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Passwords for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org: List Password // URL ---- -------- ssm@ietf.org daemut https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/options/ssm/ssm-web-archive%40ietf.org From ssm-admin@ietf.org Mon Mar 15 22:57:33 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20822 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B35hM-0005uA-V9; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:57:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B35gf-0005tG-LE for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:56:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20562 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B35gc-0000JP-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:56:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B35fY-00008x-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:55:10 -0500 Received: from smtp-out.sprintlabs.com ([208.30.172.76]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B35eW-0007fb-00; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:54:04 -0500 Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.192]) by smtp-out.sprintlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89438B8A09; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.sprintlabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:20 -0800 Received: from SUPLAPTOP (199.2.54.59 [199.2.54.59]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id FHCSJCC1; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:08 -0800 From: Supratik Bhattacharyya Reply-To: Supratik Bhattacharyya To: zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, ssm@ietf.org, holbrook@cisco.com, Supratik Bhattacharyya Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:02 -0800 Organization: Sprint ATL Message-ID: <002e01c40b0a$0dcd8dd0$3b3602c7@sprintlabs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [ssm] (no subject) Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex and Bill, On behalf of the SSM working group, the chairs request that draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published as a Proposed Standard. A working group last call was initiated on Feb 11, 2004, and no comments were received. -Supratik and Hugh - -------------------------------- From: Hugh Holbrook To: ssm@ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com, holbrook@cisco.com, supratik@sprintlabs.com Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:45:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ssm] last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Hello everyone., At the last meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am hoping we can now bring to a close. In Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to the IESG as a STD track document. The discussion centered around the point of whether the IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay the document from being advanced to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. There was clear consensus that the draft was ready to advance on technical grounds. The primary argument made for not advancing the document, was that, by not advancing at this time, we might have a better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change their licensing statement. However, we did not come up with any concrete ideas for achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help. All but two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should advance immediately. It is the opinion of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two dissenting voices acknowledged) was to advance the document. So the purpose of this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing list, so we can get moving with the next phase of the process. If anyone on the list has reason to think that the standardization process should be delayed, then please speak up now with your reasons. After two weeks with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. Thanks! -Hugh and Supratik _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Alex and = Bill,

 

On behalf of the = SSM working group, the chairs request that draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published = as a Proposed Standard. A working group last call was initiated on = Feb 11, 2004, and no comments were = received.

 

-Supratik and = Hugh

 

- --------------------------------

From: Hugh = Holbrook <holbrook@cisco.com>

To: = ssm@ietf.org

Cc: = rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com,

      holbrook@cisco.com, = supratik@sprintlabs.com

Date: = Wed, 11 Feb 2004 = 22:45:31 -0800 (PST)

Subject: [ssm] = last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt

 

Hello = everyone.,

 

At the last = meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am = hoping we can now bring to a close.

 

In = Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to the IESG as a = STD track document.  The discussion centered around the point of whether the = IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay the document from being = advanced to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.

 

There was clear = consensus that the draft was ready to advance on technical grounds.  The = primary argument made for not advancing the document, was that, by not advancing at this = time, we might have a better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change = their licensing statement.  However, we did not come up with any = concrete ideas for achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help.  = All but two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should = advance immediately.

 

It is the opinion = of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two dissenting voices = acknowledged) was to advance the document.

 

So the purpose of = this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing list, so we can get moving = with the next phase of the process.  If anyone on the list has reason to = think that the standardization process should be delayed, then please speak up now = with your reasons.

 

After two weeks = with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the IESG for consideration = as a Proposed Standard.

 

Thanks!

-Hugh and = Supratik

 

_______________________________________________

ssm mailing = list

ssm@ietf.org

https://www1.ietf.or= g/mailman/listinfo/ssm

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0-- _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Mar 15 23:12:53 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA21351 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B35wH-00074K-K9 for ssm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i2G4CP04027169 for ssm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B35wG-000748-Fk for ssm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA21216 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B35wE-0001Xv-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:12:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B35u9-0001C8-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:10:22 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B35ra-0000zk-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:07:34 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B35hS-00009K-Lm for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:57:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B35hM-0005uA-V9; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:57:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B35gf-0005tG-LE for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:56:17 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA20562 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B35gc-0000JP-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:56:14 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B35fY-00008x-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:55:10 -0500 Received: from smtp-out.sprintlabs.com ([208.30.172.76]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B35eW-0007fb-00; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:54:04 -0500 Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.192]) by smtp-out.sprintlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89438B8A09; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.sprintlabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:20 -0800 Received: from SUPLAPTOP (199.2.54.59 [199.2.54.59]) by mailman.sprintlabs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id FHCSJCC1; Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:08 -0800 From: Supratik Bhattacharyya Reply-To: Supratik Bhattacharyya To: zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org, ssm@ietf.org, holbrook@cisco.com, Supratik Bhattacharyya Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:52:02 -0800 Organization: Sprint ATL Message-ID: <002e01c40b0a$0dcd8dd0$3b3602c7@sprintlabs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: [ssm] (no subject) Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.60 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex and Bill, On behalf of the SSM working group, the chairs request that draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published as a Proposed Standard. A working group last call was initiated on Feb 11, 2004, and no comments were received. -Supratik and Hugh - -------------------------------- From: Hugh Holbrook To: ssm@ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com, holbrook@cisco.com, supratik@sprintlabs.com Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:45:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [ssm] last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Hello everyone., At the last meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am hoping we can now bring to a close. In Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to the IESG as a STD track document. The discussion centered around the point of whether the IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay the document from being advanced to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. There was clear consensus that the draft was ready to advance on technical grounds. The primary argument made for not advancing the document, was that, by not advancing at this time, we might have a better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change their licensing statement. However, we did not come up with any concrete ideas for achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help. All but two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should advance immediately. It is the opinion of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two dissenting voices acknowledged) was to advance the document. So the purpose of this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing list, so we can get moving with the next phase of the process. If anyone on the list has reason to think that the standardization process should be delayed, then please speak up now with your reasons. After two weeks with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. Thanks! -Hugh and Supratik _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C40AC6.FFAA4DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Alex and = Bill,

 

On behalf of the = SSM working group, the chairs request that draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published = as a Proposed Standard. A working group last call was initiated on = Feb 11, 2004, and no comments were = received.

 

-Supratik and = Hugh

 

- --------------------------------

From: Hugh = Holbrook <holbrook@cisco.com>

To: = ssm@ietf.org

Cc: = rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com,

      holbrook@cisco.com, = supratik@sprintlabs.com

Date: = Wed, 11 Feb 2004 = 22:45:31 -0800 (PST)

Subject: [ssm] = last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt

 

Hello = everyone.,

 

At the last = meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am = hoping we can now bring to a close.

 

In = Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to the IESG as a = STD track document.  The discussion centered around the point of whether the = IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay the document from being = advanced to the IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard.

 

There was clear = consensus that the draft was ready to advance on technical grounds.  The = primary argument made for not advancing the document, was that, by not advancing at this = time, we might have a better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change = their licensing statement.  However, we did not come up with any = concrete ideas for achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help.  = All but two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should = advance immediately.

 

It is the opinion = of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two dissenting voices = acknowledged) was to advance the document.

 

So the purpose of = this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing list, so we can get moving = with the next phase of the process.  If anyone on the list has reason to = think that the standardization process should be delayed, then please speak up now = with your reasons.

 

After two weeks = with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the IESG for consideration = as a Proposed Standard.

 

Thanks!

-Hugh and = Supratik

 

_______________________________________________

ssm mailing = list

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Thank you. _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm From ssm-admin@ietf.org Thu Mar 25 20:22:35 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07260 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6g2r-0005gW-Kp; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:22:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6g2b-0005g1-VY for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07250 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g2Z-0003gi-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g1e-0003dd-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:20:46 -0500 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] ident=mailnull) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g1K-0003a1-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:20:26 -0500 Received: from [147.28.0.62] (helo=127.0.0.1) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B6g1K-000JPZ-Ne; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:20:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:20:26 -0800 From: Alex Zinin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal Reply-To: Alex Zinin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17920060265.20040325172026@psg.com> To: Supratik Bhattacharyya CC: fenner@research.att.com, ssm@ietf.org, holbrook@cisco.com In-Reply-To: <002e01c40b0a$0dcd8dd0$3b3602c7@sprintlabs.com> References: <002e01c40b0a$0dcd8dd0$3b3602c7@sprintlabs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ssm] Re: draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Supratik, Ack. Sorry for the delay. The secretariat didn't follow up (probably because of the empty subject line in your message), so we didn't have it in the queue. Fixed now. We'll take the doc for IESG review. Thank you. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin/ Monday, March 15, 2004, 7:52:02 PM, Supratik Bhattacharyya wrote: > Alex and Bill, > On behalf of the SSM working group, the chairs request that > draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published as a Proposed Standard. A > working group last call was initiated on Feb 11, 2004, and no comments > were received. > -Supratik and Hugh > - -------------------------------- > From: Hugh Holbrook > To: ssm@ietf.org > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com, > holbrook@cisco.com, supratik@sprintlabs.com > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:45:31 -0800 (PST) > Subject: [ssm] last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt > Hello everyone., > At the last meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion > about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am hoping we can now bring to a > close. > In Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to > the IESG as a STD track document. The discussion centered around the > point of whether the IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay > the document from being advanced to the IESG for consideration as a > Proposed Standard. > There was clear consensus that the draft was ready to advance on > technical grounds. The primary argument made for not advancing the > document, was that, by not advancing at this time, we might have a > better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change their licensing > statement. However, we did not come up with any concrete ideas for > achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help. All but > two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should > advance immediately. > It is the opinion of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two > dissenting voices acknowledged) was to advance the document. > So the purpose of this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing > list, so we can get moving with the next phase of the process. If > anyone on the list has reason to think that the standardization process > should be delayed, then please speak up now with your reasons. > After two weeks with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the > IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. > Thanks! > -Hugh and Supratik > _______________________________________________ > ssm mailing list > ssm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm > _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Mar 25 20:24:11 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07314 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6g4V-0005oz-HA for ssm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:23:43 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i2Q1NhNF022376 for ssm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:23:43 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6g4V-0005op-7y for ssm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:23:43 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07298 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g4T-0003oy-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:23:41 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g3W-0003lS-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:22:43 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g2w-0003iA-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:22:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6g2r-0005gW-Kp; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:22:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6g2b-0005g1-VY for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA07250 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g2Z-0003gi-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:21:43 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g1e-0003dd-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:20:46 -0500 Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] ident=mailnull) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6g1K-0003a1-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:20:26 -0500 Received: from [147.28.0.62] (helo=127.0.0.1) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B6g1K-000JPZ-Ne; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:20:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:20:26 -0800 From: Alex Zinin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Personal Reply-To: Alex Zinin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17920060265.20040325172026@psg.com> To: Supratik Bhattacharyya CC: fenner@research.att.com, ssm@ietf.org, holbrook@cisco.com In-Reply-To: <002e01c40b0a$0dcd8dd0$3b3602c7@sprintlabs.com> References: <002e01c40b0a$0dcd8dd0$3b3602c7@sprintlabs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [ssm] Re: draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Supratik, Ack. Sorry for the delay. The secretariat didn't follow up (probably because of the empty subject line in your message), so we didn't have it in the queue. Fixed now. We'll take the doc for IESG review. Thank you. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin/ Monday, March 15, 2004, 7:52:02 PM, Supratik Bhattacharyya wrote: > Alex and Bill, > On behalf of the SSM working group, the chairs request that > draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published as a Proposed Standard. A > working group last call was initiated on Feb 11, 2004, and no comments > were received. > -Supratik and Hugh > - -------------------------------- > From: Hugh Holbrook > To: ssm@ietf.org > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com, > holbrook@cisco.com, supratik@sprintlabs.com > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:45:31 -0800 (PST) > Subject: [ssm] last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt > Hello everyone., > At the last meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion > about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am hoping we can now bring to a > close. > In Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to > the IESG as a STD track document. The discussion centered around the > point of whether the IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay > the document from being advanced to the IESG for consideration as a > Proposed Standard. > There was clear consensus that the draft was ready to advance on > technical grounds. The primary argument made for not advancing the > document, was that, by not advancing at this time, we might have a > better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change their licensing > statement. However, we did not come up with any concrete ideas for > achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help. All but > two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should > advance immediately. > It is the opinion of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two > dissenting voices acknowledged) was to advance the document. > So the purpose of this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing > list, so we can get moving with the next phase of the process. If > anyone on the list has reason to think that the standardization process > should be delayed, then please speak up now with your reasons. > After two weeks with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the > IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. > Thanks! > -Hugh and Supratik > _______________________________________________ > ssm mailing list > ssm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm > _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm From ssm-admin@ietf.org Fri Mar 26 01:12:38 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA18520 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6kZU-0004If-Jg; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:12:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6kZR-0004IL-5d for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA18517 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kZO-0001oz-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kYb-0001lC-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:05 -0500 Received: from smtp-out.sprintlabs.com ([208.30.172.76]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kXw-0001fI-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:10:25 -0500 Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.192]) by smtp-out.sprintlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CACAB92C1; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.sprintlabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02:50 -0800 Message-ID: <49D9473417F1234C9C86886EE8353FAA116D02@mailman.sprintlabs.com> From: Supratik Bhattacharyya To: "'Alex Zinin '" Cc: "'fenner@research.att.com '" , "'ssm@ietf.org '" , "'holbrook@cisco.com '" Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [ssm] RE: draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Alex, Thanks! supratik -----Original Message----- From: Alex Zinin To: Supratik Bhattacharyya Cc: fenner@research.att.com; ssm@ietf.org; holbrook@cisco.com Sent: 3/25/2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Supratik, Ack. Sorry for the delay. The secretariat didn't follow up (probably because of the empty subject line in your message), so we didn't have it in the queue. Fixed now. We'll take the doc for IESG review. Thank you. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin/ Monday, March 15, 2004, 7:52:02 PM, Supratik Bhattacharyya wrote: > Alex and Bill, > On behalf of the SSM working group, the chairs request that > draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published as a Proposed Standard. A > working group last call was initiated on Feb 11, 2004, and no comments > were received. > -Supratik and Hugh > - -------------------------------- > From: Hugh Holbrook > To: ssm@ietf.org > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com, > holbrook@cisco.com, supratik@sprintlabs.com > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:45:31 -0800 (PST) > Subject: [ssm] last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt > Hello everyone., > At the last meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion > about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am hoping we can now bring to a > close. > In Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to > the IESG as a STD track document. The discussion centered around the > point of whether the IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay > the document from being advanced to the IESG for consideration as a > Proposed Standard. > There was clear consensus that the draft was ready to advance on > technical grounds. The primary argument made for not advancing the > document, was that, by not advancing at this time, we might have a > better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change their licensing > statement. However, we did not come up with any concrete ideas for > achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help. All but > two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should > advance immediately. > It is the opinion of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two > dissenting voices acknowledged) was to advance the document. > So the purpose of this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing > list, so we can get moving with the next phase of the process. If > anyone on the list has reason to think that the standardization process > should be delayed, then please speak up now with your reasons. > After two weeks with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the > IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. > Thanks! > -Hugh and Supratik > _______________________________________________ > ssm mailing list > ssm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm > _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Mar 26 01:14:24 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA18639 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6kbL-0004PZ-LZ for ssm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:13:55 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i2Q6DtLW016953 for ssm-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:13:55 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6kbL-0004PM-IG for ssm-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:13:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA18595 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kbI-0001z3-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:13:52 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kaJ-0001tP-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:12:52 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kZa-0001pH-00 for ssm-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:12:06 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6kZU-0004If-Jg; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:12:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B6kZR-0004IL-5d for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA18517 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kZO-0001oz-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kYb-0001lC-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:11:05 -0500 Received: from smtp-out.sprintlabs.com ([208.30.172.76]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B6kXw-0001fI-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 01:10:25 -0500 Received: from mailman.sprintlabs.com (mx.sprintlabs.com [199.2.53.192]) by smtp-out.sprintlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CACAB92C1; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.sprintlabs.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02:50 -0800 Message-ID: <49D9473417F1234C9C86886EE8353FAA116D02@mailman.sprintlabs.com> From: Supratik Bhattacharyya To: "'Alex Zinin '" Cc: "'fenner@research.att.com '" , "'ssm@ietf.org '" , "'holbrook@cisco.com '" Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 22:02:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: [ssm] RE: draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Alex, Thanks! supratik -----Original Message----- From: Alex Zinin To: Supratik Bhattacharyya Cc: fenner@research.att.com; ssm@ietf.org; holbrook@cisco.com Sent: 3/25/2004 5:20 PM Subject: Re: draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt Supratik, Ack. Sorry for the delay. The secretariat didn't follow up (probably because of the empty subject line in your message), so we didn't have it in the queue. Fixed now. We'll take the doc for IESG review. Thank you. -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin/ Monday, March 15, 2004, 7:52:02 PM, Supratik Bhattacharyya wrote: > Alex and Bill, > On behalf of the SSM working group, the chairs request that > draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt be published as a Proposed Standard. A > working group last call was initiated on Feb 11, 2004, and no comments > were received. > -Supratik and Hugh > - -------------------------------- > From: Hugh Holbrook > To: ssm@ietf.org > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, zinin@psg.com, fenner@research.att.com, > holbrook@cisco.com, supratik@sprintlabs.com > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:45:31 -0800 (PST) > Subject: [ssm] last call for draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt > Hello everyone., > At the last meeting of SSM (in Minneapolis, IETF-58) we had a discussion > about draft-ietf-ssm-arch-04.txt that I am hoping we can now bring to a > close. > In Minneapolis, we discussed whether the draft was ready to advance to > the IESG as a STD track document. The discussion centered around the > point of whether the IPR claim statement put forth by Apple should delay > the document from being advanced to the IESG for consideration as a > Proposed Standard. > There was clear consensus that the draft was ready to advance on > technical grounds. The primary argument made for not advancing the > document, was that, by not advancing at this time, we might have a > better chance of getting the IPR claimant to change their licensing > statement. However, we did not come up with any concrete ideas for > achieving this or any explanation of how the delay would help. All but > two people who spoke up were of the opinion that the document should > advance immediately. > It is the opinion of the chairs that the consensus in the room (two > dissenting voices acknowledged) was to advance the document. > So the purpose of this mail is to ratify that decision on the mailing > list, so we can get moving with the next phase of the process. If > anyone on the list has reason to think that the standardization process > should be delayed, then please speak up now with your reasons. > After two weeks with no dissent, this document will be submitted to the > IESG for consideration as a Proposed Standard. > Thanks! > -Hugh and Supratik > _______________________________________________ > ssm mailing list > ssm@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm > _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm From ssm-admin@ietf.org Sat Mar 27 01:22:34 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA13940 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B77Ci-0006YC-Lx; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:22:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B77CM-0006VU-Ns for ssm@optimus.ietf.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:21:38 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA13891 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:21:36 -0500 (EST) From: supratik@sprintlabs.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B77CJ-0007lV-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:21:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B77BO-0007hZ-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:20:39 -0500 Received: from [202.120.8.56] (helo=ssh-dzuwc3ymzpr) by ietf-mx with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B77B2-0007dZ-00 for ssm@ietf.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 01:20:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:22:04 +0800 To: ssm@ietf.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--------fovdygrkegtraxbeeaos" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Subject: [ssm] Hi Sender: ssm-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: ssm-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: ssm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Source-Specific Multicast List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , ----------fovdygrkegtraxbeeaos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on ietf-mx) Found virus WORM_BAGLE.GEN-1 in file Document.zip The uncleanable file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- ----------fovdygrkegtraxbeeaos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Argh, i don't like the plaintext :) archive password: 77652 ----------fovdygrkegtraxbeeaos Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on ietf-mx) Document.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- ----------fovdygrkegtraxbeeaos-- _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm