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X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 10:06:10 -0000 --_000_AM0PR08MB3716EB9B8E57A9F0CA249057FAE40AM0PR08MB3716eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI: An idea from the RATS guys below... From: Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:05 AM To: rats@ietf.org Subject: Remote Hackathon for IETF#107 ? Hi all, at the RATS virtual interim meeting yesterday the chairs suggested to consi= der organizing a remote hackathon on the weekend before IETF#107 (because several contributors cannot attend the meeting in person). This is an interesting idea and could be a continuation of the hackathon in= Berlin. I think we should give it a try. We have a communication platform with Webex and the hardware is also not an= issue because many of you already have a board (either from previous hacka= thons or from other projects). The biggest challenge is the timezone difference but there is very little w= e can do about it. Some folks will join later and others will leave earlier= . It is what it is. Should we try to allocate March 20th and March 21st as a date for the hacka= thon, create a webex and an Etherpad, and prepare for coding in the area of= RATS, SUIT, and TEEP? We could do two status updates (one on Saturday and the other one on Sunday= ). What do you think? Ciao Hannes IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in = any medium. Thank you. --_000_AM0PR08MB3716EB9B8E57A9F0CA249057FAE40AM0PR08MB3716eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI: An idea from the RATS guys below...<= /p>

 

From: Hannes Tschofenig
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:05 AM
To: rats@ietf.org
Subject: Remote Hackathon for IETF#107 ?

 

Hi all,

 

at the RATS virtual interim meeting yesterday the ch= airs suggested to consider organizing a remote hackathon on the weekend bef= ore IETF#107

(because several contributors cannot attend the meet= ing in person).

 

This is an interesting idea and could be a continuat= ion of the hackathon in Berlin.

I think we should give it a try.

 

We have a communication platform with Webex and the = hardware is also not an issue because many of you already have a board (eit= her from previous hackathons or from other projects).

The biggest challenge is the timezone difference but= there is very little we can do about it. Some folks will join later and ot= hers will leave earlier. It is what it is.

 

Should we try to allocate March 20th and = March 21st as a date for the hackathon, create a webex and an Et= herpad, and prepare for coding in the area of RATS, SUIT, and TEEP?

We could do two status updates (one on Saturday and = the other one on Sunday).

 

What do you think?

 

Ciao

Hannes

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Wed, 4 Mar 2020 10:55:54 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.5\)) From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 10:55:53 +0100 Cc: suit X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 605008553.474583-9033bb5dcc5c96cbab799c452c688da8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Brendan Moran X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Suit] SUIT hackathon @ IETF107 X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 09:56:02 -0000 On 2020-03-04, at 10:25, Brendan Moran wrote: >=20 > running a virtual hackathon Is that something different from further enabling remote participation = to the physical hackathon? (That=E2=80=99s what e.g. T2TRG is planning = to do, for its workshop and for the WISHI hackathon.) 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<158379174023.5503.5719346242522337936@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 15:09:00 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Suit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-suit-manifest-04.txt X-BeenThere: suit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Software Updates for Internet of Things List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2020 22:09:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Software Updates for Internet of Things WG of the IETF. Title : A Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)-based Serialization Format for the Software Updates for Internet of Things (SUIT) Manifest Authors : Brendan Moran Hannes Tschofenig Henk Birkholz Koen Zandberg Filename : draft-ietf-suit-manifest-04.txt Pages : 87 Date : 2020-03-09 Abstract: This specification describes the format of a manifest. A manifest is a bundle of metadata about the firmware for an IoT device, where to find the firmware, the devices to which it applies, and cryptographic information protecting the manifest. Firmware updates and trusted boot both tend to use sequences of common operations, so the manifest encodes those sequences of operations, rather than declaring the metadata. 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--5nBfFjbGnLVSsBYT6eE8F6ulXAQbBbLzm Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B490DF9285E30FAF95F67451" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B490DF9285E30FAF95F67451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Brendan, On 02/03/2020 16.40, Brendan Moran wrote: > Hi Koen, > > I haven=E2=80=99t heard any complaints about harmonising condition hand= ling to > parameter-only, so I will take that as a consensus. No complaints from my side. V4 has this from what I've read in the changelog. > > This seems quite opaque, so I think using integers would be a better > choice. This has the advantage that we could cover more policies that > we haven=E2=80=99t thought of yet without change to the encoding. I agree with you on this. Using integers here should come for free and it gives users the option to use (also here) negative numbers for their custom policies, whatever they might be. > > I see what you mean about trading one inconsistency for another. I=E2=80= =99m > not sure if it=E2=80=99s a blocker for this approach or not. If we deci= de to > separate reporting policy from SUIT, then there are a few approaches > we could use to prune the NULLs, but then I=E2=80=99m not sure how to t= ie RATS > and SUIT together. I don't have a better solution at the moment than what you propose here. Is the full per command granularity required from the RATS side? It is not sufficient to set a global policy per manifest? And I guess it is too much overhead to set the policy as a SUIT parameter every time the policy requires modification during a manifest sequence. As I mentioned before, I don't consider this a strong concern from my side and definitely something that can be solved with sufficient clarification in the spec. From an implementation point of view, ignoring the nill vs ignoring the integer is trivial. > > Effectively my idea is to enable reporting of any measurements that > are done (conditions). That=E2=80=99s almost enough, however there=E2=80= =99s one point > that is missing from this: Run should be measurable since an argument > could be passed to Run=E2=80=94c.f. Linux kernel command line, or argc/= argv to > main(). I=E2=80=99ve already floated the idea of making Run imply an im= age > condition. This would justify the reporting of a measurement for Run. > I could see an argument for making the same requirement for Fetch and > Copy, since they should probably be followed immediately by an image > condition anyway. All parameters are either invariant or set based on > conditions, so with a copy of the manifest, you can determine what > they were. Looking at the current spec (ietf-v4), I think it is also possible to move the argument for the fetch and the run directive to a separate parameter. This way the measurement policy can be included as the 'argument' to the directive. Does this make sense assuming this is the way measurement settings are included via arguments. > What would you think of: > > 1. All conditions take a measurement policy argument. > 2. Run implies an image pre-condition before the activation > 3. Fetch implies an image post-condition > 4. Copy implies an image post-condition > 5. Run, Fetch, Copy take a measurement policy argument. > Is it the case that we're describing the same idea here? Is this image pre-condition and post-condition a solution to include a 'measurement' in these directives? Cheers, Koen --------------B490DF9285E30FAF95F67451 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Brendan,

On 02/03/2020 16.40, Brendan Moran wrote:
Hi Koen,

I haven=E2=80=99t heard any complaints about harmon= ising condition handling to parameter-only, so I will take that as a consensus.
No complaints from my side. V4 has this from what I've read in the changelog.
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This seems quite opaque, so I think using integers would be a better choice. This has the advantage that we could cover more policies that we haven=E2=80=99t thought of yet without ch= ange to the encoding.
I agree with you on this. Using integers here should come for free and it gives users the option to use (also here) negative numbers for their custom policies, whatever they might be.

I see what you mean about trading one inconsistency for another. I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s a blocker for thi= s approach or not. If we decide to separate reporting policy from SUIT, then there are a few approaches we could use to prune the NULLs, but then I=E2=80=99m not sure how to tie RATS and SUIT together= =2E

I don't have a better solution at the moment than what you propose here. Is the full per command granularity required from the RATS side? It is not sufficient to set a global policy per manifest? And I guess it is too much overhead to set the policy as a SUIT parameter every time the policy requires modification during a manifest sequence.

As I mentioned before, I don't consider this a strong concern from my side and definitely something that can be solved with sufficient clarification in the spec. From an implementation point of view, ignoring the nill vs ignoring the integer is trivial.


Effectively my idea is to enable reporting of any measurements that are done (conditions). That=E2=80=99s almost = enough, however there=E2=80=99s one point that is missing from this: Ru= n should be measurable since an argument could be passed to Run=E2=80=94c.f. Linux kernel command line, or argc/argv to mai= n(). I=E2=80=99ve already floated the idea of making Run imply an im= age condition. This would justify the reporting of a measurement for Run. I could see an argument for making the same requirement for Fetch and Copy, since they should probably be followed immediately by an image condition anyway. All parameters are either invariant or set based on conditions, so with a copy of the manifest, you can determine what they were.<= /div>
Looking at the current spec (ietf-v4), I think it is also possible to move the argument for the fetch and the run directive to a separate parameter. This way the measurement policy can be included as the 'argument' to the directive. Does this make sense assuming this is the way measurement settings are included via arguments.
What would you think of:
  1. All conditions take a measurement policy argument.
  2. Run implies an image pre-condition before the activation
  3. Fetch implies an image post-condition
  4. Copy implies an image post-condition
  5. Run, Fetch, Copy take a measurement policy argument.

Is it the case that we're describing the same idea here? Is this image pre-condition and post-condition a solution to include a 'measurement' in these directives?

Cheers,

Koen

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