From nobody Tue Nov 1 06:48:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietf.org Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8631294EA; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alissa Cooper" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.37.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147800811917.23892.1662525206263233255.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 06:48:39 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis@ietf.org, stox@ietf.org, stox-chairs@ietf.org, saul@ag-projects.com Subject: [Stox] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 13:48:39 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is a small suggested edit for text in Section 9.2. I think the normative "MUST honor data about ..." construction is vague. OLD Therefore, a gateway MUST honor data about the intended recipient of a presence notification (as represented by the 'to' address for XMPP and by the Request-URI for SIP) and it MUST NOT route or deliver a presence notification to any other entities, because it does not possess information about authorization to receive presence notifications for such entities - that information resides at the user's home service, not at the receiving gateway). NEW Therefore, a gateway MUST NOT route or deliver a presence notification to any entity other than the intended recipient (as represented by the 'to' address for XMPP and by the Request-URI for SIP), because it does not possess information about authorization to receive presence notifications for such entities - that information resides at the user's home service, not at the receiving gateway). 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(Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Below is a small suggested edit for text in Section 9.2. I think the > normative "MUST honor data about ..." construction is vague. > > OLD > Therefore, a gateway MUST honor data about > the intended recipient of a presence notification (as represented by > the 'to' address for XMPP and by the Request-URI for SIP) and it MUST > NOT route or deliver a presence notification to any other entities, > because it does not possess information about authorization to > receive presence notifications for such entities - that information > resides at the user's home service, not at the receiving gateway). > > NEW > Therefore, a gateway MUST > NOT route or deliver a presence notification to any entity other than > the intended recipient (as represented by > the 'to' address for XMPP and by the Request-URI for SIP), > because it does not possess information about authorization to > receive presence notifications for such entities - that information > resides at the user's home service, not at the receiving gateway). Yes, that's more concise. Will fix before publication. Thanks for the review! Peter From nobody Tue Nov 1 16:41:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietf.org Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F87129415; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:41:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Stephen Farrell" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.37.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147804371361.23900.7280904451371513758.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 16:41:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis@ietf.org, stox@ietf.org, stox-chairs@ietf.org, saul@ag-projects.com Subject: [Stox] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 23:41:53 -0000 Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Review based on diff vs 7248 [1] Thanks for adding 9.2. I agree with Alissa's comment. [1] https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=rfc7248&url2=draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13.txt From nobody Tue Nov 1 19:22:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietf.org Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BDA12940F; Tue, 1 Nov 2016 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Spencer Dawkins" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.37.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147805334703.23888.17484445599577212634.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2016 19:22:27 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis@ietf.org, stox@ietf.org, stox-chairs@ietf.org, saul@ag-projects.com Subject: [Stox] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2016 02:22:27 -0000 Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I was also a Yes on the draft that became RFC 7248, and this revision is a significant improvement (even beyond the corrected architecture). I especially appreciate the working group adding an actual introduction to the Introduction ... From nobody Thu Nov 3 15:46:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietf.org Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4C812998E; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.37.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147821316166.22780.7803617673764570292.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 15:46:01 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: stox@ietf.org Subject: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14.txt X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 22:46:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the SIP-TO-XMPP of the IETF. Title : Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence Author : Peter Saint-Andre Filename : draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2016-11-03 Abstract: This document defines a bidirectional protocol mapping for the exchange of presence information between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP). This document obsoletes RFC 7248. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Nov 3 17:52:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871791294FD for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.497, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q-W0DutZq1Sw for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5FE129408 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aither.local (unknown [76.25.4.24]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2CB97400EE; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 18:57:04 -0600 (MDT) To: stox@ietf.org References: <147821316166.22780.7803617673764570292.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Peter Saint-Andre Message-ID: <02edd052-6c12-a07a-4e79-6160c6483e4c@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 18:52:45 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <147821316166.22780.7803617673764570292.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14.txt X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 00:52:49 -0000 This version addresses a few issues raised during IESG review: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ballot/ Peter On 11/3/16 4:46 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the SIP-TO-XMPP of the IETF. > > Title : Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence > Author : Peter Saint-Andre > Filename : draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14.txt > Pages : 32 > Date : 2016-11-03 > > Abstract: > This document defines a bidirectional protocol mapping for the > exchange of presence information between the Session Initiation > Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol > (XMPP). This document obsoletes RFC 7248. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > stox mailing list > stox@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stox > From nobody Mon Nov 7 11:42:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stox@ietf.org Delivered-To: stox@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D765129646; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:42:37 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.37.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147854775727.7308.2400952159062927528.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 11:42:37 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ben@nostrum.com, stox-chairs@ietf.org, stox@ietf.org, saul@ag-projects.com, draft-ietf-stox-7248bis@ietf.org, The IESG , rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Stox] Protocol Action: 'Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14.txt) X-BeenThere: stox@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 19:42:37 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence' (draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-14.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the SIP-TO-XMPP Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alexey Melnikov, Ben Campbell and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/ Technical Summary This document describes bidirectional protocol mappings for the exchange of pressence information between SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) and XMPP (eXtensible Messaging and Presence Protocol) endpoints. RFC 7247 provided the basic architectural concepts for interworking between the two protocols, and this document is dedicated to describe to apply such concepts in the context of presence exchange. RFC 7248 was already published when some important problems were found in draft-ietf-stox-groupchat, which also applied to RFC 7248. This problems were related to the diagrams describing the architecture of the system, hence the need for a -bis RFC. Working Group Summary The STOX WG was created to tackle the task of producing the necessary specifications for SIP - XMPP interoperability. Presence was part of this work and the result was published as RFC 7248. Unfortunately, some issues raised by Ben Campbell [AD Note: Prior to becoming AD] during the review of draft-ietf-stox-groupchat also applied to draft-ietf-stox-presence, but it was already a published RFC. The issues raised where specifically: The consensus was to create a new document rather than submitting errata since the changes are significant. Document Quality During the review of this document, special attention was directed at the diagrams and signalling flows, which were throroughly reviewed by Markus Isomaki and Ben Campbell. Some vestiges of RFC 7248 were still present in the text, which the author corrected as per the received feedback. Diagrams were also further adjusted to better express the single gateway model (RFC 7248 used a dual-gateway architecture, as mentioned above). Last, terminology was clarified in order to better express the responsibilities of the involved signalling entities on the SIP side: 'SIP Proxy' replaced 'SIP server' and the role of a possibly separate SIP presence server was also clarified. All issues raised have been addressed and the document shepherd is not aware of any further standing problems with the document moving forward. Personnel The document shepherd is Saúl Ibarra Corretgé. The responsible Area Director is Ben Campbell.