From hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com Mon Nov 4 10:17:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A17011E81DE for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:17:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iK0enXv+RcRL for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFBF11E81F9 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rA4IHWLL029713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:17:33 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA4IHVWR026442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:17:32 GMT Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rA4IHVqL007232; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:17:31 GMT Received: from dhcp-a231.meeting.ietf.org (/31.133.162.49) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:17:31 -0800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A2BAAAF3-0188-482C-8B5F-929915A57A73" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Hadriel Kaplan In-Reply-To: <9F33F40F6F2CD847824537F3C4E37DDF17C2035A@MCHP04MSX.global-ad.net> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:17:29 -0500 Message-Id: <56C2D215-4E6C-42DE-970A-DF657104B389@oracle.com> References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C4F7129@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <2571E680-7047-4DFB-8779-1D6F29703A3B@gmail.com> <9F33F40F6F2CD847824537F3C4E37DDF17C2035A@MCHP04MSX.global-ad.net> To: "Hutton, Andrew" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] Cc: "rai-ads@tools.ietf.org" , Victor Pascual , "straw@ietf.org" , Christer Holmberg Subject: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" to "signaling/media-plane" X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:17:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A2BAAAF3-0188-482C-8B5F-929915A57A73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I too think it's obvious and clear the way it is right now, but have no = objection to changing the text. -hadriel On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, "Hutton, Andrew" = wrote: > Since the whole taxonomy is written in the context of SIP aware = B2BUA=92s I also am fine with the existing text but would not object to = making it even clearer. > =20 > Regards > Andy > =20 > =20 > =20 > From: straw-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:straw-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Victor Pascual > Sent: 28 October 2013 06:24 > To: Christer Holmberg > Cc: hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com; rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; straw@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" = to "signaling/media-plane" > =20 > (As individual) > =20 > I'm fine with the current text, but would have no objection if the WG = decided to include the suggestion below. > =20 > Thanks, > -Victor >=20 > On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > (As co-chair) > =20 > Hi, > =20 > As you may have seen, Albrecht has raised concern regarding the = "media-plane B2BUA" terminology in the b2bua-taxonomy document (it is = also used in other STRAW documents). > =20 > His issue has been that "media-plane" refers to actions taking place = on the media-plane, while the b2bua-taxonomy document defines = "media-plane B2BUA" as an entity that performs actions both on the = signaling plane and the media plane. > =20 > An easy way to address that would be to simply rename "media-plane = B2BUA" to "signaling/media-plane B2BUA", or something similar. > =20 > It would be a simple task to do (there should only 2-3 instances in = the draft), and would not require us to move the b2bua-taxonomy document = back to the WG (it is currently ongoing IESG review). > =20 > Would anyone object to such change? > =20 > Regards, > =20 > Christer > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw --Apple-Mail=_A2BAAAF3-0188-482C-8B5F-929915A57A73 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

I too think = it's obvious and clear the way it is right now, but have no objection to = changing the = text.

-hadriel


= On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, "Hutton, Andrew" <andrew.hutton@unify.com> = wrote:

Since the whole taxonomy = is written in the context of SIP aware B2BUA=92s I also am fine with the = existing text but would not object to making it even = clearer.
 
Regards
 
 
 
 straw-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:straw-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Victor = Pascual
Sent: 28 October 2013 = 06:24
To: Christer = Holmberg
Cc: hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com; = rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; straw@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: = proposal to change "media-plane" to = "signaling/media-plane"
 
(As individual)
 
I'm = fine with the current text, but would have no objection if the WG = decided to include the suggestion below.
 
Thanks,
-Victor


On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:06 = PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> = wrote:

(As = co-chair)
As you may = have seen, Albrecht has raised concern regarding the "media-plane B2BUA" = terminology in the b2bua-taxonomy document (it is also used in other = STRAW documents).
His issue = has been that "media-plane" refers to actions taking place on the = media-plane, while the b2bua-taxonomy document defines "media-plane = B2BUA" as an entity that performs actions both on the signaling plane = and the media plane.
An easy way = to address that would be to simply rename "media-plane B2BUA" to = "signaling/media-plane B2BUA", or something = similar.
It would be = a simple task to do (there should only 2-3 instances in = the draft), and would not require us to move the b2bua-taxonomy = document back to the WG (it is currently ongoing IESG = review).
Would = anyone object to such change?
 
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= --Apple-Mail=_A2BAAAF3-0188-482C-8B5F-929915A57A73-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Mon Nov 4 10:22:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB20521E81C3 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:22:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.675, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dk767gDHjL8k for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C2F21E805F for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:22:05 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7eff8e000006d14-7a-5277e5cc4a13 Received: from ESESSHC022.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id F8.63.27924.CC5E7725; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 19:22:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.201]) by ESESSHC022.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 19:22:04 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: Hadriel Kaplan , "Hutton, Andrew" Thread-Topic: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" to "signaling/media-plane" Thread-Index: AQHO0+I0SYKyXPFkpUGiM7eUbgNXWZoVW7aAgAARB7A= Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 18:22:04 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C50B40F@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C4F7129@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> <2571E680-7047-4DFB-8779-1D6F29703A3B@gmail.com> <9F33F40F6F2CD847824537F3C4E37DDF17C2035A@MCHP04MSX.global-ad.net> <56C2D215-4E6C-42DE-970A-DF657104B389@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <56C2D215-4E6C-42DE-970A-DF657104B389@oracle.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: fi-FI X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.154] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C50B40FESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpmkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3RvfM0/Igg+bFNhbbNpRafNr0idli 7/Z5jBa3mh+zWvzZ3cHowOqxc9Zddo8lS34yeXx8eovF48vlz2we23seswSwRnHZpKTmZJal FunbJXBltB+8wVqwdwVjxe5/DawNjD+nM3YxcnJICJhI7Fo/jQ3CFpO4cG89kM3FISRwiFFi VddJFpCEkMBiRonW/XJdjBwcbAIWEt3/tEHCIgIxEp/ONYHVMwt0M0pcf/qXHaRGWCBJYt9j aYiaZInnV66zQNhWEi9az4HtZRFQkZi6fzoTiM0r4Cvx7ewjdoi9PxklvjWeYgVJcArYSex8 NB2smRHouO+n1oA1MAuIS3w4eJ0Z4mgBiSV7zkPZohIvH/9jhbCVJBbd/gxVny+xdvIhqGWC EidnPmGZwCg6C8moWUjKZiEpg4jrSdyYOoUNwtaWWLbwNVS9rsSMf4dYkMUXMLKvYmTPTczM SS8338QIjMiDW34b7GDcdF/sEKM0B4uSOO+Ht85BQgLpiSWp2ampBalF8UWlOanFhxiZODil Ghjnc3JES89bfWkPj+gMj49a8113J6zKsZz/SezsCbeEffW751UrJHVzFi9vYN9sdOOB2c9w UY73X6+0x2yqsZqcUWWi9ayDRfHkZeuL5xQ+eN980Ch8MVXU1qHZZk1JgOotxrzw51UFMxYc yZxUnHApRcvLUfZReMfDt8WvXb46bulze/fYbLMSS3FGoqEWc1FxIgBd7aGOlgIAAA== Cc: "rai-ads@tools.ietf.org" , Victor Pascual , "straw@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" to "signaling/media-plane" X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:22:15 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C50B40FESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (As co-chair) Hi, Thanks Hadriel! So, as nobody has objected to the change, we will go ahead and do it. Based on discussions with the AD, as the draft is already in the RFC editor= 's queue, the change will be done as part of the AUTH48 process. We ask the authors of the other drafts to see whether the change affect the= ir draft, and if so, please implement the change in the next version. Regards, Christer L=E4hett=E4j=E4: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com] L=E4hetetty: 4. marraskuuta 2013 20:17 Vastaanottaja: Hutton, Andrew Kopio: Victor Pascual; Christer Holmberg; rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; straw@iet= f.org Aihe: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" to "sign= aling/media-plane" I too think it's obvious and clear the way it is right now, but have no obj= ection to changing the text. -hadriel On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, "Hutton, Andrew" > wrote: Since the whole taxonomy is written in the context of SIP aware B2BUA's I a= lso am fine with the existing text but would not object to making it even c= learer. Regards Andy From: straw-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:straw-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Victor Pascual Sent: 28 October 2013 06:24 To: Christer Holmberg Cc: hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com; rai-ads@to= ols.ietf.org; straw@ietf.org Subject: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" to "s= ignaling/media-plane" (As individual) I'm fine with the current text, but would have no objection if the WG decid= ed to include the suggestion below. Thanks, -Victor On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Christer Holmberg > wrote: (As co-chair) Hi, As you may have seen, Albrecht has raised concern regarding the "media-plan= e B2BUA" terminology in the b2bua-taxonomy document (it is also used in oth= er STRAW documents). His issue has been that "media-plane" refers to actions taking place on the= media-plane, while the b2bua-taxonomy document defines "media-plane B2BUA"= as an entity that performs actions both on the signaling plane and the med= ia plane. An easy way to address that would be to simply rename "media-plane B2BUA" t= o "signaling/media-plane B2BUA", or something similar. It would be a simple task to do (there should only 2-3 instances in the dra= ft), and would not require us to move the b2bua-taxonomy document back to t= he WG (it is currently ongoing IESG review). Would anyone object to such change? Regards, Christer _______________________________________________ straw mailing list straw@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw _______________________________________________ straw mailing list straw@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C50B40FESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(As co-chair)<= /span>

 <= /p>

Hi,

 <= /p>

Thanks Hadriel!

 <= /p>

So, as nob= ody has objected to the change, we will go ahead and do it.

 = ;

Based on d= iscussions with the AD, as the draft is already in the RFC editor’s q= ueue, the change will be done as part of the AUTH48 process.

 = ;

We ask the= authors of the other drafts to see whether the change affect their draft, = and if so, please implement the change in the next version.

 = ;

Regards,

 = ;

Christer

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L=E4hett=E4j=E4: Hadriel Kaplan [mailto:hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com]
L=E4hetetty: 4. marraskuuta 2013 20:17
Vastaanottaja: Hutton, Andrew
Kopio: Victor Pascual; Christer Holmberg; rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; st= raw@ietf.org
Aihe: Re: [straw] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-pla= ne" to "signaling/media-plane"

 

 

I too think it's obvious and clear the way it is rig= ht now, but have no objection to changing the text.

 

-hadriel

 

 

On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, "Hutton, Andrew&qu= ot; <andrew.hutton@unify.com<= /a>> wrote:



Since the = whole taxonomy is written in the context of SIP aware B2BUA’s I also = am fine with the existing text but would not object to making it even clearer.

 

Regards

Andy

 

 

 

From: st= raw-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:straw-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Victor Pascual
Sent: 28 October 2= 013 06:24
To: Christer Holmb= erg
Cc: hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com; rai-ads@tools.ietf.org; straw@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [stra= w] b2bua-taxonomy: proposal to change "media-plane" to "sign= aling/media-plane"

 

(As individual)

 

I'm fine with the current text,= but would have no objection if the WG decided to include the suggestion be= low.

 

Thanks,

-Victor

=
On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@er= icsson.com> wrote:

(As co-chair)

 

Hi,

 

As you may have seen, Alb= recht has raised concern regarding the "media-plane B2BUA" termin= ology in the b2bua-taxonomy document (it is also used in other STRAW documents).

 

His issue has been that &= quot;media-plane" refers to actions taking place on the media-plane, w= hile the b2bua-taxonomy document defines "media-plane B2BUA" as a= n entity that performs actions both on the signaling plane and the media plane.

 

An easy way to address th= at would be to simply rename "media-plane B2BUA" to "signali= ng/media-plane B2BUA", or something similar.

 

It would be a simple task= to do (there should only 2-3 instances in the draft), = and would not require us to move the b2bua-taxonomy document back to the WG= (it is currently ongoing IESG review).<= /span>

 

Would anyone object to su= ch change?

 

Regards,

 

Christer

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--_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C50B40FESESSMB209erics_-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Wed Nov 27 05:22:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D6A1AC441 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:22:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.239 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.239 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BoResYGB9-nu for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sessmg20.mgmt.ericsson.se (sessmg20.ericsson.net [193.180.251.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878301A1F54 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:22:02 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb32-b7f388e0000057e0-f1-5295f1f92d07 Received: from ESESSHC011.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by sessmg20.mgmt.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 3E.B9.22496.9F1F5925; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:22:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.73]) by ESESSHC011.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.51]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:22:01 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: "straw@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WGLC for draft-ietf-straw-sip-traceroute-01.txt Thread-Index: Ac7rcuYDAeF1mYlLTrulitSjztnxCA== Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:22:00 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55DF6C@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.20] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55DF6CESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvre7Pj1ODDF6ck7W41fyY1YHRY8mS n0wBjFFcNimpOZllqUX6dglcGT8uLWcr6JKruD39IXMD4y6pLkZODgkBE4lji/oZIWwxiQv3 1rN1MXJxCAmcYJRYfuoqE4SzmFFi/6xdzF2MHBxsAhYS3f+0QRpEBFQlJny5CdYsDBSev/MY K0TcVuLcmz9Qtp7Em797wGpYgOpPzvrCBmLzCvhKXLvWwARiMwIt/n5qDZjNLCAucevJfCaI gwQkluw5zwxhi0q8fPyPFcJWlLg6fTlUfb7EuaYrLBAzBSVOznzCMoFRaBaSUbOQlM1CUgYR 15FYsPsTG4StLbFs4WtmGPvMgcdMyOILGNlXMUoWpxYX56YbGejlpueW6KUWZSYXF+fn6RWn bmIExsbBLb+NdjCe3GN/iFGag0VJnPc6a02QkEB6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmrxIUYmDk6pBsa5 zW/3NcyOmOZuOcslM+DTj83BBZF/S9/sDVn6o0942conBwKZlj6p2xn/P/3l7Nr2E6U/oyXP XGoKTlkbZG9yKHWPWua5V/K7ncqXZJ4vCAu85u5Xu92v5qtq8m6tl5m1f7UDKoz/TVDTnej/ 5/Oh8Ge7dcubhc/b3jkyfZlIy9md8d5ZFVeUWIozEg21mIuKEwG3k+uEWwIAAA== Subject: [straw] WGLC for draft-ietf-straw-sip-traceroute-01.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:22:04 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55DF6CESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (As co-chair) Hi, We could like to initiate WGLC for draft-ietf-straw-sip-traceroute-01.txt. We already earlier indicated that we will initiate the WGLC after Vancouver= , and got some very good comments. We will consider those as WGLC comments, but we of course encourage more pe= ople to review the draft. Even if You read the document, and don't have any= comments, it's good to indicate that. Please provide any comments by Friday 13th December (no, the choice of that= date was a pure coincidence :) Regards, Christer & Victor --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55DF6CESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(As co-chair)

 

Hi,

 

We could like to initiate WGLC for draft-ietf-straw-= sip-traceroute-01.txt.

 

We already earlier indicated that we will initiate t= he WGLC after Vancouver, and got some very good comments.

 

We will consider those as WGLC comments, but we of c= ourse encourage more people to review the draft. Even if You read the docum= ent, and don’t have any comments, it’s good to indicate that.

 

Please provide any comments by Friday 13th December (no, the choice of that date was a pure coincidence :)

 

Regards,

 

Christer & Victor

--_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55DF6CESESSMB209erics_-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Wed Nov 27 05:31:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE181AD7C5 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:31:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.85 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.85 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y9-ZS5JOptwV for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02E11AD6BF for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:31:34 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f1c8e000005ceb-1e-5295f435b18e Received: from ESESSHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 17.7C.23787.534F5925; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:31:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.73]) by ESESSHC007.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.39]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:31:32 +0100 From: Christer Holmberg To: "straw@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Request for WG adoption: draft-miniero-straw-b2bua-rtcp-00 Thread-Index: Ac7rdCGdm2gqMTCbSIK/fKSkkNUP8g== Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:31:32 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55EFC5@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.20] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55EFC5ESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrFLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvra7Zl6lBBi39TBbbtyxgsrjV/JjV gcljyZKfTB4dD++zBzBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGX0fj3HWrBAoWLbmivMDYx7ZboYOTkkBEwk /s35wAZhi0lcuLceyObiEBI4xCjxbfVKVghnMaPEn3tbgRwODjYBC4nuf9ogDSICqhITvtxk BLGZBZwlft5exQxiCwPZ59csZoSo8ZC4c/o4C4StJ/F8dz9YnAWod+Gd5WA2r4CvxPK168Fq GIGO+H5qDRPETHGJW0/mM0EcJyCxZM95ZghbVOLl43+sELaixNXpy5lATmMWyJc4dcofYqSg xMmZT1gmMArPQjJpFkLVLCRVECU6Egt2f2KDsLUlli18zQxjnznwmAlZfAEj+ypG9tzEzJz0 csNNjMD4OLjlt+4OxlPnRA4xSnOwKInzfnjrHCQkkJ5YkpqdmlqQWhRfVJqTWnyIkYmDU6qB seXq5QfHJrWt/M4x/67K6+jia5Y3VpS93O05sf/84WMytx6dXVYr/WUHI1+W29I3a1auNjX+ kq8n7m8RHL12d8HzM1e570X4egtM/HP0gWBcCOO+yUrznH1d4q4uCtrnGfmkbeN9xlKh0y+z Tpx+5mDubT67bSvj2lAZtuAZtrb+Xz8++bbTkVuJpTgj0VCLuag4EQA56MZxXQIAAA== Cc: "Lorenzo Miniero \(lorenzo@meetecho.com\)" Subject: [straw] Request for WG adoption: draft-miniero-straw-b2bua-rtcp-00 X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:31:37 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55EFC5ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (As co-chair) Hi, Some time ago Lorenzo submitted draft-miniero-straw-b2bua-rtcp-00, as input= for the following STRAW delivery: "A document defining the requirements for B2BUAs to support RTCP end-to-end= submitted to the IESG as PS" The chairs asked whether someone else is planning to submit a draft for the= delivery, but we have not received any such indication. Therefore, we would like to suggest that the WG adopts draft-miniero-straw-= b2bua-rtcp-00 as base for the delivery. Please indicate by December 6th if you have an issue with that. Regards, Christer & Victor --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C55EFC5ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(As co-chair)

 

Hi,

 

Some time ago Lorenzo submitted draft-miniero-straw-= b2bua-rtcp-00, as input for the following STRAW delivery:

 

“A document defin= ing the requirements for B2BUAs to support RTCP end-to-end submitted to the= IESG as PS”

 

The chairs asked whether someone else is planning to= submit a draft for the delivery, but we have not received any such indicat= ion.

 

Therefore, we would like to suggest that the WG adop= ts draft-miniero-straw-b2bua-rtcp-00 as base for the delivery.

 

Please indicate by December 6th if you ha= ve an issue with that.

 

Regards,

 

Christer & Victor

 

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