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suit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CD0120801; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 07:39:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: suit@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: suit@ietf.org Message-ID: <157953475847.1606.10348653783873655867@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 07:39:18 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-information-model-05.txt X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:39:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Software Updates for Internet of Things WG of the IETF. Title : An Information Model for Firmware Updates in IoT Devices Authors : Brendan Moran Hannes Tschofenig Henk Birkholz Filename : draft-ietf-suit-information-model-05.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2020-01-20 Abstract: Vulnerabilities with Internet of Things (IoT) devices have raised the need for a solid and secure firmware update mechanism that is also suitable for constrained devices. Ensuring that devices function and remain secure over their service life requires such an update mechanism to fix vulnerabilities, to update configuration settings, as well as adding new functionality One component of such a firmware update is a concise and machine- processable meta-data document, or manifest, that describes the firmware image(s) and offers appropriate protection. This document describes the information that must be present in the manifest. 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ESMTPSA id 70F9D30046F for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 16:18:51 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Message-Id: <4AA317F5-5D50-4A28-8259-D054BD6D6435@vigilsec.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 16:32:51 -0500 To: suit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: [Suit] A few comments on draft-ietf-suit-manifest-02 X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:32:57 -0000 I have a few comment on draft-ietf-suit-manifest-02: General: The RFC Style Guide says to use American English spelling. = Please change it now to avoid confusion later (e.g., Behaviour --> = Behavior). Section 2: Please add a sentence before all fo the definitions. = Otherwise, the "as shown here" from the RFC 8174 citation is easy to = read incorrectly. Section 2: The last 4 paragraphs are not really about conventions or = terminology at the same level as the rest of the section. They are CBOR = specific, and I wonder if they would bit better toward the end of = Section 4 or the beginning of Section 5 in a subsection of their own. Section 4: The bullets and numbered items in 4.1 end with periods, but = the ones in 4.2 and 4.3 do not. Please pick one style and use it = everywhere. Section 4.2: In the five steps, is there a problem if an implementations = swaps steps 1 and 2? If so, please explain. If not, the document = should say that conforming implementations of this specification are not = required to implement this algorithm, but MUST provide functionality = equivalent to the external behavior resulting from this procedure. That = is, any algorithm may be used by a particular implementation so long as = it produces the correct result. Section 4.2 says: "If verification and running is implemented in = bootloader, then the". Please complete the thought. Section 4.4: I think that "specifies behaviours in a linearised form" = can simply be "specifies linear behavior". Section 4.4: I wonder if "authenticated by the appropriate identity have = access to operate" is the right concept. I think the point is that the = process will reject software that is not authenticated to an identity on = the ACL. Section 5.1: RFC 4108 includes the concept of a "stale version". Please = see Section 1.2.3.2 of RFC 4108. Do we want a capability to prevent = roll-back to a previous version that has a disastrous flaw? Section 7: I find the numbering confusing. the is a top-level "1" = without a "2". Perhaps typical outline numbering would be more clear. Section 7 and 11: We need to come up with a presentation that will keep = the line length under 73 characters. Maybe something like: SUIT_Common =3D { ? suit-dependencies =3D> bstr .cbor [ + SUIT_Dependency ], ? suit-components =3D> bstr .cbor [ + SUIT_Component_Identifier ], ? suit-dependency-components =3D> bstr .cbor [ + SUIT_Component_Reference ], ? suit-common-sequence =3D> bstr .cbor SUIT_Command_Sequence, } Section 12: Please say in the introduction what one-way hash function is = used. Section 13: Please provide the rules for additions to each of the IANA = registries that are identified. 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tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u2C3iUImE8OO for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A0E11200B7 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 10:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BB3300AA0 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:07:29 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id omqRB783SFNT for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-108-51-198-163.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.51.198.163]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 682033004C0 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:07:28 -0500 (EST) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 13:21:28 -0500 References: <157953475847.1606.10348653783873655867@ietfa.amsl.com> To: suit In-Reply-To: <157953475847.1606.10348653783873655867@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-information-model-05.txt X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2020 18:21:37 -0000 I have not seen anyone raise concerns with the language that was added = or changed to address WG Last Call comments. If you have any issues, = please speak now or we will consider this document finished. Russ > On Jan 20, 2020, at 10:39 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Software Updates for Internet of = Things WG of the IETF. >=20 > Title : An Information Model for Firmware Updates in = IoT Devices > Authors : Brendan Moran > Hannes Tschofenig > Henk Birkholz > Filename : draft-ietf-suit-information-model-05.txt > Pages : 42 > Date : 2020-01-20 >=20 > Abstract: > Vulnerabilities with Internet of Things (IoT) devices have raised = the > need for a solid and secure firmware update mechanism that is also > suitable for constrained devices. Ensuring that devices function = and > remain secure over their service life requires such an update > mechanism to fix vulnerabilities, to update configuration settings, > as well as adding new functionality >=20 > One component of such a firmware update is a concise and machine- > processable meta-data document, or manifest, that describes the > firmware image(s) and offers appropriate protection. This document > describes the information that must be present in the manifest. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-suit-information-model/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-suit-information-model-05 > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-suit-information-model-05= >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-suit-information-model-05= >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Suit mailing list > Suit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/suit From nobody Mon Jan 27 07:25:51 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: suit@ietf.org Delivered-To: suit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51B612086F; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:25:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF-Announce" Cc: suit@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.116.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158013874772.26527.781374033227122034@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:25:47 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Suit] Software Updates for Internet of Things (suit) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-02-19 X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 15:25:48 -0000 The Software Updates for Internet of Things (suit) Working Group will hold a virtual interim meeting on 2020-02-19 from 16:00 to 17:00 Europe/Berlin. Agenda: Summary of Hackathon achievements Discussion: What changes in SUIT documents are needed? Information about remote participation: Remote participation information will be obtained at the time of approval https://siot-hackathon.github.io/call-for-participation