From nobody Mon Apr 4 10:40:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spud@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spud@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3322612D61D for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eX0DuAOSfjEL for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trammell.ch (trammell.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9408B12D13D for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 10:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-9999.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-9999.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.153.153]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8BE2E1A0054; Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:40:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Brian Trammell X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.6b2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ED4E7228-862E-4B7A-A31D-41BA362C413F"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 14:40:02 -0300 Message-Id: To: spud@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: stackevo-discuss@iab.org Subject: [Spud] New SPUD requirements and use cases X-BeenThere: spud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Session Protocol Underneath Datagrams List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 17:40:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ED4E7228-862E-4B7A-A31D-41BA362C413F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, We've published new versions of the SPUD requirements and use cases = documents. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-trammell-spud-req/ The -02 revision of the requirements document represents a major = reorganization. Requirements concerning security and privacy have been = pulled out into a separate section, and some open questions (with = respect to tube identifiers, out-of-band signaling) resolved. Diffs are = at https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-trammell-spud-req-02.txt https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kuehlewind-spud-use-cases/ The -01 revision is a major revision of the document, adding a "first = principles" section and new use cases (PMTUD, reordering sensitivity = exposure, and in-band measurement). Sections have been reordered, and = we've made a lot of editorial changes, too. Please direct discussion of these documents to spud@ietf.org. Though = there's no scheduled session to discuss SPUD this time, we're both in = Buenos Aires this week if you'd like to talk in the hallways. Cheers, Brian and Mirja --Apple-Mail=_ED4E7228-862E-4B7A-A31D-41BA362C413F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXAqbzAAoJEIoSt78L6kajiyIP/0AvhpO4epVXGU2LouKC34ST JU7mMyOeUU/EO8IOimWEJ4Rs1opfXSWZdl0PT5Cx7lgbAyETrOxQhC3y53hcUa8V uUFB0KDk+F3QR3F9n666jD2v83HFsbZ1hdFUbymPAKTdbh2YDCYhwMApAtXteP3k ktgmxOyP7cAisfEPH7isYD0tFKPPyTfTeBf+3f6efG5vczxExgWOU8hmMlnBIlDY z1hfY6WIKtduItgClyUek4+ws3O48NaEym8FxCYLb2ayn9OStYGxM82l0thBF6K6 V23d8Bxh86fesCPBuVyMQbV9ZK4mn2ENgQY4lKTVY0NHtsuY+4yQqF97VsV1Bh5h hKpE36RjBIQ5AmVJwrarHVoLvyEa/3QOgICWVh0RK5KiGu+/cVswjoyjCjEaLa2/ hSbazdLIEMDny2lPARmz0CTPQKLdcQi28XjiK9K+UbOL1Yc2DQ8ZVdCaM8C0BfuA bTX352Dcen/toSxhpmFu8X3GrtoiPiOIsmHl66bWyCqGka65RCtaTzHwpEeC+1ba AHCjyZ3AGn19DJ7MpUvr5ymwwGWOClE32Jyn1EYE981tPxCDadXvrAOwOY0a43Y6 Q/aBvdeWWtKZfIdjVB3YP6zScUM110KpGfC/JUjH+MVa4iMwMewO6mlR66Lq4IxG bjxUBoMPu9dLotrT6Wr0 =JOl9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_ED4E7228-862E-4B7A-A31D-41BA362C413F-- From nobody Fri Apr 29 08:02:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: spud@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: spud@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A183512D0B8 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id or1BbwIWe1gH for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trammell.ch (trammell.ch [5.148.172.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1879912D0A5 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:67c:10ec:52c8:8000::e9e] (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:10ec:52c8:8000::e9e]) by trammell.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21A6C1A093E; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:02:15 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D985273E-B7C0-440F-BB31-F849F4936957"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.6b2 From: Brian Trammell Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:02:14 +0200 Message-Id: References: <20160429143554.12437.85193.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: spud@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: stackevo-discuss@iab.org Subject: [Spud] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-trammell-spud-req-03.txt X-BeenThere: spud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Session Protocol Underneath Datagrams List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:02:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D985273E-B7C0-440F-BB31-F849F4936957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, all, We've submitted a new revision of the SPUD requirements document. This = represents an editing pass over -02, incorporating some feedback we've = had in the meantime, reorganizing some functional requirements to be = more detailed, as well as making an effort to address all open issues = with requirements. In our opinion, this revision of the document represents a good starting = point for a discussion about possible chartering of a working group for = protocol work to meet these requirements. Please send comments to spud@ietf.org. Thanks, cheers, Mirja and Brian, as spud-req editors > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-trammell-spud-req-03.txt > Date: 29 April 2016 at 16:35:54 GMT+2 > To: "Mirja Kuehlewind" , "Brian = Trammell" >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-trammell-spud-req-03.txt > has been successfully submitted by Brian Trammell and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-trammell-spud-req > Revision: 03 > Title: Requirements for the design of a Substrate = Protocol for User Datagrams (SPUD) > Document date: 2016-04-29 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 18 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-trammell-spud-req-03.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-trammell-spud-req/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-trammell-spud-req-03 > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-trammell-spud-req-03 >=20 > Abstract: > We have identified the potential need for a UDP-based encapsulation > protocol to allow explicit cooperation with middleboxes while using > new, encrypted transport protocols. This document proposes an > initial set of requirements for such a protocol, and discusses > tradeoffs to be made in further refining these requirements. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 --Apple-Mail=_D985273E-B7C0-440F-BB31-F849F4936957 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXI3d2AAoJEIoSt78L6kajzegP/AvWcdWsszzFza6uCWnfoa8K O19JDzT77IH/kj6vpTaYnpa0Cypb/vBClPU6xp6r07kbWyNizKTMUx91bxtVbukw Vc1uiTuLP9Sdpi3zVRyHldU91z2mWW8kQtO9PlvmFaCLlT4bgu45omGTk13PMsgQ mYKgLwlcBswCIinZN3CVkm+91LkOOMEi2Bg4mK400Ljh+qT0FhZ+EaJargrodWCh veb6PLW6nfZL21mqyrf8yxqZr6dT4APZMXZ4f5NII16nEwhIXW+gkCKvk7C4yO4R 3oTEv1CBaoSKEPccKUR4rKgbwCGsqW2gl/VrDIgB0tTkSCE5/ZCaV8AFaevPwISX jHiC9WlTjl/4cXH9jRQT/5ihAoosRODSd5y5ymJyoMpw5pRrNgp+pZ2eMzMoED7c 68R7nu55MOdWQmDl+lC1BtIUvG5WObdPOZYODGHEsyC1UnybRS3IYpdk6R+xLnUa 5N3LHHSXCnr3kOsUYR+LhEy8c/Qr1RhaYfG0e9ucF/r8WRV3a6GRuLjncZfr4/EN h+CD6vCuYFBMJzFcq6LJm6/ytOsTyZPlCwCu5OJfyNskLZQSPLx6fre0qpS5umkW sfwZHDOC6tJF1sMKcTFcaI1TG18/GqFBoJWFXOUbMuxnIsBosOb22QFFcw9+bhSz E8MEe1T+qy+T4q/LOA9H =dlQF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_D985273E-B7C0-440F-BB31-F849F4936957--