On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:22 AM, King,= Daniel <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:

Hi Authors of draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-mod= el-01.

Time to close the poll. We have good support, with no objections.

Would the authors please submit a new (content unchanged from 01) version o= f the I-D as "draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00" when = the submissions tool opens next week.

We can then look at discussing the comments from Linda.

BR, Dan & Nevil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Dunbar [mailto:linda= .dunbar@huawei.com]
Sent: 21 June 2016 14:15
To: King, Daniel <d.king@lanca= ster.ac.uk>; SUPA list <supa@iet= f.org>
Cc: Nevil Brownlee <n.brown= lee@auckland.ac.nz>
Subject: RE: [Supa] Poll for draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-0= 1 (Was RE: Adoption polls for SUPA drafts)

I did a full analysis of the data models described in the draft. I think th= ey are in very good shape. Supporting it to become a WG draft.

It is a very big document. I personally find it so much easier to review al= l the data model components by converting it to UML format. In case you are= a graphic person like me, attached is the UML format of the data models de= scribed in the document to make it easier to review.

Is it possible to have the UML attached in the SUPA page?

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of King, Daniel
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 11:58 PM
To: SUPA list
Cc: Nevil Brownlee
Subject: [Supa] Poll for draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-01 (W= as RE: Adoption polls for SUPA drafts)

Thanks Dan.

All, please note Nevil's new adoption poll in his earlier email for dra= ft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-01. The working group really need= s your feedback for or against this document:

Generic Policy Data Model for Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA)<= br> https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-01

BR, Dan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: 15 June 2016 11:22
To: Nevil Brownlee <n.brown= lee@auckland.ac.nz>; SUPA list <= supa@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Supa] Adoption polls for SUPA drafts

I support the adoption of both documents as WG documents. I believe that bo= th are a good start (and more than that) for the execution of the respectiv= e=C2=A0 chartered items.

Regards,

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounc= es@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nevil Brownlee
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:15 AM
> To: SUPA list
> Subject: [Supa] Adoption polls for SUPA drafts
>
>
> Hi all:
>
> We already have a poll for adoption of
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05
> At our Buenos Aires meeting there was strong support for this, but so<= br> > far the list has been quiet.=C2=A0 Do please send a support email for = it
> (with or without your comments).
>
> Again, in Buenos Aires there was string support for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-01
> This email begins it's WG adoption poll - again, please send a sup= port
> email for it to the SUPA list!
>
> Cheers, Nevil
>

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John

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:06:42 -0000 Dear all, wgstatus -s SUPA ... # Document Status Since 2016-04-08 00:00:00 ## New WG-Docs draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-info-model-00 [u'I-D Exists', u'WG Document'] ## Updated IDs draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-01 [u'I-D Exists', u'Candidate for WG Adoption:', u'Informational'] draft-bi-supa-problem-statement-01 [u'I-D Exists'] draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-01 [u'I-D Exists'] ## Existing IDs draft-vadrevu-supa-applicability-06 [u'I-D Exists'] draft-klyus-supa-value-proposition-00 [u'I-D Exists'] draft-bw-supa-architecture-00 [u'I-D Exists'] Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda/supa/ Regards, Benoit From nobody Mon Jul 18 10:22:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF2112D1C1 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:22:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q75QX7lDphnA for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mh-1-0.lancs.ac.uk (mh-1-0.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.65.130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8CB12D0F8 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex-0-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.47] helo=EX-0-HT0.lancs.local) by mh-1-0.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1bPCEk-0005LO-A7 for supa@ietf.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:21:46 +0100 Received: from EX-1-MB0.lancs.local ([fe80::f083:6530:dfd5:ebc7]) by EX-0-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::7d10:114a:53b0:7f2f%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:21:46 +0100 From: "King, Daniel" To: SUPA list Thread-Topic: Latest Agenda for Berlin - Minute Taker and Jabber Scribe Thread-Index: AdHhF6dw5ppFcpQcRt+pIeOZLy3DWA== Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:21:45 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8C42D604@EX-1-MB0.lancs.local> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [195.122.150.129] x-iss-local-domain: 1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8C42D604EX1MB0lancsloca_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Supa] Latest Agenda for Berlin - Minute Taker and Jabber Scribe X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." 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Hi All,

Please find below the latest SUPA agenda for Berlin:=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/96/agenda/supa/<= /o:p>

Would the presenters please send Nevil and myself yo= ur slides no later than Wednesday (20 July) night.

We also request volunteers for the role of minute ta= ker and jabber scribe for our session on Thursday. Your support would be gr= eatly appreciated.

BR, Dan & Nevil.

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Hi folks,

After my presentation on 00 version of this PS draft at SUPA WG mee= ting at IETF 95, the 01 and 02 were revised according to some comments.&nb= sp;

The related work section was removed, the terminology= section was added, and we have more contributors.

Please feel free to comment it.

Well stat= ed clarifications!

&n= bsp;

Fred

Fro= m: John Strassner [mailto:strazpdj@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, = July 19, 2016 10:38 AM
To: supa@ietf.org
Cc: Liushuchen= g (Will)
Subject: [Supa] BRIEF comments on draft-liu-supa-policy-= based-management-framework-01

Hi Will,

here are some brief comments on the above draft for your considerati= on:

Technical Changes

Page 8:

&nbs= p; (1) policy relies on and is able to adjust service

<= /div>

<jcs> policy manages and can adjust se= rvice behavior as necessary </jcs>

(2) policy relies on network ability prov= ided by resource and is
able to adjust resource<= /p>

<jcs> policy manages and can adjus= t resource behavior as necessary </jcs>

= ; (3) resource relies on network ability and is able to reserve and consume/occupy resource

<jcs> resource hosts service; changing resources may c= hange service behavior as necessary </jcs>

<= div>

Page 10

<= /p>

(1)=3D>(2)=3D>(3)=3D>(4)=3D>= (3')=3D>(2')=3D>(1')

Where, (1)= =3DGPIM; (2)=3DEPRIM; (3)=3DYANG data models; (4)=3D
Implem= entation; (3')=3D update of YANG data models; (2')=3Dupdate of
&nb= sp; EPRIM; (1') =3D update of GPIM

   The= YANG module derived from the GPIM contains concepts and
   te= rminology for the common operation and administration of policy-
&= nbsp; based systems, as well as an extensible structure for policy rules   of different paradigms. The YANG module derived from the EPRI= M
   extends the generic nature of the GPIM to represent polic= ies using
   an event-condition-action structure.

<jcs>

I su= ggest the following additional text:

The above sequence allows for the addition of new, as = well as editing

= of existing, model elements in the GPIM and EPRIM. In practice, the

implementation sequence= may be much simpler. Specifically, it is

unlikely that the GPIM will need to be changed. I= n addition, changes

&nb= sp; to the EPRIM will likely be focused on fine-tuning the behavior

offered by a specific s= et of model elements.

</jcs>

NITS!<= o:p>

Page 3

Please update [SUPA-info-model] to point to draft-i= etf-supa-generic-policy-info-model-01

Should we update [] to point to draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-= 14

Pages 3-4

I offer to redraw the figure, there are lines that are past the cha= racter limit

re= gards,

John

--__1468983871358133345abhmp0013.oracle.com-- From nobody Wed Jul 20 02:37:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A6712D158 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:37:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6rxLis4Hhd2D for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 199A4128E18 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067091C05AE for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:37:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=1.tigertech; t=1469007431; bh=RCR6OXGOaLg0Ffhfw/rB0gvb9Z7PRmHRHjgXTJ/73n4=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=FSl1aR10/+3y6ciBY6oU7nC4x+eRxqIUdlBieXEzb+VnOeDvVIWAS5ROAaoVnPKI7 BLzZRB+uTPgZJZTrOS9t7D+tqbdvPbpezmCKy2OQvV6vcSSl8wbIhKWcS0yVAIsXH8 ZX2pZuNQAQmpGT07CVFDi6CIVRahPFQDnDsqKhkU= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from surfer-172-29-110-137-hotspot.internet-for-guests.com (unknown [62.214.2.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E71F1C02FB for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:37:10 -0700 (PDT) To: SUPA list References: <20160718223641.18097.82019.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Joel Halpern Message-ID: <42f522a0-8196-32cc-070e-e211698b71f7@joelhalpern.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:37:03 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160718223641.18097.82019.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Supa] I-D Action: draft-bi-supa-problem-statement-02.txt X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:37:15 -0000 This draft does a good job laying out our challenges and objectives in the SUPA work. I think that this should be a working group document both because it is useful and because adopting it will confirm that it reflects our WG agreement on the work, rather than just the authors view (with which I agree). Yours, Joel On 7/18/16 6:36 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : Problem Statement for Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA) > Authors : Jun Bi > Georgios Karagiannis > John Strassner > Dan Romascanu > Maxim Klyus > Qiong Sun > Luis M. Contreras > Filename : draft-bi-supa-problem-statement-02.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2016-07-18 > > Abstract: > Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA) defines a set of rules > that define how services are designed, delivered, and operated > within an operator's environment independent of any one particular > service or networking device. SUPA expresses policy rules using a > generic policy information model, which serves as a unifying > influence to enable different data model implementations to be > simultaneously developed. > From nobody Wed Jul 20 03:40:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietf.org Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D29E12D5C8; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.28.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160720104004.22615.62487.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 03:40:04 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: supa@ietf.org Subject: [Supa] I-D Action: draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00.txt X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:40:05 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions of the IETF. Title : Generic Policy Data Model for Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA) Authors : Joel Halpern John Strassner Filename : draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00.txt Pages : 48 Date : 2016-07-20 Abstract: This document defines two YANG policy data models. The first is a generic policy model that is meant to be extended on an application- specific basis. The second is an exemplary extension of the first generic policy model, and defines rules as event-condition-action policies. Both models are independent of the level of abstraction of the content and meaning of a policy. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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From: John Strassner Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:04:08 +0200 Message-ID: To: "Liushucheng (Will)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114032a24e285b053810d6ea Archived-At: Cc: "supa@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Supa] BRIEF comments on draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-01 X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 13:04:58 -0000 --001a114032a24e285b053810d6ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Will, I'm responding inline, please see .. below (1) policy relies on and is able to adjust service policy manages and can adjust service behavior as necessary *1)* *policy need the parameters provided by service/resource, or maybe we can use other way to express the concept of =E2=80=9Crelies on=E2=80=9D(= policy need to know there is service created/resource exists before it manages service/resource?)* Disagree. A Policy doesn't "need to know" that a service is created, because it is specifying what the end state should be. Put another way, the policy should be valid regardless of whether the service is currently instantiated or not. If the service is not instantiated, then the policy should not be run (or alternatively, the policy should give a benign error (service does not exist) and not crash (that would be rude). If the service is instantiated, then the policy runs. In either case, the policy doesn't need to know if the service or resource is there to perform its function, right? *2)* *policy is service-crossing/resource-crossing, in other words, one policy can manage multiple services/resources (1:N relationship) * Sure, but what needs to be changed? This is just an issue of the multiplicity of the PolicyRule? Or am I missing something? *3)* *service is resource-crossing, in other words, one service can use multiple resources (1:M relationship) * Sure, but what needs to be changed? This is just an issue of the multiplicity of the PolicyRule? Or am I missing something? best regards, John On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Liushucheng (Will) wrote: > Dear John, > > > > Many thx for your review and helpful comments. Inline. > > > > > > *From:* John Strassner [mailto:strazpdj@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:38 PM > *To:* supa@ietf.org > *Cc:* Liushucheng (Will) > *Subject:* BRIEF comments on > draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-01 > > > > Hi Will, > > > > here are some brief comments on the above draft for your consideration: > > > > Technical Changes > > Page 8: > > (1) policy relies on and is able to adjust service > > policy manages and can adjust service behavior as necessary > > > (2) policy relies on network ability provided by resource and is > able to adjust resource > > policy manages and can adjust resource behavior as necessary > > > > (3) resource relies on network ability and is able to reserve and > consume/occupy resource > > resource hosts service; changing resources may change > service behavior as necessary > > *[Will] Thanks for help. I understand what you mean here and will use you= r > sentences in next version. However, there are still some concepts might > need to express:* > > *1) **policy need the parameters provided by service/resource, or > maybe we can use other way to express the concept of =E2=80=9Crelies on= =E2=80=9D(policy > need to know there is service created/resource exists before it manages > service/resource?)* > > *2) **policy is service-crossing/resource-crossing, in other words, > one policy can manage multiple services/resources (1:N relationship) * > > *3) **service is resource-crossing, in other words, one service can > use multiple resources (1:M relationship) * > > > > *Maybe some of they are not necessary to be fully written here. If some > should, would you please help to add some words into your sentences? * > > > > Page 10 > > > > (1)=3D>(2)=3D>(3)=3D>(4)=3D>(3')=3D>(2')=3D>(1') > > > > Where, (1)=3DGPIM; (2)=3DEPRIM; (3)=3DYANG data models; (4)=3D > Implementation; (3')=3D update of YANG data models; (2')=3Dupdate of > EPRIM; (1') =3D update of GPIM > > > > The YANG module derived from the GPIM contains concepts and > terminology for the common operation and administration of policy- > based systems, as well as an extensible structure for policy rules > of different paradigms. The YANG module derived from the EPRIM > extends the generic nature of the GPIM to represent policies using > an event-condition-action structure. > > > > > > I suggest the following additional text: > > The above sequence allows for the addition of new, as well as editing > > of existing, model elements in the GPIM and EPRIM. In practice, the > > implementation sequence may be much simpler. Specifically, it is > > unlikely that the GPIM will need to be changed. In addition, changes > > to the EPRIM will likely be focused on fine-tuning the behavior > > offered by a specific set of model elements. > > > > *[Will] Agree, will add.* > > > > NITS! > > Page 3 > > Please update [SUPA-info-model] to point to > draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-info-model-01 > > Should we update [] to point to draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-14 > > *[Will] Yes, will update.* > > > > Pages 3-4 > > I offer to redraw the figure, there are lines that are past the character > limit > > *[Will] Great! Many thanks!* > > > > Cheers, > > Will (Shucheng LIU) > --=20 regards, John --001a114032a24e285b053810d6ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Will,

I'm responding = inline, please see <jcs2>..</jcs2> below

=C2=A0=C2=A0 (1) policy reli= es on and is able to adjust service

<jcs> policy manages and can adju= st service=C2=A0behavior as necessary </jcs>

1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 policy need the parameters provided by service/resource, or maybe we ca= n use other way to express the concept of =E2=80=9Crelies on=E2=80=9D(polic= y need to know there is service created/resource exists before it manages s= ervice/resource?)

<jcs2>

Disagree. A Policy doesn't "need to k= now" that a service is created, because it is specifying what the end = state should be. Put another way, the policy should be valid regardless of = whether the service is currently instantiated or not. If the service is not= instantiated, then the policy should not be run (or alternatively, the pol= icy should give a benign error (service does not exist) and not crash (that= would be rude). If the service is instantiated, then the policy runs. In e= ither case, the policy doesn't need to know if the service or resource = is there to perform its function, right?

</jcs2>

2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 policy is s= ervice-crossing/resource-crossing, in other words, one policy can manage mu= ltiple services/resources (1:N relationship) <= /div>

<jcs2>

Sure, but what needs to be changed? T= his is just an issue of the multiplicity of the PolicyRule? Or am I missing= something?

</jcs2>

3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 service is resource-crossing, in oth= er words, one service can use multiple resources (1:M relationship) =

<jcs2>

Sure, but= what needs to be changed? This is just an issue of the multiplicity of the= PolicyRule? Or am I missing something?

</jcs2>

best rega= rds,

John

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Liushucheng = (Will) <liushucheng@huawei.com> wrote:

Dear John,=

=C2= =A0

Many thx f= or your review and helpful comments. Inline.

=C2= =A0

=C2= =A0

From: John Strassner [mailto:strazpdj@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:38 PM
To: supa@ietf.org=
Cc: Liushucheng (Will)
Subject: BRIEF comments on draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-fr= amework-01

=C2=A0

Hi Will,

=C2=A0

here are some brief comments on= the above draft for your consideration:

=C2=A0

Technical Changes=

Page 8:

=C2=A0=C2=A0 (1) policy relies = on and is able to adjust service

<jcs> policy manages and = can adjust service=C2=A0behavior as necessary </jcs>

=C2=A0=C2=A0 (2) policy relies on network ability provided by resource and = is
=C2=A0=C2=A0 able to adjust resource

<jcs> policy manages and = can adjust resource behavior as necessary </jcs>=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 (3) resource relie= s on network ability and is able to reserve and
=C2=A0=C2=A0 consume/occupy resource

<jcs> resource hosts serv= ice; changing resources may change service=C2=A0behavior as necessary </= jcs>

[Wil= l] Thanks for help. I understand what you mean here and will use your sente= nces in next version. However, there are still some concepts might need to express:

1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 policy need the parameters provided by service/resource, or maybe = we can use other way to express the concept of =E2=80=9Crelies on=E2=80=9D(policy need to know there is service created/resource exists b= efore it manages service/resource?)

2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 policy is service-crossing/resource-crossing, in other words, one = policy can manage multiple services/resources (1:N relationship)

3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 service is resource-crossing, in other words, one service can use = multiple resources (1:M relationship)

=C2=A0

Mayb= e some of they are not necessary to be fully written here. If some should, = would you please help to add some words into your sentences?

=C2=A0

Page 10

=C2=A0

(1)=3D>(2)=3D>(3)=3D>(= 4)=3D>(3')=3D>(2')=3D>(1')

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 Where, (1)=3DGPIM;= (2)=3DEPRIM; (3)=3DYANG data models; (4)=3D
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Implementation; (3')=3D update of YANG data models; (2'= ;)=3Dupdate of
=C2=A0=C2=A0 EPRIM; (1') =3D update of GPIM

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 The YANG module de= rived from the GPIM contains concepts and
=C2=A0=C2=A0 terminology for the common operation and administration of pol= icy-
=C2=A0=C2=A0 based systems, as well as an extensible structure for policy r= ules
=C2=A0=C2=A0 of different paradigms. The YANG module derived from the EPRIM=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 extends the generic nature of the GPIM to represent policies u= sing
=C2=A0=C2=A0 an event-condition-action structure.

=C2=A0

<jcs>

I suggest the following additio= nal text:

=C2=A0=C2=A0 The above sequence= allows for the addition of new, as well as editing

=C2=A0=C2=A0 of existing, model= elements in the GPIM and EPRIM. In practice, the

=C2=A0=C2=A0 implementation seq= uence may be much simpler. Specifically, it is

=C2=A0=C2=A0 unlikely that the = GPIM will need to be changed. In addition, changes

=C2=A0=C2=A0 to the EPRIM will = likely be focused on fine-tuning the behavior

=C2=A0=C2=A0 offered by a speci= fic set of model elements.

= </jcs>

[Will] Agree, will add.

=C2=A0

NITS!

Page 3

Please update [SUPA-info-model]= to point to draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-info-model-01

Should we update []=C2=A0to poi= nt to draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-14

[Wil= l] Yes, will update.=C2=A0

Pages 3-4<= /p>

I offer to redraw the figure, t= here are lines that are past the character limit

[Will] Great! Many thanks!=

=C2=A0<= /span>

Cheers,

Will (Shucheng LIU)<= u>

regards,

John

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(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DD325F57EB98451AE40EF7E9" Archived-At: Subject: [Supa] draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-01.txt feedback X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 17:17:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DD325F57EB98451AE40EF7E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, Reviewing the abstract Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA) defines a set of rules that define how services are designed, delivered, and operated within an operator's environment independent of any one particular service or networking device. This document describes the SUPA basic architecture, its elements and interfaces. This document is not about "how services are designed, delivered, and operated", but about policies, policies that are could be applied to device, technology, and services related Quote from the charter: Practically, SUPA defines base YANG data models to encode policy, which will point to device-, technology-, and service-specific YANG models developed in other working groups. I hope that this only an issue with the abstract, and not the draft content (I have to admit that I haven't read the draft). If not, it should be corrected before the WG document adoption IMO. Regards, Benoit --------------DD325F57EB98451AE40EF7E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all,

Reviewing the abstract

   Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA) defines a set of rules
   that define how services are designed, delivered, and operated
   within an operator's environment independent of any one particular
   service or networking device. This document describes the SUPA basic
   architecture, its elements and interfaces.

This document is not about "how services are designed, delivered, and operated", but about policies, policies that are could be applied to device, technology, and services related
Quote from the charter:

Practically, SUPA defines base YANG data models to encode policy, which will point to device-, technology-, and service-specific YANG models developed in other working groups.

I hope that this only an issue with the abstract, and not the draft content (I have to admit that I haven't read the draft).
If not, it should be corrected before the WG document adoption IMO.

Regards, Benoit

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:30:11 -0000 The SUPA WG has placed draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Nevil Brownlee) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework/ Comment: Call issued after SUPA session at IETF 96, Berlin. From nobody Thu Jul 21 16:09:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietf.org Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AC912D603; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:09:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.29.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160721230955.31722.97183.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 16:09:55 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: supa@ietf.org Subject: [Supa] I-D Action: draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-02.txt X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 23:09:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions of the IETF. Title : SUPA policy-based management framework Authors : Will(Shucheng) Liu John Strassner Georgios Karagiannis Maxim Klyus Jun Bi Chongfeng Xie Filename : draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2016-07-21 Abstract: Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA) defines base YANG data models to encode policy, which will point to device-, technology-, and service-specific YANG models developed in other working groups. Policy rules within an operator's environment can be used to express high-level, possibly network-wide policies to a network management function (within a controller, an orchestrator, or a network element). The network management function can then control the configuration and/or monitoring of network elements and services. This document describes the SUPA basic framework, its elements and interfaces. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Dear Benoit,

Please note that, during supa-problem-statement presentati= on at IETF 96 SUPA WG meeting, we state that supa-value-proposition d= ocument was replaced by supa-problem-statement draft.

Thank you very much!<= /div>=0A

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Be= st Regards,

Jun Bi

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From: Benoit Claise
Date: 2016-07-14 01:06
To: supa@ietf.org
Subject: [Supa] In preparation of our SUPA meeting in= Berlin
Dear all,
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=0A ------=_001_NextPart281060143451_=------ From nobody Thu Jul 28 01:15:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F9B126579 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:15:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BtxVaxPcKgNT for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A68212B013 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CTI56235; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:15:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA417-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.34) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.130) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:15:42 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA509-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.215]) by SZXEMA417-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:15:37 +0800 From: "Liushucheng (Will)" To: "'John Strassner'" , Joel Halpern Direct Thread-Topic: [Supa] I-D Action: draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00.txt Thread-Index: AQHR4nMt9/v07SaKDUOCuUc3ALBFtaAqchPg Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:15:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160720104004.22615.62487.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160720104004.22615.62487.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.78.84] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090206.5799BF30.0058, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.2.215, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: c4ba38a28594f389600798ca4b0337eb Archived-At: Cc: "supa@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Supa] I-D Action: draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00.txt X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:15:50 -0000 Hi authors, Thanks for your efforts. I'm starting to review your new draft. Quick comme= nts are: 1. Most of the parts are easy to understand. However, some examples of how = to use certain parts might be added, e.g., decorated-container, concrete-m= etadata-container, etc.=20 2. You may consider to put the Pyang output tree into your draft, so that p= eople without pyang tool could easily get the relationship among containers= . Pyang Output module: ietf-supa-policydatamodel +--rw supa-encoding-clause-container | +--rw supa-encoding-clause-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-object-ID-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-object-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-part instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-policy-clause-exec-status? enumeration | +--rw supa-has-policy-clause-part* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-encoded-clause-content string | +--rw supa-encoded-clause-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-encoded-clause-language enumeration | +--rw supa-encoded-clause-response? boolean +--rw supa-policy-variable-container | +--rw supa-policy-variable-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-object-ID-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-object-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-part instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-decorator-constraints* string | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint-encoding? policy-constrain= t-language-list | +--rw supa-policy-term-is-negated? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-variable-name? string +--rw supa-policy-operator-container | +--rw supa-policy-operator-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-object-ID-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-object-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-part instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-decorator-constraints* string | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint-encoding? policy-constrain= t-language-list | +--rw supa-policy-term-is-negated? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-value-op-type enumeration +--rw supa-policy-value-container | +--rw supa-policy-value-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-object-ID-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-object-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-part instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-decorator-constraints* string | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint-encoding? policy-constrain= t-language-list | +--rw supa-policy-term-is-negated? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-value-content* string | +--rw supa-policy-value-encoding? policy-data-type= -encoding-list +--rw supa-policy-generic-decorated-container | +--rw supa-encoding-clause-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-object-ID-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-object-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-part instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-decorator-constraints* string | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint-encoding? policy-constrain= t-language-list | +--rw supa-policy-generic-decorated-content* string | +--rw supa-policy-generic-decorated-encoding? policy-data-type= -encoding-list +--rw supa-policy-collection-container | +--rw supa-policy-collection-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-object-ID-encoding policy-data-type= -id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-object-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-part instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-has-policy-component-decorator-agg* instance-identif= ier | +--rw supa-decorator-constraints* string | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint-encoding? policy-constrain= t-language-list | +--rw supa-policy-collection-content* string | +--rw supa-policy-collection-encoding enumeration | +--rw supa-policy-collection-function? enumeration | +--rw supa-policy-collection-is-ordered? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-collection-type enumeration +--rw supa-policy-concrete-metadata-container | +--rw supa-policy-concrete-metadata-list* [supa-policy-metadata-id] | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-id string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-id-encoding policy-data-type-= id-encoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-part* instance-identifi= er | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-part instance-identifi= er | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-valid-period-end? yang:date-and-tim= e | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-valid-period-start? yang:date-and-tim= e +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-access-container | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-access-list* [supa-policy-metada= ta-id] | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-id string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-id-encoding policy-data-type-id-e= ncoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-part* instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-part instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-agg* instance-identifier +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-version-container | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-version-list* [supa-policy-metad= ata-id] | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-id string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-id-encoding policy-data-type-id-e= ncoding-list | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-description? string | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-name? string | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-part* instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-part instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-decorator-agg* instance-identifier +--rw supa-policy-metadata-detail-container | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-detail-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-object-ptr? instance-identi= fier | +--rw supa-has-policy-metadata-ptr? instance-identi= fier | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-detail-is-applicable? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-detail-constraint* string | +--rw supa-policy-metadata-detail-encoding? string +--rw supa-policy-component-decorator-detail-container | +--rw supa-policy-component-decorator-detail-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-component-decorator-ptr? instance-identifie= r | +--rw supa-policy-component-ptr? instance-identifie= r | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint* string | +--rw supa-has-decorator-constraint-encoding? string +--rw supa-policy-source-detail-container | +--rw supa-policy-source-detail-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-source-structure-ptr? instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-source-ptr? instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-source-is-authenticated? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-source-is-trusted? boolean +--rw supa-policy-target-detail-container | +--rw supa-policy-target-detail-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-target-structure-ptr? instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-target-ptr? instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-source-is-authenticated? boolean | +--rw supa-policy-source-is-enabled? boolean +--rw supa-policy-clause-detail-container | +--rw supa-policy-clause-detail-list* [supa-policy-ID] | +--rw supa-policy-ID string | +--rw entity-class? identityref | +--rw supa-policy-clause-structure-ptr? instance-identifier | +--rw supa-policy-clause-ptr? instance-identifier +--rw supa-policy-exec-fail-take-action-detail-container +--rw supa-policy-exec-fail-take-action-detail-list* [supa-policy-ID] +--rw supa-policy-ID string +--rw entity-class? identityref +--rw supa-policy-structure-action-src-ptr? instance-ident= ifier +--rw supa-policy-structure-action-dst-ptr? instance-ident= ifier +--rw supa-policy-exec-fail-take-action-encoding? policy-data-ty= pe-id-encoding-list +--rw supa-policy-exec-fail-take-action-name* string Regards, Will (Shucheng LIU) > -----Original Message----- > From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:40 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: supa@ietf.org > Subject: [Supa] I-D Action: draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00.= txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions of= the IETF. >=20 > Title : Generic Policy Data Model for Simplified Use of > Policy Abstractions (SUPA) > Authors : Joel Halpern > John Strassner > Filename : draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00.txt > Pages : 48 > Date : 2016-07-20 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines two YANG policy data models. The first is a > generic policy model that is meant to be extended on an application- > specific basis. The second is an exemplary extension of the first > generic policy model, and defines rules as event-condition-action > policies. Both models are independent of the level of abstraction of > the content and meaning of a policy. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-mode= l/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-supa-generic-policy-data-model-00 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Supa mailing list > Supa@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/supa From nobody Thu Jul 28 01:57:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EFC12D799 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:57:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UFHjSp0QMY3Y for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7556212D0A6 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id COL62796; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:57:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA415-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.33) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.93) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 09:57:01 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA509-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.215]) by SZXEMA415-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.33]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:56:57 +0800 From: "Liushucheng (Will)" To: "supa@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: supa wiki link Thread-Index: AdHordpmbv94xMQ6S6S55CUxNEttjg== Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:56:57 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.78.84] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C9B5F12337F6F841B35C404CF0554ACB897C938BSZXEMA509MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A0B0202.5799C8DF.00D8, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.2.215, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: e0c54f6008e72b880e97b93fed9b99f4 Archived-At: Subject: [Supa] supa wiki link X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:57:07 -0000 --_000_C9B5F12337F6F841B35C404CF0554ACB897C938BSZXEMA509MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per request from Boris Khasanov (I hope the spelling is correct) during the= SUPA meeting in Berlin, here is the link: https://github.com/IETF-SUPA/SU= PA/wiki (Please note that this wiki is used during SUPA bof period in last year.) Regards, Will (Shucheng LIU) --_000_C9B5F12337F6F841B35C404CF0554ACB897C938BSZXEMA509MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Per request from Boris Khasanov= (I hope the spelling is correct) during the SUPA meeting in Berlin, here i= s the link: https:= //github.com/IETF-SUPA/SUPA/wiki

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--_000_C9B5F12337F6F841B35C404CF0554ACB897C938BSZXEMA509MBSchi_-- From nobody Thu Jul 28 05:04:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1531D12DF79 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wAtWz2huPBxN for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47B5112DF76 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3402C280006; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:04:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=1.tigertech; t=1469707441; bh=6AriIM8wSjs9EF4EjuH4PGgVd+UQRMvXDiP4X9RythE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=CLa/Xy9FkZuphbeb6plGBFt+o09966qGcjLoxdArHe12KimJHdMylQIWWzGRBVyxb s2+sFsTw8/jQkihk1+idut1nUUBbEVbi7jhu9twsQwWw6usmfr662DxvUW+4YipXio v+hyI1q3zJ4QGkPPkitDExBScRat80WPeq6WifDw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (209-255-163-147.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.255.163.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C12331C03A5; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:04:00 -0700 (PDT) To: "Liushucheng (Will)" , "supa@ietf.org" References: From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: <9d95030e-1702-a1c7-d3e9-5f7c2287c758@joelhalpern.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:03:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Supa] supa wiki link X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:04:09 -0000 I would strongly hope that if the SUPA working group wants to put material on a wiki, we would use the one the IETF provides as an IETF resource: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/supa/trac/wiki Yours, Joel On 7/28/16 4:56 AM, Liushucheng (Will) wrote: > Per request from Boris Khasanov (I hope the spelling is correct) during > the SUPA meeting in Berlin, here is the link: > https://github.com/IETF-SUPA/SUPA/wiki > > (Please note that this wiki is used during SUPA bof period in last year.) > > > > Regards, > > Will (Shucheng LIU) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Supa mailing list > Supa@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/supa > From nobody Thu Jul 28 12:31:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: supa@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB3912E04C for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:30:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rapZgs_KF8T6 for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mh-0-0.lancs.ac.uk (mh-0-0.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.65.128]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2620312E03A for ; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex-0-ht0.lancs.ac.uk ([10.42.18.47] helo=EX-0-HT0.lancs.local) by mh-0-0.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1bSr1D-000BSD-4d for supa@ietf.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:30:55 +0100 Received: from EX-0-MB2.lancs.local ([fe80::9d98:936b:54d1:c531]) by EX-0-HT0.lancs.local ([fe80::7d10:114a:53b0:7f2f%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0294.000; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:30:55 +0100 From: "King, Daniel" To: SUPA list Thread-Topic: [Supa] supa wiki link Thread-Index: AdHordpmbv94xMQ6S6S55CUxNEttjgAEcpOAABGi1KA= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 19:30:53 +0000 Message-ID: <65174429B5AF4C45BD0798810EC48E0A8C439F7D@EX-0-MB2.lancs.local> References: <9d95030e-1702-a1c7-d3e9-5f7c2287c758@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <9d95030e-1702-a1c7-d3e9-5f7c2287c758@joelhalpern.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [78.129.130.11] x-iss-local-domain: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Supa] FW: supa wiki link X-BeenThere: supa@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss SUPA \(Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions\) related issues." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 19:30:58 -0000 Joel is right, if we have use of a wiki (which I think we do) we should use= the IETF resource.=20 We will need to review the content on the GitHub location below and see wha= t might be useful to port over to an IETF-based wiki.=20 Thanks to Boris and Will for starting/continuing the SUPA wiki discussion.= =20 BR, Dan.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern Sent: 28 July 2016 13:03 To: Liushucheng (Will) ; supa@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Supa] supa wiki link I would strongly hope that if the SUPA working group wants to put material = on a wiki, we would use the one the IETF provides as an IETF resource: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/supa/trac/wiki Yours, Joel On 7/28/16 4:56 AM, Liushucheng (Will) wrote: > Per request from Boris Khasanov (I hope the spelling is correct)=20 > during the SUPA meeting in Berlin, here is the link: > https://github.com/IETF-SUPA/SUPA/wiki > > (Please note that this wiki is used during SUPA bof period in last=20 > year.) > > > > Regards, > > Will (Shucheng LIU) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Supa mailing list > Supa@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/supa > _______________________________________________ Supa mailing list Supa@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/supa