From nobody Wed Nov 19 11:15:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A551AD47E for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:15:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FDrOKN3Qn6tC for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 356461AD486 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sAJJFcAX023538 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:15:38 GMT Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id sAJJFbo5023528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:15:37 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:15:36 -0000 Message-ID: <036d01d0042d$3326bac0$99743040$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AdAELSl7b1VoPATHQKiAlLSHHnBD0A== Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1576-7.5.0.1018-21116.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--1.023-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--1.023-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: xsQGXiGsxCo1GNNcYTZ3yJ4CIKY/Hg3AtOt1ofVlaoJ1wPk/GHGZAwI/ +CyLz3dfklP9K0NxmNDdB/CxWTRRu4as+d5/8j56j2HvepvomBUJHZ8KXI8T4Q+HaUwqi/d922/ OyGpfKWlLIPMMdGsP3a9yxO5R6ODSiZDa+q6bAAVVQfzm8hzCuXYD/c2Xg/yR Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/elXt2wEtd2PgS_lKhZ9pjwdZMHE Subject: [Teas] Initial email to seed the archive X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:15:48 -0000 This is a first email to the TEAS mailing list to initiate the archive. From nobody Wed Nov 19 12:30:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2D71A6F22; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:22:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7DBxbnyg4brL; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:22:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACB71A1B82; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:22:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: IETF Announcement List X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141119202211.5915.48053.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:22:11 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/d7es3QwqVPV5eIiTqbyZpc5x6TM X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:30:30 -0800 Cc: lberger@labn.net, teas@ietf.org, db3546@att.com Subject: [Teas] New Non-WG Mailing List: Teas -- Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:22:16 -0000 A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: teas@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/teas/current/maillist.html To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas Purpose: This list is for the discussion of architectures for Traffic Engineered networks and for signaling techniques utilising RSVP-TE. For additional information, please contact the list administrators. From nobody Fri Nov 28 01:24:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFEB1A1ADD; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 01:24:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.209 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.209 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WGOEmm_LoOVo; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 01:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1975E1A1AF9; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 01:24:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown [144.160.229.24] (EHLO alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-7.2.2-0) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id a5f38745.0.7032278.00-2384.19799484.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:24:43 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 54783f5b38fd24a0-6db3dad5f7340b6c192ac6a1883a941d5f6f895b Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sAS9OfhV000595; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 04:24:42 -0500 Received: from mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com [130.9.128.241]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sAS9Oa9Y000567 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Nov 2014 04:24:38 -0500 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUBAF.ITServices.sbc.com (MISOUT7MSGHUBAF.itservices.sbc.com [130.9.129.150]) by mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (RSA Interceptor); Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:24:28 GMT Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSRDE.ITServices.sbc.com ([169.254.5.4]) by MISOUT7MSGHUBAF.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.9.129.150]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 04:24:28 -0500 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: TE Topology YANG Model Work Thread-Index: AdAK7Q+YSS5NPSwJRtiP5yEvNWYy6g== Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:24:27 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.47.123] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C816715D3BMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=Fq2yCRXq c=1 sm=1 a=dhB6nF3YHL5t/Ixux6cINA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=oQASVyGzVcYA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqp] X-AnalysisOut: [o32RAAAA:8 a=5y4faFyK3SkA:10 a=UkWLIDYav5TIAikMWuMA:9 a=Cj] X-AnalysisOut: [uIK1q_8ugA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=5Bdoco] X-AnalysisOut: [O31hphY62w:21] X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2014051901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.229.24] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/uHgrG5OuPyIKbGtlgjlMbhJTYaM Cc: "Rtg-yang-coord@ietf.org" , Lou Berger , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" Subject: [Teas] TE Topology YANG Model Work X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 09:24:44 -0000 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C816715D3BMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We wanted to let folks know about some pending activity on the TE yang mode= ls. The core of this work seems headed to the TEAS WG. In the interim, we a= re looking at establishing a short lived TE topology YANG model Design Team= . The goal of the DT will be to produce a consolidated draft in time for di= scussion in Dallas, with an expectation that the document will become a TEA= S WG draft post Dallas. The DT is expected to be composed of folks who are already contributing/act= ive in this area. (additional volunteers can let us know, off-list.) We also expect to announce an interim on this topic in the next few days. W= e're targeting this meeting for ~3 weeks+-. Deborah and Lou --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C816715D3BMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
We wanted to let folks know about some pending activity on the TE yang= models. The core of this work seems headed to the TEAS WG. In the interim,= we are looking at establishing a short lived TE topology YANG model Design= Team. The goal of the DT will be to produce a consolidated draft in time for discussion in Dallas, with an e= xpectation that the document will become a TEAS WG draft post Dallas.
 
The DT is expected to be composed of folks who are already contributin= g/active in this area. (additional volunteers can let us know, off-list.)
 
We also expect to announce an interim on this topic in the next few da= ys. We're targeting this meeting for ~3 weeks+-.
 
Deborah and Lou
 
 
 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C816715D3BMISOUT7MSGUSRDE_-- From nobody Fri Nov 28 08:32:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1CA1A7012; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:12:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8QnMa5j7gmyc; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229EE1A6FE6; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:12:51 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.7.4 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20141125211251.4012.31238.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:12:51 -0800 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/l39pbccCAdbFrbgrUdANE8JN5EE X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:32:29 -0800 Cc: teas WG Subject: [Teas] WG Review: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (teas) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:12:54 -0000 A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Routing Area. The IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2014-12-02. Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (teas) ------------------------------------------------ Current Status: Proposed WG Chairs: Deborah Brungard Lou Berger Assigned Area Director: Adrian Farrel Mailing list Address: teas@ietf.org To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/teas/ Charter: The Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (TEAS) Working Group is responsible for defining MPLS and GMPLS traffic engineering architecture, standardizing the RSVP-TE signaling protocol, and identifying required related control-protocol functions, i.e., routing and path computation element functions. Traffic Engineering (TE) is the term used to refer to techniques that enable operators to control how specific traffic flows are treated within their networks. TE is applied to packet networks via MPLS TE tunnels and LSPs. The MPLS-TE control plane was generalized to additionally support non-packet technologies via GMPLS. RSVP-TE is the signaling protocol used for both MPLS-TE and GMPLS. The TEAS WG is responsible for: a) Traffic-engineering architectures for generic applicability across packet and non-packet networks. This includes both networks that include the use of PCE and those that do not. The PCE architecture itself is out of the WG scope. b) Definition of protocol-independent metrics and parameters (measurement and/or service attributes) for describing links and tunnels/paths required for traffic engineering (and related routing, signaling and path computation). These will be developed in conjunction with requests and requirements from other WGs to ensure overall usefulness. c) Functional specification of extensions for routing (OSPF, ISIS) and for path computation (PCE) to provide general enablers of traffic-engineering systems that also use RSVP-TE. Protocol formats and procedures that embody these extensions will be done in coordination with the WGs supervising those protocols. d) Functional specification of generic (i.e., not data plane technology-specific) extensions for RSVP-TE, and the associated protocol formats and procedures that embody these extensions. e) Definition of control plane mechanisms and extensions to allow the setup and maintenance of TE paths and TE tunnels that span multiple domains and/or switching technologies, where a domain may be an IGP area, an Autonomous System, or any other region of topological visibility. f) Definition and extension of management and security techniques for RSVP-TE signaling. This includes configuring and monitoring RSVP-TE as well as mechanisms used to configure, control, and report OAM within TE networks. YANG and MIB modules may be considered. The TEAS working group is chartered to deliver the following: 1. Definition of additional abstract service, link, and path properties such as jitter, delay, and diversity. Extensions to IGPs to advertise these properties, and extensions to RSVP-TE to request and to accumulate these properties. Work with PCE WG to include these properties in computation requests. 2. Specification of terminology, architecture, and protocol requirements for abstraction and distribution of TE information between interconnected TE domains/layers. 3. Specification and protocol extensions for a GMPLS External Network-to-Network Interface (E-NNI), i.e., multi-domain GMPLS support. 4. Protocol mechanisms to signal associated LSPs in particular with different source nodes. 5. Requirements and protocol extensions for additional protection mechanisms including end-point protection, protection of P2MP LSPs, and inter-domain protection. 6. YANG models for a Traffic Engineering Database in coordination with working groups working on YANG models for network topology and for technology-specific network attributes. Requirements may be documented in stand-alone RFCs, may be folded into architecture or solutions RFCs, may be recorded on a wiki, or may be documented in an Internet-Draft that is not progressed to RFC. The TEAS WG will coordinate with the following working groups: - With the MPLS WG to maintain and extend MPLS-TE protocol mechanisms and to determine whether they should be generalized. - With the CCAMP WG to maintain and extend non-packet, data plane technology-specific TE protocol mechanisms and to determine whether they should be generalized. - With the OSPF and ISIS WGs to maintain or extend TE routing mechanisms for MPLS-TE and GMPLS. - With the PCE WG on uses of a PCE in the traffic-engineering architecture, on PCE extensions per the above, and on RSVP-TE extensions to support PCE WG identified requirements. - With the IDR WG on the use of BGP-LS in TE environments. In doing this work, the WG will cooperate with external SDOs (such as the ITU-T and the IEEE 802.1) as necessary. Milestones: TBD