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This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work of the IETF. Title : DTLS-SRTP Handling in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Ram Mohan Ravindranath Tirumaleswar Reddy Gonzalo Salgueiro Victor Pascual Parthasarathi Ravindran Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-12.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2016-04-04 Abstract: Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUA) exist on the signaling and media paths between the endpoints. This document describes the behavior of B2BUAs when Secure Real-time Transport (SRTP) security context is set up with the Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) protocol. 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bGlzdGluZm8vc3RyYXcNCj4+Pj4+IA0KPj4+PiANCj4+PiANCj4+DQo+DQoNCg== From nobody Mon Apr 11 05:23:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietf.org Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA8312ED48; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:23:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160411122345.13184.54306.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:23:45 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: straw@ietf.org Subject: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:23:45 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work of the IETF. Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero Sergio Garcia Murillo Victor Pascual Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt Pages : 18 Date : 2016-04-11 Abstract: SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, though, this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, especially when statistics and feedback information contained in RTCP packets get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Apr 11 05:26:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7597F12ED8A for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hdp5plgpyzFg for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpdg225.aruba.it (smtpcmd0756.aruba.it [62.149.156.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D091D12ED80 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lminiero ([95.235.56.87]) by smtpcmd07.ad.aruba.it with bizsmtp id h0Sf1s00u1sulaP010SgPh; Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:26:40 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:26:38 +0200 From: Lorenzo Miniero To: internet-drafts@ietf.org Message-ID: <20160411142638.7e3a5954@lminiero> In-Reply-To: <20160411122345.13184.54306.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20160411122345.13184.54306.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Organization: Meetecho X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: straw@ietf.org, i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:26:45 -0000 Hi all, this is just a refresh on the doc with updated references (RFC7667 and RFC 7656), I'll come back with a real update, addressing the latest reviews, next week or the one after that at the latest. Thanks, Lorenzo On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:23:45 -0700 internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required > for Applications to Work of the IETF. > > Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in > Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero > Sergio Garcia Murillo > Victor Pascual > Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt > Pages : 18 > Date : 2016-04-11 > > Abstract: > SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also > be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This > means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, > whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media > themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the > B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, though, > this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, > especially when statistics and feedback information contained in > RTCP packets get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. > > This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow > when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve > the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw From nobody Tue Apr 12 13:50:49 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietf.org Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8BF12DA47; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Alissa Cooper" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160412205046.32214.1920.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:50:46 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp@ietf.org, straw@ietf.org, straw-chairs@ietf.org, christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Subject: [straw] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-12: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:50:47 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-12: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for handling my DISCUSS points. From nobody Wed Apr 13 13:52:37 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F236812E52F; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:52:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tI9Bhi2lHsQb; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5608012E522; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id u3DKqTQ3034959 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:52:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Lorenzo Miniero" Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:52:29 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20160411142638.7e3a5954@lminiero> References: <20160411122345.13184.54306.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20160411142638.7e3a5954@lminiero> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.4r5234) Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp.all@ietf.org, straw@ietf.org Subject: Re: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:52:36 -0000 Hi Lorenzo, The reviews you mention occurred 10 months ago, and this is the second "expiration and reference refresh" update since then. If you are willing to drive things to resolution over the next small number of weeks, please proceed. But if things start to drag on again, we will need to consider whether there is still sufficient interest to progress the draft. Thanks, Ben. On 11 Apr 2016, at 7:26, Lorenzo Miniero wrote: > Hi all, > > this is just a refresh on the doc with updated references (RFC7667 and > RFC 7656), I'll come back with a real update, addressing the latest > reviews, next week or the one after that at the latest. > > Thanks, > Lorenzo > > > On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:23:45 -0700 > internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required >> for Applications to Work of the IETF. >> >> Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in >> Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero >> Sergio Garcia Murillo >> Victor Pascual >> Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt >> Pages : 18 >> Date : 2016-04-11 >> >> Abstract: >> SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also >> be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This >> means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, >> whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media >> themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the >> B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, >> though, >> this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, >> especially when statistics and feedback information contained in >> RTCP packets get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. >> >> This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow >> when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve >> the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> straw mailing list >> straw@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw > > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw From nobody Wed Apr 13 15:22:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0F412D77E for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:22:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r8h80GCmA3K5 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpcmd05155.aruba.it (smtpweb155.aruba.it [62.149.158.155]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AEDE12D721 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.208.6.199] ([40.131.126.206]) by smtpcmd05.ad.aruba.it with bizsmtp id hyMt1s00J4TJsg801yMvmy; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 00:21:58 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <20160411122345.13184.54306.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20160411142638.7e3a5954@lminiero> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----UMIR11BIFXSPCC5YNQP75YVXNL4UVT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Lorenzo Miniero Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:21:49 -0700 To: Ben Campbell Message-ID: <68988312-BF44-4EF6-8F54-C496BA7FE434@meetecho.com> Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp.all@ietf.org, straw@ietf.org Subject: Re: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:22:04 -0000 ------UMIR11BIFXSPCC5YNQP75YVXNL4UVT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Ben, Yes, I've already made substantial changes in the last few days, so I plan to post a new version early next week. Thanks, Lorenzo Il 13 aprile 2016 13:52:29 PDT, Ben Campbell ha scritto: >Hi Lorenzo, > >The reviews you mention occurred 10 months ago, and this is the second >"expiration and reference refresh" update since then. > >If you are willing to drive things to resolution over the next small >number of weeks, please proceed. But if things start to drag on again, >we will need to consider whether there is still sufficient interest to >progress the draft. > >Thanks, > >Ben. > >On 11 Apr 2016, at 7:26, Lorenzo Miniero wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> this is just a refresh on the doc with updated references (RFC7667 >and >> RFC 7656), I'll come back with a real update, addressing the latest >> reviews, next week or the one after that at the latest. >> >> Thanks, >> Lorenzo >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:23:45 -0700 >> internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required >>> for Applications to Work of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in >>> Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero >>> Sergio Garcia Murillo >>> Victor Pascual >>> Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt >>> Pages : 18 >>> Date : 2016-04-11 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also >>> be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. >This >>> means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, >>> whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media >>> themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the >>> B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, >>> though, >>> this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, >>> especially when statistics and feedback information contained in >>> RTCP packets get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. >>> >>> This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow >>> when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve >>> the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ >>> >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09 >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>> tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> straw mailing list >>> straw@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw >> >> _______________________________________________ >> straw mailing list >> straw@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw -- Inviato dal mio dispositivo Android con K-9 Mail. Perdonate la brevità. ------UMIR11BIFXSPCC5YNQP75YVXNL4UVT Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Ben,

Yes, I've already made substantial changes in the last few days, so I plan to post a new version early next week.

Thanks,
Lorenzo

Il 13 aprile 2016 13:52:29 PDT, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> ha scritto:
Hi Lorenzo,

The reviews you mention occurred 10 months ago, and this is the second 
"expiration and reference refresh" update since then.

If you are willing to drive things to resolution over the next small 
number of weeks, please proceed. But if things start to drag on again, 
we will need to consider whether there is still sufficient interest to 
progress the draft.

Thanks,

Ben.

On 11 Apr 2016, at 7:26, Lorenzo Miniero wrote:

 Hi all,

 this is just a refresh on the doc with updated references (RFC7667 and
 RFC 7656), I'll come back with a real update, addressing the latest
 reviews, next week or the one after that at the latest.

 Thanks,
 Lorenzo


 On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 05:23:45 -0700

internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
 directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required
 for Applications to Work of the IETF.

         Title           : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in
 Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors         : Lorenzo Miniero
                           Sergio Garcia Murillo
                           Victor Pascual
  Filename        : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09.txt
  Pages           : 18
  Date            : 2016-04-11

 Abstract:
    SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also
 be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling.  This
    means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well,
 whether to act as
media transcoders or to just passthrough the media
    themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the
    B2BUA correlates and bridges together.  If not disciplined, 
 though,
    this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience,
    especially when statistics and feedback information contained in
 RTCP packets get lost because of mismatches in the reported data.

    This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow
 when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve
 the end-to-end functionality of RTCP.


 The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/

 There's also a htmlized version available at:
 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09

 A diff from the previous version is available at:
 https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-09


 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
 submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
 tools.ietf.org.

 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
 ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


 straw mailing list
 straw@ietf.org
 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw


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Perdonate la brevità. ------UMIR11BIFXSPCC5YNQP75YVXNL4UVT-- From nobody Mon Apr 18 06:50:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietf.org Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A290C12D6C2; Mon, 18 Apr 2016 06:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160418135053.9318.13290.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 06:50:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: ben@nostrum.com, draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp@ietf.org, straw-chairs@ietf.org, straw@ietf.org, The IESG , christer.holmberg@ericsson.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [straw] Protocol Action: 'DTLS-SRTP Handling in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs)' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-12.txt) X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:50:53 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'DTLS-SRTP Handling in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs)' (draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp-12.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alexey Melnikov, Ben Campbell and Alissa Cooper. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp/ Technical Summary Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) often act on the media plane, rather than just on the signaling path. This means that B2BUAs often act on the media path leading to separate media legs that the B2BUA correlates and bridges together. The document describes the behavior such B2BUAs can adhere to when acting on the media plane that uses a Secure Real-time Transport (SRTP) security context set up with the Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) protocol. Working Group Summary The WG path of this document was reasonably short and efficient. Several technical comments were made during reviews and all were resolved with consensus. There is consensus in the STRAW WG to publish this document. Document Quality The guidelines and procedures in the document is based on input and experience from the implementer community. Personnel Christer Holmberg (christer.holmberg@ericsson.com -- STRAW WG co-chair) is the shepherd. Ben Campbell (ben@nostrum.com) is the responsible Area Director. From nobody Tue Apr 19 05:14:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietf.org Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DB412DE71; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:14:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160419121414.31625.24574.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:14:14 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: straw@ietf.org Subject: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:14:14 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work of the IETF. Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero Sergio Garcia Murillo Victor Pascual Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2016-04-19 Abstract: SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, though, this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, especially when statistics and feedback information contained in RTCP messages get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Apr 19 05:27:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB1512E204 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.921 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.921 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y8A9zcuPFIbH for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpcmd04134.aruba.it (smtpcmd04134.aruba.it [62.149.158.134]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B6612E1D0 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lminiero ([95.235.56.87]) by smtpcmd04.ad.aruba.it with bizsmtp id kCSx1s00f1sulaP01CSxn6; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:26:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:26:56 +0200 From: Lorenzo Miniero To: straw@ietf.org Message-ID: <20160419142656.691875cd@lminiero> In-Reply-To: <20160419121414.31625.24574.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20160419121414.31625.24574.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Organization: Meetecho X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:27:02 -0000 Hi all, as promised, I just uploaded an updated version of the RTCP draft. This revision tries to clarify the text throughout the whole document, and more in particular in 3.2, where the management of specific RTCP packet types is described: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt The document also updates some references, lists RFC7656 as a normative one and now mentions draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp in the Media Path Security section. Let me know if this was indeed a right step in addressing the overall clarity of the text, or if you believe some parts are still unclear and may benefit from further rewriting. As I'm not a native English speaker, pointers on specific sections that you feel are too obscure would be very helpful. Thanks, Lorenzo On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:14:14 -0700 internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required > for Applications to Work of the IETF. > > Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in > Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero > Sergio Garcia Murillo > Victor Pascual > Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt > Pages : 17 > Date : 2016-04-19 > > Abstract: > SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also > be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This > means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well, > whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media > themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the > B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, though, > this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, > especially when statistics and feedback information contained in > RTCP messages get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. > > This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow > when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve > the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw From nobody Tue Apr 19 05:42:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4E812D13D for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gop0GnL8ZgLN for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg22.ericsson.net (sesbmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0814512D520 for ; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:42:36 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-f79d86d0000062a1-c9-571627bbf957 Received: from ESESSHC005.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.33]) by sesbmg22.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id AE.CB.25249.BB726175; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:42:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.117]) by ESESSHC005.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.33]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:42:34 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Lorenzo Miniero , "straw@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHRmjUEjHUzascHCUagZRpcT0/ozp+RF5QAgAAl36A= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:42:34 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B37F6821C@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <20160419121414.31625.24574.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20160419142656.691875cd@lminiero> In-Reply-To: <20160419142656.691875cd@lminiero> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.149] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrDLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7ou5udbFwgw3dEhbbtyxgsrjV/JjV gcljyZKfTB4dD++zBzBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGX03djNVvBFuuLP2namBsbdYl2MnBwSAiYS x5adZoWwxSQu3FvP1sXIxSEkcIRRYs7UU6wQzhJGiS1tj9m7GDk42AQsJLr/aYM0iAj4Snx5 e5QFxBYWcJZ48X0dK0TcReJ8/ww2CNtKYualJWA2i4CqxKqWTWD1vEC91yY3MYLYQgJpEss+ NoPZnAL6EsvXbwGzGYEO+n5qDROIzSwgLnHryXwmiEMFJJbsOc8MYYtKvHz8D+oBJYm1h7ez QNTrSCzY/YkNwtaWWLbwNTPEXkGJkzOfsExgFJ2FZOwsJC2zkLTMQtKygJFlFaNocWpxUm66 kZFealFmcnFxfp5eXmrJJkZgnBzc8ttgB+PL546HGAU4GJV4eBUmioYLsSaWFVfmHmKU4GBW EuF1VhMLF+JNSaysSi3Kjy8qzUktPsQozcGiJM6bHfkvTEggPbEkNTs1tSC1CCbLxMEp1cC4 asa9VccTt1Tz8c6c6au5wa7rror0hgKetet2y2wLPmmluOaY7eGyPKG5FbtkMxoep1QJmyh5 //RQyHw59ehPUZ/z/bLym81CQo4obml/Zjmdt8fifJxYc8bn9R1Zj/Q3H1/858tflsz+DAHl NzFLbkzJkpRN1LWVbTbN4/fSMjeyyBPZfkqJpTgj0VCLuag4EQCO/pccjwIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 12:42:39 -0000 Thanks, Lorenzo! Regards, Christer -----Original Message----- From: straw [mailto:straw-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Miniero Sent: 19 April 2016 15:27 To: straw@ietf.org Subject: Re: [straw] I-D Action: draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt Hi all, as promised, I just uploaded an updated version of the RTCP draft. This rev= ision tries to clarify the text throughout the whole document, and more in = particular in 3.2, where the management of specific RTCP packet types is de= scribed: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt The document also updates some references, lists RFC7656 as a normative one= and now mentions draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-dtls-srtp in the Media Path Securi= ty section. Let me know if this was indeed a right step in addressing the overall clari= ty of the text, or if you believe some parts are still unclear and may bene= fit from further rewriting. As I'm not a native English speaker, pointers o= n specific sections that you feel are too obscure would be very helpful. Thanks, Lorenzo On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:14:14 -0700 internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 > directories. This draft is a work item of the Sip Traversal Required=20 > for Applications to Work of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in > Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) Authors : Lorenzo Miniero > Sergio Garcia Murillo > Victor Pascual > Filename : draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10.txt > Pages : 17 > Date : 2016-04-19 >=20 > Abstract: > SIP Back-to-Back User Agents (B2BUAs) are often envisaged to also=20 > be on the media path, rather than just intercepting signalling. This > means that B2BUAs often implement an RTP/RTCP stack as well,=20 > whether to act as media transcoders or to just passthrough the media > themselves, thus leading to separate multimedia sessions that the > B2BUA correlates and bridges together. If not disciplined, though, > this behaviour can severely impact the communication experience, > especially when statistics and feedback information contained in=20 > RTCP messages get lost because of mismatches in the reported data. >=20 > This document defines the proper behaviour B2BUAs should follow=20 > when also acting on the signalling/media plane in order to preserve=20 > the end-to-end functionality of RTCP. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-10 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at=20 > tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > straw mailing list > straw@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw _______________________________________________ straw mailing list straw@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/straw From nobody Fri Apr 29 02:07:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: straw@ietf.org Delivered-To: straw@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C62112D5B6; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 02:07:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Meeting Session Request Tool\"" To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160429090741.12349.21862.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 02:07:41 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: ben@nostrum.com, victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com, straw-chairs@ietf.org, straw@ietf.org Subject: [straw] straw - Not having a session at IETF 96 X-BeenThere: straw@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Sip Traversal Required for Applications to Work \(STRAW\) working group discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:07:41 -0000 Victor Pascual, a chair of the straw working group, indicated that the straw working group does not plan to hold a session at IETF 96. 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