From nobody Tue Jun 2 10:21:32 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1768A1B2CF5 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:21:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.57 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.77] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gwVPDNYvfRzk for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.46]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6DE91B2C77 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.203]) by atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t52HLP3f014983 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:21:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 23371 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jun 2015 17:21:25 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 204.235.115.163 X-Authenticated-UID: lee@asgard.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.71.36.75?) (lee@asgard.org@204.235.115.163) by 0 with ESMTPA; 2 Jun 2015 17:21:24 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.0.150423 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:21:22 -0400 From: Lee Howard To: JF Tremblay , GangChen Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [sunset4] WG Adoption call for draft-chen-sunset4-nat64-port-allocation References: <66189322-D15E-4D84-9844-493C00D8068A@viagenie.ca> <096F8AFE-9A16-4986-8050-85047DD87C17@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <096F8AFE-9A16-4986-8050-85047DD87C17@viagenie.ca> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: "sunset4@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [sunset4] WG Adoption call for draft-chen-sunset4-nat64-port-allocation X-BeenThere: sunset4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: sunset4 working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:21:28 -0000 On 5/4/15, 10:29 AM, "JF Tremblay" wrote: >Inline.=20 > >> On May 3, 2015, at 9:36 AM, GangChen wrote: >>=20 >> Thank you for the comments. I'd seen it's great useful to improve the >> draft quality. >> Please see my reply inline. >>=20 >> 2015-05-02 4:36 GMT+08:00, JF Tremblay >>: >>=20 >>> 2.4.1 "The storage of log information may pose a challenge to >>>operators, >>> since it requires additional resources and data inspection processes to >>> identify users." >>> The data inspection remark here does not make sense. The NAT might >>>correlate >>> source addresses to user information if it has it available, but it >>>won=B9t >>> inspect. The NAT does not store either. >>=20 >> the issue is a NAT may don't know what source address should be >>correlated. >> Therefore, the NAT have to store entire information preparing the >>searching. >> For your information, the NAT should store at least three-months log >> in our networks. > >In my opinion:=20 >- NATs do not / should not store logs. This is done by an external server >(syslog or other). True; the operators of NATs store logs. >- NATs do not correlate source addresses to users, unless it already has >that information available. This can be done offline by a server with >much more ressources. Also true. As guidance to the operator of a NAT, though, this is useful guidance. 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Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s6IeJVP2kjdr7jGPINWVagxPKQfoqNFGn" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [sunset4] Meeting agenda items X-BeenThere: sunset4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: sunset4 working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:43:16 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --s6IeJVP2kjdr7jGPINWVagxPKQfoqNFGn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The schedule has been made to fit, so if you do cancel it's likely that someone can figure out something to do with the slot, but it has subsided below crisis level. On 6/18/15 12:31 PM, George, Wes wrote: > Hello -=20 >=20 > IESG has informed us that the scheduling for this IETF is unusually > difficult on account of the number of sessions requested being > significantly higher than the total number of sessions available. 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I have just posted a = preliminary agenda, for working group comment, at = https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-v6ops. That agenda basically breaks two 2-hour slots into four one-hour slots. = One such slot will be used by each working group to discuss documents = currently on the table, which are a total of five documents - two in = sunset4 and three in v6ops. We would like to invite two or three = European ISPs to discuss their IPv6 deployments (which we have not lined = up - any volunteers?), and we would like to spend an hour on charter = discussions. At this point, neither v6ops nor sunset4 have new drafts. I am expecting = a respin of draft-ietf-v6ops-siit-dc and draft-ietf-v6ops-siit-dc-2xlat, = which we should finalize at this meeting, and I am expecting a respin of = draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world responding to the "next steps" = thread of May 6-7. If new drafts come in for v6ops, we will likely = either find a way for a different working group to look at them (one = draft I have heard proposed probably belongs in 6man), discuss them if = we have time, or discuss on-list for the present. --Apple-Mail=_72FD86AA-85FD-49B2-8A48-DBB3B4E2E8B1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIVAwUBVYv8b0ayAOS/EQ8MAQIkVQ/6A3Dxvle9tI/qN/s/o8P8DZZ0ylT6MpLu neF2hNxDbItVvnzghXJp8LFVWfK6mv6HyrMxKJ+S95+jc3RtXWkfMFEFknzKjD+7 iZ45ZFQjGMuzwO/sVONvEK9vIuvP7eYyYFgk+4RpGXegxg2pUlDorUSzqbULrUof Y23a1m5OUtHo8lwRmdGF/hyui/Hn8REYXDzzKYZv1JaWYrppzyQHQt801RusfECP vNw6krKcD8TQnrtrQ1NUGkQGrkWwVCtoSoQ+1KyxP8hmRp6RuO1sb8Tcemf8vbRW 3DPb2EpKSbYqnaS0+jC+iH1op51wyma+Wq3FXbZv5DOrY6lJiLRFt+9ApWyrA67S iWJtvgC8aRO2gtYBOH0GYGDDwE+ZRe/SpYSkx9JxwqepZQ29tXmXu6UDJZRSlWuL 8DC6Ra0XtWmyh007q3t86CR891tg8LHyY+yhx/zAmyX22gTt4rFyoPgRNHGF1K0C vey8I0VBTg31WC0hGq1r9swp2prO6M4TbV6NTn44sQhIdhT3o8fVKCixYijqDXU3 l8m3BHrMBEUkOIeWbzI5Yf7ZEUjKxgj9qD7MW7w+D7xQGtp20xDc5L1SXsgP4fRY YEz7EUkAXTFy9VuY2fDw7X0f/fwuA+U3GDmyT4bhF3XZT7LE1tLM8oFX4Hwulaq+ C4qNG53Yw4w= =pZsw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_72FD86AA-85FD-49B2-8A48-DBB3B4E2E8B1-- From nobody Fri Jun 26 18:08:47 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: sunset4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DD31A6F3B; 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Fri, 26 Jun 2015 20:08:41 -0500 From: "Fred Baker (fred)" To: v6ops list , "sunset4@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: v6ops - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 93 Thread-Index: AQHQsHXOuAEYxu7W0UO//22b5k6Pmg== Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:08:41 +0000 Message-ID: <911E3AC3-6955-4554-8249-228F23F8675F@cisco.com> References: <20150626235510.5508.8278.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.19.64.123] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2500BB4E-64A3-46DF-8DFC-47B37A56580E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [sunset4] Fwd: v6ops - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: sunset4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: sunset4 working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:08:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2500BB4E-64A3-46DF-8DFC-47B37A56580E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FYI - timing for the joint meeting between v6ops and sunset4. > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" > Subject: v6ops - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 93 > Date: June 26, 2015 at 4:55:10 PM PDT > To: > Cc: , , > > Dear Fred Baker, > > The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. > Below is the scheduled session information followed by > the original request. > > v6ops Session 1 (2:00:00) > Friday, Morning Session I 0900-1130 > Room Name: Grand Hilton Ballroom size: 300 > --------------------------------------------- > v6ops Session 2 (2:00:00) > Tuesday, Afternoon Session I 1300-1500 > Room Name: Congress Hall II size: 400 > --------------------------------------------- > > > Special Note: Joint Session with SUNSET4 > > > Request Information: > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Working Group Name: IPv6 Operations > Area Name: Operations and Management Area > Session Requester: Fred Baker > > Number of Sessions: 2 > Length of Session(s): 2 Hours, 2 Hours > Number of Attendees: 150 > Conflicts to Avoid: > First Priority: opsec softwire homenet pcp 6man aqm dclcrg sunset4 nvo3 > Second Priority: tsvwg tsvarea intarea mif lmap > Third Priority: ospf rtgwg isis opsawg > > > Special Requests: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > --Apple-Mail=_2500BB4E-64A3-46DF-8DFC-47B37A56580E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; 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