From nobody Wed Dec 5 01:33:17 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2101276D0; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 01:33:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RDqhYv_aIYlY; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 01:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta6.iomartmail.com (mta6.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.156]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C3B0126BED; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 01:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (vs3.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.124]) by mta6.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wB59X6Go022881; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:33:07 GMT Received: from vs3.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B7022032; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:33:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs3.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE58C2203A; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:33:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([81.174.186.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wB59X5mX015886 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:33:06 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:33:04 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <0aa501d48c7d$86732240$935966c0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdSMe0zSR0lZKkxHRwam9Scd2ao+zQ== Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 81.174.186.130 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24264.006 X-TM-AS-Result: No--1.865-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--1.865-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24264.006 X-TMASE-Result: 10--1.865400-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: tmbxcnYtprmoEDrkoz7IyHBRIrj8R47Fu1b0t4ooa9tq4coTktrGX/Mr tsTYdEzguBUrbyBrMao4KibcE2kjV3iAhadtzJWN85L5JHGOAXBov2DbiLW21ddUvC1Yn1ak1fc e4C9pfzLbAsNqyubZbcWhhwhs7YYjoi8K/V7jzhmzI1v7J4hECkyjgwn9Mo4v31GU/N5W5BDKLF DEUPs4B7TprHww9+lPHrOgDJjeshg7j/Cza4otbEKcYi5Qw/RVSFd9bf3igvJXPwnnY5XL5O1tv C2NhA1Bb87DYGBoI1+2kZHxELDTSdBu44v44Rtac+QhWKJM04PLd8x3ukKaXmsSgW01iDQLQPUn SIMN7VttvBXmcK7IfXY5w3EaO0Ks/R31xRWcENypFX54L8f9xRdEegv9bhjqmBkO2PCy6EsDXUJ oExxkYWBuEjeQVEocKEZgPAyw0M1KvovRq1s4LENTnAhL0/m3NNuh+5zmS68nFcnAoAp5r4u3td AXbWvtlPbbI6Egm1ORk6XtYogiarQ/aqQZTRfKU6baA36eiazEQdG7H66TyHEqm8QYBtMOS7os4 1doq7Sc/Z77daI3jSvAOngJaemeNWUxaIHHaPbX49ETkaWp0vB88UJ+UaVQ9iPTyQN4hGCc+kX0 MakCMxte+sGv6Z2sxCoeW0dT2BaH/JCvitQD6SHK6aCMTbp1P5auqMpnWCs= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] Review and thoughts on draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 09:33:16 -0000 Hi, I just had cause to read this draft, and that generated a few small comments (below). Otherwise, it seems a fairly sound document. I wonder what the plans are for this document. IIRC it was moved from CCAMP to TEAS after discussion between the chairs and considering that it had a broader TE scope. Does that mean there is a plan for this to become a TEAS WG document? Chairs? Thanks, Adrian === Right hand margin alignment on the top of the front page seems to be a bit messed up. --- There seem to be two carriage returns at the bottom of each page. --- idnits shows a few issues with references == Missing Reference: 'TE-TOPO' is mentioned on line 247, but not defined == Missing Reference: 'I-D.ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp' is mentioned on line 349, but not defined == Missing Reference: 'PCEP-LS' is mentioned on line 397, but not defined == Unused Reference: 'RFC8281' is defined on line 593, but no explicit reference was found in the text --- Abstract I think, in order to avoid having to expand "LMP" and to make the text a little bit more brief, you might leave out the three examples in parentheses. --- Abstract You aren't allowed citations in the Abstract, so OLD is ACTN controller hierarchy [RFC8453] NEW is the ACTN controller hierarchy described in RFC 8453 END --- Abstract s/advantage/advantages/ --- If you think you need the 2119 language (which you currently don't use and probably don't need), you should move "Conventions used in this document" down to become Section 2 and replace it with the new text... The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. That requires you to make an addition to the normative references for RFC 8174. Of course, better is to entirely remove this text and to remove the reference to 2119 from 11.1. --- Introduction Need to expand PNC, MDSC, and CNC. Similarly PCE. --- 2.1 s/establish LSP/establish Label Switched Paths (LSPs)/ s/the same network topology/the same view of the network topology/ --- 2.2 s/In centralized controller system/In centralized controller systems/ --- 2.3 s/Following figure/Figure 1/ --- 3. OLD In addition to setup and maintain control channels, NEW In addition to the setup and maintenance of control channels, END --- 5. s/Once a controller learn/Once a controller learns/ --- 6. s/Signaling mechanism is/Signaling mechanisms are/ --- 6. You have.... Signaling protocols such as RSVP-TE [RFC3473] and CR-LDP [RFC3472] have been extended to support different interfaces in GMPLS. I think it is time to stop mentioning CR-LDP. It is now substantially historic and has fallen so far behind RSVP-TE as to be basically unusable. --- 7.1 s/method has/methods have/ --- Obviously sections 8 and 9 need some text. --- I think you need to sort out the references. Currently you have them all as Normative, and that isn't right. Your guide should be "Which documents *must* you read to understand the basis of this document (normative), and which documents provide additional detail that a dedicated reader would want to read (informative)?" 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From nobody Sat Dec 8 05:53:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666F2129385 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 05:53:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rS6Fb74chQLz for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 05:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82CD0124C04 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 05:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmgw12.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.12]) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862E3140683 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 06:53:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id Vd33grGxc9hd6Vd33gXqal; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 06:53:37 -0700 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eFUy6DxgVQnyyEE3B5VZh54DAtBUcVpdDYmrrVz1NRY=; b=LgV0cnWQDQtZUThj5o6rcjqFuZ oYPxa4t8cUrvQy6gMCj2Ps6TsSvKDhXXAfl45vhAGkOMv1PbH148UpGGjDA6OsxyuAa0ixa1dIy1t oY+FR+tEPCivDrgR/rAHxdIn2; Received: from pool-100-15-82-67.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([100.15.82.67]:40110 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gVd33-000eYl-2p; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 06:53:37 -0700 To: "Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept)" , "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "teas@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work@ietf.org" References: From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 08:53:35 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 100.15.82.67 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1gVd33-000eYl-2p X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: pool-100-15-82-67.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([IPv6:::1]) [100.15.82.67]:40110 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Review and thoughts on draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2018 13:53:41 -0000 Hi, Since you asked.... I think Pavan and I have no reservations about this work progressing in the WG.  We do have a couple of things that think it would be worth clarifying before adoption poll. 1) it would be good to clarify that ACTN is one (example) method for implementing centralized control.  The document is good in some places, e.g., section 1, but less so in others. It would be good to ensure that the reader, particularly those new to the topic, understand that ACTN is just one way to provide centralized control, e.g., section 2.3 reads as if ACTN is the sole supported method; a PCE based approach is mentioned in the document but this is buried at end of section 5.2. 2) It would best if the examples lined up with what we are covering in the WG.  For example, I don't believe we've had any suggestion or discussion use of OSPF-TE as an SBI as shown in figure 1.  (A nit, it should be NetConf/YANG.) If your intent is to propose this, than this should be clarified and perhaps added to section 7. 3) We see Section 7 as the (future) core of the document and clearly a work in progress.  This is can be addressed pre or post WG adoption. Thanks, Pavan and Lou On 12/6/2018 7:38 AM, Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept) wrote: > Hi, Adrian, > > Thank you for the comments, we just updated this work to -02 and hopefully all the comments are addressed. We are also looking forward to see the feedback from the chairs, plans and/or advices are highly appreciated, thank you. > > FYI, the -02 draft is now available at: > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work-02.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work-02 > Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work-02 > > Best wishes, > Haomian > > -----邮件原件----- > 发件人: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] > 发送时间: 2018年12月5日 17:33 > 收件人: teas@ietf.org > 抄送: draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work@ietf.org > 主题: Review and thoughts on draft-zheng-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work > > Hi, > > I just had cause to read this draft, and that generated a few small comments (below). Otherwise, it seems a fairly sound document. > > I wonder what the plans are for this document. IIRC it was moved from CCAMP to TEAS after discussion between the chairs and considering that it had a broader TE scope. Does that mean there is a plan for this to become a TEAS WG document? Chairs? > > Thanks, > Adrian > > === > > Right hand margin alignment on the top of the front page seems to be a bit messed up. > > --- > > There seem to be two carriage returns at the bottom of each page. > > --- > > idnits shows a few issues with references > == Missing Reference: 'TE-TOPO' is mentioned on line 247, but not defined > > == Missing Reference: 'I-D.ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp' is mentioned on line > 349, but not defined > > == Missing Reference: 'PCEP-LS' is mentioned on line 397, but not defined > > == Unused Reference: 'RFC8281' is defined on line 593, but no explicit > reference was found in the text > > --- > > Abstract > I think, in order to avoid having to expand "LMP" and to make the text a little bit more brief, you might leave out the three examples in parentheses. > > --- > > Abstract > You aren't allowed citations in the Abstract, so OLD is ACTN controller hierarchy [RFC8453] NEW is the ACTN controller hierarchy described in RFC 8453 END > > --- > > Abstract > s/advantage/advantages/ > > --- > > If you think you need the 2119 language (which you currently don't use and probably don't need), you should move "Conventions used in this document" down to become Section 2 and replace it with the new text... > > The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", > "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and > "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP > 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all > capitals, as shown here. > > That requires you to make an addition to the normative references for RFC 8174. > > Of course, better is to entirely remove this text and to remove the reference to 2119 from 11.1. > > --- > > Introduction > Need to expand PNC, MDSC, and CNC. > Similarly PCE. > > --- > > 2.1 > s/establish LSP/establish Label Switched Paths (LSPs)/ s/the same network topology/the same view of the network topology/ > > --- > > 2.2 > s/In centralized controller system/In centralized controller systems/ > > --- > > 2.3 > s/Following figure/Figure 1/ > > --- > > 3. > OLD > In addition to setup and > maintain control channels, > NEW > In addition to the setup and > maintenance of control channels, > END > > --- > > 5. > s/Once a controller learn/Once a controller learns/ > > --- > > 6. > s/Signaling mechanism is/Signaling mechanisms are/ > > --- > > 6. > You have.... > Signaling protocols such as > RSVP-TE [RFC3473] and CR-LDP [RFC3472] have been extended to support > different interfaces in GMPLS. > > I think it is time to stop mentioning CR-LDP. It is now substantially historic and has fallen so far behind RSVP-TE as to be basically unusable. > > --- > > 7.1 > s/method has/methods have/ > > --- > > Obviously sections 8 and 9 need some text. > > --- > > I think you need to sort out the references. Currently you have them all as Normative, and that isn't right. 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As part of preparation for WG Adoption

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(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
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Hi All,

 

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

 

BR, Dan. =

 

From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> =
Sent: 08 December 2018 16:32
To: Dongjie (Jimmy) = <jie.dong@huawei.com>; Stewart Bryant = <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>; lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; = ta-miyasaka@kddi.com; Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; Daniel King = <daniel@olddog.co.uk>; Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; = jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; Daniele Ceccarelli = <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; = Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>; = zhenghaomian@huawei.com
Cc: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; = TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Regarding = IPR on draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn

 

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of = preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified = above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this = draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If = so, has this IPR been disclosed in = compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see = RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, = please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF = IPR rules"
or
"No, the = IPR has not been disclosed"

If = you answer no, please provide any additional details you = think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or = contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email = regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the = next
stage until a response has been received from each author and = listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS = MESSAGE'S
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aware of IPR of others = on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any = contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs = listed above
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http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intelle= ctualProperty.

Thank you,
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Thanks,

Adrian

 

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Sent: 08 December 2018 16:32
To: Dongjie (Jimmy) = <jie.dong@huawei.com>; Stewart Bryant = <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>; lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; = ta-miyasaka@kddi.com; Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; Daniel King = <daniel@olddog.co.uk>; Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; = jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; Daniele Ceccarelli = <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; = Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>; = zhenghaomian@huawei.com
Cc: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; = TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Regarding = IPR on draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn

 

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boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0001_01D4900B.76789140" ------=_NextPart_001_0001_01D4900B.76789140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pavan, all "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" BR Daniele From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: den 8 december 2018 17:32 To: Dongjie (Jimmy) ; Stewart Bryant ; lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; ta-miyasaka@kddi.com; Leeyoung ; Daniel King ; Adrian Farrel ; jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; Daniele Ceccarelli ; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT) ; zhenghaomian@huawei.com Cc: TEAS WG ; TEAS WG Chairs Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of preparation for WG Adoption Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. 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Hi Pavan, = all

 

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this = draft"

BR

Daniele=C2=A0

 

From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> =
Sent: den 8 december 2018 17:32
To: Dongjie (Jimmy) = <jie.dong@huawei.com>; Stewart Bryant = <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>; lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; = ta-miyasaka@kddi.com; Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; Daniel King = <daniel@olddog.co.uk>; Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; = jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; bill.wu@huawei.com; Daniele Ceccarelli = <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; = Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>; = zhenghaomian@huawei.com
Cc: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; = TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Regarding = IPR on draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn

 

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of = preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified = above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this = draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If = so, has this IPR been disclosed in = compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see = RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, = please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF = IPR rules"
or
"No, the = IPR has not been disclosed"

If = you answer no, please provide any additional details you = think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or = contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email = regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the = next
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aware of IPR of others = on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any = contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs = listed above
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http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intelle= ctualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please = include all listed in the headers of this message in = your
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Hi Pavan, all

 

"No, I'm not aware of any I= PR that applies to this draft"


Thanks,
Jeff

 

From: Vishnu Pav= an Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com= >
Sent: den 8 december 2018 17:32
To: Dongjie (J= immy) <jie.dong@huawei.com>= ; Stewart Bryant <stewart.bry= ant@gmail.com>; lizhen= qiang@chinamobile.com; ta-miyasa= ka@kddi.com; Leeyoung <leeyoun= g@huawei.com>; Daniel King <daniel@olddog.co.uk>; Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; bi= ll.wu@huawei.com; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; mohamed.boucadair@orange.com; Belotti, S= ergio (Nokia - IT) <sergio.be= lotti@nokia.com>; zhenghao= mian@huawei.com
Cc: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Regarding IPR on dr= aft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn

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Authors, Contributors, WG,
As part of preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?
Please state either:

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aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to r= efrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to yo= ur
undisclosed IPR. For more information,= please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://tr= ac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

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Hi Pavan, All

No, I’m not aware of any IPR that applies to this document.

Regards,
Takuya

On 2018/12/09 1:32, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed
as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n8sm18878929wrw.59.2018.12.11.01.41.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:41:06 -0800 (PST) To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , "Dongjie (Jimmy)" , lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com, ta-miyasaka@kddi.com, Leeyoung , Daniel King , Adrian Farrel , jefftant.ietf@gmail.com, bill.wu@huawei.com, Daniele Ceccarelli , mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT)" , zhenghaomian@huawei.com Cc: TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs References: From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: <8fd66918-70da-9be4-f46c-8a4f8bb1c2a2@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:41:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6E4358ADBFAE0CC8A5A0394E" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:41:11 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6E4358ADBFAE0CC8A5A0394E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft - Stewart On 08/12/2018 16:32, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of preparation for WG Adoption > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S > TO LINES. > > If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed > as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under > the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are > aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from > participating in any contribution or discussion related to your > undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > TEAS WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > --------------6E4358ADBFAE0CC8A5A0394E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

- Stewart

On 08/12/2018 16:32, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of preparation for WG Adoption

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S
TO LINES.

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as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
TEAS WG Chairs

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
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11 Dec 2018 18:01:42 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01D4917B.8420BD10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 This seems very reasonable to me, and I think there are three points to = remember: =20 1. There is an important difference between a functional architecture = and an implementation/deployment. So, just as we had all the way back in = 4655, functional components may actually be realised inside different = implementation components or as distinct components. This is illustrated = for ACTN in the slides that Sergio attached. 2. The ACTN architecture is recursive, so that a collection of domains = may lie under the control of one MSDC, and another collection of domains = under another MSDC, and both MSDCs may be underneath a parent MSDC. 3. The issue of multi-operator control or resources has been a = significant challenge for a long, long time (who recalls Orchestream?). = It may be that one day we arrive at a solution where two operators are = willing to use software for dynamic control of each other=E2=80=99s = network, but until then we are likely to rely on a = =E2=80=9Cprotocol=E2=80=9D that involves emails, purchase orders, and = phone calls. From a *functional* point of view this is no different from = the architecture pictures that drawn today, but you might consider that = a parent MSDC is functionally split between the two operators with = decisions heavily influenced by policy, and with the component actually = implemented in human resources. =20 Best, Adrian -- Fairy tales from North Wales brought to you for Christmas https://www.feedaread.com/profiles/8604/ Available from your favourite online bookseller. Or contact me to receive a signed copy by mail. =20 From: Teas On Behalf Of Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - = IT/Vimercate) Sent: 11 December 2018 17:34 To: Olivier Dugeon ; = internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: Igor Bryskin ; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - = IT/Vimercate) ; ylee@huawei.com; = teas@ietf.org; Italo Busi Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt =20 Hi Olivier, Thanks for your reply. The issue you=E2=80=99re putting on the table is more an architectural = problem than specific for path computation. You=E2=80=99re right that in multi-operator context you cannot be sure = to have an =E2=80=9Corchestrator=E2=80=9D top entity able to make = collection of information with respect different operator. So a first question would be, independently of path computation, if we , = in TEAS, are planning to address also multi-operator scenario. = Considering ACTN architecture , there are no definition of = =E2=80=9Chorizontal=E2=80=9D interface between domain controllers but it = is always implied to have an higher controller (MDSC) to coordinate = relationship among different domain controllers (e.g.PNC). On the other hand, as correctly pointed out by Igor, the flat approach = is not so similar to the hierarchical approach since it is sequential in = nature while with hierarchical steps can be provided in parallel, = avoiding the burden to wait the completeness of the previous VSPT step = before starting the new =E2=80=9Cper-domain=E2=80=9D path computation. Following the suggested approach from Igor we have drawn some slides to = explain how , even with hierarchical architecture we could obtain what = you have in mind e.g. for multi-domain in multi-operator environment. The basic point is nothing prevent , in ACTN architecture, to collapse = in a domain controller also higher controller functionality, and the PNC = aggregating the 2 functionality of domain and higher controller, can be = triggered by a PCC of its own domain of by client application and then = can instruct simultaneously the other domain controller to ask for = =E2=80=9Cper domain path computation=E2=80=9D and then , one obtained = computed path from different PNCs, it can act a =E2=80=9Chigher = controller=E2=80=9D and based on abstracted topology obtained as Igor = suggested, can select e2e paths. Do you think this approach can address your request, without changing = architecture ? =20 Thanks Regards =20 Italo, Young, Sergio =20 =20 =20 Sergio Belotti Senior System Engineer and Standardization Architect IP/Optical Networks, Optics BU Nokia=20 M: +39-335761776 Via Energy Park, 20871 Vimercate (MB) , Italy sergio.belotti@nokia.com =20 =20 =20 =20 From: Olivier Dugeon >=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:16 PM To: Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) >; internet-drafts@ietf.org = ; i-d-announce@ietf.org = =20 Cc: teas@ietf.org ; Italo Busi = > Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt =20 Hello Sergio, Apologize for the long delay. For me, "flat" approach, I prefer the wording 'distributed', versus = 'hierarchical' approach are quite similar. They only differ by the fact = that there is one parent asking to different child about the per-domain = path computation, while in the others, the per-domain path computation = is done on a per domain basis. In the case of distributed approach, there is two possibilities to = trigger the end-to-end path computation: - An external top controller e.g. NMS, Orchestrator - A PCC In both cases, the request reach the local PCE i.e. the PCE of the = domain where the top controller or PCC are connected to. In fact, as = there is no central PCE i.e. the parent PCE, the first PCE which is = solicited and that trigger the distributed path computation is the PCE = of the source domain i.e. the domain where the IP source address of the = end point object is located. Normally, once check that the source end = point belongs to its domain, the PCE determine which is the next peer = PCE that it must contact to start the BRPC process. Once the destination = domain is reached, the last PCE i.e. in the destination domain, starts = to compute its part of the end-to-end path and send back the ERO. As it = could be compute several path, the return paths are named VSPT (Virtual = Source Path Tree). The previous PCE when it received the ERO from the = latest PCE start merging its own path computation with the received one = and sends the result to its predecessor. At the end, the computed paths = are received by the first PCE which merge them with its local path and = select the best result.=20 What it is not mention in RFC5441, is the way the AS path i.e. which AS, = this which PCE will be involve in the end-to-end path computation. But, = if I remember right, it is the same in RFC6805. PCE could simply follow = the BGP path or perform some local policy or some computation to = determine the next peer PCE. But, this is independent of the the yang = model except if we would provide the AS path. The best way to do this is = to encode in IRO the AS path. We do that in our implementation. So, from a yang model perspective, I think that what is missing in your = model it is just an indication to precise if the end-to-end path is = computed in a hierarchical or distributed way. Adding VSPT flag (like it = is defined in RFC5441) could be a preliminary approach. And in a second = time, is the possiblity to specify the AS path. IMHO, it is not too many = entries to add in the current version of the model. As already mention in previous mail, it is important to address this = scenario as the hierarchical scenario is not always possible in = particular when the domains are controlled by different operators. Regards Olivier =20 Le 26/10/2018 =C3=A0 18:29, Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) a = =C3=A9crit : Hi Olivier, Thanks for your interest in the draft and for your question. draft-ietf-teas-path-computation is providing a Yang model request to = permit a client-controller to ask server-controller for path computation = , in particularly when client has not complete knowledge of the domain = topology for which he has to calculate path. The typical case is multi-domain , and I would say RFC 5441 is = approaching the problem to create a path in a multi-domain environment = from a different angle with respect what our draft is doing. RFC5441 is a "flat" scenario and controllers have peer to peer = relationship. Our case is a typical hierarchical scenario as mentioned in the = introduction. We assume information exchange is top-down and bottom-up = no horizontal information is exchanged . I would say we are trying to = solve multi domain issue in a scenario close to what RFC 6805 is doing = for PCE prospective. Anyway if you envisage SDN scenarios in which YANG models are used for = peer to peer communication among controllers we are interested to = further investigate them and evaluate whether the existing models can be = adapted to the scope. One aspect we would like to better understand in these scenarios is how = the end-to-end path computation is triggered and coordinated. In the hierarchical scenario, the end-to-end path computation is = triggered by some requests (e.g., LxSM) from the top-level controller = which, from the abstract topology view it gets from the lower-level = controllers, understands what are the ingress and egress points of the = end-to-end path, compute the path in terms of which domains it has to = cross (using path computation RPC when needed) and coordinate the = end-to-end path setup (requesting each domain to setup its path = segment). In a flat scenario, it is not clear how the overall process is started: = which is the controller that coordinates the end-to-end path setup and = how the customer knows which controller is going to request the service = (e.g., LxSM) to trigger the whole process? =20 If you'll be in Bangkok for IETF meeting we would be happy to discuss = with you face to face. =20 Thanks =20 Italo and Sergio =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Teas On = Behalf Of Olivier Dugeon Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 4:46 PM To: teas@ietf.org ; internet-drafts@ietf.org = ; i-d-announce@ietf.org = =20 Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt =20 Dear authors, =20 Regarding the different use cases expose in your draft, I'm wondering if = you have take into account distributed path computation as per RFC5441 ? = In particular, when several Network Controller are involved (figures 1, = 4 and 5), you add respectively a Packet/Optical Coordinator, a = Multi-Domain Controller and a Cloud Network Orchestrator. However, when = the different networks are own by different operators, or business unit = within the same operator, it is not always feasible to add this = centralized controller. In this case, TE information must be exchange = directly between lower controller e.g. between TE Domain Controller, DC = Controller and TE Network Controller, Packet and Optical Network = Controller. =20 So, I would understand if the yang model described in your draft allows = such direct exchange or if it must be modified to take into such = scenario ? =20 Regards =20 Olivier =20 Le 22/10/2018 =C3=A0 18:01, internet-drafts@ietf.org = a =C3=A9crit : A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and = Signaling WG of the IETF. =20 Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation Authors : Italo Busi Sergio Belotti Victor Lopez Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Anurag Sharma Yan Shi Ricard Vilalta Karthik Sethuraman Michael Scharf Daniele Ceccarelli Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt Pages : 61 Date : 2018-10-22 =20 Abstract: There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, where the topology information provided by a TE network provider may not be sufficient for its client to perform end-to-end path computation. In these cases the client would need to request the provider to calculate some (partial) feasible paths. =20 This document defines a YANG data model for a stateless RPC to request path computation. This model complements the stateful solution defined in [TE-TUNNEL]. =20 Moreover this document describes some use cases where a path computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or RESTCONF), can be needed. =20 =20 The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation / =20 There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-comput ation-03 =20 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computatio n-03 =20 =20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. =20 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ =20 _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas =20 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas =20 ------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01D4917B.8420BD10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

This seems = very reasonable to me, and I think there are three points to = remember:

 

  1. There is an important difference = between a functional architecture and an implementation/deployment. So, = just as we had all the way back in 4655, functional components may = actually be realised inside different implementation components or as = distinct components. This is illustrated for ACTN in the slides that = Sergio attached.
  2. The ACTN architecture is recursive, = so that a collection of domains may lie under the control of one MSDC, = and another collection of domains under another MSDC, and both MSDCs may = be underneath a parent MSDC.
  3. The issue of multi-operator control = or resources has been a significant challenge for a long, long time (who = recalls Orchestream?). It may be that one day we arrive at a solution = where two operators are willing to use software for dynamic control of = each other=E2=80=99s network, but until then we are likely to rely on a = =E2=80=9Cprotocol=E2=80=9D that involves emails, purchase orders, and = phone calls. From a *functional* point of view this is no = different from the architecture pictures that drawn today, but you might = consider that a parent MSDC is functionally split between the two = operators with decisions heavily influenced by policy, and with the = component actually implemented in human = resources.

 

Best,

Adrian

--

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https://www.feedaread.com/profiles/8= 604/

Available from your favourite = online bookseller.

Or contact me to receive a signed = copy by mail.

 

From: Teas = <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Belotti, Sergio (Nokia = - IT/Vimercate)
Sent: 11 December 2018 17:34
To: = Olivier Dugeon <olivier.dugeon@orange.com>; = internet-drafts@ietf.org; i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc: Igor = Bryskin <Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - = IT/Vimercate) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>; ylee@huawei.com; = teas@ietf.org; Italo Busi = <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt

<= /div>

 

Hi Olivier,

Thanks for your = reply.

The = issue you=E2=80=99re putting on the table is more an architectural = problem than specific for path computation.

You=E2=80=99re right that in = multi-operator context you cannot be sure to have an = =E2=80=9Corchestrator=E2=80=9D top entity able to make collection of = information with respect different operator.

So a first question would be, = independently of path computation, if we , in TEAS, are planning to = address also multi-operator scenario. Considering ACTN architecture , = there are no definition of =E2=80=9Chorizontal=E2=80=9D interface = between domain controllers but it is always implied to have an higher = controller (MDSC) to coordinate relationship among different domain = controllers (e.g.PNC).

On the other hand, as correctly pointed out by Igor, the = flat approach is not so similar to the hierarchical approach since it is = sequential in nature while with hierarchical steps can be provided in = parallel, avoiding the burden to wait the completeness of the previous = VSPT step before starting the new =E2=80=9Cper-domain=E2=80=9D path = computation.

Following the suggested approach from Igor we have drawn = some slides to explain how , even with hierarchical architecture we = could  obtain what you have  in mind e.g. for multi-domain in = multi-operator environment.

The basic point is nothing prevent = , in ACTN architecture, to collapse in a domain controller also higher = controller functionality, and the PNC aggregating the 2 functionality of = domain and higher controller, can be triggered by a PCC of its own = domain of by client application and then can instruct simultaneously the = other domain controller to ask for =E2=80=9Cper domain path = computation=E2=80=9D and then , one obtained computed path from = different PNCs, it can act a =E2=80=9Chigher controller=E2=80=9D and = based on abstracted topology obtained as Igor suggested, can select e2e = paths.

Do = you think this approach can address your request, without changing = architecture ?

 

Thanks

Regards

 

Italo, Young, Sergio

 

 

 

Sergio = Belotti

Senior System Engineer and Standardization = Architect

IP/Optical Networks, Optics = BU

Nokia

M: = +39-335761776

Via Energy Park, 20871 Vimercate (MB) , = Italy

sergio.belotti@nokia.com

 

 

 

 

From: Olivier Dugeon <olivier.dugeon@orange.com&g= t;
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:16 PM
To: = Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>= ; internet-drafts@ietf.org; = i-d-announce@ietf.org
Cc:= teas@ietf.org; Italo Busi = <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt

<= /div>

 

Hello Sergio,

Apologize for the long delay.

For me, "flat" approach, I prefer = the wording 'distributed', versus 'hierarchical' approach are quite = similar. They only differ by the fact that there is one parent asking to = different child about the per-domain path computation, while in the = others, the per-domain path computation is done on a per domain = basis.

In the case of distributed = approach, there is two possibilities to trigger the end-to-end path = computation:

 - An external top = controller e.g. NMS, Orchestrator

 - A PCC

In both cases, the request reach the local = PCE i.e. the PCE of the domain where the top controller or PCC are = connected to. In fact, as there is no central PCE i.e. the parent PCE, = the first PCE which is solicited and that trigger the distributed path = computation is the PCE of the source domain i.e. the domain where the IP = source address of the end point object is located. Normally, once check = that the source end point belongs to its domain, the PCE determine which = is the next peer PCE that it must contact to start the BRPC process. = Once the destination domain is reached, the last PCE i.e. in the = destination domain, starts to compute its part of the end-to-end path = and send back the ERO. As it could be compute several path, the return = paths are named VSPT (Virtual Source Path Tree). The previous PCE when = it received the ERO from the latest PCE start merging its own path = computation with the received one and sends the result to its = predecessor. At the end, the computed paths are received by the first = PCE which merge them with its local path and select the best result. =

What it is not mention in RFC5441, is the = way the AS path i.e. which AS, this which PCE will be involve in the = end-to-end path computation. But, if I remember right, it is the same in = RFC6805. PCE could simply follow the BGP path or perform some local = policy or some computation to determine the next peer PCE. But, this is = independent of the the yang model except if we would provide the AS = path. The best way to do this is to encode in IRO the AS path. We do = that in our implementation.

So, from a yang model perspective, I think = that what is missing in your model it is just an indication to precise = if the end-to-end path is computed in a hierarchical or distributed way. = Adding VSPT flag (like it is defined in RFC5441) could be a preliminary = approach. And in a second time, is the possiblity to specify the AS = path. IMHO, it is not too many entries to add in the current version of = the model.

As already mention in previous = mail, it is important to address this scenario as the hierarchical = scenario is not always possible in particular when the domains are = controlled by different operators.

Regards

Olivier

 

Le 26/10/2018 =C3=A0 18:29, Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - = IT/Vimercate) a =C3=A9crit :

Hi Olivier,
Thanks for your interest in the draft and for your =
question.
draft-ietf-teas-path-computation is providing a Yang model =
request to permit a client-controller to ask server-controller for path =
computation , in particularly when client has not complete knowledge of =
the domain topology for which he has to calculate =
path.
The typical case is =
multi-domain , and I would say RFC 5441 is approaching the problem to =
create a path in a multi-domain environment from a different angle with =
respect what our draft is doing.
RFC5441 is a "flat" scenario and controllers have =
peer to peer relationship.
Our case is a typical hierarchical scenario as mentioned in =
the introduction. We assume information exchange  is top-down and =
bottom-up no horizontal information is exchanged . I would say we are =
trying to solve multi domain issue in a scenario close to what RFC 6805 =
is doing for PCE prospective.
Anyway if you envisage SDN scenarios  in which YANG =
models are used for peer to peer communication among controllers we are =
interested to further investigate them and evaluate whether the existing =
models can be adapted to the scope.
One aspect we would like to better understand in these =
scenarios is how the end-to-end path computation is triggered and =
coordinated.
In the =
hierarchical scenario, the end-to-end path computation is triggered by =
some requests (e.g., LxSM) from the top-level controller which, from the =
abstract topology view it gets from the lower-level controllers, =
understands what are the ingress and egress points of the end-to-end =
path, compute the path in terms of which domains it has to cross (using =
path computation RPC when needed) and coordinate the end-to-end path =
setup (requesting each domain to setup its path =
segment).
In a flat =
scenario, it is not clear how the overall process is started: which is =
the controller that coordinates the end-to-end path setup and how the =
customer knows which controller is going to request the service (e.g., =
LxSM) to trigger the whole process?
 
If you'll =
be in Bangkok for IETF meeting we would be happy to discuss with you =
face to face.
 =

Thanks
 
Italo =
and Sergio
 
 
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Message-----
From: Teas =
<teas-bounces@ietf.org> =
On Behalf Of Olivier Dugeon
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 4:46 =
PM
To: teas@ietf.org; internet-drafts@ietf.org; =
i-d-announce@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt
=
 
Dear authors,
 
Regarding the different use cases expose in your draft, I'm =
wondering if you have take into account distributed path computation as =
per RFC5441 ? In particular, when several Network Controller are =
involved (figures 1, 4 and 5), you add  respectively a =
Packet/Optical Coordinator, a Multi-Domain Controller and a Cloud =
Network Orchestrator. However, when the different networks are own by =
different operators, or business unit within the same operator, it is =
not always feasible to add this centralized controller. In this case, TE =
information must be exchange directly between lower controller e.g. =
between TE Domain Controller, DC Controller and TE Network Controller, =
Packet and Optical Network Controller.
 
So, I =
would understand if the yang model described in your draft allows such =
direct exchange or if it must be modified to take into such scenario =
?
 
Regards
 
Olivier
 
Le =
22/10/2018 =C3=A0 18:01, internet-drafts@ietf.org a =
=C3=A9crit :
A =
New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
This draft =
is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG =
of the IETF.
 
        =
Title           : Yang =
model for requesting Path Computation
        =
Authors         : Italo =
Busi
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Sergio Belotti
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Victor Lopez
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Oscar Gonzalez de =
Dios
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Anurag Sharma
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Yan Shi
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Ricard Vilalta
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Karthik Sethuraman
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Michael Scharf
          =
            &=
nbsp;   Daniele Ceccarelli
   =
Filename        : =
draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03.txt
=
   Pages     =
      : =
61
   =
Date            : =
2018-10-22
 
Abstract:
   There are scenarios, typically in a =
hierarchical SDN context, where
   the topology information provided by a TE =
network provider may not
   be sufficient for its client to perform =
end-to-end path computation.
   In these cases the client would need to =
request the provider to
   calculate some (partial) feasible =
paths.
 
   This document defines a YANG data model for a =
stateless RPC to
   request path computation. This model =
complements the stateful
   solution defined in =
[TE-TUNNEL].
 
   Moreover this document describes some use =
cases where a path
   computation request, via YANG-based protocols =
(e.g., NETCONF or
   RESTCONF), can be =
needed.
 
 
The =
IETF datatracker status page for this draft =
is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computa=
tion
/
 
There =
are also htmlized versions available =
at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-03=

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-co=
mput
ation-03
 
A =
diff from the previous version is available =
at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-path-co=
mputatio
n-03
 
 
Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the =
time of 
submission until =
the htmlized version and diff are available at =
tools.ietf.org.
 
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP =
at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-=
drafts/
 
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list
Teas@ietf.org
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------=_NextPart_000_02C3_01D4917B.8420BD10-- From nobody Thu Dec 13 09:16:00 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F57130DFA; Thu, 13 Dec 2018 09:15:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , teas-chairs@ietf.org, teas@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <154472135255.32043.8935545238842993619.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 09:15:52 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] WG Action: Rechartered Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (teas) X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 17:15:53 -0000 The Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (teas) WG in the Routing Area of the IETF has been rechartered. For additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs. Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (teas) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Current status: Active WG Chairs: Vishnu Beeram Lou Berger Secretaries: Matt Hartley Assigned Area Director: Deborah Brungard Routing Area Directors: Alvaro Retana Deborah Brungard Martin Vigoureux Technical advisors: Adrian Farrel Mailing list: Address: teas@ietf.org To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/teas/ Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/teas/ Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-teas/ The Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling (TEAS) Working Group is responsible for defining IP, MPLS and GMPLS traffic engineering architecture and identifying required related control-protocol functions, i.e., routing and path computation element functions. The TEAS group is also responsible for standardizing RSVP-TE signaling protocol mechanisms that are not related to a specific switching technology. Traffic Engineering (TE) is the term used to refer to techniques that enable operators to control how specific traffic flows are treated within their networks. TE is applied to packet networks via MPLS TE tunnels and LSPs, but may also be provided by other mechanisms such as forwarding rules similar to policy-based routing. The MPLS-TE control plane was generalized to additionally support non-packet technologies via GMPLS. RSVP-TE is the signaling protocol used for both MPLS-TE and GMPLS. Centralized and logically centralized control models are also supported, e.g., via Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN) and stateful-PCE. The TEAS WG is responsible for: a) Traffic-engineering architectures for generic applicability across packet and non-packet networks. This includes, for example, networks that perform centralized computation and control, distributed computation and control, or even a hybrid approach. b) Definition of protocol-independent metrics and parameters (measurement and/or service attributes) for describing links and tunnels/paths required for traffic engineering (and related routing, signaling and path computation). These will be developed in conjunction with requests and requirements from other WGs to ensure overall usefulness. c) Functional specification of extensions for routing (OSPF, ISIS) and for path computation (PCEP), including those that provide general enablers of traffic-engineering systems that may also use RSVP-TE. Protocol formats and procedures that embody these extensions will be done in coordination with the WGs supervising those protocols. d) Functional specification of generic (i.e., not data plane technology-specific) extensions for RSVP-TE, and the associated protocol formats and procedures that embody these extensions. e) Definition of control plane mechanisms and extensions to allow the setup and maintenance of TE paths and TE tunnels that span multiple domains and/or switching technologies, where a domain may be an IGP area, an Autonomous System, or any other region of topological visibility. f) Definition and extension of management and security techniques for TE path and tunnel control. This includes configuring and monitoring RSVP-TE as well as mechanisms used to configure, control, and report OAM within TE networks. YANG and MIB modules may be considered. The TEAS working group is chartered to deliver the following: 1. Definition of additional abstract service, link, and path properties such as jitter, delay, and diversity. Extensions to IGPs to advertise these properties, and extensions to RSVP-TE to request and to accumulate these properties. Work with PCE WG to include these properties in computation requests. 2. Specification of terminology, architecture, and protocol requirements for abstraction and distribution of TE information between interconnected TE domains/layers. 3. Specification and protocol extensions for a GMPLS External Network-to-Network Interface (E-NNI), i.e., multi-domain GMPLS support. 4. Protocol mechanisms to signal associated LSPs in particular with different source nodes. 5. Requirements and protocol extensions for additional protection mechanisms including, for example, end-point protection, protection of P2MP LSPs, and inter-domain protection. 6. YANG models in support of Traffic Engineering, in coordination with working groups working on YANG models for network topology and for technology-specific network attributes. Requirements may be documented in stand-alone RFCs, may be folded into architecture or solutions RFCs, may be recorded on a wiki, or may be documented in an Internet-Draft that is not progressed to RFC. The TEAS WG will coordinate with the following working groups: - With the MPLS WG to maintain and extend MPLS-TE protocol mechanisms and to determine whether they should be generalized. - With the CCAMP WG to maintain and extend non-packet, data plane technology-specific TE protocol mechanisms and to determine whether they should be generalized. - With the LSR (OSPF and ISIS) WG to maintain or extend TE routing mechanisms. - With the PCE WG on uses of a PCE in the traffic-engineering architecture, on PCE extensions per the above, and on RSVP-TE extensions to support PCE WG identified requirements. - With the IDR WG on the use of BGP-LS in TE environments. - With the DetNet WG on mechanisms (YANG models and protocols) to support DetNets. - With the SPRING WG on TE architecture and, where appropriate, TE-related protocol extensions. - With the SFC WG on mechanisms (YANG models and protocols) to support SFCs In doing this work, the WG will cooperate with external SDOs (such as the ITU-T and the IEEE 802.1) as necessary. Milestones: Dec 2018 - Revisit WG status (close if no milestones/deliverables) Apr 2019 - Submit metric recording to IESG for publication Apr 2019 - Submit TE LSP Yang Models to IESG for publication Sep 2019 - Submit RSVP(-TE) Yang Models to (base and MPLS) IESG for publication Oct 2019 - Submit SR&L3 TE Topology Yang Models to IESG for publication Nov 2019 - Submit TE Yang Models informational document to IESG for publication Nov 2019 - Submit PCECC and Native IP documents to IESG for publication Dec 2019 - Submit ACTN YANG Models to IESG for publication Dec 2019 - Submit RMR specific RSVP document(s) to IESG for publication Jan 2020 - Submit SF Aware TE Topology YANG Model to IESG for publication From nobody Sun Dec 16 23:03:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA312130E09; Sun, 16 Dec 2018 23:03:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: 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+0800 Message-ID: <007601d49678$f11e1730$d35a4590$@org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01D496BB.FF415730" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdSV2fHuhx29ES8qQcS5xeA5FSoF6QAmfRxw Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kIGBQJHllBS1VLV1koWUFKTEtLSjdXWS1ZQUlXWQkOFx4IWUFZMjUtOj cyP0FLVUtZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6NlE6Ljo6PzkOShciNwxRGSpN NU8aCklVSlVKTk9OS0JCQkhJTklCVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxMWVdZCAFZQUpKT05CNwY+ X-HM-Tid: 0a67bf21e6ea9373kuws3814e6639b2 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgV0cgYWRvcHRpb24gcG9sbCAtIGRyYWZ0?= =?utf-8?q?-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 02:25:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01D496BB.FF415730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/Support. =20 I think this documents gives us the overall description/analysis about = the gap between the requirements of VPN+ service and the existing = technologies and solution. =20 My concern are the followings: 1) In section = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-4.6.2= , it is said :=E2=80=9DThis section discusses how the features of ACTN = can fulfill the enhanced VPN requirements described earlier in this = document.=E2=80=9D.=20 We need further analysis about the = implementation/deployment/protocol extension etc. that ACTN has not = covered. 2) We should focus on the packet network, that is to say, the = =E2=80=9CPragmatic Isolation=E2=80=9D or dynamic isolations/assurances = for enhanced VPN services.=20 =20 Best Regards. =20 Aijun Wang Network 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Yes/Support.

 

I think this documents gives us the overall description/analysis = about the gap between the requirements of VPN+ service and the existing = technologies and solution.

 

My =C2=A0concern are the followings:

1) In section https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#sec= tion-4.6.2, it is said :=E2=80=9DThis section discusses how the = features of ACTN can fulfill the enhanced VPN requirements described = earlier in this document.=E2=80=9D.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0We need further analysis about the = implementation/deployment/protocol extension etc. that ACTN has not = covered.

2) We should focus on the packet network, that is to say, the = =C2=A0=E2=80=9CPragmatic Isolation=E2=80=9D or dynamic = isolations/assurances for enhanced VPN services. =

 

Best Regards.

 

Aijun Wang

Network R&D and Operation Support = Department

China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, = China.

 

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Vishnu Pavan Beeram = [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com]
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2018=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=8817=E6=97=A5 = 15:27
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: TEAS = WG
=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: TEAS WG Chairs
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Teas] WG adoption poll - = draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03

 

All,

This is start of a = *three* week poll on making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS = working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating = "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If = indicating no, please state your reservations with the
document. If = yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see = addressed once the document is a WG = document.

The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for = the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and = Lou

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RFC3272 (Overview and Principles of Internet Traffic Engineerin= g, May 2002) has served us well over the years, but (as mentioned during th= e WG session in Montreal) we believe that it is time to revisit this docume= nt and cover some of the newer TE principles, paradigms, functions and requ= irements in detail.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
We are looking to establish a short= lived Design Team to put together an RFC3272bis document. The goal of the = Design Team will be to present planned changes in Prague and publish a draf= t in time for discussion in Montreal (IETF 105, July 2019), with an expecta= tion that the document will become a WG draft post the Montreal session.
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If you would like to be a part of this De= sign Team, please do reach out to the chairs (off-list) before Jan 7th, 201= 9.
=C2=A0
Regards,
Pavan and Lou
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=?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiBXRyBhZG9wdGlvbiBwb2xsIC0gZHJhZnQt?= =?utf-8?q?dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:44:41 -0000 Working Group, I'm finally through reading the the document, I think it is very good starting point for the working group process, including the discussion Aijun point to as necessary. /Loa On 2018-12-18 10:25, Aijun Wang wrote: > Yes/Support. > > I think this documents gives us the overall description/analysis about > the gap between the requirements of VPN+ service and the existing > technologies and solution. > > My  concern are the followings: > > 1) In section > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-4.6.2, > it is said :”This section discusses how the features of ACTN can fulfill > the enhanced VPN requirements described earlier in this document.”. > >     We need further analysis about the > implementation/deployment/protocol extension etc. that ACTN has not covered. > > 2) We should focus on the packet network, that is to say, the >  “Pragmatic Isolation” or dynamic isolations/assurances for enhanced > VPN services. > > Best Regards. > > Aijun Wang > > Network R&D and Operation Support Department > > China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, China. > > *发件人:*Vishnu Pavan Beeram [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com] > *发送时间:*2018年12月17日15:27 > *收件人:*TEAS WG > *抄送:*TEAS WG Chairs > *主题:*[Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > All, > > This is start of a *three* week poll on making > draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Tue Dec 18 03:00:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554DC1310FE; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 03:00:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham 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X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 13:43:11 -0000 The TEAS WG has placed draft-he-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp in state Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Vishnu Beeram) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-he-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp/ Comment: IPR Poll: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/HmnoD_NCcFDBgdt7Xs1WJbK6rc8 Responses: hejia@huawei.com https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/Mrf02dTzM5g_XZ71LD73IB--NxQ Italo Busi https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/snf9Xpm9G-3Pc5xGny8pce79xNg From nobody Tue Dec 18 06:07:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBC31200B3; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:07:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, 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a *three* week poll on making draft-he-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp a TEAS working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends Jan 8th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). Thanks, Pavan and Lou --0000000000002e8074057d4c6ac2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on making
draft-he-teas-gmpls-signaling-smp a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Jan 8th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou
--0000000000002e8074057d4c6ac2-- From nobody Tue Dec 18 06:38:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD17127AC2; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:38:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E0N196ZnQF0B; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qk1-x72a.google.com (mail-qk1-x72a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BCA1126CC7; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qk1-x72a.google.com with SMTP id 68so9568936qke.9; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:38:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=q912RFgcTuNmM4KsXDXT8+WOXWuyJ8SI50z1HuXSEVE=; b=bd/YEaA2d0/mZFjLVGiMe8E81oji9M+QdGvOqccfU7W2UeQ7UsRxcg2cS0SHKQLUHe LrWXa0Olf8jZ5sR0l+zxKASmmugOsrltfxTtDUDD6yRGzYkdu2Y85QWOwzCm+2ewz+DV 44bua+GF3KrFL0PnQOpMaCDnILv8+ZBObb6XTsnWs52lGeYPhLkfvmzsRUPX2C2VR5R+ 2V3f7OaF0HGp4H0jVqvVDrR4Pwmv2lJAft/Y8dK0CcD1iOMnOeroA5rmh9uZc6u9EpEE CmjHJuV0qjlVkbtcBCHQRV2e5IqwUAKTiKO4YlPhmciTrrpNJ/bPgoHuHGOpnOw07gyv yy4w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=q912RFgcTuNmM4KsXDXT8+WOXWuyJ8SI50z1HuXSEVE=; b=HGwh4VMJ45+/4WVcdSdRFcZxgOpcFea7kcadtaRid/GFnBUyhZncQdR9nzPJzWFEan 1FFBLyZKngE63zp45aUpAiTMULq1Zp8pCO9sgQXlwS2N2ji0UoWU6XeiYyp+3vBG0bpd /yXTpph8OoSQVnKSWLKaEo1KBsQX3qR7+1YtA4TOHT1lgdrDjfoQqQuzoqZwi7yPz83J ONCKfIOCOCwpzqHh47Nf/ixqo2CwI7YoikzReaGlUdzWezIj0ktfKjCDDvelmlPKOh8f wEH4NhjK+HqprlPrFXrZhnOClHgLkWaAl+wb9NyBPDciZVJxVHAc6nxWZsMKGZPuYJXL d8ww== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWajFs+T4HAqsrSo6CxkQ188y1hwZx5VOL69SxBduFGrHHSWq44H uRGcz91FLDgSYTOWQMjO8TiOE1SGMl5td3NheYo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/WjuhhtFvM24vnd5KSpb4TOP34UhJ8sNQNNupwNqhzwtJBLo3/5sVGJQk0oXDty7gi+x9otIc8Pw7ehaRKO1b4= X-Received: by 2002:a37:7a06:: with SMTP id v6mr15772554qkc.10.1545143902957; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 06:38:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 09:38:11 -0500 Message-ID: To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: teas@ietf.org, TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007675fe057d4cd973" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 14:38:27 -0000 --0000000000007675fe057d4cd973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes/support. This is a scalable approach for network slicing and enhanced VPNs that builds on a body of existing work. Cheers, Andy On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a *three* week poll on making > draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --0000000000007675fe057d4cd973 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes/support. This is a scalable approach for network slici= ng and enhanced VPNs that builds on a body of existing work.

=
Cheers,
Andy


On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM Vishnu Pavan Bee= ram <vishnupavan@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou
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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TEAS is the right place where to continue this discussion as i believe = this is extremely connected to traffic engineering and a lot of TEAS = work can be reused, hence I support the adoption of the document. BR Daniele =20 -----Original Message----- From: Teas On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: den 18 december 2018 10:45 To: teas@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Teas] =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: WG adoption poll - = draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 Working Group, I'm finally through reading the the document, I think it is very good = starting point for the working group process, including the discussion = Aijun point to as necessary. /Loa On 2018-12-18 10:25, Aijun Wang wrote: > Yes/Support. >=20 > I think this documents gives us the overall description/analysis about = > the gap between the requirements of VPN+ service and the existing=20 > technologies and solution. >=20 > My concern are the followings: >=20 > 1) In section > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03#section-4. > 6.2, it is said :=E2=80=9DThis section discusses how the features of = ACTN can=20 > fulfill the enhanced VPN requirements described earlier in this=20 > document.=E2=80=9D. >=20 > We need further analysis about the=20 > implementation/deployment/protocol extension etc. that ACTN has not = covered. >=20 > 2) We should focus on the packet network, that is to say, the > =E2=80=9CPragmatic Isolation=E2=80=9D or dynamic = isolations/assurances for enhanced=20 > VPN services. >=20 > Best Regards. >=20 > Aijun Wang >=20 > Network R&D and Operation Support Department >=20 > China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute,Beijing, = China. >=20 > *=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:*Vishnu Pavan Beeram = [mailto:vishnupavan@gmail.com] > = *=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4:*2018=E5=B9=B412=E6=9C=8817=E6=97=A5= 15:27 > *=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:*TEAS WG > *=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81:*TEAS WG Chairs > *=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98:*[Teas] WG adoption poll - = draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 >=20 > All, >=20 > This is start of a *three* week poll on making=20 > draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not=20 > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the=20 > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like = > to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >=20 > The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). >=20 > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >=20 --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas ------=_NextPart_000_0298_01D4972C.ECF659B0 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIVeTCCAyAw ggIIoAMCAQICAR0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwOTELMAkGA1UEBhMCRkkxDzANBgNVBAoTBlNvbmVy 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Best Regards,
Zhenbin(Robin)


From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 3:27 PM
To: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03

All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

--_000_A9B7B9EBB1894BFE9E8862B6BE396126_-- From nobody Tue Dec 18 18:06:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC48130DC8; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:06:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6lHGyL-F0ete; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mandala.kddilabs.jp (mandala.kddilabs.jp [IPv6:2001:200:601:12::16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE231276D0; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mandala.kddilabs.jp [127.0.0.1]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6189C0EF647; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:06:14 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kddi-research.jp Received: from mandala.kddilabs.jp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mandala.kddilabs.jp [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wj6CbHUsVS7z; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:06:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from safeattach.localdomain (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:601:1a00:20c:29ff:fe79:2280]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C07ADC0EF646; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:06:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from [172.19.124.101] (dhcp101.west-4f.cn.kddilabs.jp [172.19.124.101]) by safeattach.localdomain with ESMTP id wBJ26CgQ028526; Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:06:12 +0900 To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs References: From: Takuya Miyasaka Message-ID: <675ffeff-90af-8602-da81-b2b65e8528dd@kddi-research.jp> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 11:06:12 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CAE2D546C316860EC0139FFE" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 02:06:21 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CAE2D546C316860EC0139FFE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes/support as a coauthor. Regards, Takuya On 2018/12/17 16:26, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a *three* week poll on making > draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --------------CAE2D546C316860EC0139FFE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

yes/support as a coauthor.

Regards,
Takuya

On 2018/12/17 16:26, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

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Malis" Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 12:51:19 -0500 Message-ID: To: John E Drake Cc: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , TEAS WG Chairs , teas@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fc8597057d63a964" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 17:51:34 -0000 --000000000000fc8597057d63a964 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Did you read the text in section 1 and elsewhere in the draft? Specifically, the draft says "The general concept of network slicing in a TE network is a larger problem space than is addressed by VPN+ or VN, but those concepts are tools to address some aspects or realizations of network slicing." My comment was that is an approach for slicing, but I didn't claim that it's a total solution. As far as scalability goes, see the discussion in section 5 regarding the scalability benefits of using an approach based on SR. Once this becomes a WG draft, you're welcome to propose new text to address any particular concerns you have with the current text. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:46 AM John E Drake wrote: > Andy, > > > > Network slicing is very different from what is described in this draft. > Network slicing envisions a small number of logical networks built using > the same physical network, each of which is designed for a specific type = of > overlay network and a given VPN, depending upon its requirements, would b= e > assigned to one or more of these network slices. This draft, in contrast= , > is describing assignment of resources from the physical network to > individual VPNs. > > > > This is clearly absurd, and its characterization as a =E2=80=98scalable a= pproach=E2=80=99 > seems ill-considered. > > > > This draft is also not a framework draft in any of the normally used > definitions of that word ( > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/framework). Rather, I would > characterize it as a set of semi-random musings. > > > > Yours Irrespectively, > > > > John > > > > *From:* Teas *On Behalf Of * Andrew G. Malis > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:38 AM > *To:* EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs ; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Yes/support. This is a scalable approach for network slicing and enhanced > VPNs that builds on a body of existing work. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: > > All, > > This is start of a *three* week poll on making > draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > --000000000000fc8597057d63a964 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,

Did you read the= text in section 1 and elsewhere in the draft? Specifically, the draft says= "The general concept of network slicing in a TE network is a larger= =C2=A0 problem space than is addressed by VPN+ or VN, but those concepts ar= e tools to address some aspects or realizations of network slicing." M= y comment was that is an approach for slicing, but I didn't claim that = it's a total solution. As far as scalability goes, see the discussion i= n section 5 regarding the scalability benefits of using an approach based o= n SR.

Once this becomes a WG draft, you're wel= come to propose new text to address any particular concerns you have with t= he current text.

Cheers,
Andy
=

On We= d, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:46 AM John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> wrote:

Andy,

=C2=A0

Network slicing is very different from what is descr= ibed in this draft.=C2=A0 Network slicing envisions a small number of logic= al networks built using the same physical network, each of which is designe= d for a specific type of overlay network and a given VPN, depending upon its requirements, would be assigned to one= or more of these network slices.=C2=A0 This draft, in contrast, is describ= ing assignment of resources from the physical network to individual VPNs.= =C2=A0

=C2=A0

This is clearly absurd, and its characterization as = a =E2=80=98scalable approach=E2=80=99 seems ill-considered.

=C2=A0

This draft is also not a framework draft in any of t= he normally used definitions of that word (https://www.merriam-webs= ter.com/dictionary/framework).=C2=A0 Rather, I would characterize it as a set of semi-random musings.

=C2=A0

Yours Irrespectively,

=C2=A0

John

=C2=A0

From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of = Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:38 AM
To: E= XT-vishnupavan@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

Yes/support. This is a scalable approach for network= slicing and enhanced VPNs that builds on a body of existing work.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Andy

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram = <vishnupavan@= gmail.com> wrote:

All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

_______________________________________________
Teas mailing list
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https://www.ietf.org/ma= ilman/listinfo/teas

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Vishnu and Lou:

 

I have read the document.=C2=A0 Support adoption as a good starting = point for this work.

 

Susan Hares

 

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Cc: TEAS WG Chairs
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[IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6BB13115E; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:46:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: teas@ietf.org Message-ID: <154532799542.19156.14833324547812482475@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:46:35 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 17:46:36 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) extension for recording TE Metric of a Label Switched Path Authors : Clarence Filsfils Julien Meuric Kenji Kumaki Deutsche Telekom AG Filename : draft-ietf-teas-te-metric-recording-08.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2018-11-16 Abstract: There are many scenarios in which Traffic Engineering (TE) metrics such as cost, delay and delay variation associated with the TE link formed by Label Switched Path (LSP) are not available to the ingress and egress nodes. This draft provides extensions for the Resource ReserVation Protocol- Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support automatic collection of cost, delay and delay variation information for the TE link formed by a LSP. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Dec 20 10:42:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6A5130EAF; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:42:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LytK_RaiGM2H; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.iomartmail.com (mta5.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 845D9130E83; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (vs2.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.123]) by mta5.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wBKIgSbx016702; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:42:28 GMT Received: from vs2.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id A613922044; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:42:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.249]) by vs2.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 904F222042; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:42:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V (lfbn-lyo-1-439-80.w2-7.abo.wanadoo.fr [2.7.32.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id wBKIgQFj000918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:42:28 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Vishnu Pavan Beeram'" , "'TEAS WG'" Cc: "'TEAS WG Chairs'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:42:26 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <000d01d49893$c253e700$46fbb500$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01D49893.C254AA50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJSfbZ5usQjYmHvekEzB6et9SnRb6SMKhcw Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 2.7.32.80 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24304.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--25.513-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--25.513-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24304.001 X-TMASE-Result: 10--25.513000-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: WMT2WRIkHPPxIbpQ8BhdbHBRIrj8R47FOmYflf7Pjn3oN8DSoota+SGZ 6VVOVYeW9J4YisFxtmhwDU0Nie6UX1VBWgEsQzu0aDCzqDR7DPago7yEQ1t1y9Q7R95qD2m5VNE b/igMznCGGXuUR3ZPz+O88YEy06CA9bPHgjnnomC8coKUcaOOvQebMc7dN8D4m2qn9S/frZSlot IpKkeKLlBoFaKZDnqMiGqaQoQr3RVEXwnTCGfm3f0peXGEEBlvmHAp2UJ8+TxXG3yI9k2vbCWeO HilL0WHP5mpBtPr/e4BZOsOGHKpoUjlo2JU8qCxmHJeAYKlcpNxtWYlDuRQpY9osn8JrdJP2fDF GIaTVjOh/9Db0raJ+12/J3quhJk9oi8K/V7jzhkiPTMUjkOgki1RIwMdx4yumCNknSXswf8SkGd mQt+XWfCm8Bq5g9qRFABeLgZr0ZEfE8yM4pjsD4MbH85DUZXyAzmRhRrMoRWw7M6dyuYKg+EmMB EXHLXtaDUny085mKfyIwNH2SsAaSjsb5p7ta+EO7WiSS9/LRI= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 18:42:35 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01D49893.C254AA50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 I did a pretty substantive review of the previous version of this = document, and the updates addressed my concerns. =20 This is work that is within the TEAS charter, in my opinion, and I think = it is important to have a foundation/framework document as an anchor = before people run off and invent protocol extensions. =20 I support adopting this as a working group document. =20 Best, Adrian =20 From: Teas On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: 17 December 2018 07:27 To: TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 =20 All, This is start of a *three* week poll on making draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. 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Hi,

 

I did a = pretty substantive review of the previous version of this document, and = the updates addressed my concerns.

 

This is = work that is within the TEAS charter, in my opinion, and I think it is = important to have a foundation/framework document as an anchor before = people run off and invent protocol extensions.

 

I support = adopting this as a working group document.

 

Best,

Adrian

 

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Cc: TEAS WG = Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] WG = adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03

 

All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on = making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group = document.
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document. If = yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
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The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for = the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and = Lou

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This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : Traffic Engineering Common YANG Types Authors : Tarek Saad Rakesh Gandhi Xufeng Liu Vishnu Pavan Beeram Igor Bryskin Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-02.txt Pages : 75 Date : 2018-12-23 Abstract: This document defines a collection of common data types and groupings in YANG data modeling language. These derived common types and groupings are intended to be imported by modules that model Traffic Engineering (TE) configuration and state capabilities. 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Malis" Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 09:33:49 -0500 Message-ID: To: John E Drake Cc: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" , Igor Bryskin , "EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com" , TEAS WG Chairs , "teas@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000de5bfe057dc57cf5" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2018 14:34:04 -0000 --000000000000de5bfe057dc57cf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Does RFC 3209 have any guidance on how many RSVP-TE sessions you can run simultaneously in a network, or a node? It's obviously both implementation and deployment dependent. Why is this draft any different? Cheers, Andy On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:49 AM John E Drake wrote: > Comments inline > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 24, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > Please see inline. > > > > Best regards, > > Jie > > > > *From:* John E Drake [mailto:jdrake@juniper.net ] > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2018 9:15 PM > *To:* Dongjie (Jimmy) ; Igor Bryskin < > Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>; Andrew G. Malis ; > EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs ; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Hi, > > > > Comment inline > > > > Yours Irrespectively, > > > > John > > > > *From:* Dongjie (Jimmy) > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:47 PM > *To:* John E Drake ; Igor Bryskin < > Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>; Andrew G. Malis ; > EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs ; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Hi John, > > > > This draft does not suggest to allocate network resources to each > individual VPN, only the VPNs which require particular level of SLA need = to > be integrated with underlay network resources, thus the number of enhance= d > VPN would be much less than the number of traditional overlay VPNs. Also = it > is possible that several VPNs with similar characteristics could be > assigned with a set of aggregated resources, and would share the same > logical network. > > > > *[JD] I don=E2=80=99t recall any such discussion in the draft. Further,= what is > the maximum # of VPN+ instances supported in a given network such that th= at > network does not implode?* > > > > [Jie] Such discussion happened during the presentation on previous IETF > meetings, the current draft doesn't mandate the mapping of each individua= l > VPN to dedicated logical network with resources allocated. > > > JD. I am going to compile a list of statements > that the draft makes that would lead one to a > different conclusion > > That said, we could add some clarification in future version. The number > of enhanced VPNs would depend on the number of services and customers whi= ch > have such level of SLA requirement. > > > > > JD So, you have no guidance to offer? > > > > Best regards, > > Jie > > > > *From:* Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org ] *On > Behalf Of *John E Drake > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:14 PM > *To:* Igor Bryskin ; Andrew G. Malis < > agmalis@gmail.com>; EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs ; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Igor, > > > > I am not convinced that network slicing is a good idea because it assumes > that logical networks w/ vastly different characteristics can be built ou= t > of a set of common network resources. I am convinced that allocating > network resources on a per-VPN basis is a bad idea because of the scaling > issues. > > > > Yours Irrespectively, > > > > John > > > > *From:* Igor Bryskin > *Sent:* Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:55 AM > *To:* John E Drake ; Andrew G. Malis < > agmalis@gmail.com>; EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs ; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Hi John, > > > > Do you see any differences between a logical network and a network > topology? Specifically, would you define network slices as produced by th= e > same physical network sufficiently separated network topologies, each of > which designed for specific class(es) of clients/overlays, with network > resources available for the overlays limited by the resource pools > allocated to the corresponding topologies? Another question: could networ= k > slices in your opinion be built hierarchically, i.e. higher level slices > comprised of lower level ones? > > > > Thanks, > > Igor > > > > *From:* Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org ] *On > Behalf Of *John E Drake > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:46 AM > *To:* Andrew G. Malis; EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Andy, > > > > Network slicing is very different from what is described in this draft. > Network slicing envisions a small number of logical networks built using > the same physical network, each of which is designed for a specific type = of > overlay network and a given VPN, depending upon its requirements, would b= e > assigned to one or more of these network slices. This draft, in contrast= , > is describing assignment of resources from the physical network to > individual VPNs. > > > > This is clearly absurd, and its characterization as a =E2=80=98scalable a= pproach=E2=80=99 > seems ill-considered. > > > > This draft is also not a framework draft in any of the normally used > definitions of that word ( > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/framework > ). > Rather, I would characterize it as a set of semi-random musings. > > > > Yours Irrespectively, > > > > John > > > > *From:* Teas *On Behalf Of *Andrew G. Malis > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:38 AM > *To:* EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs ; teas@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-03 > > > > Yes/support. This is a scalable approach for network slicing and enhanced > VPNs that builds on a body of existing work. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: > > All, > > This is start of a *three* week poll on making > draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays). > > Thanks, > Pavan and Lou > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > > --000000000000de5bfe057dc57cf5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,

Does RFC 3209 have any guidance o= n how many RSVP-TE sessions you can run simultaneously in a network, or a n= ode? It's obviously both implementation and deployment dependent. Why i= s this draft any different?

Cheers,
Andy=


= On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 7:49 AM John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> wrote:
Comments inline=C2=A0

Sent = from my iPhone

On Dec 24, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com> wrote:

Hi John,

=C2=A0

Please see inline.

=C2=A0

Best regards,

Jie

=C2=A0

From: John E Drake [mailto:jdrake@juniper.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:15 PM
To: Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com>; Igor Bryskin <Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>= ;; Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>; EXT-vishnupa= van@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

Hi,

=C2=A0

Comment inline

=C2=A0

Yours Irrespectively,=

=C2=A0

John

=C2=A0

From: Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong@huawei.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:47 PM
To: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>; Igor Bryskin <Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>; An= drew G. Malis <ag= malis@gmail.com>; EXT-vishnupa= van@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

Hi John,

=C2=A0

This draft does not suggest to allocate network resources = to each individual VPN, only the VPNs which require particular level of SLA= need to be integrated with underlay network resources, thus the number of enhanced VPN would be much less than the num= ber of traditional overlay VPNs. Also it is possible that several VPNs with= similar characteristics could be assigned with a set of aggregated resourc= es,=C2=A0 and would share the same logical network.

=C2=A0

[JD]=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99= t recall any such discussion in the draft.=C2=A0 Further, what is the maxim= um # of VPN+ instances supported in a given network such that that network = does not implode?

=C2=A0

[Jie] Such discussion happened during the presentation on = previous IETF meetings, the current draft doesn't mandate the mapping o= f each individual VPN to dedicated logical network with resources allocated.


JD. I am going to compile a list of statements=C2=A0
that the draft makes that would lead one to a
different conclusion=C2=A0

That said, we could add some clarification in future versi= on. The number of enhanced VPNs would depend on the number of services and = customers which have such level of SLA requirement.

=C2=A0


JD =C2=A0So, you have no guidance to offer?

=C2=A0

Best regards,

Jie

=C2=A0

From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John E Drake
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:14 PM
To: Igor Bryskin <Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>; Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>; EXT-vishnupa= van@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

Igor,

=C2=A0

I am not convinced that network= slicing is a good idea because it assumes that logical networks w/ vastly = different characteristics can be built out of a set of common network resou= rces.=C2=A0 I am convinced that allocating network resources on a per-VPN basis is a bad idea because of the scaling = issues.

=C2=A0

Yours Irrespectively,=

=C2=A0

John

=C2=A0

From: Igor Bryskin <Igor.Bryskin@huawei.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 9:55 AM
To: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>; Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>; EXT-vishnupa= van@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

= Hi John,

= =C2=A0

= Do you see any differences between a logical network and a network topology= ? Specifically, would you define network slices as produced by the same phy= sical network sufficiently separated network topologies, each of which designed for specific class(es) of clients/overl= ays, with network resources available for the overlays limited by the resou= rce pools allocated to the corresponding topologies? Another question: coul= d network slices in your opinion be built hierarchically, i.e. higher level slices comprised of lower level= ones?

= =C2=A0

= Thanks,

= Igor

= =C2=A0

From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John E Drake
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:46 AM
To: Andrew G. Malis; EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs; teas@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

Andy,

=C2=A0

Network slicing is very differe= nt from what is described in this draft.=C2=A0 Network slicing envisions a = small number of logical networks built using the same physical network, eac= h of which is designed for a specific type of overlay network and a given VPN, depending upon its requirements, would= be assigned to one or more of these network slices.=C2=A0 This draft, in c= ontrast, is describing assignment of resources from the physical network to= individual VPNs.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

This is clearly absurd, and its= characterization as a =E2=80=98scalable approach=E2=80=99 seems ill-consid= ered.

=C2=A0

This draft is also not a framew= ork draft in any of the normally used definitions of that word (https://www.merriam-we= bster.com/dictionary/framework).=C2=A0 Rather, I would characterize it as a set of semi-random musings.=

=C2=A0

Yours Irrespectively,=

=C2=A0

John

=C2=A0

From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 9:38 AM
To: E= XT-vishnupavan@gmail.com <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>; teas@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-= 03

=C2=A0

Yes/support. This is a scalable= approach for network slicing and enhanced VPNs that builds on a body of ex= isting work.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Andy

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:27 AM= Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:

All,

This is start of a *three* week poll on making
draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends Jan 7th 2019 (extra week to account for the holidays).

Thanks,
Pavan and Lou

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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:11:21 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : A Yang Data Model for ACTN VN Operation Authors : Young Lee Dhruv Dhody Daniele Ceccarelli Igor Bryskin Bin Yeong Yoon Qin Wu Peter Park Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03.txt Pages : 54 Date : 2018-12-30 Abstract: This document provides a YANG data model for the Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered (TE) networks (ACTN) Virtual Network Service (VNS) operation. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Dec 30 20:20:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811A91277CC for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oFSa2zZenWkk for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FFA1127598 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 9377D81684D8F for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:20:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:20:36 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.179]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.154]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Sun, 30 Dec 2018 20:20:28 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "teas@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHUoL7u6idFlCf6z0Skr3G3pkaQxqWYPX7A Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:20:27 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0AC889@sjceml521-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <154622948126.7128.7858110587673306348@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <154622948126.7128.7858110587673306348@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.152.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:20:42 -0000 Hi, This is to update per comments raised up in IETF 103 meeting to make this m= odel applicable not only in an ACTN context but also in generic context out= side of ACTN context as an independent VN model in and of itself.=20 Please see the below diff pointer to see the difference from the previous v= ersion. Please let us know in case you have any question or comment.=20 Thanks & Best regards, Young (on behalf of other co-authors) -----Original Message----- From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:11 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : A Yang Data Model for ACTN VN Operation Authors : Young Lee Dhruv Dhody Daniele Ceccarelli Igor Bryskin Bin Yeong Yoon Qin Wu Peter Park Filename : draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03.txt Pages : 54 Date : 2018-12-30 Abstract: This document provides a YANG data model for the Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered (TE) networks (ACTN) Virtual Network Service (VNS) operation. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas