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In addition to the conference program with its 3 parallel tracks, 12 tutorials and 9 mini-conferences featuring hot topics in networking are scheduled. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Sat Apr 22 03:50:43 2000 Received: from lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.33]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA13839; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 03:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from listserv@localhost) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) id CAA10515 for tcpsat-outgoing; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:52:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov (firewall-user@guardian03.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.146.12]) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA10492 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: myzhai@990.net Received: by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov; id CAA01912; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 02:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(202.102.13.155) by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov via smap (V5.0) id xma001523; Sat, 22 Apr 00 02:50:48 -0400 Received: (fmail 8207 invoked by uid 1300); 22 Apr 2000 06:38:47 -0000 Date: 22 Apr 2000 06:38:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20000422063847.8206.fmail@990.net> Reply-To: myzhai@990.net To: tcpsat@grc.nasa.gov Subject: about wireless comm. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I have a question about wireless comm. to ask you.The problem is: if a wireless user, for example, a wireless phone user establishes a number of connections to a webserver at the same time, assumed three connections ,one bit rate is 1Mbps, one is 3Mbps and the third is 10Mbps.we only consider the condition that the last hop is wireless or the hop is satellite, then if there are losses occur on the wireless hop for example because of handoff or interference, I want to know do the three connections have the same loss rates(packets per second) under the same condition? How can we model the loss of wireless channel, random loss or bursty loss? thx Zhai __________________________________________________ 欢迎使用金陵热线免费电子邮件系统http://www.990.net From owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Sun Apr 23 12:02:48 2000 Received: from lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.33]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA08677; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from listserv@localhost) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) id KAA10098 for tcpsat-outgoing; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov (firewall-user@guardian03.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.146.12]) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10094 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: myzhai@990.net Received: by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov; id KAA29305; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(202.102.13.156) by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov via smap (V5.0) id xma028967; Sun, 23 Apr 00 10:54:50 -0400 Received: (fmail 27526 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Apr 2000 14:44:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000423144416.27525.fmail@990.net> Reply-To: myzhai@990.net To: tcpsat@grc.nasa.gov Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:38:47 +0800 Subject: about wireless comm. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I have a question about wireless comm. to ask you.The problem is: if a wireless user, for example, a wireless phone user establishes a number of connections to a webserver at the same time, assumed three connections ,one bit rate is 1Mbps, one is 3Mbps and the third is 10Mbps.we only consider the condition that the last hop is wireless or the hop is satellite, then if there are losses occur on the wireless hop for example because of handoff or interference, I want to know do the three connections have the same loss rates(packets per second) under the same condition? How can we model the loss of wireless channel, random loss or bursty loss? thx Zhai From owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Tue Apr 25 07:07:35 2000 Received: from lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.33]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA08574; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from listserv@localhost) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) id GAA20436 for tcpsat-outgoing; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov (firewall-user@guardian03.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.146.12]) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA20417 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov; id GAA09476; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from store.metrodata.co.uk(194.154.181.2) by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov via smap (V5.0) id xma009465; Tue, 25 Apr 00 06:07:40 -0400 Received: from poppadom.metrodata.co.uk (store.metrodata.co.uk [194.154.181.2]) by store.metrodata.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 2PK8SF8N; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:10:31 +0100 Message-ID: <00af01bfae9d$99a21ce0$47fe72c1@poppadom.metrodata.co.uk> Reply-To: "Mike Holdsworth" From: "Mike Holdsworth" To: Subject: Backhaul Of Asymmetric Internet Over Satellite Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:04:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, Finally I have finished my first draft of White Paper: 34/8Mbps Asymmetric Internet Backhaul and Extension. Its not that I'm busy, just lazy ;-). At the moment this has only the backhaul section, have yet to add the extension section. I am very keen on feedback as to what you guys/gals feel should be in it. Does anyone want a copy? The White Paper itself is pretty basic, dealing specifically with the backhaul of Asymmetric satellite networks across leased lines. There's a section in there about Internet Over Satellite and its history, then an intro to Satellite Equipment and Application Issues. After that its straight on to diagrams all of which are available in A4 Visio 2000. I split the applications as follows: 34/8Mbps with HSSI Satellite Modems, Over E3 34/8Mbps with HSSI Satellite Modems, Over DS3 34/8Mbps with BNC Satellite Modems, Over E3 34/8Mbps with BNC Satellite Modems, Over DS3 Cheers Mike ~~~~ Mike Holdsworth - Applications Engineer, Metrodata Ltd. Mailto: mike.holdsworth@metrodata.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1784 744 815 Mob: +44 (0)7887 983 374 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ++Satellite & Terrestrial Network Integration Products++ ==From BNC Sat Modem - HSSI Router Conversion== ====To Broadband Asymmetric Internet Extension==== ---------------------------------------------- Email to satellite@metrodata.co.uk for a copy of our NEW!! 34/8Mbps Asymmetric Internet Over Satellite Apps Note Or visit the website at http://www.metrodata.co.uk From owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Fri Apr 28 13:21:32 2000 Received: from lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.112.33]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA06603; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from listserv@localhost) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) id MAA11179 for tcpsat-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov (firewall-user@guardian03.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.146.12]) by lombok-fi.lerc.nasa.gov (NASA LeRC 8.9.1.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11090 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov; id MAA25235; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from store.metrodata.co.uk(194.154.181.2) by seraph3.lerc.nasa.gov via smap (V5.0) id xma025093; Fri, 28 Apr 00 12:16:24 -0400 Received: from poppadom.metrodata.co.uk (POPPADOM [193.114.254.71]) by store.metrodata.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id JYNGFDD1; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:18:56 +0100 Message-ID: <033001bfb12c$999ace40$47fe72c1@poppadom.metrodata.co.uk> Reply-To: "Mike Holdsworth" From: "Mike Holdsworth" To: Subject: 34/8Mbps White Paper - Feedback Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:12:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-tcpsat@lerc.nasa.gov Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Guys and Gals, I am totally overwhelmed with the response for the paper. Thankyou everybody and hope its useful. Its now uploaded to the web at www.metrodata.co.uk/satellite I'm on Annual Leave from Friday 28th April (totally forgotten in all the fun I've been having!!) until Wednesday May 17th. Please feel free to respond with your feedback (positive or otherwise!!) and I'll check through my emails when I get back. The next White Papers will be: Extension Of Asymmetric Internet Links Over Leased Lines Getting Routers Out Of Your Earth Station Multiple Service Aggregation* Broadcast Service Delivery *2 examples are: 1. Three 34/8Mbps services presented as HSSI or BNC transported across STM-1 (more across STM-4) ie Same service aggregated. 2. Four Broadcast Nx64kbps presented as RS449 + two Asymmetric Services presented as HSSI + one symmetric link presented as BNC. I will upload these onto the web as they are done. I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend(s). Regards Mike ~~~~ Mike Holdsworth - Applications Engineer, Metrodata Ltd. Mailto: mike.holdsworth@metrodata.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1784 744 815 Mob: +44 (0)7887 983 374 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ++Satellite & Terrestrial Network Integration Products++ ==From BNC Sat Modem - HSSI Router Conversion== ====To Broadband Asymmetric Internet Extension==== ---------------------------------------------- Email to satellite@metrodata.co.uk for a copy of our NEW!! 34/8Mbps Asymmetric Internet Over Satellite Apps Note Or visit the website at http://www.metrodata.co.uk/satellite