Brusilovsky Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Cc: Steve Bellovin , jbakker@telcordia.com, wamontgomery@ieee.org, Rebecca.Copeland@marconi.com Subject: Re: [SPIRITS] SPIRITS meeting agenda References: <3C025A80.F1D6352B@lucent.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4396B483F4740E97E52F4389" Sender: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF SPIRITS Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/spirits/ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:13:40 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4396B483F4740E97E52F4389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ladies and Gentlemen, One more thing: Speakers are not supposed to "present I-Ds", but rather focus on issues. People coming to the meeting are expected to be familiar with I-Ds to be discussed. Thanks to Steve for pointing that out. Regards, Alec Alec Brusilovsky wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > There are certain issues that I have to address in this > pre-IETF E-mail: > > A. agenda@ietf.org has allocated a meeting slot for our > session in Salt Lake City: > Tuesday, December 11, from 17:00 through 18:00 > This time slot has a conflict with the SIPPING WG session > and I am trying to resolve it with agenda@ietf.org. > Hopefully, we will get a positive response from > agenda@ietf.org and I will post a follow-up E-mail here. > > B. Proposed meeting agenda: > > 1. Agenda bashing - 5 min. > 2. SPIRITS issues in the ITU-T - Hui-Lan Lu - 2 min. > 3. Current status of SPIRITS Protocol Requirements - > Informational RFC candidate - 3 min. > 4. SIP Events Package for the SPIRITS protocol - discussion > - Igor Faynberg - 15 min. > 5. On XML generation and encoding of SPIRITS parameters - > John-Luc Bakker - 10 min. > 6. On the outline of the SPIRITS Protocol document - > discussion - 15 min. > 7. Services requiring PSTN presence information - Rebecca > Copeland - 5 min. (only if time allows) > 8. Conclusions - 5 min. > > This proposed agenda is quite dense. I would like to ask all > speakers to E-mail me their charts ahead of time, so we can > put them on a single laptop. > Please let Steve or myself know if you have a burning issue > to discuss at the meeting. > Also, it is time for outlining the SPIRITS Protocol > document, and we have pretty much all the components in > place for that. > > Kind regards, > Alec Brusilovsky --------------4396B483F4740E97E52F4389 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Alec Brusilovsky Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="abrusilovsky.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Brusilovsky;Alec tel;fax:+1 630 713 5840 tel;work:+1 630 713 8401 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:e-Services Group;Next Generation Evolution and Architecture version:2.1 email;internet:abrusilovsky@lucent.com title:MTS adr;quoted-printable:;;Room 6H-438=0D=0A2000 Lucent Lane,;Naperville;IL;60566;U S x-mozilla-cpt:;5280 fn:Alec Brusilovsky end:vcard --------------4396B483F4740E97E52F4389-- _______________________________________________ SPIRITS mailing list SPIRITS@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/spirits From spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Wed Nov 28 15:27:13 2001 Received: from lists.bell-labs.com (share.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.58]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07738 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from share.research.bell-labs.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55CE443B3; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:16:01 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@share.research.bell-labs.com Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A9B8443A9 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists.bell-labs.com ([135.104.27.211]) by crufty; Wed Nov 28 15:22:00 EST 2001 Received: by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) id D8C474439E; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:13:23 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Received: from ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (ih2mail.ih.lucent.com [135.1.241.39]) by lists.bell-labs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D96F4439D for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from lucent.com by ih2mail.ih.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id OAA18562; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:13:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C054528.3D195A4B@lucent.com> From: Vijay Gurbani Organization: Lucent Technologies/Bell Laboratories X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com Cc: Steve Bellovin Subject: Re: [SPIRITS] SPIRITS meeting agenda References: <3C025A80.F1D6352B@lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com Errors-To: spirits-admin@lists.bell-labs.com X-BeenThere: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: spirits@lists.bell-labs.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: IETF SPIRITS Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: http://lists.bell-labs.com/pipermail/spirits/ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:12:24 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alec Brusilovsky wrote: [...] > B. Proposed meeting agenda: [...] > 6. On the outline of the SPIRITS Protocol document - > discussion - 15 min. Alec: Here is a starting point for such an outline; we can use it as a strawman for discussions at the WG meeting. I will prepare a couple of slides on it: 1 Introduction 2 INAP Parameters of interest to SPIRITS clients on PSTN 2.1 Identifying IN DPs from CS-3 2.2 Encoding INAP parameters in SPIRITS using XML 3 Using the SIP Events Package for SPIRITS clients on IP Network 3.1 Definitions of a SIP Event Package for SPIRITS 3.2 Encoding SPIRITS events in SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY using XML 4 IANA Considerations 5 Security Considerations 6 Conclusion Appendix A: XML DTD for encoding IN parameters Appendix B: XML DTD for SPIRITS Event Package Thanks, - vijay -- Vijay K. Gurbani vkg@{lucent.com,research.bell-labs.com,acm.org} Internet Software and eServices Group Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs Innovations, 2000 Lucent Lane, Rm 6G-440 Naperville, Illinois 60566 Voice: +1 630 224 0216 Fax: +1 630 713 0184 _______________________________________________ SPIRITS mailing list SPIRITS@lists.bell-labs.com http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/spirits