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Ladies and Gentlemen,

As previously announced, we will meet on Tuesday, December 11,
from 17:00 through 18:00.
I do understand that we have a possible conflict with the
SIPPING WG. Please plan your time accordingly.

Our agenda:
1. Agenda bashing  - 2 min.
2. Current status of SPIRITS Protocol Requirements -
Informational RFC candidate - 3 min.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-spirits-reqs-02.txt

3. SIP Events Package for the SPIRITS protocol - discussion -
Igor Faynberg - 15 min.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-spirits-sip-evt-package-01.txt

4. On XML generation and encoding of SPIRITS parameters -
John-Luc Bakker - 10 min.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-unmehopa-spirits-parameter-generation-00.txt

5. On the outline of the SPIRITS Protocol document - discussion
- 15 min.
(Please see Vijay's proposed outline at the end of this message)

6. Services requiring PSTN presence information - Rebecca
Copeland - 5 min. (only if time allows)
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-montgomery-copeland-presence-spirits-00.txt

7. SCE utilizing SCML for SPIRITS services - John-Luc Bakker - 5
min. (only if time allows)
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bakker-jain-scml-00.txt

8. Conclusions - 5 min.

Kind regards,
Alec

P.S. Vijay's proposed Protocol Document outline:
   1 Introduction
   2 INAP Parameters of interest to SPIRITS clients on PSTN
          2.1 Identifying IN DPs from CS-3
          2.2 Encoding INAP parameters in SPIRITS using XML
   3 Using the SIP Events Package for SPIRITS clients on IP
Network
          3.1 Definitions of a SIP Event Package for SPIRITS
          3.2 Encoding SPIRITS events in SUBSCRIBE/NOTIFY using
XML
   4 IANA Considerations
   5 Security Considerations
   6 Conclusion
   Appendix A: XML DTD for encoding IN parameters
   Appendix B: XML DTD for SPIRITS Event Package


Alec Brusilovsky wrote:

> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> There are certain issues that I have to address in this
> pre-IETF E-mail:
>
> A. agenda@ietf.org has allocated a meeting slot for our
> session in Salt Lake City:
> Tuesday, December 11, from 17:00 through 18:00
> This time slot has a conflict with the SIPPING WG session
> and I am trying to resolve it with agenda@ietf.org.
> Hopefully, we will get a positive response from
> agenda@ietf.org and I will post a follow-up E-mail here.
>
> B. Proposed meeting agenda:
>
> 1. Agenda bashing  - 5 min.
> 2. SPIRITS issues in the ITU-T - Hui-Lan Lu - 2 min.
> 3. Current status of SPIRITS Protocol Requirements -
> Informational RFC candidate - 3 min.
> 4. SIP Events Package for the SPIRITS protocol - discussion
> - Igor Faynberg - 15 min.
> 5. On XML generation and encoding of SPIRITS parameters -
> John-Luc Bakker - 10 min.
> 6. On the outline of the SPIRITS Protocol document -
> discussion - 15 min.
> 7. Services requiring PSTN presence information - Rebecca
> Copeland - 5 min. (only if time allows)
> 8. Conclusions - 5 min.
>
> This proposed agenda is quite dense. I would like to ask all
> speakers to E-mail me their charts ahead of time, so we can
> put them on a single laptop.
> Please let Steve or myself know if you have a burning issue
> to discuss at the meeting.
> Also, it is time for outlining the SPIRITS Protocol
> document, and we have pretty much all the components in
> place for that.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alec Brusilovsky

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Alec:

Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend the SPIRITS WG meeting
on Tuesday.  Can you please be so kind as to present my slides 
during my alloted time?  I will email you the slides privately.

Thanks,
 
- vijay
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Hi

I am working on putting an interface between the
Softswitch(IN CS-2 based call control)and the SIP
based application server. I have seen lots of
RFC/Drafts talking about SIP/IN interworking. But all
of them talk about accessing the IN services from SIP
based networks.
Can I find any RFC/draft/document or any other info
which talks about accessing the SIP based services
from IN based call model(BCM) which is already
implemented in my case. Any document/RFC which talks
about mapping the IN PICs with SIP. Is there any
implementation available?

thanks
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You will have to map the BCM events to the SIP INVITEs to access the SIP
application server. Since SIP services can be generic - no specific
state/call model, I doubt if there exists a one-to-one mapping between
the BCM events and the a generic SIP service.

There is a call-flow draft that can provide you tons of examples.

regards,

Bobby Sardana.
sardana@obsoft.com

arun kumar wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am working on putting an interface between the
> Softswitch(IN CS-2 based call control)and the SIP
> based application server. I have seen lots of
> RFC/Drafts talking about SIP/IN interworking. But all
> of them talk about accessing the IN services from SIP
> based networks.
> Can I find any RFC/draft/document or any other info
> which talks about accessing the SIP based services
> from IN based call model(BCM) which is already
> implemented in my case. Any document/RFC which talks
> about mapping the IN PICs with SIP. Is there any
> implementation available?
>
> thanks
> AKS
>
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arun kumar wrote:
> Can I find any RFC/draft/document or any other info
> which talks about accessing the SIP based services
> from IN based call model(BCM) which is already
> implemented in my case. Any document/RFC which talks
> about mapping the IN PICs with SIP. Is there any
> implementation available?

Vijay Gurbani was the first to address IN call model and SIP mapping.
His initial draft has been discussed in the SIN (SIP/IN interworking)
design team and accepted as the basis of the team's framework document.
Presently, Vijay and his co-authors are revising the document. They
expect to have the revised version available to the team for review
soon. I should say that SIP-INAP interworking is also within the
"charter" of the SIN design team even though it is so far barely
started. If you are interested in the SIN work and joining the design
team, please contact me.

Hui-Lan Lu
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