From nobody Mon Feb 1 01:15:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4AB1B2F1A for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 01:14:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, FR_DOT_FEVER_5=3.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MMHtVW5qChYG for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4214C1B2F14 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 01:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from fr712umx4.dmz.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.245.210.45]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 37EC4130DC2C3; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:14:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.42]) by fr712umx4.dmz.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO-o) with ESMTP id u119EoAm004936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:14:50 GMT Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id u119EYZj019902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:14:49 +0100 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA05.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.1.11]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:14:44 +0100 From: "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" To: EXT Xufeng Liu , "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: Tunnel Termination Point in TE Topology Model Thread-Index: AdFcoEv0QKAswMF0RliH/ptr3+O6/QAKoDCw Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:14:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.38] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B9FEE68CE3A78C41A2B3C67549A96F48B7646A26FR711WXCHMBA05z_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Varma, Eve \(Nokia - US\)" , "Lam, Kam \(Nokia - US\)" Subject: Re: [Teas] Tunnel Termination Point in TE Topology Model X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 09:15:00 -0000 --_000_B9FEE68CE3A78C41A2B3C67549A96F48B7646A26FR711WXCHMBA05z_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI Cheers sergio From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of EXT Xufeng Liu Sent: luned=EC 1 febbraio 2016 04:33 To: TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) Subject: [Teas] Tunnel Termination Point in TE Topology Model Authors and contributors of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo are discussing the= topic to add Tunnel Termination Point (TTP) to the TE topology model. The = purpose is to provide useful information for path computation and tunnel se= tting up based on the topology. TTP also brings the relationship between TE= topology model and TE tunnel model. The related use cases include: 1) Setting up a WDM tunnel. When a tunnel is requested to be set up from the ingress to the egress, a p= ath is computed to consist of a sequence of TE links. At ingress, the WDM t= unnel needs to start from a WDM device rather than the end point of the fir= st link. There is relationship between this terminating WDM device and the = link end point. This WDM device is the Tunnel Termination Point (TTP). .............. ...........= ... . . . = . . +-o--o-+ . . +-o--o-+= . . | |*****************************************************| |= . . +-o--o-+ . . +-o--o-+= . . | . . | = . . | . . | = . . | . . | = . . +-o--o-+ . . +-o--o-+= . . | | . . | |= . . +-o--o-+ . ....... ....... ....... . +-o--o-+= . ........|..... . . . . . . .....|.....= ... +--------o o-----------o o---------o o--------+ ....... ....... ....... 2) Setting up an MPLS PSC tunnel on real nodes. When an MPLS PSC tunnel is set up from the ingress to the egress, the tunne= l is identified by . The ingres= s IP address is the Tunnel Termination Point (TTP). Additional TTP is not n= eeded in the model. However, to make the TTP concept generic, we can use th= e ingress IP address as the TTP in the ingress node. .............. ...........= ... . . . = . . ************************************************* = . . . . = . . +-o--o-+ . . +-o--o-+= . . | | . . | |= . . +-o--o-+ . ....... ....... ....... . +-o--o-+= . ........|..... . . . . . . .....|.....= ... +--------o o-----------o o---------o o--------+ ....... ....... ....... 3) Setting up a PSC tunnel on abstract nodes. When a PSC tunnel is requested to be set up from the ingress abstract node = to the egress abstract node, a path is computed to start and stop at abstra= ct nodes. The ingress abstract node represents a group of nodes. In such a = case, the tunnel starts from one particular node inside the abstract node, = and its IP address is the TTP in the ingress abstract node. .............. ...........= ... . ....... . . ....... = . . . . . . . . = . . . .*****************************************************. . = . . ....... . . ....... = . . | . . | = . . | . . | = . . ....... . . ....... = . . . . . . . . = . . . . . . . . = . . ...o... . ....... ....... ....... . ...o... = . .......|...... . . . . . . ......|....= ... +---------o o-----------o o---------o o---------+ ....... ....... ....... The proposed model addition is: augment /nw:networks/nw:network/nw:node: +--rw te! +--rw te-node-id te-node-id +--rw config | +--rw te-node-template* leafref {template}? | +--rw te-node-attributes +--ro state | +--ro te-node-template* leafref {template}? | +--ro te-node-attributes +--rw tunnel-termination-point* [tunnel-tp-id] +--rw tunnel-tp-id binary +--ro state +--ro switching-capability? identityref +--ro encoding? identityref +--ro termination-capability* [link-tp] +--ro link-tp leafref Any comments are welcome. Thanks, - Xufeng --_000_B9FEE68CE3A78C41A2B3C67549A96F48B7646A26FR711WXCHMBA05z_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI =

 

Cheers

sergio

 

From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of EXT Xufeng Liu
Sent: luned=EC 1 febbraio 2016 04:33
To: TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)
Subject: [Teas] Tunnel Termination Point in TE Topology Model

 

Authors and contributors of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo = are discussing the topic to add Tunnel Termination Point (TTP) to the TE to= pology model. The purpose is to provide useful information for path computation and tunnel setting up based on the topology. TTP also= brings the relationship between TE topology model and TE tunnel model.

 

The related use cases include:

 

1)   Setting up a WDM tunnel.=

When a tunnel is requested to be set up from the ingress = to the egress, a path is computed to consist of a sequence of TE links. At = ingress, the WDM tunnel needs to start from a WDM device rather than the end point of the first link. There is relationship = between this terminating WDM device and the link end point. This WDM device= is the Tunnel Termination Point (TTP).

 

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

   ..............     =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;    ..............

   .       &= nbsp;    .        &n= bsp;            &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;.            .

   .  +-o--o-+  .  =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;       .  +-o--o-+  .

   .  |      |***= **************************************************|    =   |  .

   .  +-o--o-+  .  =             &nb= sp;            =              &n= bsp;      .  +-o--o-+  .

   .       | = ;   .          =             &nb= sp;            =             . &= nbsp;  |       .

   .       | = ;   .          =             &nb= sp;            =             . &= nbsp;  |       .

   .       | = ;   .          =             &nb= sp;            =             . &= nbsp;  |       .

   .  +-o--o-+  .  =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;       .  +-o--o-+  .

   .  |      |&nb= sp; .           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;          .  | &nb= sp;    |  .

   .  +-o--o-+  .  = .......           ......= .         .......   .&nbs= p; +-o--o-+  .

   ........|.....   .  &nbs= p;  .           .&nb= sp;    .         .&n= bsp;    .   .....|........

         &nb= sp; +--------o     o-----------o   &= nbsp; o---------o     o--------+<= /p>

         &nb= sp;          ....... &nbs= p;         .......   = ;      .......   

 

 

 

2)   Setting up an MPLS PSC tunnel on real node= s.

When an MPLS PSC tunnel is set up from the ingress to the= egress, the tunnel is identified by <ingress-address, egress-address, t= unnel-id>. The ingress IP address is the Tunnel Termination Point (TTP). Additional TTP is not needed in the model. However, to make t= he TTP concept generic, we can use the ingress IP address as the TTP in the= ingress node.

 

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

   ..............     =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;    ..............

   .       &= nbsp;    .        &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            &nbs= p;.            .

   .       &= nbsp;    *************************************************&n= bsp;           .

   .       &= nbsp;    .        &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ; .            .

   .  +-o--o-+  .  =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;       .  +-o--o-+  .

   .  |      |&nb= sp; .           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;          .  | &nb= sp;    |  .

   .  +-o--o-+  .  = .......           ......= .         .......   .&nbs= p; +-o--o-+  .

   ........|.....   .  &nbs= p;  .           .&nb= sp;    .         .&n= bsp;    .   .....|........

         &nb= sp; +--------o     o-----------o   &= nbsp; o---------o     o--------+<= /p>

         &nb= sp;          ....... &nbs= p;         .......   = ;      .......   

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

 

         &nb= sp;             = ;   

3)   Setting up a PSC tunnel on abstract nodes.=

When a PSC tunnel is requested to be set up from the ingr= ess abstract node to the egress abstract node, a path is computed to start = and stop at abstract nodes. The ingress abstract node represents a group of nodes. In such a case, the tunnel starts from o= ne particular node inside the abstract node, and its IP address is the TTP = in the ingress abstract node.

 

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

   ..............     =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;    ..............

   .   .......  . &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;       .  .......   .

   .   .    = .  .           = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;           .  .&nbs= p;    .   .

   .   .     .***= **************************************************.    = .   .

   .   .......  .  &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =        .  .......   .

   .      |  = ;   .           = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;           . &= nbsp;   |      .

   .      |  = ;   .          =             &nb= sp;            =             . &= nbsp;   |      .

   .   .......  .  &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;            =        .  .......   .

   .   .     .&nb= sp; .           &nbs= p;             =             &nb= sp;         .  . &nb= sp;   .   .

   .   .     .&nb= sp; .           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;          .  . &nb= sp;   .   .

   .   ...o...  .   ..= .....           .......&n= bsp;        .......   .  = ...o...   .

   .......|......   .  &nbs= p;  .           .&nb= sp;    .         .&n= bsp;    .   ......|.......

          &#= 43;---------o     o-----------o    = o---------o     o---------+

         &nb= sp;          ....... &nbs= p;         .......   = ;      .......   

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

         &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;        

 

The proposed model addition is:

 

augment /nw:networks/nw:network/nw:node:

   +--rw te!

      +--rw te-node-id =             &nb= sp;    te-node-id

      +--rw config

      |  +--rw te-node-= template*     leafref {template}?

      |  +--rw te-node-= attributes

      +--ro state=

      |  +--ro te-node-= template*           leafr= ef {template}?

      |  +--ro te-node-= attributes

      +--rw tunnel-terminati= on-point* [tunnel-tp-id]

         +--r= w tunnel-tp-id    binary

         +--r= o state

         &nb= sp;  +--ro switching-capability?     identityr= ef

         &nb= sp;  +--ro encoding?       &nbs= p;         identityref

         &nb= sp;  +--ro termination-capability* [link-tp]

         &nb= sp;     +--ro link-tp    leafref

 

Any comments are welcome.

 

Thanks,

 

- Xufeng

 

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Mon, 1 Feb 2016 18:32:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 18:32:42 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: teas@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 02:32:42 -0000 Dear Adrian Farrel, John Drake, Dr. Nabil N. Bitar, George Swallow, Daniele Ceccarelli, Xian Zhang: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Problem Statement and Architecture for Information Exchange Between Interconnected Traffic Engineered Networks" (draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2745/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Tue Feb 2 08:58:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06F01B2D61; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 08:58:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I1_iVGIOSaMG; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 08:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CC071B2D31; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 08:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u12GwYAg028679; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 16:58:34 GMT Received: from 950129200 (genkt-051-249.t-mobile.co.uk [149.254.51.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u12GwWqn028639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Feb 2016 16:58:33 GMT From: "Adrian Farrel" To: References: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 16:58:32 -0000 Message-ID: <080501d15dda$f37f3970$da7dac50$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQE9YWcnSvmVf4/tKpVCphxHeZu1gKBA7Ejw Content-Language: en-gb X-TM-AS-MML: disable X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1679-8.0.0.1202-22108.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--12.457-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--12.457-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 8+bhjh9TQnEwJ6xbTjBa5hes/RxhysDbHQ+zIynnQ44wp/4s3hUlGFFF U1+kMyB9nK6NH0kJeVoWDiZuNZ5GFEZNovQjOho64RtSDjG+z7At0t+aIVLt+2mJ+7V5rRcziO9 fzG806wv2CA6nCFuMOI79apvZZOBwB4uNgLBEIwK5YHZkCjBFPcyZqgcnwGktut/GVGOoEncsk8 +mp2IupqISlj6EA9QBS7jWhMPv8kdbRbA/K/rHzMzWN98iBBeGix+K88kLVD3szSHnsvb4wViqA yk7LkbkxgY9KEtVbV+6FiTSuaSOn2e90Z2gWyxa5DSMPEZQAkPqecjpIr2SF1oFVE3QkZylU9a6 zfLFA1YRnrkKGK4/PF+24nCsUSFNt7DW3B48kkHdB/CxWTRRu25FeHtsUoHu7RrAXtTfMaH0JSH b/u5fvENsLC8sQKdpnCH7sJDPUFXFhXMjdQIJpg== Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 16:58:39 -0000 I'm always pleased to see IPR disclosed before last call even when the = disclosure is painfully late. In this case Rajan is named as a co-inventor on the patent application = (which I see at http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20140156751.pdf). This = patent application is dated June 5, 2014. Rajan first became listed as a Contributor to = draft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-exchange in revision -06 posted on = July 25, 2014. I may be a harsh judge, but this disclosure doesn't seem to me to have = been made "as soon as reasonably possible." That said, the cited patent application appears to describe a mechanism = for backwards recursive path computation using RSVP-TE signaling (which = is akin to a hybrid of RFC 5441 and RFC 4920). Such a mechanism is not = proposed or even mentioned in this document, so readers may draw their = own conclusions about the relevance of the disclosure. Lastly, I note that the license terms disclosed appear to follow the = "mutually assured destruction" terms commonly offered by IETF = participants. I do not propose any changes to this document resulting from this = disclosure. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: IETF Secretariat [mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org] > Sent: 02 February 2016 02:33 > To: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org > Cc: ipr-announce@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org > Subject: IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR = related to > draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange >=20 > Dear Adrian Farrel, John Drake, Dr. Nabil N. Bitar, George Swallow, = Daniele > Ceccarelli, Xian Zhang: >=20 >=20 > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled = "Problem > Statement and Architecture for Information Exchange Between = Interconnected > Traffic Engineered Networks" > (draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange) was submitted to the = IETF > Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual = Property > Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2745/). The = title of the > IPR disclosure is "Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related = to > draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange" >=20 >=20 > Thank you >=20 > IETF Secretariat From nobody Tue Feb 2 09:32:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120781B2DB7 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:32:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id li0c7I5tu073 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5662D1B2DB9 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18298 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2016 17:25:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2016 17:25:18 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw4 with id DVRA1s0012SSUrH01VRDZF; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 10:25:18 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=IekUBwaa c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=jFJIQSaiL_oA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=IoAkvDMQ5CEWXpr4yR0A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=enPoriMF8mEA:10 a=5gnG5JoyFR0A:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=xcJr1mW8Dh4N6quDP1sNilWPqsPeXUJKLPHYRpAtwTA=; b=eKBSkyPq/+TqxJ4d0CXOpN7qaL8b0fEwBt9fi2niok0c1v0jOVWOmXmS9EANZicgQ7mT5M072oEX/RAkvmjAnEfBaYuUdvrDdKgo1eKY4Wots5TmZZzF4cNji9bSBWnE; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:51418 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aQehR-0002qw-SN; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 10:25:09 -0700 To: Rajan Rao References: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Lou Berger X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56B0E66F.4050909@labn.net> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:25:03 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 17:32:00 -0000 Rajan, Thank you for the IPR disclosure. Can you point to the portion of the draft which has changed since you responded to the adoption IPR poll [1] to trigger the disclosure? For convenience, the difference in contents between [1] and now can be found at: https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-exchange-07.txt&url2=draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-03.txt Thank you, Lou (Chair and Shepherd) [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg16440.html On 2/1/2016 9:32 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: > Dear Adrian Farrel, John Drake, Dr. Nabil N. Bitar, George Swallow, Daniele Ceccarelli, Xian Zhang: > > > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Problem > Statement and Architecture for Information Exchange Between Interconnected > Traffic Engineered Networks" > (draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange) was submitted to the IETF > Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property > Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2745/). 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We revisited th= e list of IPRs based on IPR disclosure request from IETF and felt that it i= s related. Hence the disclosure. The trigger for disclosure is related to BRPC in Appendix A.3. Thx Rajan -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:25 AM To: Rajan Rao Cc: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org= ; ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about I= PR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange Rajan, Thank you for the IPR disclosure.=20 Can you point to the portion of the draft which has changed since you resp= onded to the adoption IPR poll [1] to trigger the disclosure?=20 For convenience, the difference in contents between [1] and now can be foun= d at: =20 https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-e= xchange-07.txt&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-03.tx= t Thank you, Lou (Chair and Shepherd) [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg16440.html On 2/1/2016 9:32 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: > Dear Adrian Farrel, John Drake, Dr. Nabil N. Bitar, George Swallow, Danie= le Ceccarelli, Xian Zhang: > > > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled=20 > "Problem Statement and Architecture for Information Exchange Between=20 > Interconnected Traffic Engineered Networks" > (draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange) was submitted to the=20 > IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of=20 > Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"=20 > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2745/). The title of the IPR=20 > disclosure is "Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draf= t-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange" > > > Thank you > > IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Tue Feb 2 14:20:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59A41A00FE for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:20:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RxNI-SLiyeBI for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F88F1A00FC for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10682 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2016 22:20:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2016 22:20:21 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id DaLG1s00M2SSUrH01aLKRw; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:20:20 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=FuSWoQbq c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=jFJIQSaiL_oA:10 a=CzjZfWBOAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=jFX1XpfVJEhkSlSNtAUA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=pUgo+LM6ffl1jSVYE8/cW4P5nwgtIcF0NpkG/kUtBBQ=; b=zQFtyAPRrcgOQpO90anWqTEiDZaPufK2ZQ1z2HhMkBQucg69sWvgAtek+D5XehhBmnpGBEnD6r3f2wDQum/jhUZWBpIAPT4BGh7S44x+AZaylIWhLxou39Uki1pkfgHP; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:36760 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aQjJ3-0006OB-EC; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:20:17 -0700 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk, teas@ietf.org References: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <080501d15dda$f37f3970$da7dac50$@olddog.co.uk> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <56B12B9B.7010105@labn.net> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 17:20:11 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <080501d15dda$f37f3970$da7dac50$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 22:20:23 -0000 Adrian/All, Please discuss the disclosure and additional information provided by Rajan to the group as you see fit -- both now and during LC. Without regard to contents, I note that IPR was also been disclosed on "The Backward-Recursive PCE-Based Computation (BRPC) mechanism", RFC5441, back in 2007. Lou On 2/2/2016 11:58 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > I'm always pleased to see IPR disclosed before last call even when the disclosure is painfully late. > > In this case Rajan is named as a co-inventor on the patent application (which I see at http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20140156751.pdf). This patent application is dated June 5, 2014. > > Rajan first became listed as a Contributor to draft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-exchange in revision -06 posted on July 25, 2014. > > I may be a harsh judge, but this disclosure doesn't seem to me to have been made "as soon as reasonably possible." > > That said, the cited patent application appears to describe a mechanism for backwards recursive path computation using RSVP-TE signaling (which is akin to a hybrid of RFC 5441 and RFC 4920). Such a mechanism is not proposed or even mentioned in this document, so readers may draw their own conclusions about the relevance of the disclosure. > > Lastly, I note that the license terms disclosed appear to follow the "mutually assured destruction" terms commonly offered by IETF participants. > > I do not propose any changes to this document resulting from this disclosure. > > Adrian > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IETF Secretariat [mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org] >> Sent: 02 February 2016 02:33 >> To: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org >> Cc: ipr-announce@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org >> Subject: IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange >> >> Dear Adrian Farrel, John Drake, Dr. Nabil N. Bitar, George Swallow, Daniele >> Ceccarelli, Xian Zhang: >> >> >> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Problem >> Statement and Architecture for Information Exchange Between Interconnected >> Traffic Engineered Networks" >> (draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange) was submitted to the IETF >> Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property >> Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2745/). The title of the >> IPR disclosure is "Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to >> draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange" >> >> >> Thank you >> >> IETF Secretariat > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Tue Feb 2 14:41:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A96D1A016B for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:41:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CbyeKioY-KVj for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 557B21A0141 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 316 invoked by uid 0); 2 Feb 2016 22:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2016 22:14:37 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id DaEY1s00N2SSUrH01aEbwT; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:14:35 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=dqRIVTQ4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=jFJIQSaiL_oA:10 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=EeMhvEcYAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=6n4r87W9uHZnviZBxOwA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=enPoriMF8mEA:10 a=5gnG5JoyFR0A:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject; bh=Z0y3g9fEdcRYgu07bRJ3Rtkn9cc5YBk6cvXPyEoimqg=; b=oeN5ctxxnReJx+ACf1w0BwBhH7ngdkabr1xiYPMQzNTmApF6eCVgRu2drbmKRwTgq8q8+ysuT0430CiDE9muV9oHmGoZTKkD3+qhNpQTjkPOp28qDStXxsHQhuccqLO3; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:35436 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aQjDV-0005F5-S9; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 15:14:33 -0700 To: Rajan Rao References: <20160202023242.18090.31943.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <56B0E66F.4050909@labn.net> <64aaed6b30b14bfea6491546e9eefe55@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <56B12A45.5050201@labn.net> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 17:14:29 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <64aaed6b30b14bfea6491546e9eefe55@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: Khuzema Pithewan , "draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org" , Snigdho Bardalai , "teas@ietf.org" , "ipr-announce@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 22:41:18 -0000 Rajan, Thank you again for the disclosure and providing the additional information. Lou On 2/2/2016 4:54 PM, Rajan Rao wrote: > Lou, > > There is no specific change that triggered the disclosure. We revisited the list of IPRs based on IPR disclosure request from IETF and felt that it is related. Hence the disclosure. > > The trigger for disclosure is related to BRPC in Appendix A.3. > > Thx > Rajan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:25 AM > To: Rajan Rao > Cc: draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange@ietf.org; teas@ietf.org; ipr-announce@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Teas] IPR Disclosure Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange > > Rajan, > > Thank you for the IPR disclosure. > > Can you point to the portion of the draft which has changed since you responded to the adoption IPR poll [1] to trigger the disclosure? > > For convenience, the difference in contents between [1] and now can be found at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-exchange-07.txt&url2=draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-03.txt > > Thank you, > Lou > (Chair and Shepherd) > > [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg16440.html > > On 2/1/2016 9:32 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: >> Dear Adrian Farrel, John Drake, Dr. Nabil N. Bitar, George Swallow, Daniele Ceccarelli, Xian Zhang: >> >> >> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled >> "Problem Statement and Architecture for Information Exchange Between >> Interconnected Traffic Engineered Networks" >> (draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange) was submitted to the >> IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF Page of >> Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" >> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2745/). The title of the IPR >> disclosure is "Infinera Corporation's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange" >> >> >> Thank you >> >> IETF Secretariat >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Teas mailing list >> Teas@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >> > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Tue Feb 2 18:42:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3AC1B2CC6; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:42:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160203024242.28748.8879.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 18:42:42 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: Deborah Brungard , Alia Atlas , Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List , JP Vasseur , Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Discussion List , Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Path Computation Element Discussion List , David Sinicrope , jonathan.hardwick@metaswitch.com, Alvaro Retana , lberger@labn.net, zhangfatai@huawei.com, Daniele Ceccarelli , julien.meuric@orange.com Subject: [Teas] New Liaison Statement, "Response to 18 Dec 2016 liaison concerning: Achieving Packet Network Optimization using DWDM Interfaces" X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 02:42:42 -0000 Title: Response to 18 Dec 2016 liaison concerning: Achieving Packet Network Optimization using DWDM Interfaces Submission Date: 2016-02-02 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1454/ From: "David Sinicrope" To: michael.fargano@centurylink.com Cc: Alvaro Retana ,Deborah Brungard ,Julien Meuric ,David Sinicrope ,Jonathan Hardwick ,Fatai Zhang ,Path Computation Element Discussion List ,Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Discussion List ,Vishnu Pavan Beeram ,Alia Atlas ,Daniele Ceccarelli ,Lou Berger ,Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List ,JP Vasseur , Response Contacts: vbeeram@juniper.net, lberger@labn.net, jonathan.hardwick@metaswitch.com, jpv@cisco.com, julien.meuric@orange.com, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, zhangfatai@huawei.com Technical Contacts: Purpose: In response Referenced liaison: Achieving Packet Network Optimization using DWDM Interfaces (https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1449/) Body: The TEAS, PCE and CCAMP Working Groups would again like to thank the Broadband Forum for informing us of your effort on packet-optical networks, and providing the IETF with the opportunity to review and comment on your document and its use of IETF RFCs. As offered, we have conducted a more in depth review on the revised draft you provided in your liaison on 18-Dec-2015. Please find the comments and feedback below for your consideration. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact the respective WG Chairs, or send email to the respective WG email lists. Also please keep us informed of any gaps you identify in the RFCs that are needed to satisfy the requirements in your specifications. Your feedback is greatly appreciated and can also be provided via the relevant IETF WG email list without the need for a formal liaison. We look forward to our continued communication on this important area of work. Sincerely, TEAS, PCE and CCAMP WG Chairs ——— Comments and feedbacks received from WG participants: * In WT-319 Part-B is mentioned the fully separated solution while in TR-319 the fully integrated DWDM interface in the client equipment. * The two solutions can signal on the UNI interface different service request (Ethernet or OTN in the former, optical channel in the latter) * It would be nice to see also the Hybrid solution to be supported (i.e. Fully integrated on one side of the circuit and fully separated on the other side). * Although are not yet published as RFC there are two drafts that may be relevant and have been submitted for publication to the IESG: * RSVP-TE Extensions for Collecting SRLG Information, draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect . This draft supports the collection of LSP SRLGs in the core and sharing the list to the Edge. * Domain Subobjects for Resource ReserVation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE), draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects. Which extends inclusion and exclusion semantics in a way that is likely to be of interest to BBF use casess. * The usage of SNMP for the network provisioning and deployment should be discouraged. In addition to that existing RFCs do not cover the provisioning of the colored side of an optical interface. Yang models to provision colored interfaces have been submitted to the IETF but have not been accepted yet, however the CCAMP WG is in the process of starting the adoption process of “A framework for Management and Control of DWDM optical interface parameters” (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kdkgall-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-01) * the level of details does not look consistent along the text, e.g.: - for RSVP-TE, LSP encoding/SC/G-PID are specified, but the label itself is limited to "the Generalized Label represents a generic MPLS label", where the last phrase puzzles me, especially in this context of DCSC; - LMP is mentioned, but considering the number of feature it can bring, I would expect a bit more about it; - about PCEP: it is required in section 4.2 but its use is not defined; it is also mentioned in section 4.4 along with SDN, but the appropriate reference should include "draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce" on top of RFC 5440, and possibly even "draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp". * Just a suggestion: It would be nice not to limit the Client interface (Dd) to Ethernet or OTN. Also Data center interfaces may be supported (like Fiber Channel). * I note that you are stating that RFC2205 format TSPEC and FLOWSPEC are to be used. I recommend using RFC6003 Ethernet Traffic Parameters for LSPs carrying Ethernet Services, e.g., such as those discussed in RFC6004, and RFC7139 G.709 OTN TDM Traffic Parameters for LSPs carrying OTN Services. * Page 17, r-14. Does this requirement mean RFC3209 is used as a foundation to R-15 or that RFC3209 is used to signal the LSPs? If the former, the requirement is unnecessary and misleading and should be dropped. If the latter, this is inconsistent with signaling Ethernet or OTN GMPLS LSPs. * R-17, the specific required timers should be identified. * Message ID and reliable delivery defined in Rfc2961 are supported by GMPLS implementations. You may wish to make this a recommendation or requirement. * You may wish to add that RESCONF is for further study at the end of section 4.3.2.1 Attachments: No document has been attached From nobody Tue Feb 2 21:58:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD241A1E0B; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 21:58:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dKkr4tM19vwk; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 21:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lxomp52w.centurylink.com (lxomp52w.centurylink.com [155.70.50.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No 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disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules Khuzema -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:48 AM To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; jdrake@juniper.ne= t; nabil.bitar@verizon.com; swallow@cisco.com; cyril.margaria@googlemail.co= m; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; ggrammel@juniper.net; jeff.tantsura@ericsso= n.com; Khuzema Pithewan; ogondio@tid.es; Rajan Rao; sergio.belotti@alcatel-= lucent.com; vbeeram@juniper.net; vlopez@tid.es; zali@cisco.com; zhang.xian@= huawei.com; zhangfatai@huawei.com Cc: TEAS WG Chairs; TEAS WG Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exc= hange Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? 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Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 AquaMail/1.6.0.10 (build: 24000016) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 100.15.91.238 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] comment on draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2016 11:58:56 -0000 Greg, Thank you for looking at this. See below. On February 4, 2016 2:11:12 AM Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > I've followed on your suggestion to investigate use of already available > objects. I’ve looked into LSP_ATTRIBUTES Object [RFC5420]. Per my analysis > we can consider two options: > • introduce RSO sub-objects with RTM_Capability sub-TLVs ordered as > defined in the current RTM draft, to be used in LSP_ATTRIBUTES Object; Given 5420 is silent on TLV ordering, I think you need a single RTM Attributes TLV, which contains your sub objects carried as sub-tlvs. I think the new TLV could be allowed in both LSP_ATTRIBUTES and LSP_REQUIRED_ATTRIBUTES objects to cover when RTM is optional/required e2e. Just LSP_ATTRIBUTES would be equivalent to what you currently define. > • use RRO Attributes sub-object that will be present in RRO Object > and define new RTM Capability Flag(s) from IANA Attribute Flags registry. > Rules defined in Section 7.3 RFC 5420 would apply. > Number of Attribute flags is variable, thus the latter option is as > flexible as the former or current option documented in our draft. > I ruled out the second option in my earlier email as I generally consider RROs a weak approach to supporting LSP control (since they are subject to all sorts of generally policy related processing and are 'at risk' in large messages.) That said, the introduction of address to this object does required a note in the document on the policy implications, e.g., that processing at boundaries such as envisioned in rfc4208 may require rro-like policy processing. But this doesn't change my feeling that piggybacking control on RRO is generally a 'bad idea'. Lou > Greatly appreciate your consideration, comments, suggestions. > > Regards, > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 10:38 PM > To: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org > Subject: comment on draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time > > Hi, > I see you propose defining a new RSVP object class that has application > specific scope. As I'm sure you know the RSVP class-number space is really > small so it's best to avoid allocating new object classes whenever > possible. I believe there is an existing object class that you can use for > your purposes -- the LSP_ATTRIBUTES object. > > Have you considered carrying RTM Hops in 1 (or three, depending on if you > want sub-tlvs or not) new RTM Attribute TLV (or TLVs)? > > If not, I think it is worth exploring the viability of this approach or any > other approach that doesn't require the allocation of a new class-num. > > Lou > (As contributor and TEAS co-chair) > From nobody Thu Feb 4 15:05:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323AD1B3399 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:05:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WNt_YuvhC_12 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00191d01.pphosted.com [67.231.157.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD4981B3398 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2016 15:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0049462.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0049462.ppops.net-00191d01. 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Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:37:26 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Fri, 5 Feb 2016 10:37:26 -0600 From: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: ID Tracker State Update Notice: Thread-Index: AQHRX54LUC+kY13snkSCK6u1M1jt8J8c5kKAgADBZDA= Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 16:37:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160204224735.13736.55213.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.86.249.49] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "Matt Hartley \(mhartley\)" Subject: Re: [Teas] ID Tracker State Update Notice: X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2016 16:37:29 -0000 Thanks, Deborah. Yes, I should have a new version out soon. Cheers Matt > Hi TEAS, >=20 > Due to the length of time from when this document was IETF Last Called > (September), the document still has not been updated, and there are quite > a few changes, I am sending it back to the Working Group and recommending > that it have another WG Last Call. >=20 > I hope that you are able to quickly complete it- > Thanks- > Deborah >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: IETF Secretariat [mailto:ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 5:48 PM > To: teas-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect@ietf.org; > BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A ; vbeeram@juniper.net > Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: collect-02.txt> >=20 > IESG state changed to AD is watching from Expert Review ID Tracker URL: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Feb 8 11:11:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD481B31D2; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 11:11:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160208191138.9006.61761.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:11:38 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:11:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling of the IETF. Title : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) extension for recording TE Metric of a Label Switched Path Authors : Zafar Ali George Swallow Clarence Filsfils Matt Hartley Kenji Kumaki Deutsche Telekom AG Filename : draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2016-02-08 Abstract: There are many scenarios in which Traffic Engineering (TE) metrics such as cost, Delay and Delay variation associated with the TE link formed by Label Switched Path (LSP) are not available to the ingress and egress nodes. This draft provides extensions for the Resource ReserVation Protocol- Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support automatic collection of cost, Delay and Delay variation information for the TE link formed by a LSP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Feb 8 11:19:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9F41B31D3; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 11:19:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xncLC7gZzF-q; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 11:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D806F1ACEEA; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 11:19:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2335; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1454959156; x=1456168756; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=XeagIzX3SW1yVudqA2gmmvUIioVvIWVFY/hZarjY/qA=; b=l+ROzzsao+lhN+Ji2yPds4SY/t9y9/+VyZ0KPe1p0E8ZlClt3nMX/5aE t9t3UzNDl+NNOWl6HSTmnvXPRZAx6gPisw/YDIKXn58LOmQ3Lw79dVrH0 gg/EqP/JS4lAtXOhomvJnh/Sl94cULDryNt7H1FZWizNKOLv4Pa8VG3Kf o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0D1AQBl6bhW/5xdJa1egzpSbQaIVbEOA?= =?us-ascii?q?Q2BZhcMhWoCgS84FAEBAQEBAQGBCoRCAQEEAQEBawsQAgEIEjQnCxcOAgQBDQW?= =?us-ascii?q?IGw69XQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARWGEoQ3iGwFlnUBhUuIBIFbSoN5i?= =?us-ascii?q?FWFbohPAR4BAUKDZGqHV3wBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.22,417,1449532800"; d="scan'208";a="71352164" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 08 Feb 2016 19:19:16 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-017.cisco.com (xch-rtp-017.cisco.com [64.101.220.157]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u18JJFnH018397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 8 Feb 2016 19:19:15 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com (64.101.220.158) by XCH-RTP-017.cisco.com (64.101.220.157) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 14:19:14 -0500 Received: from xch-rtp-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) by XCH-RTP-018.cisco.com ([64.101.220.158]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Mon, 8 Feb 2016 14:19:15 -0500 From: "Zafar Ali (zali)" To: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" , "i-d-announce@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHRYqSfWkB1ISkXRUeG6RDl9FNoJZ8iheUA Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 19:19:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160208191138.9006.61761.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20160208191138.9006.61761.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.8.151023 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.24.177.210] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "teas@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:19:18 -0000 Dear Chairs and the WG: This is a simple refresh. We plan to update this draft to align with SRLG recording draft before the LC/ next IETF. Thanks Regards =8A Zafar (and co-authors) On 2/8/16, 2:11 PM, "Teas on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. >This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and >Signaling of the IETF. > > Title : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic >Engineering (RSVP-TE) extension for recording TE Metric of a Label >Switched Path > Authors : Zafar Ali > George Swallow > Clarence Filsfils > Matt Hartley > Kenji Kumaki > Deutsche Telekom AG > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2016-02-08 > >Abstract: > There are many scenarios in which Traffic Engineering (TE) metrics > such as cost, Delay and Delay variation associated with the TE link > formed by Label Switched Path (LSP) are not available to the > ingress and egress nodes. This draft provides extensions for the > Resource ReserVation Protocol- Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to > support automatic collection of cost, Delay and Delay variation > information for the TE link formed by a LSP. > > =20 > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording/ > >There's also a htmlized version available at: >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-03 > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >submission >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >_______________________________________________ >Teas mailing list >Teas@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Wed Feb 10 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List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 00:50:43 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling of the IETF. Title : RSVP-TE Signaling Procedure for End-to-End GMPLS Restoration and Resource Sharing Authors : Xian Zhang Haomian Zheng Rakesh Gandhi Zafar Ali Gabriele Maria Galimberti Pawel Brzozowski Filename : draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2016-02-10 Abstract: In transport networks, there are requirements where Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) end-to-end recovery scheme needs to employ restoration Label Switched Path (LSP) while keeping resources for the working and/or protecting LSPs reserved in the network after the failure occurs. This document reviews how the LSP association is to be provided using Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling in the context of GMPLS end-to-end recovery scheme when using restoration LSP where failed LSP is not torn down. In addition, this document discusses resource sharing-based setup and teardown of LSPs as well as LSP reversion procedures for transport networks. No new signaling extensions are defined by this document, and it is strictly informative in nature. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Feb 11 04:07:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7977B1B29F6; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:07:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EKpCNepLyThG; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ig0-x229.google.com (mail-ig0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21C201B29E6; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ig0-x229.google.com with SMTP id y8so4010004igp.1; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:07:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=p2zpU8rfhGglf/39l6N6a75kAxljL7YmXi/sgOE0f1w=; b=QJxTygoPHZJHlGdjsTNOs37rEd52aFj8YSdqrK4/X1Os4xsSZQK89rkUhvYMMjUXA9 zboO0L+g4PaZeqGr7KQTqPp4q3qJh4P+I+yvkB0QlE8V0Cjer8ZX5euMVC6hrhwbpl6X udXi9jUoFOkR7XUxxuCuWtmHt64KjqATef144IfZN2aaYvM3HvSwOwfKoFltX/rkOyfd LGjf//sTYT92JO/kOyqFtmXiXBEs1MszypNZ286CmQxCdif6HbNeSX7Po7y+0f4ClPUk B4/S+Pm21ld1PtV+V+dDeJ2O4bkGHhRAJlbssLNZFp4t2vyydj9jadnpk+lmnlHm6y5T 84xw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=p2zpU8rfhGglf/39l6N6a75kAxljL7YmXi/sgOE0f1w=; b=JX7Wceys1KoDvSXRmcCP5kjB5UJA9YptXNyXVOzwq5ITAFHUx1ephACEhk7JoYjaT/ qw7f9IDstIAr5Gi/8YavrgaTx+FV0vuR6+led4b9mVCQe3iBe3TI6LTPwHt2VdwR4Tsd uX7uhV94ryPlQ8KyCbNcTGf+fOvYX8gFZOvLWdaNq9lwQgs/8+DRHNvyM84qJ4Z+9fTG a5vA7IYQN6PSxPmXdoO96rs5MEwPZkovvOxtAakgmL0miuWZ2dgAN0yXDVMdVucjh5NY nMs5ONtVn4KRiEGOc990Bdu7xM7EX7nZqXl1kntxeskyKgcByRkdtk0Jt7mIZ9yy3FOM lFIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOREPbXuPOg3Y00LITltDoPCbCbw5gA+a93L5SYIJVo+AJnROYB4pP8IN6lhCvlE77PapWIW9gBa4g/q/A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.13.36 with SMTP id e4mr8328571igc.97.1455192455445; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.95.208 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:07:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160211005043.8043.96110.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20160211005043.8043.96110.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 07:07:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Rakesh Gandhi To: draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118478463047f052b7d654d Archived-At: Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:07:38 -0000 --089e0118478463047f052b7d654d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi WG, The document is updated to avoid expiration and fix a neat. We believe the document is ready for WG LC. Your review comments are welcome. Thanks, Rakesh (on behalf of authors) On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 7:50 PM, wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling of the IETF. > > Title : RSVP-TE Signaling Procedure for End-to-End GMPLS > Restoration and Resource Sharing > Authors : Xian Zhang > Haomian Zheng > Rakesh Gandhi > Zafar Ali > Gabriele Maria Galimberti > Pawel Brzozowski > Filename : > draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2016-02-10 > > Abstract: > In transport networks, there are requirements where Generalized > Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) end-to-end recovery scheme > needs to employ restoration Label Switched Path (LSP) while keeping > resources for the working and/or protecting LSPs reserved in the > network after the failure occurs. > > This document reviews how the LSP association is to be provided using > Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) > signaling in the context of GMPLS end-to-end recovery scheme when > using restoration LSP where failed LSP is not torn down. In > addition, this document discusses resource sharing-based setup and > teardown of LSPs as well as LSP reversion procedures for transport > networks. No new signaling extensions are defined by this document, > and it is strictly informative in nature. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --089e0118478463047f052b7d654d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi WG,

The document is updated to a= void expiration and fix a neat.

We believe the document = is ready for WG LC. Your review comments are welcome.

Thanks,
Rakesh (on behalf of authors)


On Wed, Feb 1= 0, 2016 at 7:50 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote= :

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= RSVP-TE Signaling Procedure for End-to-End GMPLS Restoration and Resource = Sharing
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Xian= Zhang
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Haomian Zheng
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rakesh Gandhi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Zafar Ali
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gabriele Maria Galimberti
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pawel Brzozowski
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 14
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2016-02-10

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0In transport networks, there are requirements where Generalize= d
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) end-to-end recovery sch= eme
=C2=A0 =C2=A0needs to employ restoration Label Switched Path (LSP) while ke= eping
=C2=A0 =C2=A0resources for the working and/or protecting LSPs reserved in t= he
=C2=A0 =C2=A0network after the failure occurs.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document reviews how the LSP association is to be provide= d using
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Resource Reservation Protocol - Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE)<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0signaling in the context of GMPLS end-to-end recovery scheme w= hen
=C2=A0 =C2=A0using restoration LSP where failed LSP is not torn down.=C2=A0= In
=C2=A0 =C2=A0addition, this document discusses resource sharing-based setup= and
=C2=A0 =C2=A0teardown of LSPs as well as LSP reversion procedures for trans= port
=C2=A0 =C2=A0networks.=C2=A0 No new signaling extensions are defined by thi= s document,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and it is strictly informative in nature.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.iet= f.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/htm= l/draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.o= rg/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-gmpls-resource-sharing-proc-04


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
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--089e0118478463047f052b7d654d-- From nobody Fri Feb 12 10:37:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794AE1A8846; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:37:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.14.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160212183711.19538.42085.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:37:11 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:37:11 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling of the IETF. Title : RSVP-TE Extensions for Collecting SRLG Information Authors : Fatai Zhang Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Matt Hartley Zafar Ali Cyril Margaria Filename : draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-03.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2016-02-12 Abstract: This document provides extensions for the Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE), including GMPLS, to support automatic collection of Shared Risk Link Group (SRLG) information for the TE link formed by a Label Switched Path (LSP). 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Feb 12 21:45:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D371B2C9C; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 21:45:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jJ7S9HuCBxx2; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 21:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E8E61B2C9E; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 21:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.13] (unknown [49.149.199.218]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29D63180137F; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 06:45:06 +0100 (CET) References: <56B496CD.7020107@pi.nu> To: "pce@ietf.org" , TEAS WG , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "pals@ietf.org" From: Loa Andersson X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <56B496CD.7020107@pi.nu> Message-ID: <56BEC2DB.9030700@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:44:59 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56B496CD.7020107@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Fwd: [mpls] discussion on a common top for yang models related to MPLS X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 05:45:12 -0000 Working Groups, This mail was sent on the mpls wg mailing list to trigger a discussion. It hs been pointed out that participants in other wg's might also be interested to contribute to this discussion. I therefore forward to the most likely wg's. Plese remember that the discussion is intended to take place on the mpls wg list (mpls@ietf.org). /Loa -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [mpls] discussion on a common top for yang models related to MPLS Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 20:34:21 +0800 From: Loa Andersson To: mpls@ietf.org All, We have had discussion among the MPLS, TEAS and CCAMP working group chairs - but as individual contributors, with chair half off. We agree that this discussion should be taken to the working group(s). The YANG models for MPLS and GMPLS are quite rapidly taking shape. MPLS and GMPLS technologies have traditionally been very close, but their development has been a bit disjoint. For the YANG models we would like to minimize duplication of models/work and think the structure should have a common the top, with specific technologies augmented below. The structure in general as well as the YANG model at the common top needs to be the generic and aligned across the output of at least CCAMP, MPLS and TEAS working groups. There has been good work progressing on TE specifics, e.g., see draft-ietf-teas-yang-te, but other areas remain. On the LDP side of the house draft-raza-mpls- ldp-mldp-yang is rapidly progressing towards working group adoption. The models defined in draft-saad-mpls-static-yang could serve as the start on filling some of the remaining gaps; covering core xMPLS definitions and static LSPs. There are a number of ways to make the structure intuitive and generic, and serve as a foundation for technology specific models. -- This effort can be viewed as the same type of work that was done for TE, see draft-ietf-teas-yang-te. We think it would be a good idea if the authors and the WG considers how to structure xMPLS definitions and static LSPs models to best foster common use across the different related models being worked on across different WGs. We are sending this mail in hopes of getting this discussion started. Thank you, Lou and Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Thu Feb 18 07:59:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDAE1B29E5; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:58:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9ydwjeTIj3Hm; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from usplmg20.ericsson.net (usplmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDE5F1AD2F6; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 07:58:56 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c618062d-f79dd6d000003091-e7-56c5e65dfea4 Received: from EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.93]) by usplmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B3.EB.12433.D56E5C65; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:42:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0248.002; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:58:55 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Lou Berger , "draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHRZbUWrfU5OoCxqUS1QoJoo38/2J8u5z+AgAMTecA= Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:58:54 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC2B7@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <20160212164658.3794.95121.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <152e9e58c28.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <152e9e58c28.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC2B7eusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA12SfUhTURjGO9u9d1dtcJqz3tSkhv1RaZZEjD6lT02KqBhUZI26pLXm2GZk QS1qYbPC0iHdmrNSZ8v8HoqzJN0s+5oVRJkVpkla2gdUrrLadgxG//3e9zznPM/7clihxMVE shlqPadVK1UyJpTKz2reFp/W71bMOWeIkPddfEbJ2zrviuQ5x4YoeVfpVVpuHGmkkujkkhKv IPlT7TFmvWBL6KJdnCpjP6dNWLIjNL3hvoHRWNYdOFr4XGhA/ctNKIQFPA8qbV6K8ETofFXF mFAoK8EuBEW9dyhS2BDkPiij/SoGJ8K7mlMiP0vxAXjosCM/C3EGdNQN+m6zbDheCY31G4lk FXxucwoIL4CHddUBOYWnQ3tBQ0AuxmvhlmWZvy3BR+CawxZoh+AUeJkb5m8jX7TvdysExGgS dPVZBSSyFHoe3WMIR8BA72+asAw+/7SK/gU7Xu4IuIrxBOg430floQg+6Ck+SMYHyUg/Doqd XxjCs6Ds0nsh4WioM59EhI0Inr04yAeWVY9gdOgBIkUNgq8jtTQpLgrA5nlJkSIfQU/e2cB9 Bi+EyvLbAQ8pficA80C0n8NxKnjaeZr0N0CLJQ8Rng35DaOBHP5FWodGRCR3Enx8/Ej4/2zg m+HD2QtjvBg8hQ4hYQwlzZ4xngIfrEU0H7RKf1DAL8LAebqN4se+S3n3E58Z6zOYAVVNCcRr IZwYrRrb4zQoyO0RBe+xGMXYEZul06j27U6cU4t8/7kdmPhG9LowpRVhFsnGizU/XQoJrdyv y97XimJ9z7ypvtaJIil1ppqTScXOG26FRLxLmX2Q02Zu12apOF0rimIp2SRxaVKVQoJ3K/Xc Xo7TcNp/pwI2JNKAznwz3hKb7CuO2Kw5lavfei3c1NsK9aani1xXen8dXfrWpGPDPSnmurDu tON7rkdHuQ69Wvc7dW/OH/ufnV3Se3zLjcEmfcK4ipuXVdMufFqT6C7a2ZO5TGOJjZq/aTjO qEx+c/iHd/JNW7/jcky+foPptfvOVjV/whw7wyzrzhreLKN06cq5M4VanfIvpcAsvNcDAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "CCAMP \(ccamp@ietf.org\)" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 15:58:59 -0000 --_002_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC2B7eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, greatly appreciate your thoughtful comments. We updated the draft and uploa= ded it as -04. Please find more details in-line and tagged GIM>>. Hope we're converging and are really close to completely address your very = helpful comments. Best regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:45 AM To: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt Greg, Thanks for the changes. I have some comments on this version: - I don't think the role of rro is clear in this rev. It references hop cou= nt in the narrative, but then has no associated required processing. I rea= d it as vestigial text that can be dropped, but perhaps not. Either way thi= s should be clarified. GIM>> Added the following sentence towards end of Section 4.6: The calculated value is used by the LSR as TTL value in outgoing label to= reach the next RTM capable LSR on the LSP. - given that the RTM_SET Sub-object is no longer carried in the rro, I thi= nk it would be clearer to align the name with other LSP attribute TLVs.=20 (See http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-te-parameters/rsvp-te-parameters.xhtml= ) . So perhaps RTM_SET TLV and simply RTM_SET for short (and in place of RRSO= )? GIM>> Thank you, accepted and changed text accordingly. - The last paragraph of 4.7 needs to be updated to reflect that there isn't= a new object being introduced and that RTM_SET is carried as an attribute = tlv. GIM>> Done. - there are no processing rules for RTM_SET sub-TLVs. GIM>> That is very good point. In reviewing processing of RTM_SET sub-TLVs = we agreed that duplicate sub-TLV is indication of misbehaving LSR and canno= t be interpreted. Hence we propose to interrupt signaling LSP and generate = PathErr with new Error Code. Once decided that we updated processing of dup= licate RTM_SET TLV to behave in the similar manner, generate PathErr with d= istinct new Error Code. Updated IANA Consideration section accordingly to r= equest two new Error Codes. That's it. Thanks, Lou On February 12, 2016 11:47:43 AM internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IET= F. > > Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network > Authors : Greg Mirsky > Stefano Ruffini > Eric Gray > John Drake > Stewart Bryant > Alexander Vainshtein > Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt > Pages : 25 > Date : 2016-02-12 > > Abstract: > This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and > how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being > transported over MPLS domain. > > Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing > and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each > message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be > taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event > message. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.iet= f.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --_002_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC2B7eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC2B7@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "CCAMP \(ccamp@ietf.org\)" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:27:40 -0000 Greg, See below. On 2/18/2016 10:58 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > greatly appreciate your thoughtful comments. We updated the draft and uploaded it as -04. Please find more details in-line and tagged GIM>>. > Hope we're converging and are really close to completely address your very helpful comments. > > Best regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:45 AM > To: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt > > Greg, > > Thanks for the changes. I have some comments on this version: > > - I don't think the role of rro is clear in this rev. It references hop count in the narrative, but then has no associated required processing. I read it as vestigial text that can be dropped, but perhaps not. Either way this should be clarified. > GIM>> Added the following sentence towards end of Section 4.6: > The calculated value is used by the LSR as TTL value in outgoing label to reach the next RTM capable LSR on the LSP. I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to policy or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. I can see how to easily detect this situation, but not how to get the number of non-supporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play ttl comparison games, but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? > - given that the RTM_SET Sub-object is no longer carried in the rro, I think it would be clearer to align the name with other LSP attribute TLVs. > (See > http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-te-parameters/rsvp-te-parameters.xhtml) > . So perhaps RTM_SET TLV and simply RTM_SET for short (and in place of RRSO)? > GIM>> Thank you, accepted and changed text accordingly. > > - The last paragraph of 4.7 needs to be updated to reflect that there isn't a new object being introduced and that RTM_SET is carried as an attribute tlv. > GIM>> Done. > > - there are no processing rules for RTM_SET sub-TLVs. > GIM>> That is very good point. In reviewing processing of RTM_SET sub-TLVs we agreed that duplicate sub-TLV is indication of misbehaving LSR and cannot be interpreted. Hence we propose to interrupt signaling LSP and generate PathErr with new Error Code. Once decided that we updated processing of duplicate RTM_SET TLV to behave in the similar manner, generate PathErr with distinct new Error Code. Updated IANA Consideration section accordingly to request two new Error Codes. looks like a good start. It should say if this is enforced at just egress or all nodes. Also it should state what a supporting transit node is expected to do. e.g., (put into nice prose): A transit node MUST examine an incoming Path Message for the presence of a RTM_SET TLV within the LSP_ATTRIBUTES object. If more than one is found, ... If none is found ... When one is found, the node MUST include its [FILL_IN] address to the end of the RTM_SET TLV in associated outgoing Path messages. etc. also for Reserved: s/transmission/initiation as transit notes transmit, but shouldn't modify... Lou > > That's it. > > Thanks, > Lou > > > > > > > > > On February 12, 2016 11:47:43 AM internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IETF. >> >> Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >> Authors : Greg Mirsky >> Stefano Ruffini >> Eric Gray >> John Drake >> Stewart Bryant >> Alexander Vainshtein >> Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt >> Pages : 25 >> Date : 2016-02-12 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and >> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >> transported over MPLS domain. >> >> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing >> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each >> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be >> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >> message. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Thu Feb 18 11:51:15 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0B01A8A3E; 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Thu, 18 Feb 2016 14:50:58 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Lou Berger , "draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHRZbUWrfU5OoCxqUS1QoJoo38/2J8u5z+AgAMTecCAAF5LgP//43dQ Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 19:50:57 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC6C6@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <20160212164658.3794.95121.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <152e9e58c28.2818.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF112219CC2B7@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> <56C5EF57.5070601@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <56C5EF57.5070601@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFuphkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZXLonRLdL4ViYwdNzEhZP5txgsTh84RS7 RUfzWxaLW0tXslq0/tjB4sDqsWTJTyaPD5ua2QKYorhsUlJzMstSi/TtErgyPv7YyFhw2Lii ZesctgbGHo0uRk4OCQETif/nFrFD2GISF+6tZ+ti5OIQEjjCKPH9zjtmCGc5o8Si5knMIFVs AkYSLzb2gHWICFRInNu6ihHEZhbIlDi5+RUbiC0s4CPRvfozC0SNr8SdydcYIWw3iUkz54LN YRFQlbh+cAITiM0LVPN7/W+oZQ8ZJT5emgGW4BTQkDh1aCWYzQh03vdTa5gglolL3Hoynwni bAGJJXvOM0PYohIvH/9jhbCVJCYtPccKUa8jsWD3JzYIW1ti2cLXzBCLBSVOznzCMoFRbBaS sbOQtMxC0jILScsCRpZVjBylxQU5uelGhpsYgXF0TILNcQfj3l7PQ4wCHIxKPLwFv4+ECbEm lhVX5h5ilOBgVhLhrfp8NEyINyWxsiq1KD++qDQntfgQozQHi5I471zn9WFCAumJJanZqakF qUUwWSYOTqkGxrVH407pnS1+Iclj4lF3UMy7eKqypKDRISbn6dPsOOSmzTsedVLpftGbsMpn F05+6OHnWnAxQ+m4h2z2W8f3Ch5yyd6NDn4XYjeenb3/FKsJwyvF71dDfIPeP1tZ1Z725h/b kh3r2/9yTvHb4qBwNnTLqR+MO+5FhUxZGMMffCGXVUzWtuNqhBJLcUaioRZzUXEiAP2uVVyf AgAA Archived-At: Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "CCAMP \(ccamp@ietf.org\)" , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 19:51:09 -0000 Hi Lou, I think we are converging. Please find my answers in-line and tagged GIM2>>= . Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 8:21 AM To: Gregory Mirsky; draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org Cc: mpls@ietf.org; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.tx= t Greg, See below. On 2/18/2016 10:58 AM, Gregory Mirsky wrote: > Hi Lou, > greatly appreciate your thoughtful comments. We updated the draft and upl= oaded it as -04. Please find more details in-line and tagged GIM>>. > Hope we're converging and are really close to completely address your ver= y helpful comments. > > Best regards, > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:45 AM > To: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@ietf.org > Cc: mpls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt > > Greg, > > Thanks for the changes. I have some comments on this version: > > - I don't think the role of rro is clear in this rev. It references hop c= ount in the narrative, but then has no associated required processing. I r= ead it as vestigial text that can be dropped, but perhaps not. Either way t= his should be clarified. > GIM>> Added the following sentence towards end of Section 4.6: > The calculated value is used by the LSR as TTL value in outgoing label = to reach the next RTM capable LSR on the LSP. I think this doesn't always work, e.g., when RRO is modified due to policy = or limited due to size constraints. This has to be addressed. I can see h= ow to easily detect this situation, but not how to get the number of non-su= pporting hops. I guess it's always possible to play ttl comparison games, = but that's pretty ugly too. Any thoughts? GIM2>> If the RTM capable LSR cannot calculate the distance to the next dow= nstream RTM capable LSR, then it should set TTL 255. Would that address you= r concern? GIM2>> Number of non-supporting RTM nodes - number of TLVs in RRO till matc= hing the Value of the top RTM_SET sub-TLV in RTM-SET. GIM2>> Yes, calculating or playing TTL game is how the proposed RTM mechani= sm works. In PCE that may be simpler to do. > - given that the RTM_SET Sub-object is no longer carried in the rro, I t= hink it would be clearer to align the name with other LSP attribute TLVs.=20 > (See > http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-te-parameters/rsvp-te-parameters. > xhtml) . So perhaps RTM_SET TLV and simply RTM_SET for short (and in=20 > place of RRSO)? > GIM>> Thank you, accepted and changed text accordingly. > > - The last paragraph of 4.7 needs to be updated to reflect that there isn= 't a new object being introduced and that RTM_SET is carried as an attribut= e tlv. > GIM>> Done. > > - there are no processing rules for RTM_SET sub-TLVs. > GIM>> That is very good point. In reviewing processing of RTM_SET sub-TLV= s we agreed that duplicate sub-TLV is indication of misbehaving LSR and can= not be interpreted. Hence we propose to interrupt signaling LSP and generat= e PathErr with new Error Code. Once decided that we updated processing of d= uplicate RTM_SET TLV to behave in the similar manner, generate PathErr with= distinct new Error Code. Updated IANA Consideration section accordingly to= request two new Error Codes. looks like a good start. It should say if this is enforced at just egress = or all nodes. Also it should state what a supporting transit node is expec= ted to do. e.g., (put into nice prose): A transit node MUST examine an incoming Path Message for the presence o= f a RTM_SET TLV within the LSP_ATTRIBUTES object.=20 If more than one is found, ... If none is found ... When one is found, the node MUST include its [FILL_IN] address to the e= nd of the RTM_SET TLV in associated outgoing Path messages. etc. GIM2>> Thank you for your help and the text. I believe that by "transit nod= e" we understand "RTM capable LSR". I'll prepare the new version and share = with you. also for Reserved: s/transmission/initiation as transit notes transmit, but shouldn't modify... GIM2>> Thank you, will change. Lou > > That's it. > > Thanks, > Lou > > > > > > > > > On February 12, 2016 11:47:43 AM internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direc= tories. >> This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching of the IE= TF. >> >> Title : Residence Time Measurement in MPLS network >> Authors : Greg Mirsky >> Stefano Ruffini >> Eric Gray >> John Drake >> Stewart Bryant >> Alexander Vainshtein >> Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03.txt >> Pages : 25 >> Date : 2016-02-12 >> >> Abstract: >> This document specifies G-ACh based Residence Time Measurement and >> how it can be used by time synchronization protocols being >> transported over MPLS domain. >> >> Residence time is the variable part of propagation delay of timing >> and synchronization messages and knowing what this delay is for each >> message allows for a more accurate determination of the delay to be >> taken into account in applying the value included in a PTP event >> message. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time/ >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-03 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ie= tf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Sat Feb 20 14:15:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F821B2AF3; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, Thanks much for your comments. My answer/explanation is inline below. Best Regards, Huaimo -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:09 AM To: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection@ietf.org; TEAS WG Subject: [Teas] A basic question on draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection Hi, I have a question on draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection that is prompted by today's interim and can be covered there and/or on list: Given that the draft says: > The egress local protection may be generalized and used with the > segment protection defined in RFC 4873 . How it is generalized and > used is out of scope for this document. > Why define a new set of formats and mechanisms when an existing set of formats and mechanisms can be used or adapted to (a) provide the same function and (b) do so in a more general way? [Huaimo] RFC 4873 defines a segment protection, which provides a protection= against a failure in a segment of an LSP. However, this segment protection= can not be used or re-used to provide a protection against a failure in th= e egress of the LSP. For a segment from a node B to the egress E of the LSP= , node B creates a backup LSP to egress E, and switches the traffic to the = backup LSP when detecting a failure in the segment except for a failure in = egress E. When egress E fails, the backup LSP will fail, thus no protection= is provided by the segment protection against egress failure. To provide e= gress local (or fast) protection, the segment protection needs to be genera= lized/enhanced. I look forward to hearing/discussing the rational for not not reusing what we already have defined. Thanks, Lou _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --_000_5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D44E4D6959SJCEML701CHMchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lou,

 

Thanks much for your= comments.

My answer/explanatio= n is inline below.

 

Best Regards,

Huaimo

-----Original Message-----
From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:09 AM
To: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection@ietf.org; TEAS WG
Subject: [Teas] A basic question on draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection<= /p>

 

Hi,

    I have a question on draft-iet= f-teas-rsvp-egress-protection that is

prompted by today's interim and can be covered th= ere and/or on list:

 

Given that the draft says:

>    The egress local protectio= n may be generalized and used with the

>    segment protection defined= in RFC 4873 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4873>.  How it is g= eneralized and

>    used is out of scope for t= his document.

> 

 

Why define a new set of formats and mechanisms wh= en an existing set of

formats and mechanisms can be used or adapted to = (a) provide the same

function and (b) do so in a more general way?

 

[Huaimo] RFC 4873 def= ines a segment protection, which provides a protection against a failure in= a segment of an LSP. However, this segment protection can not be used or r= e-used to provide a protection against a failure in the egress of the LSP. For a segment from a node B to the egr= ess E of the LSP, node B creates a backup LSP to egress E, and switches the= traffic to the backup LSP when detecting a failure in the segment except f= or a failure in egress E. When egress E fails, the backup LSP will fail, thus no protection is provided by the s= egment protection against egress failure. To provide egress local (or fast)= protection, the segment protection needs to be generalized/enhanced.<= /o:p>

 

I look forward to hearing/discussing the rational= for not not reusing

what we already have defined.

 

Thanks,

Lou

 

 

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--_000_5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D44E4D6959SJCEML701CHMchi_-- From nobody Sun Feb 21 04:35:39 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352F41B2B99 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 04:35:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.667 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.667 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BSAVPBmSrYmN for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 04:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DE0CC1B2B93 for ; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 04:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 929 invoked by uid 0); 21 Feb 2016 12:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2016 12:35:28 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id M7bG1s00Y2SSUrH017bKMv; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:35:25 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=GOWbTI9K c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=jFJIQSaiL_oA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=dpONjLPLHsb_UuI35_4A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=nOTvNJxpwauMvnhFe3qrhq65atC//C0DmUyXlulKYvY=; b=XWqm8v12uCD8OIfQaXVDfWBm4R2GCsj7TQRS93YO48G7fCNFc/KXqvxvtD+6G9iq0BZMnvDSnLHVx7ZUC3mh6lhKHduue+3eH3H+QJekl5rjQefjk1D3Cpf5aVAn6IVJ; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:36617 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXTEN-0003Fl-Eo; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 05:35:19 -0700 To: Huaimo Chen , "draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection@ietf.org" , TEAS WG References: <56A8CF8A.6080500@labn.net> <5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D44E4D6959@SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com> From: Lou Berger X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56C9AF04.5070201@labn.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:35:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5316A0AB3C851246A7CA5758973207D44E4D6959@SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] A basic question on draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:35:37 -0000 Huaimo, See below. On 02/20/2016 05:15 PM, Huaimo Chen wrote: > Hi Lou, > > > > Thanks much for your comments. > > My answer/explanation is inline below. > > > > Best Regards, > > Huaimo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:09 AM > To: draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection@ietf.org; TEAS WG > Subject: [Teas] A basic question on draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection > > > > Hi, > > I have a question on draft-ietf-teas-rsvp-egress-protection that is > > prompted by today's interim and can be covered there and/or on list: > > > > Given that the draft says: > >> The egress local protection may be generalized and used with the > >> segment protection defined in RFC 4873 > . How it is generalized and > >> used is out of scope for this document. > >> > > > > Why define a new set of formats and mechanisms when an existing set of > > formats and mechanisms can be used or adapted to (a) provide the same > > function and (b) do so in a more general way? > > > > [Huaimo] RFC 4873 defines a segment protection, which provides a > protection against a failure in a segment of an LSP. However, this > segment protection can not be used or re-used to provide a protection > against a failure in the egress of the LSP. > For a segment from a node B > to the egress E of the LSP, node B creates a backup LSP to egress E, and > switches the traffic to the backup LSP when detecting a failure in the > segment except for a failure in egress E. When egress E fails, the > backup LSP will fail, thus no protection is provided by the segment > protection against egress failure. I'm sorry I just don't follow your argument here. Are you saying a protected segment with a merge node which is also the egress doesn't protect against egress failure? If so, then yes - sure. If not, perhaps you can rephrase to state the point directly before jumping into an example? > To provide egress local (or fast) > protection, the segment protection needs to be generalized/enhanced. Right. So my basic question is why not reuse/build on this existing mechanism? For example why not just define egress protection to use an SERO with a final subobject that is the secondary egress? Lou > > > > I look forward to hearing/discussing the rational for not not reusing > > what we already have defined. > > > > Thanks, > > Lou > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Sun Feb 21 16:23:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84FB1ACECE; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:23:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S2MQt03RbFDl; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E3C71ACEC8; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:23:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2410; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1456100631; x=1457310231; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=fGBH58GJf3DeARJP7wfdhagUrFhf80u+QBKppbfyGUE=; b=S5QrK2hvkDMDhmIC5EmB5c7RIO7HvbRJOsV7uYNKKFoEE9MxL4q5Al8Z mXmHLZ7g5OuDUKpTW7YoqGx654M5gcB43S8HaNaGRcdNpUrLl94HSy1yv 0DeHfG4H8ceJjKK8vzFhcZVap0Elgx3v24qpf8C47f4EeNYqqZjjikBAJ Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0ApBQBDVMpW/5BdJa1egm5MUm0GhBa2N?= =?us-ascii?q?AENgWghhWyBJjgUAQEBAQEBAWQnhEQEeRIBDAFzJwQBDYgfDrUVAQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBEQSGEokdhA0FlwcBhVaIB4FchEOHOoEajkgBHgEBQoNka?= =?us-ascii?q?odZfQEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.22,483,1449532800"; d="scan'208,217"; a="73319385" Received: from rcdn-core-8.cisco.com ([173.37.93.144]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 22 Feb 2016 00:23:50 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (xch-rcd-004.cisco.com [173.37.102.14]) by rcdn-core-8.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u1M0Nok0011112 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:23:50 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:23:49 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:23:49 -0600 From: "Tarek Saad (tsaad)" To: "mpls@ietf.org" , TEAS WG Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te and draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp Thread-Index: AQHRbQdN7LLViywI7EaSATO5HimsLQ== Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:23:49 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.82.243.196] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D2EFBCF9854B6tsaadciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-teas-yang-te@ietf.org" Subject: [Teas] draft-ietf-teas-yang-te and draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 00:23:52 -0000 --_000_D2EFBCF9854B6tsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi WG(s), We have made updates to the latest TE/RSVP yang models described in draft-i= etf-teas-yang-te and draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp. The latest changes include: * splitting the TE generic model in device and non-device specific * regrouping some TE MPLS specific attributes to TE MPLS module * addressing minor changes to allow alignment with other OC model The latest models can be found at: https://github.com/ietf-mpls-yang/te The full yang model tree (includes TE and RSVP) is generated at: https://github.com/ietf-mpls-yang/te/blob/master/te_model.tree Please review and let us know if you have any comments. Regards, Tarek (on behalf of the co-authors) --_000_D2EFBCF9854B6tsaadciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5B16D209614A8B478E7BCCA420593B76@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi WG(s),

We have made updates to the latest TE/RSVP yang models described in&nb= sp;draft-ietf-teas-yang-te and draft-ietf-teas-yang-rsvp.
The latest changes include:
  • splitting the TE generic model in device and non-device specific
    • regrouping some TE MPLS specific attributes to TE MPLS module
  • add= ressing minor changes to allow alignment with other OC model
The latest models can be found at:

The full yang model tree (includes TE and RSVP) is generated at:
https://github.com/ietf-mpls-yang/te/blob/master/te_model.tree

Please review and let us know if you have any comments.

Regards,
Tarek (on behalf of the co-authors)
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X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 00:53:44 -0000 Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules Thx Rajan -----Original Message----- From: Khuzema Pithewan=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:49 PM To: Lou Berger ; adrian@olddog.co.uk; daniele.ceccarelli@= ericsson.com; jdrake@juniper.net; nabil.bitar@verizon.com; swallow@cisco.co= m; cyril.margaria@googlemail.com; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; ggrammel@jun= iper.net; jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com; ogondio@tid.es; Rajan Rao ; sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com; vbeeram@juniper.net; vlopez@ti= d.es; zali@cisco.com; zhang.xian@huawei.com; zhangfatai@huawei.com Cc: TEAS WG Chairs ; TEAS WG Subject: RE: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info= -exchange Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules Khuzema -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:48 AM To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; jdrake@juniper.ne= t; nabil.bitar@verizon.com; swallow@cisco.com; cyril.margaria@googlemail.co= m; diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; ggrammel@juniper.net; jeff.tantsura@ericsso= n.com; Khuzema Pithewan; ogondio@tid.es; Rajan Rao; sergio.belotti@alcatel-= lucent.com; vbeeram@juniper.net; vlopez@tid.es; zali@cisco.com; zhang.xian@= huawei.com; zhangfatai@huawei.com Cc: TEAS WG Chairs; TEAS WG Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exc= hange Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for WG Last Call Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? 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Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:14:45 +0000 From: OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS To: Lou Berger , "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "jdrake@juniper.net" , "nabil.bitar@verizon.com" , "swallow@cisco.com" , "cyril.margaria@googlemail.com" , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "ggrammel@juniper.net" , "jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com" , "kpithewan@infinera.com" , "rrao@infinera.com" , "sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com" , "vbeeram@juniper.net" , VICTOR LOPEZ ALVAREZ , "zali@cisco.com" , "zhang.xian@huawei.com" , "zhangfatai@huawei.com" Thread-Topic: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange Thread-Index: AQHRbhqi72iXFVsBBUKOhZGQVS27PQ== Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:14:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56A76AFF.4070900@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <56A76AFF.4070900@labn.net> Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 authentication-results: labn.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;labn.net; 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:VI1PR06MB1183; H:VI1PR06MB1438.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <6B4A9190D3CBA84588CEFBC7ED020233@eurprd06.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 23 Feb 2016 09:14:45.3690 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 9744600e-3e04-492e-baa1-25ec245c6f10 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR06MB1183 X-OriginatorOrg: telefonica.com X-TM-AS-MML: No Archived-At: Cc: TEAS WG Chairs , TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:15:01 -0000 No I=B9m not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. However, I am aware of a very recent IPR disclose made in Feb 2nd 2016 by Infinera which claimed to be related to draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange. However, after a careful read, to my understanding, the mechanisms described in such disclosure do not apply to this draft. Best regards, =D3scar El 26/1/16 13:47, "Teas on behalf of Lou Berger" escribi=F3: > >Authors, Contributors, WG, > >As part of the preparation for WG Last Call > >Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > >Please state either: > >"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" >or >"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > >If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > >If yes to the above, please state either: > >"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" >or >"No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > >If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think >appropriate. > >If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the >above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are >aware of any relevant IPR. 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