From nobody Thu Jun 19 10:52:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B221A0161; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:52:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GOsIcoEshbvi; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525CB1A02AE; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.5.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140619175225.31494.19293.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:52:25 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/straw/ZctmH1LfETXallGGNpyiPkL5pis Cc: straw chair , straw mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [straw] Protocol Action: 'Loop Detection Mechanisms for Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to- Back User Agents (B2BUAs)' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-loop-detection-04.txt) X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 17:52:28 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Loop Detection Mechanisms for Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back- to- Back User Agents (B2BUAs)' (draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-loop-detection-04.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Richard Barnes and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-loop-detection/ Technical Summary: Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. SIP provides a means of preventing infinite request forwarding loop in [RFC3261], and a means of mitigating parallel forking amplification floods in [RFC5393]. Neither document normatively defines specific behavior for B2BUAs, however. Unbounded SIP request loops have actually occurred in SIP deployments, numerous times. The cause of loops is usually misconfiguration, but the reason they have been unbounded/unending is they crossed B2BUAs that reset the Max-Forwards value in the SIP requests they generated on their UAC side. Although such behavior is technically legal per [RFC3261] because a B2BUA is a UAC, the resulting unbounded loops have caused service outages and make troubleshooting difficult. Furthermore, [RFC5393] also provides a mechanism to mitigate the impact of parallel forking amplification issues, through the use of a "Max-Breadth" header field. If a B2BUA does not pass on this header field, parallel forking amplification is not mitigated with the [RFC5393] mechanism. This document defines normative requirements for Max-Forwards and Max-Breadth header field behaviors of B2BUAs, in order to mitigate the effect of loops and parallel forking amplification. Working Group Summary: Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? The WG path of this document was reasonably short and efficient. Several technical comments were made during reviews and all were resolved with consensus. There is consensus in the STRAW WG to publish this document. Document Quality: Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? The guidelines and procedures in the document is based on input and experience from the implementer community. Personnel: Who is the Document Shepherd? Christer Holmberg (christer.holmberg@ericsson.com -- STRAW WG co-chair). Who is the Responsible Area Director? Richard Barnes. RFC Editor Note OLD: If the received request did not contain a Max-Forwards header field, one MUST be created in any request generated in the UAC side, which SHOULD be 70, as described for Proxies in section 16.6 part 3 of [RFC3261]. NEW: If the received request did not contain a Max-Forwards header field, one MUST be created in any request generated in the UAC side, as described for Proxies in section 16.6 part 3 of [RFC3261]. As in that specification, the value of the new Max-Forwards header SHOULD be 70. From nobody Fri Jun 20 01:35:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B251A0351; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:35:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bPTJKs5FRXqO; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076401AD6B1; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:35:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.5.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140620083538.30131.2555.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 01:35:38 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/straw/co80z3KnuQALewbe8CStQWsvloM Cc: straw@ietf.org Subject: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-01.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:35:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work Working Group of the IETF. Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero Sergio Garcia Murillo Victor Pascual Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-01.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2014-06-20 Abstract: SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media themselves, thus leading to separate media legs that the B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, though, this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, especially when statistics and feedback information contained in RTCP packets get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Jun 20 17:05:12 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587AB1B291A; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:05:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8y5DfnIwlxtN; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061651A0311; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.5.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20140621000508.32482.2257.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:05:08 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/straw/UkRLOy-ErkY5av4eznxqC24Zd6k Cc: straw@ietf.org Subject: [straw] Last Call: (A Media-based Traceroute Function for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:05:09 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work WG (straw) to consider the following document: - 'A Media-based Traceroute Function for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-07-04. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract SIP already provides the ability to perform hop-by-hop traceroute for SIP messages using the Max-Forwards header field, in order to determine the reachability path of requests to a target. A mechanism for media-loopback calls has also been defined separately, which enables test calls to be generated which result in media being looped back to the originator. This document describes a means of performing hop-by-hop traceroute-style test calls using the media- loopback mechanism, in order to test the media path when SIP sessions go through media-relaying B2BUAs. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-sip-traceroute/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-sip-traceroute/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Sat Jun 21 10:00:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BC51A038B for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.152 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.152 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rmRPCLGKSXa8 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 275111A02BB for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2165; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1403370016; x=1404579616; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=e8uTzuxLbdOZ4VQrBZcaB7p0WK9gHfErcYKNUKVBxuU=; b=aGbg6tqa6W42EgZhs3OAby5FN1a1gNZFDSJn5QNk5pqVpVkxhBvJVkdC TBYXW9MIKuNGrpfdg6bXEKgKuIYUN8+t6jbsUgxCeyPAQrBM0JXWf016I k+rth/ERFyclMm54jYkNn6so9k/dYV53blYXp5Uc+P3g8M4HbvDOWBFeO c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQFAKa5pVOtJA2K/2dsb2JhbABZgw1SWsNWAYEHFnWEAwEBAQR3DgQCAQgRAwECLzIbAQEFAwIEEwmIOQ3IbxeOfQaEPQSKBpA+gUOSF4NCbIFE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,521,1400025600"; d="scan'208";a="334805184" Received: from alln-core-5.cisco.com ([173.36.13.138]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2014 17:00:14 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com [173.37.183.86]) by alln-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s5LH0E7h001667 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:00:14 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x05.cisco.com ([169.254.11.4]) by xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com ([173.37.183.86]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:00:14 -0500 From: "Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)" To: "straw@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHPjRIj83iRDiPHUUmzVsyJQX3Wqpt8enWA Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:00:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20140621053151.26750.39604.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20140621053151.26750.39604.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 x-originating-ip: [10.65.52.137] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <72059748991202479C9F08B00395C92C@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/straw/UL2P7EVSTEQLCopaG1rZQWtPc1U Subject: [straw] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:00:18 -0000 We have submitted a new draft that describes the behavior B2BUA=B9s should follow when acting on a media plane that uses DTLS-SRTP. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00 Comments and inputs are welcome Regards, Authors -----Original Message----- From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" Date: Saturday, 21 June 2014 11:01 am To: Ram Mohan Ravindranath , "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" , Victor Pascual , Victor Pascual , "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" , "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" , "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" , Ram Mohan Ravindranath Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt > >A new version of I-D, draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt >has been successfully submitted by Gonzalo Salgueiro and posted to the >IETF repository. > >Name: draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp >Revision: 00 >Title: DTLS-SRTP Handling in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) >Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) >Document date: 2014-06-20 >Group: Individual Submission >Pages: 10 >URL: =20 >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt >Status: =20 >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp/ >Htmlized: =20 >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00 > > >Abstract: > Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) > often function on the media plane, rather than just on the signaling > path. This document describes the behavior B2BUAs should follow when > acting on the media plane that use Secure Real-time Transport > Protocol (SRTP) security context setup with Datagram Transport Layer > Security (DTLS) protocol. > > =20 > =20 > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >submission >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >The IETF Secretariat > From nobody Mon Jun 30 02:47:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E841A01D2 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 02:47:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ok6ubyExk7Le for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 02:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg23.ericsson.net (sessmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C17FF1A00B7 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 02:47:31 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-f798a6d000000e9b-aa-53b132313688 Received: from ESESSHC017.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sessmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 75.DC.03739.13231B35; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:47:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.4]) by ESESSHC017.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.69]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:47:28 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: "Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)" , "straw@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHPjRIj83iRDiPHUUmzVsyJQX3Wqpt8enWAgAz6RG0= Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:47:27 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3AB11B@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <20140621053151.26750.39604.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.19] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvja6h0cZgg65rUhbLu3YwWtxqfszq wOQx5fdGVo8lS34yBTBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGUcmHuNpWCFRMWbLc+YGxhninQxcnJICJhI 7LrawARhi0lcuLeeDcQWEjjKKDHvMzeEvYhRYt2ngi5GDg42AQuJ7n/aIGERgRCJtx2f2EDC wgJBEtMem0CEgyWm7FrEDmFbSXR8n8sIUsIioCpx83kESJhXwFfi+sf9rBDDUyQa3/4BO4BT QF9iQu9bMJsR6Jjvp9aA2cwC4hK3nsyHOlJAYsme88wQtqjEy8f/WCFsRYn2pw2MEPV6Ejem TmGDsLUlli18zQyxV1Di5MwnLBMYRWchGTsLScssJC2zkLQsYGRZxShanFpcnJtuZKyXWpSZ XFycn6eXl1qyiREYHwe3/Nbdwbj6teMhRgEORiUe3gVHNgQLsSaWFVfmHmKU5mBREudddG5e sJBAemJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5OqQZGh3aPtlnv0zSND29+5r31jecPyZkzX5U+/uzx KnvpR7bWVwk8dxd8u3b+llDfO8vw3ZIyu3cePPL45/vb+tUvaoW6YhwcrUsOmLZPV9yTMkVE tvCKxL3tcZ5JDhIFq9e7bp5vVraag7Oo3mBG5HMmxVMBfKnNWzsnucS+PmcYkTSl6eG16qVX lFiKMxINtZiLihMBCYJ3t3ACAAA= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/straw/tQv5QhY-9mFvLDWjE4lZNMe4E1o Subject: Re: [straw] New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:47:34 -0000 (As co-chair) Hi, The draft below addresses the following STRAW delivery: "A document defining the requirements for B2BUAs to support DTLS-SRTP (= RFC 5764) end-to-end submitted to the IESG as PS" Currently there are no other drafts addressing the delivery, so our plan is= to perform an adoption call in the near future.=20 We therefor ask the community to take a look at the draft, to see whether t= here is anything that needs to be addressed before such adoption call is ma= de. Thanks! Regards, Christer ________________________________________ From: straw [straw-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Ram Mohan R (rmohanr) [rm= ohanr@cisco.com] Sent: Saturday, 21 June 2014 8:00 PM To: straw@ietf.org Subject: [straw] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtl= s-srtp-00.txt We have submitted a new draft that describes the behavior B2BUA=B9s should follow when acting on a media plane that uses DTLS-SRTP. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00 Comments and inputs are welcome Regards, Authors -----Original Message----- From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" Date: Saturday, 21 June 2014 11:01 am To: Ram Mohan Ravindranath , "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" , Victor Pascual , Victor Pascual , "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" , "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" , "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" , Ram Mohan Ravindranath Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt > >A new version of I-D, draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt >has been successfully submitted by Gonzalo Salgueiro and posted to the >IETF repository. > >Name: draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp >Revision: 00 >Title: DTLS-SRTP Handling in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) >Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) >Document date: 2014-06-20 >Group: Individual Submission >Pages: 10 >URL: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt >Status: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp/ >Htmlized: >http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00 > > >Abstract: > Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) > often function on the media plane, rather than just on the signaling > path. This document describes the behavior B2BUAs should follow when > acting on the media plane that use Secure Real-time Transport > Protocol (SRTP) security context setup with Datagram Transport Layer > Security (DTLS) protocol. > > > > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >submission >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >The IETF Secretariat > _______________________________________________ straw mailing list straw@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw= From nobody Mon Jun 30 08:42:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4AA1A0389 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.235 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.235 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tjUliho6xVbF for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:44:76:96:59:211]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62E51A0056 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id LbhW1o0091wpRvQ5Bfimpl; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:42:46 +0000 Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([50.138.229.164]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Lfim1o0053ZTu2S3efimZF; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:42:46 +0000 Message-ID: <53B18576.4010908@alum.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:42:46 -0400 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: straw@ietf.org References: <20140621053151.26750.39604.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1404142966; bh=k10HSqTdYNUX+xeD+aMAfKrYQO8f6mRGtDkt7Js9IiU=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=gJ0oWj7qnRa/YNbVojMJIpGULyDkAvZyzg7TgBibES24gv5YXzqhPMBV70pmBp/hY FPYddmjP4tlKoPAvURLzfQHhPRMbRHuevaCRByLA0GDng5LWDhA/GPezF09iokt2eY 7cxtaNkVV22PHJEcKbgwpEc44XPy62cCRvCg8w7Lh34jbEdDTH+1vvO4r8b2aQ7jXV NUDxt3v39DuZYSZG380dkmRPDrgMBd7HKDV+yB/roBP8Qf5MDriLCdQpz1EOpYFgHT gQ3xY/c/9LCZY4phdCZ8kv46N1yj0b2K5yP4kT4W+rViILTlt5ShnZUqq6JB+LAyO+ az+skMJCToN2Q== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/straw/tOV4opbxZjcTxMiCR6pcD68Cx48 Subject: Re: [straw] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:42:48 -0000 Comments on the draft: General point: This draft doesn't say anything about middleboxes that *remove* the encryption on the media stream. Especially given the recent issues about surveillance, I would think the right thing to do is say MUST NOT to this. OTOH, I assume that there are users of SBC who explicitly desire this behavior. At the least it should be discussed in the security considerations. Section 3.2: ISTM that Media Aware and Media Termination deserve separate treatment. A Media Aware relay doesn't need to encrypt - it can pass the incoming packets through. So it could simply observe the fingerprints as they go by without changing them, and then use to do decryption. Also, doesn't this depend on how much scrutiny it gives to the packets. IIUC, with SRTP the RTP packet headers are not encrypted, so some basic level of scrutiny of the RTP can be done without any decryption. Thanks, Paul On 6/21/14 1:00 PM, Ram Mohan R (rmohanr) wrote: > We have submitted a new draft that describes the behavior B2BUAšs should > follow when acting on a media plane that uses DTLS-SRTP. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00 > > > Comments and inputs are welcome > > Regards, > Authors > > -----Original Message----- > From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" > Date: Saturday, 21 June 2014 11:01 am > To: Ram Mohan Ravindranath , "Tirumaleswar Reddy > (tireddy)" , Victor Pascual > , Victor Pascual , > "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" , "Gonzalo Salgueiro > (gsalguei)" , "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" > , Ram Mohan Ravindranath > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt > >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Gonzalo Salgueiro and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp >> Revision: 00 >> Title: DTLS-SRTP Handling in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) >> Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) >> Document date: 2014-06-20 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 10 >> URL: >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00.txt >> Status: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp/ >> Htmlized: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ram-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-00 >> >> >> Abstract: >> Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) >> often function on the media plane, rather than just on the signaling >> path. This document describes the behavior B2BUAs should follow when >> acting on the media plane that use Secure Real-time Transport >> Protocol (SRTP) security context setup with Datagram Transport Layer >> Security (DTLS) protocol. >> >> >> >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> > > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw >