From nobody Fri Oct 3 11:57:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FAE1A88A0; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:31:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VyR9-HYdoWlr; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEA61A6FD9; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:31:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: Robert Sparks , Russ Housley X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.3.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141003183109.24644.26361.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 11:31:09 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/hA__luE8UWuLSFyhNyKHidoroC4 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 11:57:47 -0700 Cc: Koji Nakao , Anthony Rutkowski , Richard Barnes , Alissa Cooper , Scott Mansfield , stir@ietf.org, A Kremer Subject: [stir] New Liaison Statement, "LS on technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication organizations" X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:31:11 -0000 Title: LS on technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication organizations Submission Date: 2014-10-03 URL of the IETF Web page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1354/ Please reply by 2015-03-31 From: ITU-T SG 17 (Martin Euchner ) To: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited (Robert Sparks , Russ Housley ) Cc: Richard Barnes ,Alissa Cooper ,stir@ietf.org,A Kremer ,Koji Nakao ,Anthony Rutkowski ,Scott Mansfield Response Contact: Technical Contact: Purpose: For comment Body: ITU-T Study Group 17, Security, in its Question 5/17, Countering spam by technical means, is pleased to inform you that our draft Recommendation ITU-T X.ticvs on technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication organizations was close to being finalized. The work item was established in September 2011 and proceeded in the recent three years. We kindly invite the experts of IETF WG STIR to review the text of X.ticvs (see attachment 1) giving full considerations of the following: - X.ticvs focuses on the technologies on countering voice spam initiated from the circuit-switched network with the consideration that the technologies on countering voice spam initiated from the IP-based network have been recommended in Recommendations ITU-T X.1245 and X.1244. - With the respect to WTSA-12 Resolution 52 (Rev. Dubai, 2012), Countering and combating spam, X.ticvs avoided recommending technologies which may bring potential privacy arguments. Therefore, for example, X.ticvs does not recommend the technologies that can identify whether the caller ID (or calling Line ID) of a voice spammer is spoofed /impersonated or not. We would like to hear whether recent activities of IETF WG STIR regarding technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication organizations are impacted before we will be proceeding the work item to go through ITU-T TAP determination procedure. We appreciate your feedback in this regard. Attachment: 1 -Draft Recommendation ITU-T X.ticvs, Technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication organizations. Attachments: COM17_LS150 https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2014-10-03-itu-t-sg-17-stir-ls-on-technologies-involved-in-countering-voice-spam-in-telecommunication-organizations-attachment-1.zip From nobody Fri Oct 3 12:22:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC9F1A1B02 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 12:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.044 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.044 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xG87PTGo7Ad3 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 12:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.smetech.net (unknown [209.135.219.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486691A1AF5 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 12:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [209.135.209.5]) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC61D9A445D for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:22:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smetech.net Received: from odin.smetech.net ([209.135.209.4]) by localhost (ronin.smeinc.net [209.135.209.5]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4xWR+GTyx1vj for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.2.108] (pool-96-255-133-207.washdc.fios.verizon.net [96.255.133.207]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by odin.smetech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980609A445B for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-115-265215985 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:21:52 -0400 Message-Id: To: IETF STIR Mail List Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/u3uppDg-oMPzoURx7GopeU2Y1so Subject: [stir] Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17 X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:22:36 -0000 --Apple-Mail-115-265215985 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The STIR WG needs to be aware of two liaison statements from ITU-T SG17. I point you to the IETF Liaison statement web page; it is better that = putting large attachments into our archive. (1) Liaison Statement on technologies involved in countering voice spam = in telecommunication organizations https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1354/ (2) Liaison Statement on technical measures and mechanism on countering = the spoofed call in the visited network of VoLTE https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1353/ The first of these is directed at this WG, and we have the action to = create a response by the end of March 2015. Russ --Apple-Mail-115-265215985 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

The STIR WG needs = to be aware of two liaison statements from ITU-T = SG17.


I point you to the IETF Liaison = statement web page; it is better that putting large attachments into our = archive.

(1) Liaison Statement on = technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication = organizations

(2)  Liaison = Statement on technical measures and mechanism on countering the spoofed = call in the visited network of VoLTE

The first of = these is directed at this WG, and we have the action to create a = response by the end of March = 2015.

Russ

= --Apple-Mail-115-265215985-- From nobody Tue Oct 7 03:10:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1631A9150 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:10:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fKqURWZM5eld for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias245.francetelecom.com [80.12.204.245]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C7051A1B7C for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfeda05.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.198]) by omfeda10.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 96D9837443F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:10:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.186]) by omfeda05.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 7BEE418004F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:10:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::81f:1640:4749:5d13]) by PEXCVZYH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:10:02 +0200 From: To: IETF STIR Mail List Thread-Topic: [stir] Liaison 1354 (was: Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17) Thread-Index: Ac/hQkdENhbjuH65R5eyT4AvwH+UoA== Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:10:02 +0000 Message-ID: <5126_1412676603_5433BBFB_5126_3237_1_B5939C6860701C49AA39C5DA5189448B141E3F76@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.197.38.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.10.7.50621 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/vTsLY-ZbjppBC6uZuKGeL98ajmo Subject: [stir] Liaison 1354 (was: Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17) X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:10:08 -0000 This 'X.ticvs' seems to be focused on the methods than can be put in place = to detect voice spam traffic patterns rather than the validity of the calli= ng party number. I'm not sure there's a lot to say, but it may be worthwhil= e having a pointer to STIR's work in general and RFC 7340 in particular.=20= =20 In section 7.2.1, and using the document terminology, maybe say something l= ike "Assessing the validity of the COSN ie verifying the calling party's au= thorization to use a particular telephone number for the call can be instru= mental in tackling voice spam. This is addressed IETF activities in definin= g secure telephone identities, and in IETF RFC 7340 in particular."=20 Or just refer them to the charter and the published RFC in the response lia= ison for SG17 to review their document as they see fit. Regards, Philippe Fouquart Orange Labs Networks +33 (0) 1 45 29 58 13 De=A0: stir [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Russ Housley Envoy=E9=A0: vendredi 3 octobre 2014 21:22 =C0=A0: IETF STIR Mail List Objet=A0: [stir] Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17 The STIR WG needs to be aware of two liaison statements from ITU-T SG17. I point you to the IETF Liaison statement web page; it is better that putti= ng large attachments into our archive. (1)=A0Liaison Statement on technologies involved in countering voice spam i= n telecommunication organizations https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1354/ (2) =A0Liaison Statement on technical measures and mechanism on countering = the spoofed call in the visited network of VoLTE https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1353/ The first of these is directed at this WG, and we have the action to create= a response by the end of March 2015. Russ ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged inf= ormation that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and dele= te this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been = modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. From nobody Tue Oct 7 03:13:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0791A9166 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:13:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_15=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jUTLAzit9LxU for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias243.francetelecom.com [80.12.204.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C11521A1B7C for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 03:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfeda06.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.199]) by omfeda09.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 059C9C0463 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:12:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme1.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.1.186]) by omfeda06.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id E39A4C8073 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:12:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::81f:1640:4749:5d13]) by PEXCVZYH01.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:12:57 +0200 From: To: IETF STIR Mail List Thread-Topic: [stir] Liaison 1353 (was: Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17) Thread-Index: Ac/iFbJBawE4QNa8QPuZC/+Nft4Z2w== Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:12:57 +0000 Message-ID: <1145_1412676777_5433BCA9_1145_4135_1_B5939C6860701C49AA39C5DA5189448B141E3F8B@PEXCVZYM12.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.197.38.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.10.7.50621 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/hQN-pHu1ngBzPtoRJiLe3-a8BHs Subject: [stir] Liaison 1353 (was: Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17) X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:13:01 -0000 Maybe this is just me but ("at the time of writing"...) the link to the att= achment mentioned in the text seems to be missing on the IETF liaison webpa= ge.=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1353/=20 Attachments: (none) [...] ITU-T Study Group 17, Security, in its Question 5/17, Countering spam by technical means, would like to inform you that we established the new work item X.ticsc on "technical measures and mechanism on countering the spoofed call in the visited network of VoLTE" based on the contributed document >>>>>(see attachment 1)<<<<< Regards, Philippe Fouquart Orange Labs Networks +33 (0) 1 45 29 58 13 De=A0: stir [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Russ Housley Envoy=E9=A0: vendredi 3 octobre 2014 21:22 =C0=A0: IETF STIR Mail List Objet=A0: [stir] Two liaison statements from ITU-T Study Group 17 The STIR WG needs to be aware of two liaison statements from ITU-T SG17. I point you to the IETF Liaison statement web page; it is better that putti= ng large attachments into our archive. (1)=A0Liaison Statement on technologies involved in countering voice spam i= n telecommunication organizations https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1354/ (2) =A0Liaison Statement on technical measures and mechanism on countering = the spoofed call in the visited network of VoLTE https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1353/ The first of these is directed at this WG, and we have the action to create= a response by the end of March 2015. Russ ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confiden= tielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu= ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages el= ectroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou = falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged inf= ormation that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and dele= te this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been = modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. From nobody Tue Oct 7 08:09:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9BA1A6F2B for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.013 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.013 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.786, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FpOK_lNebsYx for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from extmail1.yaanatech.com (extmail1.yaanatech.com [63.128.177.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51DB1A6F03 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (pool-71-171-106-160.clppva.fios.verizon.net [71.171.106.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by extmail1.yaanatech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB63F58098; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 20:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <542F0673.4060905@yaanatech.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:26:27 -0400 From: Tony Rutkowski Organization: Yaana Technologies User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liaison Statement Management Tool , Robert Sparks , Russ Housley References: <20141003183109.24644.26361.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20141003183109.24644.26361.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/yZGjXWQt1vOfMSjasyhj7Z-EdX8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 08:09:06 -0700 Cc: Koji Nakao , Richard Barnes , Alissa Cooper , Scott Mansfield , stir@ietf.org, "holm >> Tony Holmes" , A Kremer Subject: Re: [stir] New Liaison Statement, "LS on technologies involved in countering voice spam in telecommunication organizations" X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: tony@yaanatech.com List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 20:26:37 -0000 Hi Russ, There has long been concern expressed about this work item because of the lack of any significant involvement of telecom/ mobile operators or vendors. I have copied the UK's Tony Holmes whose contribution at the recent SG17 meeting led to this draft material being referred to stir. This work is essentially the product of three authors at one company who have been laboring on this text for the past four years at periodic meetings in Geneva and it is now being proposed for adoption. The ITU-T groups involved here do not have a culture of robust involvement of diverse technical experts. It would be edifying for them to have experienced the lengthy and spirited exchanges in stir! At to specific deficiencies, stir may wish note the creation of a new definition for "voice spam" that seems rather narrow, if not hostile to commercial users. With this said, and in the spirit of collaboration, anything that the IETF in general and stir specifically can provide about the draft text would be helpful. Certainly the new RFC7340 might be a good place for them to start. --tony From nobody Wed Oct 8 10:08:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C231A6FF0 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:08:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.686 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.786] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pZnM_DAdrGb8 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72A341A6FE9 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([173.64.248.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s98H7Xkw019272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 12:07:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [173.64.248.98] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <54356F4F.2050002@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:07:27 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stir@ietf.org References: <53D2970E.6000008@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <53D2970E.6000008@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/jbqojOm3Ufeh4HawKuA7l_HduP4 Subject: Re: [stir] Call for adoption of draft-peterson-stir-certificates X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:08:02 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:08:02 -0000 Sean pointed out I didn't follow up on this call when it ended - my apologies to everyone. This draft is adopted, and we've asked Sean to post the next version as a wg 00. RjS On 7/25/14 12:42 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > There was very strong consensus in the Toronto STIR meeting to adopt > draft-peterson-stir-certificates as a STIR WG document. > This message is to confirm that consensus on-list. > Please comment before 8-Aug-2014. > > _______________________________________________ > stir mailing list > stir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir From nobody Sun Oct 19 14:09:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F78D1A0276 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:09:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.034 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.034 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8rZGd8k_kouR for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy8-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.33.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A6F551A0273 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32632 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2014 21:08:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy8.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2014 21:08:55 -0000 Received: from box462.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.62]) by cmgw2 with id 598n1p00l1MNPNq0198qVz; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=e5mVF8Z/ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jTEj1adHphCQ5SwrTAOQMg==:117 a=jTEj1adHphCQ5SwrTAOQMg==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=xBIU4aAbsTwA:10 a=zsg0ix40YlEA:10 a=8WrITzYgnNwA:10 a=_tdySTnJzJgA:10 a=PeFO9FbFhS32YxYntvkA:9 a=dci_DRCyiIAA:10 a=CiRkrLRW1GAA:10 a=ll-iCDY8AAAA:8 a=M0OflfRGAAAA:8 a=hjG-uatGfSLRzucsExIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ivbTfD_dPm4A:10 a=P7WYajy3bUMA:10 a=QGOcX9mgUssA:10 a=6fpOX-4qs7AA:10 a=BQYh4w-RC7EA:10 a=vRAbILRZcFsA:10 a=HoKWpo76cBMA:10 a=aOZ2MaKkC-MA:10 a=t73DOvYHyfCq64Gq1FEA:9 a=ECjcureVVuQO71Ui:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=shockey.us; s=default; h=Content-type:Mime-version:Message-ID:To:From:Subject:Date; bh=AAsIC1xfvbfBIkedxwXsFRHzFeIEjpJj2Bc2JKsJE+8=; b=J2a+4BYcq7mFkF/F4VBprQAVIpZtox/pCFCPtQqgwgeCm/OIQW8w9lFoAgobYGFQHNoXCDQezTiCoguB95+to78iERz5yez1E0HuvaQUrof/ELQbK9XRsjYBvqmvqfG5; Received: from [72.66.64.164] (port=56317 helo=[192.168.1.12]) by box462.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xfxia-0000wv-IR for stir@ietf.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:08:48 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.5.141003 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:08:44 -0400 From: Richard Shockey To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Just asking is there an agenda for Hawaii? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3496583327_515360" X-Identified-User: {3286:box462.bluehost.com:shockeyu:shockey.us} {sentby:smtp auth 72.66.64.164 authed with richard+shockey.us} Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/nBAsYakIovgsGsJ6_OmW6W7yg9k Subject: [stir] Just asking is there an agenda for Hawaii? X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:09:06 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. 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--B_3496583327_515360-- From nobody Sun Oct 19 19:45:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66C01A1B05 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:45:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rjGK3hKKpaBS for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2087C1A1B03 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local ([173.64.248.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.9/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s9K2jU28046046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:45:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host [173.64.248.98] claimed to be unnumerable.local Message-ID: <54447743.1060304@nostrum.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:45:23 -0500 From: Robert Sparks User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Shockey , stir@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080705000600060007010905" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/XgbKiFsb7xCHmRHBZOY7w64eJ-o Subject: Re: [stir] Just asking is there an agenda for Hawaii? X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:45:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080705000600060007010905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While having an agenda in early is always nice, the draft WG agendas are due 27-Oct (same day as the draft deadline), and the final agendas are due 3-Nov. (see http://www.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates-2014.html#IETF91). I expect we'll be talking about a revised version and open issues with draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis and the forthcoming first version of draft-ietf-stir-certificates. RjS On 10/19/14 4:08 PM, Richard Shockey wrote: > > — > Richard Shockey > Shockey Consulting LLC > Chairman of the Board SIP Forum > www.shockey.us > Www.sipforum.org > richardshockey.us > Skype-Linkedin-Facebook rshockey101 > PSTN +1 703-593-2683 > > > > _______________________________________________ > stir mailing list > stir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir --------------080705000600060007010905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While having an agenda in early is always nice, the draft WG agendas are due 27-Oct (same day as the draft deadline),
and the final agendas are due 3-Nov. (see http://www.ietf.org/meeting/important-dates-2014.html#IETF91).

I expect we'll be talking about a revised version and open issues with
draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis and the forthcoming first version of
draft-ietf-stir-certificates.

RjS


On 10/19/14 4:08 PM, Richard Shockey wrote:

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--------------080705000600060007010905-- From nobody Wed Oct 22 16:12:23 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83381A876A; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:12:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ubieh0RRV2O1; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516511A8748; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:12:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141022231216.14482.47197.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:12:16 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/uP5WiIwpFivOSuypBv0vO6g0zJE Cc: stir@ietf.org Subject: [stir] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-02.txt X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:12:18 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Telephone Identity Revisited Working Group of the IETF. Title : Authenticated Identity Management in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Authors : Jon Peterson Cullen Jennings Eric Rescorla Filename : draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-02.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2014-10-22 Abstract: The baseline security mechanisms in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) are inadequate for cryptographically assuring the identity of the end users that originate SIP requests, especially in an interdomain context. This document defines a mechanism for securely identifying originators of SIP requests. It does so by defining new SIP header fields for conveying a signature used for validating the identity, and for conveying a reference to the credentials of the signer. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Oct 23 15:35:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB89D1AD580; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id clJECRbLL8SD; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8421AD578; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141023223454.17105.65719.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:34:54 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/Pd-iq1O8SXmc1VbfZVZO0TNxjDE Cc: stir@ietf.org Subject: [stir] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stir-certificates-00.txt X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 22:34:57 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Telephone Identity Revisited Working Group of the IETF. Title : Secure Telephone Identity Credentials: Certificates Authors : Jon Peterson Sean Turner Filename : draft-ietf-stir-certificates-00.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2014-10-23 Abstract: In order to prove ownership of telephone numbers on the Internet, some kind of public infrastructure needs to exist that binds cryptographic keys to authority over telephone numbers. This document describes a certificate-based credential system for telephone numbers, which could be used as a part of a broader architecture for managing telephone numbers as identities in protocols like SIP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stir-certificates-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Oct 27 07:56:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7A01A1B37; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:39:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jlDyHECWPyAg; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5271A0262; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 6700C181D18; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:38:39 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20141023213839.6700C181D18@rfc-editor.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/Xf9UT3ChHMQgN1QRabBo_URuJF0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:56:17 -0700 Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, stir@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [stir] RFC 7375 on Secure Telephone Identity Threat Model X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:39:08 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7375 Title: Secure Telephone Identity Threat Model Author: J. Peterson Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: October 2014 Mailbox: jon.peterson@neustar.biz Pages: 13 Characters: 31067 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-stir-threats-04.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7375.txt As the Internet and the telephone network have become increasingly interconnected and interdependent, attackers can impersonate or obscure calling party numbers when orchestrating bulk commercial calling schemes, hacking voicemail boxes, or even circumventing multi-factor authentication systems trusted by banks. This document analyzes threats in the resulting system, enumerating actors, reviewing the capabilities available to and used by attackers, and describing scenarios in which attacks are launched. This document is a product of the Secure Telephone Identity Revisited Working Group of the IETF. INFORMATIONAL: This memo provides information for the Internet community. 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Secure Telephone Identity Revistited (STIR)
IETF 91 - Tuesday 1300

Agenda:

10m Administrative 
20m ITU liaison statements 
45m draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-02
    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis>
30m draft-ietf-stir-certificates-00
    <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates>
15m checkpoint: out-of-band
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