From nobody Fri Oct 17 02:58:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843E91AC3B2 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 02:58:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z0BtkSN6SnVt for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 02:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B10B91AC3B4 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 02:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADB6D9303; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:57:58 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AXWlxCjzilJ1; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:57:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.178.32] (stgt-4d02cf6c.pool.mediaWays.net [77.2.207.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mirjak) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5756FD9302; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:57:58 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <5440E825.8070900@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:57:57 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Mirja_K=FChlewind?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: taps WG References: <9D725DD0-7136-4D02-99E0-48E03C173C9E@iab.org> <2A1A7030-B24F-459A-A568-0B83F9F669CD@trammell.ch> In-Reply-To: <2A1A7030-B24F-459A-A568-0B83F9F669CD@trammell.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/MyGd7qjiSsQljrhm8MNm97zZBtM Cc: Brian Trammell Subject: Re: [Taps] Fwd: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolution in a Middlebox Internet (SEMI) X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:58:03 -0000 Please note, submission deadline is in 2 weeks! To participate in this workshop you only have to submit a short position paper (not more than 2 pages). We would really appreciate some input from this working group! See you, Mirja On 09.09.2014 18:17, Brian Trammell wrote: > Greetings, all, > > FYI, for those of you not on ietf-announce... > > Cheers, > > Brian > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: IAB Chair >> Subject: Call for Papers: IAB Workshop on Stack Evolution in a Middlebox Internet (SEMI) >> Date: 9 Sep 2014 18:09:43 GMT+2 >> To: IETF Announce >> Cc: IAB , IETF >> Reply-To: IAB >> >> IAB Workshop on Stack Evolution in a Middlebox Internet (SEMI) >> 26-27 January 2015 – ETH Zürich, Switzerland >> >> The Internet’s transport layer has ossified, squeezed between narrow >> interfaces (from BSD sockets to pseudo-transport over HTTPS) and >> increasing in-network modification of traffic by middleboxes that make >> assumptions about the protocols running through them. This ossification >> makes it difficult to innovate in the transport layer, through the >> deployment of new protocols or the extension of existing ones. At the >> same time, emerging applications require functionality that existing >> protocols can provide only inefficiently, if at all. >> >> To begin to address this problem, the Internet Architecture Board (IAB), >> within the scope of its IP Stack Evolution Program, is organizing a >> workshop to discuss approaches to de-ossifying transport, especially >> with respect to interactions with middleboxes and new methods for >> implementing transport protocols. Recognizing that the end-to-end >> principle has long been compromised, we start with the fundamental >> question of matching paths through the Internet with certain >> characteristics to application and transport requirements. Which paths >> through the Internet are actually available to applications? Which >> transports can be used over these paths? How can applications cooperate >> with network elements to improve path establishment and discovery? Can >> common transport functionality and standardization help application >> developers to implement and deploy such approaches in today’s Internet? >> Could cooperative approaches give us a way to rebalance the Internet >> back toward its end-to-end roots? >> >> Topics >> >> For this workshop we would like to consider topics that speak to these >> questions, including the following: >> >> - Development and deployment of transport-like features in application- >> layer protocols >> - Methods for discovery of path characteristics and protocol >> availability along a path >> - Methods for middlebox detection and characterization of middlebox >> behavior and functionality >> - Methods for NAT and middlebox traversal in the establishment of end- >> to-end paths >> - Mechanisms for cooperative path-endpoint signaling, and lessons >> learned from existing approaches >> - Economic considerations and incentives for cooperation in middlebox >> deployment >> >> We will explicitly focus on approaches that are incrementally deployable >> within the present Internet. >> >> The outcome of the workshop will be architectural and engineering >> guidance on future work in the area, published as an IAB workshop >> report, based on discussion of proposed approaches; future work will be >> pursued within the IAB Stack Evolution Program. We will also explore >> possible areas for standardization, e.g. new protocols that separate >> signaling to and from on-path devices and common transport semantics >> from the rest of the transport protocol; and for general guidance, e.g. >> how transports as well as middleboxes can be designed and deployed to >> achieve these goals. >> >> Submission Instructions >> >> Attendance at the workshop is by invitation. Prospective participants >> are invited to submit short position papers outlining their views on one >> or more topics related to the scope of the workshop. Position papers >> will be published on the IAB website at: >> http://www.iab.org/activities/workshops/semi/. >> >> Submissions accepted at: >> https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=semi2015 >> >> Submission Deadline: 31 October 2014 >> >> Notification Deadline: 17 November 2014 >> >> Workshop Dates: 26-27 January 2015 >> >> Sponsored by the Internet Architecture Board, the Internet Society, and >> ETH Zürich. Mirja Kühlewind and Brian Trammell, General Chairs. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps > From nobody Mon Oct 20 11:34:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94E41A9023 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:34:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eashfYeR9KtG for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D87A71A901F for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id m15so6045678wgh.28 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=b9apkk7WrECSSqRsHsnawpM9Yah8nAU594z+2H5KVWQ=; b=qftvfi1CFQ4phhNlMMjiPFS3KsAtHZMpysq0aanlm3AUgqzqlFmeM8bQELzM0ThOiJ pMFkzkgVZF5PuBDY6HnI4YdvCwIY2D0rv8nJwD8bTQ2BhoHXd5Oa74U9la+QwabsFHrv 6LnhvsL4oQJfvNSq7i9yVXhtWiYO/oOR1O7DFE7rdDf/EWI94pKx9waMb29AV7c3xoEf rHyXBmkckrxQSLxZE0kdZ6Zao5g5FsNN0T+Ro2RTIVwLPVKXYJaydGEcNh6Pz+3xvYn0 gcZWOwA8oyAbckiCH7UV5piMyNnhxetzG/a8Bml0UHvYmZ3WsaMDpk7uJlaT+AtojgkG h1Ag== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.22.202 with SMTP id g10mr13888029wjf.104.1413830049296; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.209.193 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:34:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: "taps@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d461adc7b9a0505def53d Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/ZNnwQyc-CgWOsjIr8BzLDHin4HM Subject: [Taps] update on TAPS doc 1 X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:34:13 -0000 --047d7b5d461adc7b9a0505def53d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Folks- Gorry Fairhurst & Brian Gravel have agreed to edit the first TAPS doc that will define a set of Transport Services, identifying the services provided by existing IETF protocols and congestion control mechanisms. The plan is to get an annotated outline out as the -00 draft for discussion up to and at the IETF meeting in Honolulu on November 13th. We will be looking for feedback on the document structure and volunteers to author sections. --aaron --047d7b5d461adc7b9a0505def53d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks-

Gorry Fairhurst & Brian G= ravel have agreed to edit the first TAPS doc that will define a set of Tran= sport Services, identifying the services provided by existing IETF protocol= s and congestion control mechanisms.=C2=A0 The plan is to get an annotated = outline out as the -00 draft for discussion up to and at the IETF meeting i= n Honolulu on November 13th.=C2=A0 We will be looking for feedback on the d= ocument structure and volunteers to author sections.

--aaron =C2=A0
--047d7b5d461adc7b9a0505def53d-- From nobody Mon Oct 20 12:29:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB881AC3FF for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:29:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1z12EE48V3r8 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-n.franken.de (drew.ipv6.franken.de [IPv6:2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77E521AC3F2 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (p508F2DDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.143.45.218]) (Authenticated sender: macmic) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7DF1C0B4026; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:29:40 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Michael Tuexen In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:29:39 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <066147DA-DF5C-494D-9124-9DD31B57E265@fh-muenster.de> References: To: Aaron Falk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/ZSWb8gB4Thz-J-q_uPbd9B5v18g Cc: "taps@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Taps] update on TAPS doc 1 X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:29:46 -0000 On 20 Oct 2014, at 20:34, Aaron Falk wrote: > Hi Folks- >=20 > Gorry Fairhurst & Brian Gravel have agreed to edit the first TAPS doc = that will define a set of Transport Services, identifying the services = provided by existing IETF protocols and congestion control mechanisms. = The plan is to get an annotated outline out as the -00 draft for = discussion up to and at the IETF meeting in Honolulu on November 13th. = We will be looking for feedback on the document structure and volunteers = to author sections. Hi Aaron, great news. Let me know if I can help authoring some sections. However, = I can't attend the next IETF meeting. Best regards Michael >=20 > --aaron =20 > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps From nobody Tue Oct 21 06:52:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6101A6F5A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:51:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MT9AcIdlNQuL for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70FF91A6F88 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hi2so1947346wib.2 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aoepPBFzfdBe9L3WAL4X+QCOpXRECpcJJEJiYl2F3kY=; b=IG2OQMs2yVoeZ3vnkwjo/G1UdSBW1R8O2740JkNmZgN0hU7M8UUZkciVF8hIOnZNZE 3P3VMbyksPbNbLFH2+iwPKAnF5fKtkL4+7QAVMFEYfLQyEtLVul6PmwfI+qKlzIAFtJW 00wnoZnCTEQDVkZOB5/b3GcGyOtbcstgm+S5NyzadINGKHL1h9TaAV3IpQ6hYckCWnm6 YJSwmYGQHOSm48CddBQRZdbCSdlthmgyP8PZnDcZdwrNV2MtDZpa4Tl+OFlT3WbOtRiY yhk8fdODZydURTwFNDji+EiHqm71LseUkckg3PmfYCLF5o3g4t+RVNemstvked3d7pMi Yezw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.250.105 with SMTP id zb9mr13018016wjc.123.1413897912579; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.209.193 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:25:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: "taps@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c28b4ed3fc270505eec253 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/Prz7xgbr1vKWGRu6cANfgZLLq2M Subject: Re: [Taps] update on TAPS doc 1 X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:51:53 -0000 --001a11c28b4ed3fc270505eec253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sorry, that is Brian _Trammell_! (Wetware autocorrect error.) On Monday, October 20, 2014, Aaron Falk wrote: > Hi Folks- > > Gorry Fairhurst & Brian Gravel have agreed to edit the first TAPS doc that > will define a set of Transport Services, identifying the services provided > by existing IETF protocols and congestion control mechanisms. The plan is > to get an annotated outline out as the -00 draft for discussion up to and > at the IETF meeting in Honolulu on November 13th. We will be looking for > feedback on the document structure and volunteers to author sections. > > --aaron > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile --001a11c28b4ed3fc270505eec253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, that is Brian _Trammell_! (Wetware autocorrect error.)

On Mon= day, October 20, 2014, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Folks-

Gorry Fairhurst & Brian Gra= vel have agreed to edit the first TAPS doc that will define a set of Transp= ort Services, identifying the services provided by existing IETF protocols = and congestion control mechanisms.=C2=A0 The plan is to get an annotated ou= tline out as the -00 draft for discussion up to and at the IETF meeting in = Honolulu on November 13th.=C2=A0 We will be looking for feedback on the doc= ument structure and volunteers to author sections.

--aaron =C2=A0


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--001a11c28b4ed3fc270505eec253-- From nobody Tue Oct 28 09:11:04 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5BB1A906F for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HFeY814YbJl0 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 502191A906E for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q5so9792800wiv.7 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:04:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3kvp3Uy+b7g+7ju13G3ulu2dDId7zSVD9CCBpHTJnqA=; b=njflBhJ/s3/zxws/xzrKXSmY8D4p9hav9WNkaF39+O/iGmXtJOxtGFqIrey9ahC4tV dMkWwkzjyGZN5OgXfycWLgNH5FtMo02xOtft0r8RBDNx84MxiHTxT+0a06390alhnrmG ESPEAUZCmFkQOayjK5A/HKMCYIGdUHH+sZcwvyMcHFWAknnGT5yaxYudZ14v+U2L9qp3 FjGY4nYnBT/gx9d3gmc+lZtR8ATH2AdLF0TbtTLqwCKqMtDJFjGfXCHEsYZ/hUgRNsxE 0sddskB3DveIj65FD24pRRhXdbQilH459FKUNM203+3emXsGSeeuzHkcFFiO6oCS1WiL feFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.250.105 with SMTP id zb9mr4604436wjc.123.1414512256877; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.67.137 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:04:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: "taps@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c28b4e9a0bca05067dccbb Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/OPBKH4tDV1j0Ra5MqcG8c76QCgQ Cc: Gorry Fairhurst , Brian Trammell Subject: [Taps] new draft available: draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00 X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:10:53 -0000 --001a11c28b4e9a0bca05067dccbb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Folks- Gorry & Brian have published an annotated framework for TAPS doc 1 on transport services here . We'll discuss whether to adopt it as a working group doc in Honolulu. I encourage you to send comments and offers to contribute text before then. --aaron --001a11c28b4e9a0bca05067dccbb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks-

Gorry & Brian have publis= hed an annotated framework for TAPS doc 1 on transport services here.=C2= =A0 We'll discuss whether to adopt it as a working group doc in Honolul= u.=C2=A0 I encourage you to send comments and offers to contribute text bef= ore then. =C2=A0

--aaron
--001a11c28b4e9a0bca05067dccbb-- From nobody Tue Oct 28 11:21:10 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB4A1AC3FB for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:21:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9S6ytv7NhNnp for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:21:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F1491ACCF0 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id a1so1527792wgh.6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gAMGcD4ouuancrkNxzWsipnW6+pyF8HQtptCDuJY2dA=; b=maCQsiArNrjULcU83kaaPIsMeP6AuLnVvTUcqAklyOxz7Zk6eKwaETPL35SXQQkQHL Y0sOZ3vEmDsnn9SADl+f056maUqq3WrdQUBxlB21KBFWCC53OcOQuHYOdVMdK1lQetDu IiKWmAxaYvq6dyU09w5ZTCM2C35JbWUGJkzXASeUnsOVUKG1Ki5GoDjK8vw5tZwQnGtb Rw4XVYIORLO/fYnD5jPoapGj/RN16Rw+EJRX5dTUqvfOdro6zjVVeLBJ4KeYuJmzleSb funFDfq/wLqZhO0QII86k7KCpwhQsJvnncaWPoC9sqkkxxHbXPD7l8Vp29eqMYsA0Xpu eWXg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.61.208 with SMTP id s16mr6288039wjr.104.1414519974604; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.67.137 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:12:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: "taps@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86d3e69d358d05067f98c5 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/AdbPU-agATixBU9wVz34eusrwhM Subject: [Taps] call for agenda topics X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:21:06 -0000 --047d7b86d3e69d358d05067f98c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Folks- Please send proposals for TAPS agenda topics for the Honolulu meeting ASAP. Currently I'm thinking we'll have the following: 1) a discussion on terminology 2) comments on draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00 3) hum on adopting draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00 as a wg doc Also, a heads-up: our meeting time may be changing. The IESG is trying to resolve some scheduling conflicts and I've been asked whether we could meet in another slot. Stay tuned. --aaron --047d7b86d3e69d358d05067f98c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks-

Please send proposals for TAP= S agenda topics for the Honolulu meeting ASAP.=C2=A0 Currently I'm thin= king we'll have the following:

1) a discussion= on terminology
2) comments on draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00=
3) hum on adopting draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00 as a wg do= c


Also, a heads-up: our meeting tim= e may be changing.=C2=A0 The IESG is trying to resolve some scheduling conf= licts and I've been asked whether we could meet in another slot.=C2=A0 = Stay tuned.

--aaron
--047d7b86d3e69d358d05067f98c5-- From nobody Tue Oct 28 11:27:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7BB1A9115 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b22tyjvlmQAz for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu [18.9.25.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F13AE1AC3E9 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1209190c-f795e6d000006c66-45-544fdddcb568 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) (using TLS with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 14.9F.27750.CDDDF445; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu (outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu [18.9.28.13]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id s9SII3Sr022006; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:18:03 -0400 Received: from OC11EXEDGE3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU (oc11exedge3.exchange.mit.edu [18.9.3.21]) by outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id s9SII00D020769; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:18:02 -0400 Received: from W92EXHUB14.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.25) by OC11EXEDGE3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU (18.9.3.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:17:59 -0400 Received: from OC11EXPO28.exchange.mit.edu ([169.254.1.121]) by W92EXHUB14.exchange.mit.edu ([18.7.73.25]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:18:01 -0400 From: Marie-Jose Montpetit To: Aaron Falk Thread-Topic: [Taps] new draft available: draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00 Thread-Index: AQHP8snMWJ76k5SlV02iYtjeTH4d1JxGFHMA Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:18:00 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [50.241.90.249] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C8FE4138-51E3-4F6E-A61E-C2419AEAC898"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA02Ta0hTYRjHec85np3Zjpzmao/rxoYilbOSgmlhQRFimkYjooI6tZNbbVPO maX2RawMNewmljNxXopS6aJIdqF0Fd1JI6PyEtYqcyUMP9jVOmdHzW+/5/3/n//zPvC+FK5+ Suoom9PF8U7WbiBDCbUiMdrY25dmXtxdNM9U+Ks8xOQvrESmq4eGSVPvtlVE0tGRQSzpurtP kVRf/wNL8t2pINKJLaErLJzdto/jFyXuCLX+uF1CZrXH5XTfO0jmo7rYYqSkgFkKJ8sGSZln Qmf/ZZFDKTVTicFDfwWSi3YExwpGQuTiAYJXpYcVcnENwcvaP+O2RgSeqlJcCiOZGPh4uDbI GiYKzg8eEYMpCmf2Q+2HROk4nFkH384NY9KxhkmBS02psjsOyvsCIRITYmf3WGOQaSYBblbV B6+qZtLhY5kPSaxkNkDRoxdBRuIKo4+bMIlxRgtvfdWYvJoGBrqeTK45dmNgnPXweugQIV0f Z8oQVL8aQ/Kw6fCowkccR+CekuWe6nNP8cmmndB59dM4L4TzNX7cHVw5Bk7VIPl4Hlz7dhaf sASe38NkXgb++4Fxz3I487ODlFkPZSUDCg+a1oDmWBx5RgdrswvcLqOwi3U6Od64JNZhc8Vy luxmJD0UZYSqDX3tMHgRQyGDil48sN6sDmH3CbkOL4qgMMMM2vQmzawO25lpybWygnU7n23n BC+KFGe9v9LYiXSEM9PJGTT0ppuij7awuXkcnzlhm0URBi3d/D3MrGYyWBe3l+OyOH5CnU1R BqCv94qN03kug8vZbbO7/ssYpfQioFRieFifFC5ksQ7BliHrj5Fep6VbekSBkQRrtnOyd+IT DCGtuFY47ZdGqMQvMtk9JAZjYnBceYoU7GL/S7p8tNZzsdf8e01C0VyyuLEgYqQC8n0NrZ68 uKIu/ei0d22VSkx163jm8s0rmlpitM1dxmds4IuFXze3P6o1FcJXH4i+ewKPjP+bvBLV3qqp q2xfyx3N+tPZ0+Y4dcRmu5Cs2Jqr338a6QrCO+Z/Lo06IcTvKdz44e3mLldCqfdJVbKBEKzs kgU4L7D/AEmdYeDfAwAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/taps/GZQ14Gg3SCewhzS0mULMPRVp-Ic Cc: Gorry Fairhurst , Brian Trammell , "taps@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Taps] new draft available: draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-00 X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:26:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C8FE4138-51E3-4F6E-A61E-C2419AEAC898 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_96376DB4-B18A-45C6-A316-58365E6775B1" --Apple-Mail=_96376DB4-B18A-45C6-A316-58365E6775B1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is interesting and I think a good start for overall framework. = While I have not tallied which one of those are in the IETF would we = want to also include some of the TCP accelerator work? And of course = some the IRTF work on network coding that exposes a reliable and error = free service could eventually be added when it makes it to IETF? /mjm Marie-Jose Montpetit, Ph.D. mariejo@mit.edu @SocialTVMIT > On Oct 28, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Falk wrote: >=20 > Hi Folks- >=20 > Gorry & Brian have published an annotated framework for TAPS doc 1 on = transport services here = . We'll = discuss whether to adopt it as a working group doc in Honolulu. I = encourage you to send comments and offers to contribute text before = then. =20 >=20 > --aaron > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps --Apple-Mail=_96376DB4-B18A-45C6-A316-58365E6775B1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii This is interesting and I think a good start for overall framework. While I have not tallied which one of those are in the IETF would we want to also include some of the TCP accelerator work? And of course some the IRTF work on network coding that exposes a reliable and error free service could eventually be added when it makes it to IETF?

/mjm
Marie-Jose Montpetit, Ph.D.
mariejo@mit.edu
@SocialTVMIT

On Oct 28, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Folks-

Gorry & Brian have published an annotated framework for TAPS doc 1 on transport services here.  We'll discuss whether to adopt it as a working group doc in Honolulu.  I encourage you to send comments and offers to contribute text before then.  

--aaron
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Cheers, Brian On 28 Oct 2014, at 19:18, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote: > This is interesting and I think a good start for overall framework. = While I have not tallied which one of those are in the IETF would we = want to also include some of the TCP accelerator work? And of course = some the IRTF work on network coding that exposes a reliable and error = free service could eventually be added when it makes it to IETF? >=20 > /mjm > Marie-Jose Montpetit, Ph.D. > mariejo@mit.edu > @SocialTVMIT >=20 >> On Oct 28, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Aaron Falk = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Folks- >>=20 >> Gorry & Brian have published an annotated framework for TAPS doc 1 on = transport services here. We'll discuss whether to adopt it as a working = group doc in Honolulu. I encourage you to send comments and offers to = contribute text before then. =20 >>=20 >> --aaron >> _______________________________________________ >> Taps mailing list >> Taps@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps >=20