From nobody Tue Mar 1 06:10:21 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1301A87C5 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 06:10:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.906 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.906 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EAWJ_0V_Rw4u for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 06:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-out4.uio.no (mail-out4.uio.no [IPv6:2001:700:100:10::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25AD21A87C7 for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 06:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-mx2.uio.no ([129.240.10.30]) by mail-out4.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1aal09-0001zu-Nb; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:10:13 +0100 Received: from boomerang.ifi.uio.no ([129.240.68.135]) by mail-mx2.uio.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) user michawe (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aal09-0000NP-Co; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:10:13 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Michael Welzl In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 15:10:13 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6B1FF02B-0751-4DFD-B1B1-A399DF14E226@ifi.uio.no> References: To: Aaron Falk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-UiO-SPF-Received: X-UiO-Ratelimit-Test: rcpts/h 4 msgs/h 2 sum rcpts/h 7 sum msgs/h 3 total rcpts 38861 max rcpts/h 54 ratelimit 0 X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-6.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.05, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 49D7B07958647B0EAB15AE609B06DEFDA3E2AD14 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 129.240.68.135 spam_score: -59 maxlevel 80 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 2 total 9301 max/h 17 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Archived-At: Cc: "taps@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Taps] agenda planning X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:10:20 -0000 > On 26 Feb 2016, at 15:48, Aaron Falk wrote: >=20 > Proposed topics: > =E2=80=A2 Proposed adoption of = draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-udp/ - Gorry et al > =E2=80=A2 Draft update of draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-00 - = Michael et al >=20 > Other topics? Are we ready to start talking about doc2 yet? >=20 > 2) Specify the subset of those Transport Services, as identified=20 > in item 1, that end systems supporting TAPS will provide, and=20 > give guidance on choosing among available mechanisms and=20 > protocols. Note that not all the capabilities of IETF Transport=20 > protocols need to be exposed as Transport Services. Talk about it, yes. Have a draft, no :( Also, Stein Gjessing made the point that this = should be based on draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage, which is growing = but still far from finished (sorry) But I think we should try to talk about the *how* - how will we give = guidance, how will we create the subset? At least one idea is in draft-gjessing-taps-minset-00, and I have some = more. Cheers, Michael From nobody Tue Mar 1 07:22:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60651B2CFF for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:22:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7fR-9SBkPi9S for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x22b.google.com (mail-yw0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A43F1B2CFC for ; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id g127so151401956ywf.2 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:22:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=A1rmuDxRdkP8BpZeJizRmD/YT/x5bBBVD0Kpzb7FdCw=; b=xGc2dkWGw80o3Ll045PybqSjCgsV2yO9/Aa/yXdURAX4oKTmLyD0vCAJZPRNofzsi7 6P2MZi3CqRBnSVXvHjhDS6MQ3494elR50Wl+mtWwo4a8ZjoXhJiTMkXPk85dVjhWsryq buK2gyxS8ACsIVuQOxWP+wdr+zaz2P9Q4y/F9uLZ66UqKwOejp+2CJyL4+Yg7VFIMtCC r8liNEolEry/bxN6dLSFH686QEixXA1heEY8gm2zCf4erzKK/0AUeIQoC3E1wMEAeYiR HWN4nb+TLtPe3NbhrfuoDqwj/mYDk+hsH9Wz86gZJQ2WDpovWxQiw7bUkZYlT7pTlg2+ oEuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=A1rmuDxRdkP8BpZeJizRmD/YT/x5bBBVD0Kpzb7FdCw=; b=mqPMrxlCfVzCvibPUBUmQ7Bx9a3Xai6N1G3QbsJLgPnA5oXLJPDgvF0UhP19gUISMf UiAgeG6wj5MEiEy7VikXuDh+PxEZMJ4WepVc+AOece+UBcBCiZAc7DOxrqpFXkrcuYgo l2PoVXSRUHWJjjaTIqlM3b8suPSthMLqyzIztBSp/nVXdsbkkXgIuyD0CYZaAzpKGqGw zhHNxbYzVbz6mqpcJQvfz+QRC4iB57x/pCF5Z9nA7wOdGfvIqSLMHxNVealFr7fipDLJ NqU9p8pRb/fo6pcIDeGSTUtiy7biPxcQn/1HXWtggyPvlZwq0fdvus01fa81UKQHK5Su bRMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLJVZxvqv7eivYByyoDjLnftWoUry9N8Mg6XMgdWJ1Y9p7vEr3zIrfTB1jJy71BUsIphpBV65NlyM93FA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.35.10 with SMTP id j10mr11747566ywj.167.1456845762465; Tue, 01 Mar 2016 07:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.70.198 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:22:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6B1FF02B-0751-4DFD-B1B1-A399DF14E226@ifi.uio.no> References: <6B1FF02B-0751-4DFD-B1B1-A399DF14E226@ifi.uio.no> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 10:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: Michael Welzl Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11428f5a2a1a65052cfe5682 Archived-At: Cc: "taps@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Taps] agenda planning X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:22:44 -0000 --001a11428f5a2a1a65052cfe5682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Michael Welzl wrote: > > > On 26 Feb 2016, at 15:48, Aaron Falk wrote: > > > > Other topics? Are we ready to start talking about doc2 yet? > > > > 2) Specify the subset of those Transport Services, as identified > > in item 1, that end systems supporting TAPS will provide, and > > give guidance on choosing among available mechanisms and > > protocols. Note that not all the capabilities of IETF Transport > > protocols need to be exposed as Transport Services. > > Talk about it, yes. > Have a draft, no :( Also, Stein Gjessing made the point that this > should be based on draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage, which is growing but > still far from finished (sorry) > > But I think we should try to talk about the *how* - how will we give > guidance, how will we create the subset? > At least one idea is in draft-gjessing-taps-minset-00, and I have some > more. > Draft cutoff isn't for 3 weeks. ( Rough & exists ) >> ( !exists ) Just sayin' --aaron --001a11428f5a2a1a65052cfe5682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:

> On 26 Feb 2016, at 15:48, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Other topics?=C2=A0 Are we ready to start talking about doc2 y= et?
>
> 2) Specify the subset of those Transport Services, as identified
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 in item 1, that end systems supporting TAPS will provide,= and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 give guidance on choosing among available mechanisms and<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 protocols.=C2=A0 Note that not all the capabilities of IE= TF Transport
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 protocols need to be exposed as Transport Services.

Talk about it, yes.
Have a draft, no=C2=A0 :(=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Also, Stein Gjessing made the point = that this should be based on draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage, which is gro= wing but still far from finished (sorry)

But I think we should try to talk about=C2=A0 the *how* - how will we give = guidance, how will we create the subset?
At least one idea is in draft-gjessing-taps-minset-00, and I have some more= .

Draft cutoff isn't for 3 weeks. = =C2=A0( Rough & exists ) >> ( !exists ) =C2=A0

Just sayin'=C2=A0

--aaron
--001a11428f5a2a1a65052cfe5682-- From nobody Fri Mar 4 07:31:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietf.org Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA911A1EEA; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 07:31:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.15.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160304153117.14219.33189.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 07:31:17 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: taps@ietf.org Subject: [Taps] I-D Action: draft-ietf-taps-transports-10.txt X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 15:31:17 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Transport Services of the IETF. Title : Services provided by IETF transport protocols and congestion control mechanisms Authors : Godred Fairhurst Brian Trammell Mirja Kuehlewind Filename : draft-ietf-taps-transports-10.txt Pages : 53 Date : 2016-03-04 Abstract: This document describes, surveys, classifies and compares the protocol mechanisms provided by existing IETF protocols, as background for determining a common set of transport services. It examines the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), Multipath TCP, the Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP), the User Datagram Protocol (UDP), UDP-Lite, the Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP), the Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP), the Realtime Transport Protocol (RTP), File Delivery over Unidirectional Transport/Asynchronous Layered Coding Reliable Multicast (FLUTE/ALC), and NACK-Oriented Reliable Multicast (NORM), Transport Layer Security (TLS), Datagram TLS (DTLS), and the Hypertext Transport Protocol (HTTP) when used as a pseudotransport. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-taps-transports/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-taps-transports-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-taps-transports-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Mar 4 07:35:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133991A1F04 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 07:35:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kjNErxkxQUx8 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 07:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB581A1BE4 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 07:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80067D9304; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:35:10 +0100 (MET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id v2XaBk145TMt; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:35:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from [192.168.178.33] (x5f702d2d.dyn.telefonica.de [95.112.45.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mirjak) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EDC9ED9303; Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:35:09 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= In-Reply-To: <20160304153117.14219.33189.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 16:35:08 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <830927CC-22CA-4D2F-8025-D21106331B76@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: <20160304153117.14219.33189.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: taps WG X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Cc: "Fairhurst, Gorry" , Brian Trammell Subject: Re: [Taps] I-D Action: draft-ietf-taps-transports-10.txt X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 15:35:18 -0000 Hi all, this is the final version of the document. We only fixed a few minor = nits and reordered some of the subsections. We didn=E2=80=99t do this = before the wglc has reordering screws up the diff. I guess we are done. = Thanks to everybody who contributed and provided feedback! Mirja > Am 04.03.2016 um 16:31 schrieb internet-drafts@ietf.org: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Transport Services of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Services provided by IETF transport protocols = and congestion control mechanisms > Authors : Godred Fairhurst > Brian Trammell > Mirja Kuehlewind > Filename : draft-ietf-taps-transports-10.txt > Pages : 53 > Date : 2016-03-04 >=20 > Abstract: > This document describes, surveys, classifies and compares the > protocol mechanisms provided by existing IETF protocols, as > background for determining a common set of transport services. It > examines the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), Multipath TCP, the > Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP), the User Datagram > Protocol (UDP), UDP-Lite, the Datagram Congestion Control Protocol > (DCCP), the Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP), the Realtime > Transport Protocol (RTP), File Delivery over Unidirectional > Transport/Asynchronous Layered Coding Reliable Multicast = (FLUTE/ALC), > and NACK-Oriented Reliable Multicast (NORM), Transport Layer = Security > (TLS), Datagram TLS (DTLS), and the Hypertext Transport Protocol > (HTTP) when used as a pseudotransport. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-taps-transports/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-taps-transports-10 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-taps-transports-10 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps From nobody Tue Mar 8 08:31:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D752612D801 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:31:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ODa9qpZHviLw for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x232.google.com (mail-yw0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B10C12D533 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x232.google.com with SMTP id g127so16241025ywf.2 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:30:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=0Stk+oPahNHb3AV4pTln8hCwt3jYG0mJvpuXzvrKMJ0=; b=bcMF73z7YCj8CsTUWqUJxlHrrbr+MHOgpDyO9ZKXjO3nCNbDYeX2FKimCyUEsNcSG4 J84stOnPEhNSwLHwulXKuyuwWA+YhU1MfdvWfYCLS5tcu15YiZsB4aIdJbmEPKZP3Tf6 KbM2tZcGJNyA/mBu8eIKOCJaGlPVtZyW7Y/WgNe8JlIO2TquygheJxGUaBjVhlXd+6/t aGz+ODGKryp5UovBbkfkCMFm89HTv8jLuTPOvjjqkh2xqcpIYXOeN7zha2mAjDrX5CmL d/iaGUn35nJhhUJskWiy9vAfQjZ+ghN9Dsip+cvKVQ8Y975oFkAb7Da0RSjFVCvh5yHn rI0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=0Stk+oPahNHb3AV4pTln8hCwt3jYG0mJvpuXzvrKMJ0=; b=FCp4jv4oKW7PAAph8VpOqRjkWAuNG9KO+9dHnQO52ifP4PtgUO2jKDX9pJchQt4JE0 IMBmodt8+FWZoG3GiC+7dc1pAicJxWNhfMQ6QNygT4vn6BGs44jvR2ULCVZ5MpWcDY/R oFJV+v5l1Y23UCKJsd9UsppJD9i0ile+Gq/lk3N+GxWD2DGIY+r5/YspGeKZhyfRGobd wZc/kyAZEaU9cOV/TGI7CsBdH5UgjcP11GsTamuLKjIAr56wgII+WPtPoYxgSPl0Ko7O Ze3qkBllBUXzNfgKYOjFkImDclvYrHrnQqBNVyIiPs0yDyIB5nrtxdGr5aODzVeOsvzh upXw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJaO+y/1HrQw67O4H4NP43hCbeHvngOmfNhJCjAv1FldJRgpXoRzfnLDQ7Lc3a6RFZJ+25/SxMgZl1npw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.35.10 with SMTP id j10mr15522599ywj.167.1457454657862; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 08:30:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.70.198 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:30:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <830927CC-22CA-4D2F-8025-D21106331B76@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: <20160304153117.14219.33189.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <830927CC-22CA-4D2F-8025-D21106331B76@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 11:30:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: =?UTF-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11428f5a28c611052d8c1b9e Archived-At: Cc: "Fairhurst, Gorry" , Brian Trammell , taps WG Subject: Re: [Taps] I-D Action: draft-ietf-taps-transports-10.txt X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 16:31:13 -0000 --001a11428f5a28c611052d8c1b9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Mira. If no one has any objections, I will forward this document to Spencer for AD & IESG review. --aaron On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind < mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote: > Hi all, > > this is the final version of the document. We only fixed a few minor nits > and reordered some of the subsections. We didn=E2=80=99t do this before t= he wglc > has reordering screws up the diff. I guess we are done. Thanks to everybo= dy > who contributed and provided feedback! > > Mirja > > > > Am 04.03.2016 um 16:31 schrieb internet-drafts@ietf.org: > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Transport Services of the IETF. > > > > Title : Services provided by IETF transport protocols > and congestion control mechanisms > > Authors : Godred Fairhurst > > Brian Trammell > > Mirja Kuehlewind > > Filename : draft-ietf-taps-transports-10.txt > > Pages : 53 > > Date : 2016-03-04 > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes, surveys, classifies and compares the > > protocol mechanisms provided by existing IETF protocols, as > > background for determining a common set of transport services. It > > examines the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), Multipath TCP, the > > Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP), the User Datagram > > Protocol (UDP), UDP-Lite, the Datagram Congestion Control Protocol > > (DCCP), the Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP), the Realtime > > Transport Protocol (RTP), File Delivery over Unidirectional > > Transport/Asynchronous Layered Coding Reliable Multicast (FLUTE/ALC), > > and NACK-Oriented Reliable Multicast (NORM), Transport Layer Security > > (TLS), Datagram TLS (DTLS), and the Hypertext Transport Protocol > > (HTTP) when used as a pseudotransport. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-taps-transports/ > > > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-taps-transports-10 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-taps-transports-10 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Taps mailing list > > Taps@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps > > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps > --001a11428f5a28c611052d8c1b9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Mira.=C2=A0 If no one has any objections, I will f= orward this document to Spencer for AD & IESG review.

--aaron

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind <m= irja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote:
Hi all,

this is the final version of the document. We only fixed a few minor nits a= nd reordered some of the subsections. We didn=E2=80=99t do this before the = wglc has reordering screws up the diff. I guess we are done. Thanks to ever= ybody who contributed and provided feedback!

Mirja


> Am 04.03.2016 um 16:31 schrieb internet-drafts@ietf.org:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Transport Services of the IETF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: Services provided by IETF transport protocols and congestion control m= echanisms
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: = Godred Fairhurst
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Brian Trammell
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mirja Kuehlewind
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-= ietf-taps-transports-10.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: 53
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 : 2016-03-04
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document describes, surveys, classifies and compares = the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0protocol mechanisms provided by existing IETF protocols, a= s
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0background for determining a common set of transport servi= ces.=C2=A0 It
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0examines the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP), Multipat= h TCP, the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP), the User Data= gram
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Protocol (UDP), UDP-Lite, the Datagram Congestion Control = Protocol
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(DCCP), the Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMP), the = Realtime
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Transport Protocol (RTP), File Delivery over Unidirectiona= l
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Transport/Asynchronous Layered Coding Reliable Multicast (= FLUTE/ALC),
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0and NACK-Oriented Reliable Multicast (NORM), Transport Lay= er Security
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(TLS), Datagram TLS (DTLS), and the Hypertext Transport Pr= otocol
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(HTTP) when used as a pseudotransport.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-ietf-taps-transports/
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf= -taps-transports-10
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?u= rl2=3Ddraft-ietf-taps-transports-10
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of subm= ission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps

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Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:05:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160311230538.15028.75501.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:05:38 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com, taps@ietf.org Subject: [Taps] taps - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 95 X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:05:39 -0000 Dear Aaron, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. taps Session 1 (1:30:00) Monday, Morning Session I 1000-1230 Room Name: Buen Ayre A size: 125 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Transport Services Area Name: Transport Area Session Requester: Aaron Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 80 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: apparea appsawg tsvarea aqm rmcat ippm tsvwg iccrg tcpm Second Priority: webpush tcpinc ppsp nvo3 mptcp icnrg httpbis irtfopen Third Priority: mmusic tram Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Mar 18 11:47:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEE212D5A5 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GlByz0MVXaQd for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out5.uio.no (mail-out5.uio.no [IPv6:2001:700:100:10::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9881912D52E for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 11:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-mx1.uio.no ([129.240.10.29]) by mail-out5.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1agzQg-0000ia-R0 for taps@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:47:22 +0100 Received: from [51.175.202.159] (helo=[10.0.1.5]) by mail-mx1.uio.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) user steing (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1agzQf-0002WS-5o; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:47:22 +0100 From: Stein Gjessing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3AC1C33B-1E7F-4CD2-8EFA-B4B9519C3CB2" Message-Id: <21E4F4FA-87DC-4763-82B9-5845FDEF3DDC@ifi.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:47:23 +0100 References: <20160318170042.2615.14208.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: taps@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-UiO-SPF-Received: X-UiO-Ratelimit-Test: rcpts/h 3 msgs/h 1 sum rcpts/h 6 sum msgs/h 1 total rcpts 18685 max rcpts/h 46 ratelimit 0 X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 184BA1DB46DA26F13A5B8B927CF0F96D38D59393 X-UiO-SPAM-Test: UIO-GREYLIST remote_host: 51.175.202.159 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 99990 minaction 1 bait 0 mail/h: 1 total 275 max/h 7 blacklist 0 greylist 1 ratelimit 0 Archived-At: Cc: Michael Welzl , Stein Gjessing Subject: [Taps] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01.txt X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:47:29 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_3AC1C33B-1E7F-4CD2-8EFA-B4B9519C3CB2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, This draft is intended to be a starting point for Taps work item 2. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01 = Please discuss and comment. Cheers, Stein Begin forwarded message: From: Subject: New Version Notification for draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01.txt Date: 18 March 2016 at 18:00:42 GMT+1 To: Stein Gjessing , Michael Welzl = Resent-From: A new version of I-D, draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Stein Gjessing and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-gjessing-taps-minset Revision: 01 Title: A Minimal Set of Transport Services for TAPS Systems Document date: 2016-03-18 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 14 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gjessing-taps-minset/ Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01 Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-gjessing-taps-minset-01 Abstract: This draft will eventually recommend a minimal set of IETF Transport Services offered by end systems supporting TAPS, and give guidance on choosing among the available mechanisms and protocols. It categorizes the set of transport services given in the TAPS document draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-00, assuming that the eventual minimal set of transport services will be based on a similar form of categorization. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --Apple-Mail=_3AC1C33B-1E7F-4CD2-8EFA-B4B9519C3CB2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi,

This = draft is intended to be a starting point for Taps work item 2.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01
Please discuss and comment.

Cheers,
Stein

Begin forwarded message:
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Subject: = New Version = Notification for draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01.txt
Date: = 18 March 2016 at 18:00:42 = GMT+1
To: = Stein Gjessing <steing@ifi.uio.no>, = Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
Resent-From: = <steing@ifi.uio.no>

A new version of I-D, draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01.txt
has been successfully submitted by Stein Gjessing and posted = to the
IETF repository.

Name: = = draft-gjessing-taps-minset
Revision: 01
Title:= = A Minimal Set of Transport Services for TAPS Systems
Document date: 2016-03-18
Group:= = Individual Submission
Pages: 14
URL: =            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gjessing-taps-minset= -01.txt
Status: =         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gjessing-taps-minset/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01Diff: =           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-gjessing-taps-minset-= 01

Abstract:
=   This draft will eventually recommend a minimal set of IETF = Transport
  Services offered by end systems = supporting TAPS, and give guidance on
=   choosing among the available mechanisms and protocols. =  It
  categorizes the set of transport = services given in the TAPS document
=   draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-00, assuming that the = eventual
  minimal set of transport services = will be based on a similar form of
=   categorization.


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the = time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are = available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF = Secretariat


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Any TAPS implementation going on that we can hear about in= BA? =C2=A0

--aaron
--001a11428f5a304ab9052ea6ed60-- From nobody Wed Mar 23 10:02:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C0812D1DC for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:02:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8_EVXp1jLIvc for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x233.google.com (mail-yw0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE47112D0E1 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x233.google.com with SMTP id g3so27617359ywa.3 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=EStfWUbvwXah80nihevEsa0cJrb4cVS1kffbs5RwxYQ=; b=k7A9rUy9LLwywb75xAKaYHGdl3rRJKRh5wzHRjZP047V8bTzCgpBiVHF3Vyv4pIZ6y ZUUaVLeYwCojMIP01JHPPz1ETxpmAZa1E6r7J7IqMiTd1VTdltP8s+3YDkqxcJylB7QA 991pYoF0qA1mGtRouTorf0pHRf2oRCyjLxUYwrNqd5hzxCNbxcChmM6vpGXuSu+OHkqW S8A0yXR8LAGgGhgKMQpN5oMe9UltNo8BZK2e3488ifs2/NmDVvqYttpy7ly1bJ1wdpFz JBQ4ddCO1TEaKehZhXuX57P3/7aHfwdUi0JYLJB6/FIvQeewMKbL5iZQr+0KSgGulqRL dsJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=EStfWUbvwXah80nihevEsa0cJrb4cVS1kffbs5RwxYQ=; b=AcGNERZJUBDNxwkTg9QHhLdLKiriPOGfchn6WEFwxA6udwgN22L+yp24PawrpjPYRf xA6X4Nzuc7HnIpbbIwMf809gKyROozrwGTNT9GAap/9VaKMscpoJAZqtCkh7hK0sHaOv DZd8ugJP747e9Lkt53ZkBzuQrrcINX+2wrbcLlDQ1vb4PpfuByWnoXmwTXi1EdCmaIp5 LMf5S+ps4/MVjmJABnYl2ih7kO+0VlYmScf8ZJlnIJqoNQYvDKbo1qaFetUoGfoQe8iT bzJ1wzNh9zYwaoD5DHlrho7MN85QM9nfkOCmhNmnSFPssnPz6C1seJaZ4bmGPRpktIpB c7Ug== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKUifGuoXr42Lf5JMUSxwWhCkcJkVKeVi4Qgp4FPkQN5cMbrfTdwECCbu37VBTPiIRozXE9y0lDPN4R+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.155.81 with SMTP id s78mr1900090ywg.24.1458752552206; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.70.198 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13:02:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: "taps@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0b8e7cb085f6052eba4b00 Archived-At: Subject: [Taps] draft agenda X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 17:02:39 -0000 --94eb2c0b8e7cb085f6052eba4b00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UDP+UDP-L - Gorry Fairhurst draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-udp (1) Does this capture UDP API usage? (especially if you program using UDP). (2) What should/could this ID say about multicast use of UDP? (3) Would the WG be happy to take this, or a future revision of this draft, as input to the current working group draft? Constructing the minimal required TAPS service set - Stein Gjessing draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01 - How to give guidance to the application? - What, how and why put mechanisms under the hood? NEAT: a project implementing TAPS - Naeem Khademi NEAT is an H2020-funded EU project that is developing a system which allows network =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D to be offered to applications based on t= heir requirements and system policies. This will include an implementation of TAPS. This is a work-in-progress and in early stages of development. However, we believe in open code and have therefore already made the NEAT repository public. Suggestions, comments and patches are welcome on github.= The NEAT repository can be accessed here: https://github.com/NEAT-project/neat --94eb2c0b8e7cb085f6052eba4b00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


UDP+UDP-L = - Gorry Fairhurst
dr= aft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-udp<= /div>
(1) Does this capture UDP API usage? (especially if you program=C2=A0using UDP).
(2) What should/could this ID say about multicast use= of UDP?
(3) Would the WG be happy to take this, or a future r= evision of this=C2=A0draft, as input=C2=A0to the current working group dra= ft?

Constructing the minimal requi= red TAPS service set - Stein=C2=A0Gjessing
- = How to give guidance to the application?
- What, how and why put mechanisms under the hood?

NEAT: a project implementing TA= PS - Naeem Khademi
NEAT is an H2020-funded EU project that is developing a = system which allows network =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D to be offered to app= lications based on their requirements and system policies. This will includ= e an implementation of TAPS. =C2=A0This is a work-in-progress and in ea= rly stages of development. However, we believe in open code and have theref= ore already made the NEAT repository public. Suggestions, comments and patc= hes are welcome on github.=C2=A0The NEAT repository can be accessed here:=C2= =A0https://github= .com/NEAT-project/neat
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Doc 1a update - N= aeem Khademi=C2=A0
=C2= =A0 =E2=80=9COn the Usage of Transport Service Features Provided by IETF=C2= =A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Trans= port Protocols=E2=80=9D
=C2=A0 (1) Should (D)TLS be addressed?
<= div>
UDP+UDP-L - Gorry Fairhurst
=C2=A0 draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-u= dp
=C2=A0 (1) Does thi= s capture UDP API usage? (especially if you program=C2=A0
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 using UDP).=
=C2=A0 (2) What should/could= this ID say about multicast use of UDP?
=C2=A0 (3) Would the WG be happy to take this, or a futu= re revision of=C2=A0
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 this draft, as input to the current working group draf= t?

Constructing the minimal required TA= PS service set - Stein Gjessing
=C2=A0 draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01
=C2=A0 (1) How to give guidance to the applicatio= n?
=C2=A0 (2) What, ho= w and why put mechanisms under the hood?

=C2=A0 NEAT is an H2020-funded EU proj= ect that is developing a system=C2=A0
=C2=A0 which allows network =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D to b= e offered to applications=C2=A0
=C2=A0 based on their requirements and system policies. This will= include=C2=A0
=C2=A0 = an implementation of TAPS.=C2=A0 This is a work-in-progress and in early=C2= =A0
=C2=A0 stages of d= evelopment. However, we believe in open code and have=C2=A0
=C2=A0 therefore already made the NEA= T repository public. Suggestions,=C2=A0
=C2=A0 comments and patches are welcome on github. The NE= AT repository can=C2=A0
https://github.com/NEAT-project/neat

--001a11c011025cec1e052ecd2527-- From nobody Thu Mar 24 09:11:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: taps@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54D312DB5C for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:11:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.209 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.209 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uJzXkFWdi_Ov for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-out5.uio.no (mail-out5.uio.no [IPv6:2001:700:100:10::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A88C312DD5D for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-mx3.uio.no ([129.240.10.44]) by mail-out5.uio.no with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1aj7h4-0005MQ-0L for taps@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:01:06 +0100 Received: from 3.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no ([109.189.134.3] helo=[192.168.0.107]) by mail-mx3.uio.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) user michawe (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aj7h3-0008Sd-E7 for taps@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:01:05 +0100 From: Michael Welzl Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EA3BE1A1-195B-4F8E-81FB-DE537912A4FA" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:01:04 +0100 References: To: "taps@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-UiO-SPF-Received: X-UiO-Ratelimit-Test: rcpts/h 1 msgs/h 1 sum rcpts/h 5 sum msgs/h 4 total rcpts 39644 max rcpts/h 54 ratelimit 0 X-UiO-Spam-info: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-5.0, required=5.0, autolearn=disabled, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, TVD_RCVD_IP=0.001, UIO_MAIL_IS_INTERNAL=-5, uiobl=NO, uiouri=NO) X-UiO-Scanned: 147E661BF0FCDE4C795FB795E71B1317F9C7171D X-UiO-SPAM-Test: remote_host: 109.189.134.3 spam_score: -49 maxlevel 80 minaction 2 bait 0 mail/h: 1 total 564 max/h 14 blacklist 0 greylist 0 ratelimit 0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Taps] TAPS agenda for IETF-95 -revised- X-BeenThere: taps@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Transport Services List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EA3BE1A1-195B-4F8E-81FB-DE537912A4FA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, Regarding the first agenda item, one particular question that we=E2=80=99l= l want to discuss at the meeting is how to handle TLS/DTLS. If folks who = could contribute to that discussion would attend, that would be great. Cheers, Michael > On 24. mar. 2016, at 16.31, Aaron Falk wrote: >=20 > Doc 1a update - Naeem Khademi=20 > =E2=80=9COn the Usage of Transport Service Features Provided by IETF=20= > Transport Protocols=E2=80=9D > draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-00 > (1) Should (D)TLS be addressed? >=20 > UDP+UDP-L - Gorry Fairhurst > draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-udp > (1) Does this capture UDP API usage? (especially if you program=20 > using UDP). > (2) What should/could this ID say about multicast use of UDP? > (3) Would the WG be happy to take this, or a future revision of=20 > this draft, as input to the current working group draft? >=20 > Constructing the minimal required TAPS service set - Stein Gjessing > draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01 > (1) How to give guidance to the application? > (2) What, how and why put mechanisms under the hood? >=20 > NEAT: a project implementing TAPS - Michael Tuexen=20 > NEAT is an H2020-funded EU project that is developing a system=20 > which allows network =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D to be offered to = applications=20 > based on their requirements and system policies. This will include=20= > an implementation of TAPS. This is a work-in-progress and in early=20= > stages of development. However, we believe in open code and have=20 > therefore already made the NEAT repository public. Suggestions,=20 > comments and patches are welcome on github. The NEAT repository can=20= > be accessed here: https://github.com/NEAT-project/neat = >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Taps mailing list > Taps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/taps --Apple-Mail=_EA3BE1A1-195B-4F8E-81FB-DE537912A4FA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi all,

Regarding the first agenda item, one particular question that = we=E2=80=99ll want to discuss at the meeting is how to handle TLS/DTLS. = If folks who could contribute to that discussion would attend, that = would be great.

Cheers,
Michael



On = 24. mar. 2016, at 16.31, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:

Doc 1a update - Naeem Khademi 
  =E2=80=9C= On the Usage of Transport Service Features Provided by = IETF 
   Transport = Protocols=E2=80=9D
  = draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-00
  (1) Should (D)TLS be = addressed?

UDP+UDP-L - Gorry = Fairhurst
  = draft-fairhurst-taps-transports-usage-udp
  (1) = Does this capture UDP API usage? (especially if you = program 
      using UDP).
  (2) = What should/could this ID say about multicast use of = UDP?
  (3) Would the WG be happy to take this, or a future = revision of 
      this draft, as input to the = current working group draft?

Constructing = the minimal required TAPS service set - Stein Gjessing
  = draft-gjessing-taps-minset-01
  (1) How to give guidance = to the application?
  (2) What, how and why put mechanisms under = the hood?

NEAT: a project implementing = TAPS - Michael Tuexen 
  NEAT is an H2020-funded = EU project that is developing a system 
  which = allows network =E2=80=9Cservices=E2=80=9D to be offered to = applications 
  based on their requirements and system = policies. This will include 
  an implementation of = TAPS.  This is a work-in-progress and in = early 
  stages of development. However, we believe = in open code and have 
  therefore already made = the NEAT repository public. Suggestions, 
  = comments and patches are welcome on github. The NEAT repository = can 
  be accessed here: https://github.com/NEAT-project/neat

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