From Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Tue Nov 5 06:35:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4513021E8297 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:35:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tDqDtBX-YU7E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC4721E827D for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.26]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id rA5EPSAf019349 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK); Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:25:31 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-041.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.1.204]) by 008-AM1MMR1-010.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.26]) with mapi id 14.03.0136.001; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:25:30 +0000 From: To: , Thread-Topic: Reminder: STOX virtual interim meeting in December to cover media signaling Thread-Index: Ac7aMmyxeha0/eXkQLuuD841otpOOQ== Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:25:30 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-tituslabs-classifications-30: TLPropertyRoot=Nokia;Confidentiality=Nokia Internal Use Only;Project=None; x-titus-version: 3.5.9.3 x-headerinfofordlp: None x-tituslabs-classificationhash-30: VgNFIFU9Hx+/nZJb9Kg7IqcjJtUXWOFaBfZ33R/L884Li+WGOIXl8oLMu9NBChx00gUEZLRtVYA42Ur82tdMbypRebfyMGODflQl7YBekY0SDG1JNoB6gWhC3HOss9cIRO58wb6yXfTNLm0esI6/NxBBAya1udoTS/pswzYXGUEEg4U/IseOJDrQuVGXckJWG9Wm7WhNJcLILJ6VIfryxXtSbHIKcksT2Fiv6WEX7RFjJrsgua9qBVYbaiJLrYPWH4/w1M/FNDtDQS6LlJ5bJ92n7CuQ+/pomQbuYHEI2+8= x-originating-ip: [172.16.42.40] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [Stox] Reminder: STOX virtual interim meeting in December to cover media signaling X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:35:21 -0000 Hi all, This is a reminder, that even though we are not meeting this week in Vancov= er, we have planned a virtual interim for December. It will focus on the me= dia signaling draft, that we expect to get updated for review for that sess= ion.=20 Please indicate your interest and availability by Nov 11 here (I'll send an= other reminder just before): http://www.doodle.com/eqrnsuht8n32zfg7 We will announce the date right after. Markus > -----Original Message----- > From: stox-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:stox-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > ext Yana Stamcheva > Sent: 15 October, 2013 00:43 > To: stox@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Stox] Replace Vancouver meeting by December virtual interim >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Please note that the Vancouver meeting is now canceled. However a Virtual > Interim Meeting will be organised in December. The meeting will be mainly > focused on the -media draft and would aim an 1h30 extended discussion on > all open issues. >=20 > Please use the following poll to indicate your availabilities for the fir= st three > weeks of December before November 11: >=20 > http://www.doodle.com/eqrnsuht8n32zfg7 >=20 > Note that the purpose of the suggested hour ranges is to only indicate th= e > approximate time at which the meeting will be held. Once we've chosen a > particular day and time range we should be able to easily fix the exact h= ours. > Please use the "(yes)" option to indicate your "if need be" or "not sure" > availabilities. >=20 > A preliminary agenda will be sent to the list later on. >=20 > Regards, > Yana Stamcheva >=20 >=20 > On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:07 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >=20 > > On 10/08/2013 06:59 AM, Yana Stamcheva wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> After discussing the upcoming plan between the chairs and the authors > we have reconsidered the Vancouver meeting. Here's the current situation. > >> > >> We've made a 2 week WGLC on the -core and -presence drafts, which > ends on October 22. The -im and -chat drafts are almost ready and another > WGLC is previewed for both of them before October 30. We believe that an > extended discussion is mostly needed on the -media draft and unfortunatel= y > the co-authors of that one won't be available in Vancouver. We therefore > consider that a virtual interim meeting in December will make more sense = in > terms of timing and availability. > >> > >> So, unless there are any objections until the end of the week we plan = to > cancel the Vancouver slot and organise a virtual meeting in December. > > Works for me. However, the fact that we're not holding a meeting will n= ot > slow the pace of updating the documents and incorporating feedback, so > please keep your comments coming to the list. :-) > > > > Peter > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > stox mailing list > stox@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stox From Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Tue Nov 5 06:40:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E946C21E8170 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:40:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.391, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G1yNzpE4ycrj for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A96F21E82A3 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.25]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id rA5EXXcE023824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:34:53 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-041.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.1.204]) by 008-AM1MMR1-009.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.25]) with mapi id 14.03.0136.001; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:34:44 +0000 From: To: Thread-Topic: STOX status Thread-Index: Ac7aMu/wxv8fZ4UGQf+LYiFTCqOc8Q== Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:34:44 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-tituslabs-classifications-30: TLPropertyRoot=Nokia;Confidentiality=Nokia Internal Use Only;Project=None; x-titus-version: 3.5.9.3 x-headerinfofordlp: None x-tituslabs-classificationhash-30: 2PrCjJ7f5poVv9TjWbkmkt1+lPZN8QLJumFOypYXNOr5zcyk79xDPTVlbIZf0HvwhDRY+3lm+aoDPw3sSFTz/SKfBQcjHHh2zNLNiCLeNmEKsnFiGdzrpc4YKlZT1ea59f4lr7uV/DVRtWm2VSHiRkpdH2vasRb3me6UaY6wjFsnyqZKZbQO2GGkjP/pXIZE/Gx4mObSwxW0nOjUo7e/xg== x-originating-ip: [172.16.42.40] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [Stox] STOX status X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:40:36 -0000 Hi, Here's a brief status update about where we are with STOX at the moment: * WG last call for -core and -presence drafts has been concluded. No new is= sues were raised, and we got a few (~4) comments that the documents are "re= ady to go". Between the Berlin IETF and the LC, we got several reviews on t= hese documents and the documents were updated to address all the review com= ments. This means the chairs will take these documents to the AD (Gonzalo) = and we will start the process for the IESG review. * The -im, -chat, and -groupchat documents have gotten a good amount of rev= iew too since Berlin. The chairs are planning to announce WG last call on t= hese three documents shortly after the Vancouver IETF.=20 * The -media draft has not progressed since Berlin. We have however setup p= lans to have a virtual interim focusing on that document. The co-authors ha= ve promised an update by the deadline for the interim. Based on the interim= we will see how much work still remains on that topic. The scoping should = be relatively clear based on the discussions Berlin. Regards, Markus (and Yana) From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Nov 5 17:42:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D5921E812B for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:42:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.708, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qohaphU9-WOJ for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FC521E81A4 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sjc-vpn3-1085.cisco.com (unknown [128.107.239.234]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4FCF84032B; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:40:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <52799DF7.9080803@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 17:40:07 -0800 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sa=FAl_Ibarra_Corretg=E9?= , stox@ietf.org References: <1B5D6CBE-2151-4749-8A7C-8122B04BB071@ag-projects.com> In-Reply-To: <1B5D6CBE-2151-4749-8A7C-8122B04BB071@ag-projects.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Stox] On generating RFC4575 participants list out of a MUC X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 01:42:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Saúl! On 10/25/13 1:38 AM, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé wrote: > Hi all, > > This is regarding the issue I mentioned at the meeting in Berlin > to which Peter referred recently. > > In 4575 there are 2 types of entities which kind of relate to > participants: users and endpoints. Each user contains a list of > endpoints. As per the RFC: > > - "The element is a container of child elements, > each describing a single participant in the conference." > > - "By including one or more elements under a parent > element, the server can provide the desired level of detail > (including the state, media streams, and access information) about > the user's devices and signaling sessions taking part in the > conference." > > In SIP a user would be an AoR and an endpoint would be the contact > or GRUU. > > In XMPP tough, things are a bit more complicated. In the beginning > I thought we could use the user bare JID as the element and > the occupant JID as the , but in practice this is not > going to work, because the real JID is not always available in a > MUC. > > So, considering that, here is how I propose we proceed: > > - element entity is the occupant JID - if the real JID is > available, it MAY be added as a child element of > (4575, sec 5.6.2) (based on local policy) - > entity is also the occupant JID > > Neither user entity or endpoint entity is an xs:ID, so using it in > both places doesn't invalidate the document :-) > > Thoughts? Your analysis looks reasonable to me, and I think that's the best we can do given the information that will usually be available in an XMPP multi-user chat room. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSeZ32AAoJEOoGpJErxa2pXOEQALM+zCq83LaE82YTP4Hzar/g Jd5zRksJdrj32yVX2sEvO2pF7Zmi+4lHN6NTlJ+y219pTox4sB+BPFK89viRjyG/ J5tdfruQ9A4ugKV+DGw9l9ddO5od7CVvjwSqalBI+n0xApuC+acpLKspA7uuKsfu 4qRVborWHAm/FL0whklSDduBeFaaVFibH/OGEIRkf7vldTiNaGV0POsbDTx8uHlf 1eHYvonkeGYDTRcWC2/Ry6KBCFN2fN+s43PFqkaAHjIkDoFZNUGcx0enyAQ5TjUW tP3uniGrayVYbgcx2M4HYelkPJSCKAxXELJZODWEL8xKvFC5zsnsId9XqaY1iszf fiwDCjGoeUWDzrcxU7PWv4L+7MFCQmZv06EXphWBLEzDU05nNbHsBVBovlLyu88l bjGyg8+RJyOeh0F1l4zx0aiHV2EB4K7PshPsBG+kCSvx2ApFf9sKn6zAvECc0d// DAYYwjftD1v6gR5Fv2wlbN147xdWJKGTBtGFBC44P3+FyadZNj5wxD6Z0+kOESV8 mbSlVNntJFE2T7Iw1Td2LtHj+aPaarxZ/6SL4xs0gMk7sOv366z1eHzmyPlBC24V NKuw0MzBfEwgLEXOL3u1LqLSII13+MnmqsBuyogBe+L9J/cN3rpOxtFN6r4XhPVp VReUows2wtCw6gyQ96CZ =Tmo1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From saul@ag-projects.com Mon Nov 11 08:38:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4795C11E8106 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:38:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.818 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.818 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dyU1EmJ3I+UR for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail3.sipthor.net (node16.dns-hosting.info [81.23.228.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BA111E80E4 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (15.83-213-189.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es [83.213.189.15]) by mail3.sipthor.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D669B14AC001; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:38:23 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sa=FAl_Ibarra_Corretg=E9?= In-Reply-To: <52799DF7.9080803@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:37:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1B5D6CBE-2151-4749-8A7C-8122B04BB071@ag-projects.com> <52799DF7.9080803@stpeter.im> To: Peter Saint-Andre X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: stox@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Stox] On generating RFC4575 participants list out of a MUC X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:38:18 -0000 Hi Peter! >=20 > Your analysis looks reasonable to me, and I think that's the best we > can do given the information that will usually be available in an XMPP > multi-user chat room. >=20 Thanks, I'll try to post an updated version of the group chat draft by = the end of the week. -- Sa=FAl Ibarra Corretg=E9 AG Projects From Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Tue Nov 12 03:30:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472CB21E80AC for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:30:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.113 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.113 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.384, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jnvJink99gnb for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-sa02.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.1.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7B421E80C1 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.50]) by mgw-sa02.nokia.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id rACBRCtd027810 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:27:28 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-041.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.1.204]) by 008-AM1MMR2-016.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.50]) with mapi id 14.03.0136.001; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:27:18 +0000 From: To: Thread-Topic: STOX interim on Dec 17 Thread-Index: Ac7fmEAwSVsPLXVnTemYAq/ZIsxLBw== Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:27:18 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-tituslabs-classifications-30: TLPropertyRoot=Nokia;Confidentiality=Nokia Internal Use Only;Project=None; x-titus-version: 3.5.9.3 x-headerinfofordlp: None x-tituslabs-classificationhash-30: 2PrCjJ7f5poVv9TjWbkmkhNyFftVGcxoxWYCmBYVFnx1A6YiX8KZcGSQDOjHFbk2TBnuUsHj4CesAtH5JMUpvdg1VsDDdayz2YfEH+h3j94qlyYUls5omKsJHEXDcyqpu1q0HJs8hX8KcT3NJcQbpN8Cplwe0fKevu/i2S6q7Ka0ZLyShk+wzJD4mAgcHhMPtIGT8lP3lNxjRACw97LUVgUtx5TQn7xp2Dg+ddGZMjc= x-originating-ip: [10.236.6.31] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [Stox] STOX interim on Dec 17 X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:30:21 -0000 Hi, Based on the Doodle poll, we will be having the STOX WG virtual interim on: Tuesday December 17 at 4pm UTC. So please put that in your calendar. The main topic will be the media signa= ling draft. The official announcement will be sent shortly and the more det= ailed agenda and remote attendance info will be published closer to the mee= ting. Markus=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > This is a reminder, that even though we are not meeting this week in > Vancover, we have planned a virtual interim for December. It will focus o= n > the media signaling draft, that we expect to get updated for review for t= hat > session. >=20 > Please indicate your interest and availability by Nov 11 here (I'll send = another > reminder just before): > http://www.doodle.com/eqrnsuht8n32zfg7 >=20 > We will announce the date right after. >=20 > Markus >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: stox-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:stox-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of ext Yana Stamcheva > > Sent: 15 October, 2013 00:43 > > To: stox@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Stox] Replace Vancouver meeting by December virtual > > interim > > > > Hello, > > > > Please note that the Vancouver meeting is now canceled. However a > > Virtual Interim Meeting will be organised in December. The meeting > > will be mainly focused on the -media draft and would aim an 1h30 > > extended discussion on all open issues. > > > > Please use the following poll to indicate your availabilities for the > > first three weeks of December before November 11: > > > > http://www.doodle.com/eqrnsuht8n32zfg7 > > > > Note that the purpose of the suggested hour ranges is to only indicate > > the approximate time at which the meeting will be held. Once we've > > chosen a particular day and time range we should be able to easily fix = the > exact hours. > > Please use the "(yes)" option to indicate your "if need be" or "not sur= e" > > availabilities. > > > > A preliminary agenda will be sent to the list later on. > > > > Regards, > > Yana Stamcheva > > From yana@sip-communicator.org Mon Nov 25 08:12:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AD91ADE8A for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JfV40MorEHpu for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bk0-f51.google.com (mail-bk0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3940A1ADE87 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 6so2041615bkj.24 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=EQztiaqFQ0zIPQS45tipZozKxwTDJ7EDfLoRWNRBa8U=; b=JkADhGA1h6MYVk1ed380QXEZxe4bHqDYzA01zbSryHqhJJiYGoAxHg0w3Y2j24HTv+ xNwQcpgQ7h303+nNuPKuSTlMN/tkbqeu5t5HgMoyQjNHdLDuKox13WUph0wGXExX/Vhu Th8WOohJZRx+96dmhu33zlvclMFSycDjPw6BtPrqpRaNaXFT08INWIYxR2JiRKGnLP6r 9vL/F6GNpQ3oaoISJ2pce8p0esHGBbHvJ7/2qDAdL+w9LqghMXoiVuDmpn827jGvXaU3 swVmVu5CRVBwdXZzz8N259U+FlNveckTctd9h3UYs/T/VPM3U6bV1rtpJAIw1UqoSEO+ +cWA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlR0BLC3BwgfZKgYQez/YAybrrmH0KZjB3Iid5+xfc87HqBKx92V9EW3O6cl4WNAWUF87fC X-Received: by 10.204.78.194 with SMTP id m2mr36598bkk.107.1385395962541; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (neu67-4-88-160-65-79.fbx.proxad.net. [88.160.65.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm46960487bkg.1.2013.11.25.08.12.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:40 -0800 (PST) From: Yana Stamcheva Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:12:38 +0100 To: stox@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Subject: [Stox] WGLC for draft-ietf-stox-im-05 X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:12:45 -0000 The editors and the chairs believe that the following draft is now ready = and hereby start a 2-week Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-stox-im-05 : = http://http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-im-05 The WGLC ends on December 9, 2013. 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[88.160.65.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b7sm46960487bkg.1.2013.11.25.08.12.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: Yana Stamcheva Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:12:54 +0100 To: stox@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Subject: [Stox] WGLC for draft-ietf-stox-chat-03 X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:12:57 -0000 The editors and the chairs believe that the following draft is now ready = and hereby start a 2-week Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-stox-chat-03 : = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-chat-03 The WGLC ends on December 9, 2013. 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[88.160.65.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm50512949bko.11.2013.11.26.02.32.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:32:35 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) From: Yana Stamcheva In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 11:32:33 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8A22DC13-8A75-4D66-8C35-C9CC646FCC2A@jitsi.org> References: To: stox@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) Subject: Re: [Stox] WGLC for draft-ietf-stox-im-05 X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:32:41 -0000 And the correct link to the draft is as follows: draft-ietf-stox-im-05 : http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-im-05 On 25 Nov 2013, at 17:12, Yana Stamcheva wrote: > The editors and the chairs believe that the following draft is now = ready and hereby start a 2-week Working Group Last Call for: >=20 > draft-ietf-stox-im-05 : = http://http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-im-05 >=20 > The WGLC ends on December 9, 2013. >=20 > Please review the document and bring any remaining issues, or issues = whose resolution is not satisfactory, to the attention of the Working = Group on this list before December 9. If after reviewing the document = you find it complete and do not have any comments, please send a note to = that effect as well. >=20 > Regards, > Yana Stamcheva & Markus Isomaki From Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Wed Nov 27 01:39:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233EA1AE0B0 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:39:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.192 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.192 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT=0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nNRH2wLN2Gvs for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da02.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FDA1AE080 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.20]) by mgw-da02.nokia.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id rAR9Skms020426 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:29:14 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-041.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.1.177]) by 008-AM1MMR1-011.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.20]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.002; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:28:56 +0000 From: To: Thread-Topic: Dec 17 virtual interim preliminary agenda and WebEx info Thread-Index: Ac7rUl4Fbz+4U6IqTlC72uO8XvAs0g== Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:28:56 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-tituslabs-classifications-30: TLPropertyRoot=Nokia;Confidentiality=Nokia Internal Use Only; x-titus-version: 3.5.9.3 x-headerinfofordlp: x-tituslabs-classificationhash-30: 3Z1aE72pwhYZdCxOu/Iwjzgqscf+0axbbWzzQ3E8quPKs1pf145fjBvFQ38F07uSLtWZDgZBny1ojQ0xB3GpLmFTOQEUQ+yguQAEWDjNTGFN8dOfRhTueHaHyGA9BQBZD1E5i3DcA04CM1wmHBUd+tIHcqnm4w5tXlhcsIFwgCHw9P5ZGcFF9GM7VjvDWiDvxHO4oJo+7PrkKPSx2FeZyA5z0kp4SwDv4H07/L8B+vt9RfSZnjDUUIvtz0nSHG/H x-originating-ip: [10.236.10.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [Stox] Dec 17 virtual interim preliminary agenda and WebEx info X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:39:15 -0000 Hi, Here are the details of the STOX virtual interim to be held on Dec 17. The current version of draft-ietf-stox-media is -01, but the authors have p= romised an update latest one week before the meeting.=20 --- IP-to-XMPP (STOX) WG virtual interim Date: December 17, 2013 Time: 16:00 (4PM) UTC Maximum length: 1.5 hours Chairs: Markus Isom=E4ki, markus.isomaki@nokia.com Yana Stamcheva, yana@jitsi.org The meeting will focus on the "Media Sessions" draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-media/ Agenda (Subject to updates) 1. Opening (chairs, 5 min.) - Minutes, agenda bash 2. STOX WG status (chairs, 5 min.) - Where we are with core, presence, im, chat and groupchat 3. Media sign= aling walkthrough (Co-authors, 20 min.) - Explain how it is supposed to work - Clarifying questions allowed 4. Media signaling open issues and discussion (Co-authors, max. 50 min.) - Resolve issues if possible, Assign actions, Plan next revisions=20 5. 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Please note that any such recordings may be subject to discovery= in the event of litigation.=20 From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Wed Nov 27 04:49:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0992C1AE262; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:49:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HnWjO3H2oMSn; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9201AE244; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:49:20 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.83.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20131127124920.17385.35362.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:49:20 -0800 Cc: stox@ietf.org Subject: [Stox] Last Call: (Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Architecture, Addresses, and Error Handling) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:49:22 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the SIP-TO-XMPP WG (stox) to consider the following document: - 'Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Architecture, Addresses, and Error Handling' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-12-11. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract As a foundation for the definition of bidirectional protocol mappings between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), this document specifies the architectural assumptions underlying such mappings as well as the mapping of addresses and error conditions. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-core/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-core/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Wed Nov 27 04:50:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3591AE264; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:50:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OvV-9XBWpTUU; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E581AE259; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:50:26 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.83.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20131127125021.17377.29270.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:50:21 -0800 Cc: stox@ietf.org Subject: [Stox] Last Call: (Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:50:28 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the SIP-TO-XMPP WG (stox) to consider the following document: - 'Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-12-11. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines a bi-directional protocol mapping for the exchange of presence information between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP). The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-presence/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-presence/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Wed Nov 27 09:16:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CF61AD8F1; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:16:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZNuR-MhYBoWR; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDD11AD628; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:16:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: IESG Secretary To: IETF Announcement List X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.83.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20131127171607.29253.93489.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:16:07 -0800 Cc: stox@ietf.org Subject: [Stox] STOX WG Virtual Interim Meeting, December 17, 2013 X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: stox@ietf.org List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:16:10 -0000 SIP-to-XMPP (STOX) WG will host a virtual interim meeting on Dec 17, 2013, = at 16:00 UTC. Preliminary agenda and WebEx details: --- IP-to-XMPP (STOX) WG virtual interim Date: December 17, 2013 Time: 16:00 (4PM) UTC Maximum length: 1.5 hours Chairs: Markus Isom=C3=A4ki, markus.isomaki@nokia.com Yana Stamcheva, yana@jitsi.org The meeting will focus on the "Media Sessions" draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-media/ Agenda (Subject to updates) 1. Opening (chairs, 5 min.) - Minutes, agenda bash 2. STOX WG status (chairs, 5 min.) - Where we are with core, presence, im, chat and groupchat 3. Media signaling walkthrough (Co-authors, 20 min.) - Explain how it is supposed to work - Clarifying questions allowed 4. Media signaling open issues and discussion (Co-authors, max. 50 min.) - Resolve issues if possible, Assign actions, Plan next revisions 5. 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