From nobody Mon Jun 1 01:50:29 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9503A0E5E for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 01:50:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JVIuBbP_Mhhk for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 01:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (m176115.mail.qiye.163.com [59.111.176.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB9143A0E5C for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 01:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP2IOH5QC (unknown [219.142.69.78]) by m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id A775A6637B5; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 16:50:16 +0800 (CST) From: "Aijun Wang" To: "'Dhruv Dhody'" Cc: "'Lou Berger'" , "'TEAS WG'" References: <000b01d637b2$ed5fe740$c81fb5c0$@org.cn> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 16:50:16 +0800 Message-ID: <000001d637f1$ac126120$04372360$@tsinghua.org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQHrch2koau6AsTPJe3Sstn5Aez+KQGhMOalqIvWTrA= Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kfGhgUHx5ZQUtXWQgYFAkeWUFZS1VPQ09LS0tOS09LSk1DTE1ZV1koWU FKTEtLSjdXWS1ZQUlXWQ8JGhUIEh9ZQVkSTisyOBw4IxwSEzIMHykeOEsqCjo6VlZVTEgoSVlXWQ kOFx4IWUFZNTQpNjo3JCkuNz5ZV1kWGg8SFR0UWUFZNDBZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6MjI6Kxw5GDg4NxgvDk4RKkIs HQIwCUlVSlVKTkJKS0tKT0lKQk5JVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxDWVdZCAFZQUpMSEpKNwY+ X-HM-Tid: 0a726f1304569373kuwsa775a6637b5 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgV0cgTGFzdCBDYWxsOiBkcmFmdC1pZXRm?= =?utf-8?q?-teas-pce-native-ip-06?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:50:28 -0000 HI, Dhruv: I update the draft according to your comments, as illustrated below = inline. If we can make the conclusion, I will update and submit the draft = according to our consensus. Or else, would you like to give additional = suggestions? Please see =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91 Best Regards. Aijun Wang China Telecom -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: teas-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Dhruv Dhody =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=881=E6=97=A5 = 13:12 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Aijun Wang =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: Lou Berger ; TEAS WG = =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-06 Hi Aijun, Thanks for your reply, please see inline... On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 6:51 AM Aijun Wang = wrote: > > Hi, Dhruv: > > We have updated the draft according your comments, please view it=20 > again and wish to get your comments on the update. > > For the document track, we want to ask chair to change it from=20 > "Experimental" to "Standard". The reasons for this change are the > followings: While the question is for the chairs, but IMHO the experimental track is = the correct for this work and my review was based on that. > 1. Central control component is necessary for various=20 > networks/technologies to accomplish the E2E QoS assurance, such as=20 > MPLS, SRv6. and Native IP network. > 2. Native IP network deployment is the trending in near future,=20 > alongside the emerge of Cloud Overlay solution. While these *might* be true, there are a lot of unknowns (some of them = highlighted in my review) that need to be worked through. Doing this as = an experiment to gain knowledge and expertise in the use of PCEP and BGP = in this way is the right way forward. When I asked to define the scope = of the experiment, it was not to question the experimental track for = this I-D. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91: OK, let it stay at experimental track then.=20 > 3. It needs to standardize the process and PCEP protocol extension to=20 > assure the interoperability. > This is in the scope of PCE I-D and not this one. > Welcome also the comments from other experts. > > Please see the detail responses below inline. > > My replies are inline. I have trimmed to those comments that need = further discussion. > > Best Regards. > > Aijun Wang > China Telecom > > -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: teas-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Dhruv=20 > Dhody > (2) We need to add some text that describes the experimental nature of = > this work. Something in line with > > The procedures described in this document are experimental. The > experiment is intended to enable research for the usage of PCE in > native IP scenarios. For this purpose, this document describe the > CCDR framework and the PCEP extension is specified in > [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91We have asked the TEAS chair to change the track = to "Standard".=20 > Wait for the response from the chair. The reasons for this are stated = at above. > See above. > (3) Section 1 > > We should be clear on where are these requirements coming from. Can we = > say that they are based on the scenarios listed in RFC 8735(?), so it=20 > does not read out of place. More importantly, the list is a mix of=20 > technology choices, deployment limitations, and abstract philosophy;=20 > calling them requirement may be a stretch. Further, > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91These requirements are proposed based on the = scenarios described=20 > in RFC8735. When we want to adopt or develop some technologies, we=20 > should evaluation them in various aspects. How about this change then - OLD: [RFC8735] describes the scenarios and simulation results for traffic engineering in native IP network. To meet the requirements of various scenarios, the solution for traffic engineering in native IP network should have the following criteria: NEW: [RFC8735] describes the scenarios and simulation results for traffic engineering in the native IP network to provide End-to-End (E2E) = performance assurance and QoS using PCE based central control, referred to as Centralized Control Dynamic Routing (CCDR). Based on the various = scenarios and analysis as per [RFC8735], the solution for traffic engineering = in native IP network should have the following criteria: END =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91: OK, Updated in next version. > > o No complex Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) signaling > procedures. > > Why signaling alone? Isn't data-plane as native IP, one of the key > requirements? > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91For MPLS to achieve the Traffic Engineering aim, = the complex part=20 > is the signaling, network node must preserve the machine state during=20 > signaling. The data plane itself is straightforward. > Since this is native IP, MPLS in dataplane (even though it is simpler) = is a no-go! Maybe you can put Native IP as the very first criteria and = then this would make more sense. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91Combine another requirements with the this and = form the first new requirement as " Support native IPv4 and IPv6 traffic = in the same solution, no complex signaling procedures among network = nodes like MPLS-TE and MPLS data plane." > o End to End traffic assurance, determined Quality of Service = (QoS) > behavior. > > Should we specify that this in the control plane? > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91This is the ultimate aim the technology selection = and design aim=20 > of the control plane. > This is handled only at the controller (and the network nodes might not = be aware of any of this), think of how you could highlight that. Ignore if you think if it is implicit. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91Change to "Achieve End to End traffic assurance, = determined QoS behavior". This is the requirement for the solution, and = candidate solution may have controller or not. > o Flexible deployment and automation control. > > IMHO too generic (and marketing). > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Just want to express the solution should adjust = the path=20 > dynamicly and not the static planning. > Ah, say that instead :) =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91How about " Adjust the optimal path dynamically = upon the change of network status. No physical links resources planning = in advance." > Also, please describe CCDR in the Introduction. Jumping directly into=20 > example in section 4 is not right. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91:Add the following description to explain the = CCDR: " It depends=20 > on the central control (PCE) element to compute the optimal path for=20 > selected traffic, and utilizes the dynamic routing behavior of=20 > traditional IGP/BGP protocols to forward such traffic. " > Ok, I added some text in the comment (3), that should help too. > (5) Section 4, > - I am not sure why the description is in terms of address pairs > (IP11, IP21) and (IP12, IP22) - what happens if one sends traffic > from IP11 to IP22? I guess the forwarding would be based on > destination IP22 and the traffic would be sent to the link > associated with it? Doesn't it make more sense to describe things in > terms of IP prefix? > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91=EF=BC=9AYou are right. The forwarding is based = on destination address.=20 > Use the pair just want to show normally the application requires=20 > bi-direction assurance. Actually, the two directions can be deployed=20 > separately, same as the MPLS LSP. > If you want to use PF11 to PF21, say explicitly that this example is for = bi-directional assurance. If not, just say traffic to PF21. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91Make the following change (add the description = "bi-direction" before the word "traffic") OLD: After the above actions, the traffic between the PF11 and PF21, and the = traffic between PF12 and PF22 will go through different physical links = between R1 and R2, each set of traffic pass through different dedicated = physical links. NEW: After the above actions, the bi-direction traffic between the PF11 and = PF21, and the bi-direction traffic between PF12 and PF22 will go through = different physical links between R1 and R2, each set of traffic pass = through different dedicated physical links. > (6) Section 6, you have - > > It is almost impossible to provide an End-to-End (E2E) path with > latency, jitter, packet loss constraints to meet the above > requirements in large scale IP-based network via the distributed > routing protocol... > > Well flex-algo to some extent could do this. So maybe reword this... > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91The deployment of Flex-algo requires the = allocation of links into=20 > different groups in advance. We think it will lead to the=20 > inefficiently usage of physical links. > The "almost impossible" in the original statement isn't true right? Just reword it. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91How about add "efficiently" and make the final = sentence as " It is almost impossible to provide an End-to-End (E2E) = path efficiently with latency, jitter, packet loss constraints to meet = the above requirements in large scale IP-based network via the = distributed routing protocol..." > (9) Section 10, > > The PCE should have the capability to calculate the loop-free E2E > path upon the status of network condition and the service > requirements in real time. > > This is true for any PCE, don't think it belongs in Security = consideration. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Change the sentence as " A PCE assures = calculations of E2E path=20 > upon the status of network condition and the service requirements in = real time." > Could not parse, do you mean - A PCE needs to assure the calculation of the E2E path based on the = status of the network and the service requirements in real-time. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91Update the document according to your = suggestions. > This section needs to be improved as one can use PCEP to create bogus=20 > BGP sessions and we need to consider what would be impact on that.=20 > Further what would be the impact of incorrect prefix, can this be used = > to misdirect traffic. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Currently, we assumed the interaction between PCE = and the=20 > underlying devices is secured, via the PCEPS, as described in RFC8253. = > The PCE and their communication is authorized/authenticated. It seems=20 > impossible to encounter bogus bgp seesion and incorrect prefix? > IMHO the best way to state the security analysis would be to describe = how the procedure in this I-D could be exploited & list the possible = attack vectors. Then state that the PCEP speakers need to use RFC8253 to = make sure this doesn't happen. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91=EF=BC=9AHow about the following descriptions: The setup of BGP session, prefix advertisement and explicit peer route = establishment are all controlled by the PCE. To prevent the bogus PCE to = send harmful messages to the network nodes, the network devices should = authenticate the validity of PCE and keep secures communication channel = between them. Mechanism described in RFC 8253 should be used to avoid = such situation. > (10) Other considerations - Few things that are missing - > > - PCE and PCEP considerations - Stateful nature of PCE, path state at > the PCE, synchronization of the state etc > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91These depend on the existing mechanism. No = special requirements. > Would you like to provide some text or thoughts? > I think this I-D need to be explicit about the use of stateful PCE and = PCECC. This might be added even in the introduction to set the stage = correctly. It should also talk about the state of paths (explicit peer route) and state that the existing mechanisms could be reused. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91-07 version has mentioned RFC 4655 and RFC 8283. = Is that enough? > - Multi-domain case - as that is listed as a key benefit of CCDR. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Add sentence at the "Scalability" part: "For = multiple domain=20 > deployment, the PCE need only control the edge router to build=20 > multiple eBGP sessions, all other procedures are the same that in one = domain." > Are you assuming a single PCE for multiple domains? What happens in the = case of multiple PCE? Also, not sure what happens to the explicit peer route based on the = above statement that you added? =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91a single PCE or PCE pool to cover these domains = that under the control of one administrator. The messages to the network = devices from PCE is sent separately.=20 > - Impact of dynamic BGP session created based on CCDR. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91No extra impact. Similar that you build multiple = BGP sessions via=20 > configuration. There is a difference between sessions created by configuration v/s = sessions created dynamically. Such as ephemeral nature, handling of = misconfigurations, default values, number of such dynamic sessions etc. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91=EF=BC=9Asection 6 of the version 07 has state = the ephemeral status of these sessions. Can such consideration be = expanded in the PCEP extension draft? > - Impact of "explicit peer routes" and their interaction with other > routes. > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Add some sentence at section "PCEP extension for = key parameter"=20 > as > below: > "The explicit route created by PCE has the higher priority than the=20 > route information created by other protocols, including the route=20 > manually configured I guess you need to state that it is the job of the administrator to = ensure that. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91How about add "route preference" description and = change this sentence to "The explicit route created by PCE has the = higher priority (lower route preference) than the route information = created by other protocols, including the route manually configured."=20 > All above dynamically created states (BGP sessions, Prefix advertised=20 > prefix, Explict route) will be cleared once the connection between the = > PCE and network devices is interrupted. > These parts will be considered in more detail in protocol extension = draft. > This should be cleared on the expiration of state timeout interval based = on the local policy, otherwise, service would have an immediate impact = on the PCEP session flap. Reword it to say that state cleanup could be = based on the existing Stateful PCE and PCECC mechanism. =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91How about "All above dynamically created states = (BGP sessions, Prefix advertised prefix, Explicit route) will be cleared = on the expiration of state timeout interval which is based on the = existing Stateful PCE(RFC8231) and PCECC(RFC8283) mechanism." I would suggest adding the 'other considerations' section and adding = explicit text for these - you could state that some of them would be handled by extension I-D, - you can state some procedures remain the same, - you can say no impact at all - just say something :) =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91=EF=BC=9AAfter above update, can "deployment = consideration" cover all of them? Or else, we add another sub section = under the "deployment consideration"? Thanks! Dhruv _______________________________________________ Teas mailing list Teas@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Mon Jun 1 10:46:40 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5023A1395 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:46:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oT6OzfFOH163 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd29.google.com (mail-io1-xd29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86EDC3A1394 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 10:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd29.google.com with SMTP id h4so4560962iob.10 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 10:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T5cAM90I3uhQmubsJ4bpgW14WfXv6SmltiU2qpe0PTQ=; b=Nb6bkaP2mOsg+u7GT5HBZgOPQdKgerS5q0zh6XcCDDQafKdgc4TrFmmH1NmDi9VU6s 70zKAfbpbj0ZKTc6HzLs5/qpcZv3hwI5pkqORDa8sF9jRgObzPQ9HXN/g2dToy5Msn0x Yypjjberkbr4J66Na8enZXeAVg8c8B8MrOL7hQtzUeM0NYrZhu/gZIfD+I19jLmkHzjb yrt6El3aTpvQKgp5EbBqaoXU06TYeuCDXRnLCdEXduomgbJI2z7K8alrrZWi9AKZeVeh 6jCt0tAPWEN7ohVKwSDn7v/waWlkFYc7tQIKpCkgjYrU36/ukNCh+0tpk++bp8taJoBR L/UA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T5cAM90I3uhQmubsJ4bpgW14WfXv6SmltiU2qpe0PTQ=; b=ugnt1imtlsAC+GAjEyfn4XPLS0yF7Fc9pcRO3+G9WFBq+pYuUCuSlAMCd7fc+0jksT h4HMSdFjXbsJ6/dDK5rmmoog03vAq1aVNMXJTv5dPQchED8kEx6Z6nt5pkNK8UyWyjkb 1GKuHTMXCTb+ukaIhXG+kkZy5YrC/RlSDNHW7y/UQXJAD6HdkxpRlgHXXTLe6uSCpEGa qr3iiZwB89R64X7mXu1vj16VZfOzpzQVMo6UtlialN6bu/ch/FHgOFl5AlJl6a782L1o oojt/auGAWyKS5rI7cHzliDg6n12MKpL7XOCMS/63uGM4Zc2fIfr0ZEIa6QiIcliVG/V l6cQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530X/mP6i9e8mthcf68BZTSrRQotoNXtj9FJ1N6BG3OV8F3LPAke csXDfqC1cRhamb8TIOkCdokPy+xbDYY61wMjsUfy5u/QAqg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxln7tsPZ0UdZF+MloCjA9GxqDxWV2wrtPkC1epowvMSOYeJnNBdTGi7pVGMGAWKxxVJZtCz3/vN0RsP9VNBgE= X-Received: by 2002:a02:c848:: with SMTP id r8mr21387912jao.15.1591033595286; Mon, 01 Jun 2020 10:46:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000b01d637b2$ed5fe740$c81fb5c0$@org.cn> <000001d637f1$ac126120$04372360$@tsinghua.org.cn> In-Reply-To: <000001d637f1$ac126120$04372360$@tsinghua.org.cn> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 23:15:57 +0530 Message-ID: To: Aijun Wang Cc: Lou Berger , TEAS WG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-06 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 17:46:38 -0000 Hi Aijun, Snipping to few comments that need discussion, see inline... > While these *might* be true, there are a lot of unknowns (some of them hi= ghlighted in my review) that need to be worked through. Doing this as an ex= periment to gain knowledge and expertise in the use of PCEP and BGP in this= way is the right way forward. When I asked to define the scope of the expe= riment, it was not to question the experimental track for this I-D. > =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91: OK, let it stay at experimental track then. > Also, consider adding the text I proposed describing the experiment scope. > > > (5) Section 4, > > - I am not sure why the description is in terms of address pairs > > (IP11, IP21) and (IP12, IP22) - what happens if one sends traffic > > from IP11 to IP22? I guess the forwarding would be based on > > destination IP22 and the traffic would be sent to the link > > associated with it? Doesn't it make more sense to describe things in > > terms of IP prefix? > > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91=EF=BC=9AYou are right. The forwarding is based on= destination address. > > Use the pair just want to show normally the application requires > > bi-direction assurance. Actually, the two directions can be deployed > > separately, same as the MPLS LSP. > > > > If you want to use PF11 to PF21, say explicitly that this example is for = bi-directional assurance. If not, just say traffic to PF21. > > > =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91Make the following change (add the description "bi= -direction" before the word "traffic") > OLD: > After the above actions, the traffic between the PF11 and PF21, and the t= raffic between PF12 and PF22 will go through different physical links betwe= en R1 and R2, each set of traffic pass through different dedicated physical= links. > > NEW: > After the above actions, the bi-direction traffic between the PF11 and PF= 21, and the bi-direction traffic between PF12 and PF22 will go through diff= erent physical links between R1 and R2, each set of traffic pass through di= fferent dedicated physical links. > Ok, please do this change in all the instances. > > (10) Other considerations - Few things that are missing - > > > > - PCE and PCEP considerations - Stateful nature of PCE, path state at > > the PCE, synchronization of the state etc > > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91These depend on the existing mechanism. No special= requirements. > > Would you like to provide some text or thoughts? > > > > I think this I-D need to be explicit about the use of stateful PCE and PC= ECC. This might be added even in the introduction to set the stage correctl= y. It should also talk about the state of paths (explicit peer > route) and state that the existing mechanisms could be reused. > =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91-07 version has mentioned RFC 4655 and RFC 8283. I= s that enough? > Suggest adding this in Introduction - Stateful PCE [RFC8231] specifies a set of extensions to PCEP to enable stateful control of paths such as MPLS-TE LSPs between and across PCEP sessions in compliance with [RFC4657]. It includes mechanisms to affect state synchronization between PCCs and PCEs, delegation of control of LSPs to PCEs, and PCE control of timing and sequence of path computations within and across PCEP sessions. Furthermore, [RFC8281] specifies a mechanism to dynamically instantiate LSPs on a PCC based on the requests from a stateful PCE or a controller using stateful PCE. [RFC8283] introduces the architecture for PCE as a central controller as an extension of the architecture described in [RFC4655] and assumes the continued use of PCEP as the protocol used between PCE and PCC. [RFC8283] further examines the motivations and applicability for PCEP as a Southbound Interface (SBI), and introduces the implications for the protocol. > > > - Multi-domain case - as that is listed as a key benefit of CCDR. > > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Add sentence at the "Scalability" part: "For multi= ple domain > > deployment, the PCE need only control the edge router to build > > multiple eBGP sessions, all other procedures are the same that in one d= omain." > > > > Are you assuming a single PCE for multiple domains? What happens in the c= ase of multiple PCE? > Also, not sure what happens to the explicit peer route based on the above= statement that you added? > =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91a single PCE or PCE pool to cover these domains th= at under the control of one administrator. The messages to the network devi= ces from PCE is sent separately. > Inter-domain in PCE also involves the use of per-domain PCE and case in which per-domain PCE interact with say a parent-PCE. I feel that you are assuming that a single PCE or a PCE pool is responsible for all domains and thus there is no much difference between intra-domain and inter-domain for you. You should state that clearly, something like - "In the scope of this experiment for inter-domain case, a single PCE or a pool of PCEs is responsible for multiple domains." > > - Impact of "explicit peer routes" and their interaction with other > > routes. > > =E3=80=90WAJ=E3=80=91Add some sentence at section "PCEP extension for k= ey parameter" > > as > > below: > > "The explicit route created by PCE has the higher priority than the > > route information created by other protocols, including the route > > manually configured > > I guess you need to state that it is the job of the administrator to ensu= re that. > =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91How about add "route preference" description and c= hange this sentence to "The explicit route created by PCE has the higher pr= iority (lower route preference) than the route information created by other= protocols, including the route manually configured." > How about this - By making sure that the explicit route created by PCE has the higher priority (lower route preference) than the route information created by any other protocols (including the route manually configured)= , the path selected by PCE is used at the node. > I would suggest adding the 'other considerations' section and adding expl= icit text for these > - you could state that some of them would be handled by extension I-D, > - you can state some procedures remain the same, > - you can say no impact at all > - just say something :) > > =E3=80=90WAJ-3=E3=80=91=EF=BC=9AAfter above update, can "deployment consi= deration" cover all of them? Or else, we add another sub section under the = "deployment consideration"? > One section is fine! Thanks! Dhruv From nobody Mon Jun 1 19:25:06 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E933A084C; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:25:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.1.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: teas@ietf.org Message-ID: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 19:25:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 02:25:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : PCE in Native IP Network Authors : Aijun Wang Boris Khasanov Quintin Zhao Huaimo Chen Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2020-06-01 Abstract: This document defines the framework for traffic engineering within native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and PCE -based central control architecture. The procedures described in this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to enable research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For this purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic Routing (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jun 1 19:34:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A593A0061 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:34:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oYufT0CTWwyy for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (m176115.mail.qiye.163.com [59.111.176.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 316163A0045 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP2IOH5QC (unknown [219.142.69.75]) by m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id 0B9396651AC; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 10:33:50 +0800 (CST) From: "Aijun Wang" To: "'Lou Berger'" , "'Dhruv Dhody'" Cc: References: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 10:33:48 +0800 Message-ID: <000f01d63886$3f817470$be845d50$@tsinghua.org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJKrdzT0OrxafXBQu9kLmSGRcdusKfbrqYw Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kfGhgUHx5ZQUtXWQgYFAkeWUFZS1VJS0lLS0tJSk5NT0JNS05ZV1koWU FKTEtLSjdXWS1ZQUlXWQ8JGhUIEh9ZQVktFilPOBw*IxQMSTUODy0eLEwYDTo6VlZVSU4oSVlXWQ kOFx4IWUFZNTQpNjo3JCkuNz5ZV1kWGg8SFR0UWUFZNDBZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6MD46OAw5Qzg5ER8eMU4iORBD AjJPCjJVSlVKTkJKS01OSUhOSUNPVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxOWVdZCAFZQUhMTE43Bg++ X-HM-Tid: 0a7272e0bb4f9373kuws0b9396651ac Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogIEktRCBBY3Rpb246IGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtdGVh?= =?gb2312?b?cy1wY2UtbmF0aXZlLWlwLTA4LnR4dA==?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 02:34:03 -0000 Hi, Lou and Dhruv: The update version addresses mainly the comments from Dhruv. 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Title : PCE in Native IP Network Authors : Aijun Wang Boris Khasanov Quintin Zhao Huaimo Chen Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2020-06-01 Abstract: This document defines the framework for traffic engineering within native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and PCE -based central control architecture. The procedures described in this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to enable research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For this purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic Routing (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. 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There have been comments and once all are addressed the document will be submitted for publication as Experimental. Authors, Thank you for being so proactive in addressing comments. Please send a summary of all changes made to address LC comments. All, If you made comments, it would be helpful to confirm that the current updated version addresses your comment(s). Thank you! Lou ---------- On May 15, 2020 2:59:20 PM Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > This starts a two-week working group last call for > draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-06 > > NOTE: IPR has been disclosed -- see > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip > > The working group last call ends on May 29. > Please send your comments to the working group mailing list. > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document > and believe it is ready for publication", are welcome! > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > Thank you, > Lou (TEAS Co-Chair & doc Shepherd) > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Tue Jun 2 03:31:03 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179013A081C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:30:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2iipz_RFi2Uy for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd2b.google.com (mail-io1-xd2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA3233A086C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 03:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd2b.google.com with SMTP id k18so10313193ion.0 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 03:30:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OouqK7wks5yKiJzWczhtaHsW+phl1KV/3jJABL9ZuXc=; b=KRrSCR69zPp3Cfxh++NbnV9fgjdMO0WnIB4ctOIY0AmIv/4SA6ZtgsICtcX1qvYEQR brtkeJfnYkhrBx4odk1VscOcad98oeQCSn+huS3Ov+h5ThXRCSmaPGSDVDSzjDcfkEau U7rugib62c/lLYzlA+8kySmQBHu2GBc57IRK7mUa5TYsiGY80xiJNHs6RQHo/554J4u5 iR7dstJEv4enPolqskQc482JNUgF/qYzniSJ5ByAFmLi+QkWuLWooSuyqO/NdFWxgPIC OuT/c6X5A8ibZ8ThLSqhmpE0RKQPoLzm9Xq1M7OmuUzKSgACPSUEqJHsA0+iprAvV7ml EaJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OouqK7wks5yKiJzWczhtaHsW+phl1KV/3jJABL9ZuXc=; b=DNukIzYt+3Ak7z1bWIZwSNgktfBMFmgNyhLkdGXYy07rERX9C1MYuqp1dPQDsX5oQT gxYQRToenKEn3XIIln1pD4bEBlXBNhJDSvTVvw0hhyO1GRgAcC24QpVEBed5KpCEFxZ2 0NfI9L6mjasK5yNj6POCgsbrCOW7vDjStCqyQg/Oh6YniTTILT0J+amjy4l/WTBL0c88 rax1QHCvMZMrA5mPcaStDlkPK7VnE8ZqvRik2/3SssOldtnlb3ZFQ/4L0+jwMh/HgJv8 evNxoQiP2TWTevAeqiGpgQos3GF8Gcxd7mtUmTiDs29duIEXKnvDHSoradLUhR6eNGlZ HQrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532gtZVzaFHLRB9VYZMYIJTJx9EV0D6P7KIj3x+iR1vbTBgvja8P y2KdIp1fuZ9BkNlI7jIEIYxK7VBqd+uV6ox5UGwx1nXw X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzv6qXK8SUeF+65KgMHOmbb4SvPFo6dRFYapWQyQN6BqLH7hFx29YPlzoVe8a246fm+udxI38nnQZDtpQ6DMGA= X-Received: by 2002:a5e:de03:: with SMTP id e3mr22602467iok.0.1591093852905; Tue, 02 Jun 2020 03:30:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> <000f01d63886$3f817470$be845d50$@tsinghua.org.cn> In-Reply-To: <000f01d63886$3f817470$be845d50$@tsinghua.org.cn> From: Dhruv Dhody Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 16:00:16 +0530 Message-ID: To: Aijun Wang Cc: Lou Berger , "TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 10:31:02 -0000 Hi Aijun, Thank you for handling most of my technical comments. Non-blocking note - I would encourage the authors to keep thinking about improving the deployment consideration section. I just noted some points from the top of my head (it was not meant to be an exhaustive list), I hope it could help you to think about adding more clarity on the scope of the experiment, provide high-level detail and maybe point to the PCEP extension for actual details. Thanks! Dhruv On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Aijun Wang wrote= : > > Hi, Lou and Dhruv: > > The update version addresses mainly the comments from Dhruv. Please revie= w > it. > Further comments and suggestions are also welcome > > If no other comments, can we ship this document out of the WG then? > > Best Regards. > > Aijun Wang > China Telecom > > > -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: teas-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:teas-bounces@i= etf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 > internet-drafts@ietf.org > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=882=E6=97=A5 1= 0:25 > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: i-d-announce@ietf.org > =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: teas@ietf.org > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.t= xt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > Title : PCE in Native IP Network > Authors : Aijun Wang > Boris Khasanov > Quintin Zhao > Huaimo Chen > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt > Pages : 13 > Date : 2020-06-01 > > Abstract: > This document defines the framework for traffic engineering within > native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and PCE > -based central control architecture. The procedures described in > this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to enable > research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For this > purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic Routing > (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in > [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > From nobody Tue Jun 2 18:05:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABDF3A118B for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9z4OZPyDlDkz for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (m176115.mail.qiye.163.com [59.111.176.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 204C73A118A for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP2IOH5QC (unknown [219.142.69.75]) by m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id 43AED664E31; Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:04:45 +0800 (CST) From: "Aijun Wang" To: "'Lou Berger'" , "'TEAS WG'" References: <147e62a8-91c6-12f4-4575-b3a3813e67bc@labn.net> <17274749180.277b.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <17274749180.277b.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:04:44 +0800 Message-ID: <000001d63942$f82d2020$e8876060$@tsinghua.org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQMf5M6e4ui8y6QH1rEkJR16qEgt7ADjtfQzpiuYK0A= Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kfGhgUHx5ZQUtXWQgYFAkeWUFZS1VJSkhLS0tKSEhNSEhNSk9ZV1koWU FKTEtLSjdXWS1ZQUlXWQ8JGhUIEh9ZQVkPTisyOBw6SBVCNg9CQiEeIxYMSDo6VlZVTEwoSVlXWQ kOFx4IWUFZNTQpNjo3JCkuNz5ZV1kWGg8SFR0UWUFZNDBZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6PhA6IQw*IjgzER43ThkDCFE5 GUkwFBJVSlVKTkJKSk9NSUJLT05JVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxOWVdZCAFZQU9LSEM3Bg++ X-HM-Tid: 0a7277b5891b9373kuws43aed664e31 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?gb2312?b?tPC4tDogIFdHIExhc3QgQ2FsbDogZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi10?= =?gb2312?b?ZWFzLXBjZS1uYXRpdmUtaXAtMDY=?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 01:04:58 -0000 Hi, Lou: The summary of the changes during the WG LC comments are the followings: 1. Add description to explain the document's experimental track status, = to incentive more researches on its applications and experiences from the community. 2. Illustrate more clearly on the requirements of candidate solutions. 3. Add reference to the based architecture RFC documents, such as = RFC8231, RFC8283. "PCE in native IP" solution can rely on these exist mechanisms. 4. Redraw all figures in the document to make the solution be stated = more clearly. 5. State more clearly about the "Deploy Consideration" and = =A1=B0Security Considerations=A1=B1, Further considerations can be expanded in the = related PCEP extension draft. 6. Additional editorial nits. Are the above enough? Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: teas-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Lou > Berger > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2020=C4=EA6=D4=C22=C8=D5 17:55 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: TEAS WG > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [Teas] WG Last Call: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-06 >=20 > All, >=20 > The Last Call is closed. There have been comments and once all are > addressed the document will be submitted for publication as = Experimental. >=20 > Authors, >=20 > Thank you for being so proactive in addressing comments. Please send a > summary of all changes made to address LC comments. >=20 > All, >=20 > If you made comments, it would be helpful to confirm that the current > updated version addresses your comment(s). >=20 > Thank you! > Lou >=20 >=20 > ---------- > On May 15, 2020 2:59:20 PM Lou Berger wrote: >=20 > > All, > > > > This starts a two-week working group last call for > > draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-06 > > > > NOTE: IPR has been disclosed -- see > > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-ietf-t= e > > as-pce-native-ip > > > > The working group last call ends on May 29. > > Please send your comments to the working group mailing list. > > > > Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it > > is ready for publication", are welcome! > > This is useful and important, even from authors. > > > > Thank you, > > Lou (TEAS Co-Chair & doc Shepherd) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Tue Jun 2 18:22:00 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843403A11AE for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:21:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wt1s3PKGSo6k for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (m176115.mail.qiye.163.com [59.111.176.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F34AE3A11A9 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP2IOH5QC (unknown [219.142.69.75]) by m176115.mail.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id 6600B66501C; Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:21:44 +0800 (CST) From: "Aijun Wang" To: "'Dhruv Dhody'" Cc: "'Lou Berger'" , "'TEAS WG'" References: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> <000f01d63886$3f817470$be845d50$@tsinghua.org.cn> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:21:43 +0800 Message-ID: <000101d63945$57b2f180$0718d480$@tsinghua.org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJKrdzT0OrxafXBQu9kLmSGRcdusAMjJdUJAfDREGWntIqPwA== Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kfGhgUHx5ZQUtXWQgYFAkeWUFZS1VITE5LS0tKTENDSkhCSE9ZV1koWU FKTEtLSjdXWS1ZQUlXWQ8JGhUIEh9ZQVkcISsyOBw5SBVIGBRQQiEeJBkiSDo6VlZVTkwoSVlXWQ kOFx4IWUFZNTQpNjo3JCkuNz5ZV1kWGg8SFR0UWUFZNDBZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6Myo6Pjo5ETgzLx4xGU4qODIu OVEwCy5VSlVKTkJKSk9MSEpLTUxOVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxOWVdZCAFZQU1IT0s3Bg++ X-HM-Tid: 0a7277c516539373kuws6600b66501c Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAgSS1EIEFjdGlvbjogZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi10?= =?utf-8?q?eas-pce-native-ip-08=2Etxt?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2020 01:21:59 -0000 Hi, Dhruv: We will update the deployment consideration section continuously in the = following stages.=20 And we can also keep in mind that the existing mechanisms described in = RFCs about PCE and their application in MPLS network can be reused in = the application of PCE in native IP network. Adding the central control to the existing network is the trend of = network evolution. CCDR solution described in this document can improve = the E2E performance of native IP network that controlled by one = administrator, and reuse the capabilities of existing deployed network = devices in large extend.=20 Thanks again for your comments and suggestions on this draft. We can = discuss more on the protocol extension draft later. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom > -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Dhruv Dhody [mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com] > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=882=E6=97=A5 18:30 > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Aijun Wang > =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: Lou Berger ; TEAS WG = (teas@ietf.org) > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt >=20 > Hi Aijun, >=20 > Thank you for handling most of my technical comments. >=20 > Non-blocking note - I would encourage the authors to keep thinking = about > improving the deployment consideration section. I just noted some = points > from the top of my head (it was not meant to be an exhaustive list), I = hope it > could help you to think about adding more clarity on the scope of the > experiment, provide high-level detail and maybe point to the PCEP = extension > for actual details. >=20 > Thanks! > Dhruv >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Aijun Wang > wrote: > > > > Hi, Lou and Dhruv: > > > > The update version addresses mainly the comments from Dhruv. Please > > review it. > > Further comments and suggestions are also welcome > > > > If no other comments, can we ship this document out of the WG then? > > > > Best Regards. > > > > Aijun Wang > > China Telecom > > > > > > -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: teas-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 > > internet-drafts@ietf.org > > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=882=E6=97=A5 10:25 > > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: i-d-announce@ietf.org > > =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: teas@ietf.org > > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture = and > > Signaling WG of the IETF. > > > > Title : PCE in Native IP Network > > Authors : Aijun Wang > > Boris Khasanov > > Quintin Zhao > > Huaimo Chen > > Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt > > Pages : 13 > > Date : 2020-06-01 > > > > Abstract: > > This document defines the framework for traffic engineering = within > > native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and PCE > > -based central control architecture. The procedures described in > > this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to = enable > > research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For this > > purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic = Routing > > (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in > > [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > > From nobody Thu Jun 4 05:39:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EB63A0A29; 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--_000_AM0PR03MB4499A03C46A28A22693EAA439D890AM0PR03MB4499eurp_-- From nobody Sun Jun 7 14:39:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5033A09C3 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 14:39:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GvMaLdZoEPSx for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 14:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DDF73A09C1 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 14:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CMGW (unknown [10.9.0.13]) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC03B17658B for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 15:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id i30zjmn6QtoKZi30zjNvCQ; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 15:39:37 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=J/Ha1EvS c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=dLZJa+xiwSxG16/P+YVxDGlgEgI=:19 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10 a=Vy_oeq2dmq0A:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zT09LpwfAAAA:8 a=wU2YTnxGAAAA:8 a=mbP36JvdIbDdxPqUkJoA:9 a=nzD8Fu8EkPp_49S-:21 a=uPUgDuJTNrVZaUtx:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 a=hksshU0T4_nG3tge8lZI:22 a=Yz9wTY_ffGCQnEDHKrcv:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UbmrQwy+q+8LOhu2p14A4ARY67d8kwUqCJjcBxcOw7k=; b=k46s8NxnVBsmTfu3nGNtP8LHXF aGbWSluCZ++EiEDXbBjrBzABYUFEnJAx8DYYctvS2VDSYBNDOohao3vzqNaf0Vx9MNEo7bkNKuTDf hYCOmwn6puFau/fcS989sYzsM; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=19835 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ji30z-002QhI-I6; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 15:39:37 -0600 To: Aijun Wang , 'Dhruv Dhody' Cc: 'TEAS WG' References: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> <000f01d63886$3f817470$be845d50$@tsinghua.org.cn> <000101d63945$57b2f180$0718d480$@tsinghua.org.cn> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 17:39:28 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000101d63945$57b2f180$0718d480$@tsinghua.org.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Source-L: Yes X-Exim-ID: 1ji30z-002QhI-I6 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([IPv6:::1]) [127.0.0.1]:19835 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiBJLUQgQWN0aW9uOiBkcmFmdC1pZXRmLXRl?= =?utf-8?q?as-pce-native-ip-08=2Etxt?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 21:39:42 -0000 Authors,     Please let the WG know when you have your final revision ready for submission to the IESG.  Note, please ensure the idnits issues (see https://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt) are corrected in this final version. Lou On 6/2/2020 9:21 PM, Aijun Wang wrote: > Hi, Dhruv: > > We will update the deployment consideration section continuously in the following stages. > And we can also keep in mind that the existing mechanisms described in RFCs about PCE and their application in MPLS network can be reused in the application of PCE in native IP network. > > Adding the central control to the existing network is the trend of network evolution. CCDR solution described in this document can improve the E2E performance of native IP network that controlled by one administrator, and reuse the capabilities of existing deployed network devices in large extend. > > Thanks again for your comments and suggestions on this draft. We can discuss more on the protocol extension draft later. > > > Best Regards > > Aijun Wang > China Telecom > >> -----邮件原件----- >> 发件人: Dhruv Dhody [mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com] >> 发送时间: 2020年6月2日 18:30 >> 收件人: Aijun Wang >> 抄送: Lou Berger ; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) >> 主题: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt >> >> Hi Aijun, >> >> Thank you for handling most of my technical comments. >> >> Non-blocking note - I would encourage the authors to keep thinking about >> improving the deployment consideration section. I just noted some points >> from the top of my head (it was not meant to be an exhaustive list), I hope it >> could help you to think about adding more clarity on the scope of the >> experiment, provide high-level detail and maybe point to the PCEP extension >> for actual details. >> >> Thanks! >> Dhruv >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Aijun Wang >> wrote: >>> Hi, Lou and Dhruv: >>> >>> The update version addresses mainly the comments from Dhruv. Please >>> review it. >>> Further comments and suggestions are also welcome >>> >>> If no other comments, can we ship this document out of the WG then? >>> >>> Best Regards. >>> >>> Aijun Wang >>> China Telecom >>> >>> >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: teas-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 >>> internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> 发送时间: 2020年6月2日 10:25 >>> 收件人: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>> 抄送: teas@ietf.org >>> 主题: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt >>> >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and >>> Signaling WG of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : PCE in Native IP Network >>> Authors : Aijun Wang >>> Boris Khasanov >>> Quintin Zhao >>> Huaimo Chen >>> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt >>> Pages : 13 >>> Date : 2020-06-01 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document defines the framework for traffic engineering within >>> native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and PCE >>> -based central control architecture. The procedures described in >>> this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to enable >>> research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For this >>> purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic Routing >>> (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in >>> [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip/ >>> >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Teas mailing list >>> Teas@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >>> > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Sun Jun 7 18:41:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E7E3A08DD; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 18:41:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.1.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: teas@ietf.org Message-ID: <159158047906.13077.16350977616902819152@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 18:41:19 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-09.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 01:41:19 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling WG of the IETF. Title : PCE in Native IP Network Authors : Aijun Wang Boris Khasanov Quintin Zhao Huaimo Chen Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-09.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2020-06-07 Abstract: This document defines the framework for traffic engineering within native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and PCE -based central control architecture. The procedures described in this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to enable research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For this purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic Routing (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in draft ietf- pce-pcep-extension-native-ip. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-09 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Jun 7 18:50:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA213A090C for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 18:50:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P0v0OQTZkXFd for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 18:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-m127101.qiye.163.com (mail-m127101.qiye.163.com [115.236.127.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7FE93A090A for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 18:50:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DESKTOP2IOH5QC (unknown [219.142.69.75]) by mail-m127101.qiye.163.com (Hmail) with ESMTPA id C37BA45D71; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:50:19 +0800 (CST) From: "Aijun Wang" To: "'Lou Berger'" , "'Dhruv Dhody'" Cc: "'TEAS WG'" References: <159106470141.2251.13707533426166671606@ietfa.amsl.com> <000f01d63886$3f817470$be845d50$@tsinghua.org.cn> <000101d63945$57b2f180$0718d480$@tsinghua.org.cn> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:50:16 +0800 Message-ID: <000001d63d37$28e4fec0$7aaefc40$@tsinghua.org.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJKrdzT0OrxafXBQu9kLmSGRcdusAMjJdUJAfDREGUCbOig4wJ0GJwDp5VpFdA= Content-Language: zh-cn X-HM-Spam-Status: e1kfGhgUHx5ZQUpXWQgYFAkeWUFZS1VLWVdZKFlBSkxLS0o3V1ktWUFJV1 kPCRoVCBIfWUFZQ0sfSE4ZHhpNQhodVkpOQkpOQ0pLSUtLSU5VEwETFhoSFyQUDg9ZV1kWGg8SFR 0UWUFZT0tIVUpKS0hKTFVKS0tZBg++ X-HM-Sender-Digest: e1kMHhlZQR0aFwgeV1kSHx4VD1lBWUc6MTY6Iyo5HTgyThEZCR8ZC0g2 DzwKFAlVSlVKTkJKTkNKS0lLSUJDVTMWGhIXVQwaFRwaEhEOFTsPCBIVHBMOGlUUCRxVGBVFWVdZ EgtZQVlJSkJVSk9JVU1CVUxOWVdZCAFZQUNPTUI3Bg++ X-HM-Tid: 0a72919f0f089865kuuuc37ba45d71 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?utf-8?b?562U5aSNOiAg562U5aSNOiBJLUQgQWN0aW9uOiBkcmFm?= =?utf-8?q?t-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08=2Etxt?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 01:50:27 -0000 Hi, Lou: I have updated the draft to correct the idnits issues that raised by the = idnits tools: 1) Use the reference in the abstract part------use the name of mentioned = draft directly. 2) Editorial nits for one reference----correct it. It is ready now for the submission to the IESG. Thanks in advance for your efforts. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom > -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: teas-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Lou > Berger > =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=888=E6=97=A5 5:39 > =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Aijun Wang ; = 'Dhruv Dhody' > > =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'TEAS WG' > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Teas] =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt >=20 > Authors, >=20 > Please let the WG know when you have your final revision ready = for > submission to the IESG. Note, please ensure the idnits issues (see > = https://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=3Dhttps://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-= teas-pce-nati > ve-ip-08.txt) > are corrected in this final version. >=20 > Lou >=20 > On 6/2/2020 9:21 PM, Aijun Wang wrote: > > Hi, Dhruv: > > > > We will update the deployment consideration section continuously in = the > following stages. > > And we can also keep in mind that the existing mechanisms described = in > RFCs about PCE and their application in MPLS network can be reused in = the > application of PCE in native IP network. > > > > Adding the central control to the existing network is the trend of = network > evolution. CCDR solution described in this document can improve the = E2E > performance of native IP network that controlled by one administrator, = and > reuse the capabilities of existing deployed network devices in large = extend. > > > > Thanks again for your comments and suggestions on this draft. We can > discuss more on the protocol extension draft later. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Aijun Wang > > China Telecom > > > >> -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > >> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Dhruv Dhody = [mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com] > >> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=882=E6=97=A5 18:30 > >> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Aijun Wang > >> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: Lou Berger ; TEAS WG = (teas@ietf.org) > >> > >> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt > >> > >> Hi Aijun, > >> > >> Thank you for handling most of my technical comments. > >> > >> Non-blocking note - I would encourage the authors to keep thinking > >> about improving the deployment consideration section. I just noted > >> some points from the top of my head (it was not meant to be an > >> exhaustive list), I hope it could help you to think about adding = more > >> clarity on the scope of the experiment, provide high-level detail = and > >> maybe point to the PCEP extension for actual details. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Dhruv > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:03 AM Aijun Wang = > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, Lou and Dhruv: > >>> > >>> The update version addresses mainly the comments from Dhruv. = Please > >>> review it. > >>> Further comments and suggestions are also welcome > >>> > >>> If no other comments, can we ship this document out of the WG = then? > >>> > >>> Best Regards. > >>> > >>> Aijun Wang > >>> China Telecom > >>> > >>> > >>> -----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E4=BB=B6----- > >>> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: teas-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 > >>> internet-drafts@ietf.org > >>> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: = 2020=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=882=E6=97=A5 10:25 > >>> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >>> =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: teas@ietf.org > >>> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Teas] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt > >>> > >>> > >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >>> directories. > >>> This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture > >>> and Signaling WG of the IETF. > >>> > >>> Title : PCE in Native IP Network > >>> Authors : Aijun Wang > >>> Boris Khasanov > >>> Quintin Zhao > >>> Huaimo Chen > >>> Filename : draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08.txt > >>> Pages : 13 > >>> Date : 2020-06-01 > >>> > >>> Abstract: > >>> This document defines the framework for traffic engineering = within > >>> native IP network, using multiple BGP sessions strategy and = PCE > >>> -based central control architecture. The procedures described = in > >>> this document are experimental. The experiment is intended to > enable > >>> research for the usage of PCE in native IP scenarios. For = this > >>> purpose, this document describe the Central Control Dynamic > Routing > >>> (CCDR) framework and the PCEP extension is specified in > >>> [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip]. > >>> > >>> > >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip/ > >>> > >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: > >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > >>> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip- > >>> 08 > >>> > >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >>> = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-pce-native-ip-08 > >>> > >>> > >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > >>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. > >>> > >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Teas mailing list > >>> Teas@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Teas mailing list > > Teas@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas From nobody Tue Jun 9 07:40:44 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietf.org Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A6E3A0420; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 07:40:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: db3546@att.com, teas-chairs@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net, teas@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.3.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <159171364182.12189.14440998730750302679@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 07:40:41 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] teas - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 108 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 14:40:42 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Lou Berger, a Chair of the teas working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Lou Berger Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 50 Minutes Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: netmod detnet Technology Overlap: ccamp mpls pce idr i2rs spring lsr pals bess Key Participant Conflict: manet People who must be present: Lou Berger Deborah Brungard Vishnu Pavan Beeram Resources Requested: Special Requests: Other Conflicts: IRTF RRG, RTG BOFs --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Tue Jun 9 07:50:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871623A079B; 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On Tue, Jun 9= , 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Author= s, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for=C2=A0polling=C2= =A0for WG document=C2=A0adoption:

Are you aware of any=C2=A0IPR=C2= =A0that applies to draft identified above?

=C2=A0 Please state eithe= r:

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=C2=A0 "Yes, I'm aware of= =C2=A0IPR=C2=A0that applies to this draft"

If so, has this=C2= =A0IPR=C2=A0been disclosed in compliance with IETF=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0rules
(= see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

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If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
=C2= =A0 appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contribut= or please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whe= ther or not you are
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contributor.=C2=A0 NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL O= F YOU LISTED IN THIS=C2=A0
MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you = are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed
as an = author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF= =C2=A0IPR=C2=A0rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
= aware of=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain fro= m
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
und= isclosed=C2=A0IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed aboveand
http://trac.tools.ietf.= org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
Pavan
--00000000000018769c05a7a7e7a0-- From nobody Tue Jun 9 08:07:31 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD643A08E3 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 08:07:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tNw9N76RH-NW for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 08:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D74023A08E2 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 08:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmgw11.unifiedlayer.com (unknown [10.9.0.11]) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A948176127 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 09:07:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id ifqWjnXuhqNBqifqWjU78D; Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:07:24 -0600 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=QIhGuDDL c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:17 a=dLZJa+xiwSxG16/P+YVxDGlgEgI=:19 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10:nop_ipv6 a=nTHF0DUjJn0A:10:nop_rcvd_month_year a=Vy_oeq2dmq0A:10:endurance_base64_authed_username_1 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=HLhSF8qKDr3o6hxvNPEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10:nop_charset_2 a=r3rn_sesMdTuACsDzAAA:9 a=cpjvvy48AxJOI9vC:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10:nop_html a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From: References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=BYkI82whMUA6p1+QU8nihn6VRCmeFqEK9hA4L29WZMg=; b=hRnV9OmVyA/8mOhbLX8GmZME7+ nO1qYV7OH6fYpCNhTohD8jidO7GP7Zn1nmwc0Xk4nJmMtpN4emUGnZ5EUxKRoc1gO0sCnTHfqwEK4 UUBEB3PJGVnMwTXZ0LGTlGMGc; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=32441 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jifqW-002oV8-5Y; Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:07:24 -0600 To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Adrian Farrel , Gert Grammel , Loa Andersson , Xufeng Liu Cc: TEAS WG Chairs , TEAS WG References: From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <86bcb0e6-57cc-c177-c3b9-2a7f7de14c6c@labn.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 11:07:05 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F83ACA5A8F01BAE76E00CA2C" Content-Language: en-US X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box313.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - labn.net X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Source-L: Yes X-Exim-ID: 1jifqW-002oV8-5Y X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([IPv6:::1]) [127.0.0.1]:32441 X-Source-Auth: lberger@labn.net X-Email-Count: 7 X-Source-Cap: bGFibm1vYmk7bGFibm1vYmk7Ym94MzEzLmJsdWVob3N0LmNvbQ== X-Local-Domain: yes Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 15:07:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F83ACA5A8F01BAE76E00CA2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft On 6/9/2020 10:54 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > > Fixed > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > > wrote: > > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > >   Please state either: > >   "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" >   or >   "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with > IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > >   "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with > IETF IPR rules" >   or >   "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think >   appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please > answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not > you are > aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to > the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and > listed > contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are > not listed > as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations > under > the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if > you are > aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from > participating in any contribution or discussion related to your > undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs > listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > Pavan > > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --------------F83ACA5A8F01BAE76E00CA2C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

On 6/9/2020 10:54 AM, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
Fixed <Subject>

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

  Please state either:

  "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
  or
  "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

  "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
  or
  "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
  appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS 
MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed
as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
Pavan

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--------------F83ACA5A8F01BAE76E00CA2C-- From nobody Tue Jun 9 20:37:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1B33A0E15; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 20:37:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8ezCxRv-pTw1; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 20:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DECA63A0E12; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 20:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.7] (unknown [122.2.97.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7764B323377; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 05:37:28 +0200 (CEST) To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , Adrian Farrel , Gert Grammel , Xufeng Liu , Lou Berger Cc: TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs References: From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <037bb387-9cb8-bb7f-1378-28bd50b64cdd@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 11:37:25 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] Regarding IPR on Search Results Web results draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 03:37:34 -0000 Pavan, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft /Loa On 09/06/2020 22:50, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > >   Please state either: > >   "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" >   or >   "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > >   "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" >   or >   "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think >   appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed > as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under > the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are > aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from > participating in any contribution or discussion related to your > undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above > and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > Thank you, > Pavan -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Jun 10 17:30:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF50B3A15CF; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:30:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2d5jvoRASDRZ; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 673593A0CD5; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 6532CF4075B; Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:29:54 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, drafts-update-ref@iana.org, teas@ietf.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20200611002954.6532CF4075B@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] =?utf-8?q?RFC_8776_on_Common_YANG_Data_Types_for_Traffic_?= =?utf-8?q?Engineering?= X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 00:30:23 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 8776 Title: Common YANG Data Types for Traffic Engineering Author: T. Saad, R. Gandhi, X. Liu, V. Beeram, I. Bryskin Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: June 2020 Mailbox: tsaad@juniper.net, rgandhi@cisco.com, xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com, vbeeram@juniper.net, i_bryskin@yahoo.com Pages: 84 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-types-13.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8776 DOI: 10.17487/RFC8776 This document defines a collection of common data types and groupings in YANG data modeling language. These derived common types and groupings are intended to be imported by modules that model Traffic Engineering (TE) configuration and state capabilities. This document is a product of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. 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Thanks, Adrian *From:*Vishnu Pavan Beeram *Sent:* 09 June 2020 15:52 *To:* Adrian Farrel ; Gert Grammel ; Loa Andersson ; Xufeng Liu ; Lou Berger *Subject:* Re: Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 Fixed On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?   Please state either:   "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"   or   "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either:   "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"   or   "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think   appropriate. 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Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 16:21:02 +0100
From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk
Organization: Old Dog Consulting
To: 'Vishnu Pavan Beeram' <vishnupavan@gmail.com>, 'Gert Grammel' <ggrammel@juniper.net>, 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>, 'Xufeng Liu' <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>, 'Lou Berger' <lberger@labn.net>


Hi Pavan,

 

I’m not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Sent: 09 June 2020 15:52
To: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; Gert Grammel <ggrammel@juniper.net>; Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>; Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>; Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
Subject: Re: Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11

 

Fixed <Subject>

 

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption:

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

  Please state either:

  "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
  or
  "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

  "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
  or
  "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
  appropriate.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS 

MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

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the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
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participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,

Pavan

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We think that with these changes the model is now ready for YANG doctor rev= iew, however due to the significant amount of changes we would appreciate a= review from the WG before asking YANG doctor review. Thanks Italo and Sergio (as editors) -----Original Message----- From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet-dr= afts@ietf.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:22 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation Authors : Italo Busi Sergio Belotti Victor Lopez Anurag Sharma Yan Shi Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt Pages : 94 Date : 2020-06-12 Abstract: There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, where the topology information provided by a TE network provider may not be sufficient for its client to perform end-to-end path computation. In these cases the client would need to request the provider to calculate some (partial) feasible paths. This document defines a YANG data model for an RPC to request path computation. This model complements the solution, defined in RFCXXXX, to configure a TE Tunnel path in "compute-only" mode. [RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFC XXXX with the RFC number of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te once it has been published. Moreover this document describes some use cases where a path computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or RESTCONF), can be needed. 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Thanks Italo and Sergio From: Zhenghaomian Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 10:56 AM To: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: Comments about draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation Hi, Authors, WG, We have been reviewing the document (-08), and would like to share with you= about the following comments: 1. The concept of path computation data model and the PCE should be o= rthogonal, i.e., we should avoid misleading that the path computation data = model must be achieved via PCEP, especially among controllers; please help = clarify if this understanding is correct; 2. Section 3.3 mentions the 'stateless' and 'stateful' path computati= on respectively, but the term is slightly confusing because it reminds peop= le to use stateful/stateless PCEP to do the path computation work, which is= actually just a sub-case in the path computation model. I think the motiva= tion to have 'stateful/stateless' here is 'to plan the network with or with= out actually occupying any resources', so probably some alternative termino= logies can be used. I don't have perfect term in my mind, but something lik= e 'compute-reserve' and 'compute-only' may be helpful; 3. Section 3.2 provides really detailed path computation policies, I = know we have hard experience to achieve here. The content is clear but seem= s an overkill. Shall we leave some path computation principles here, and mo= ve the details as an example to some appendix? Since there is also github about this work, the issues were listed as https= ://github.com/rvilalta/ietf-te-path-computation/issues/68 for your informat= ion as well. Thank you. Haomian Zheng PhD, Principle Standard Delegate for Transport & Access Software, Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. 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Hi Haomian,

Thanks for your com= ments, we have addressed them in the version 9 , uploaded last Friday.=

 

Thanks

Italo and Sergio

 

From: = Zhenghaomian <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 10:56 AM
To: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation@ietf.org
Cc: teas@ietf.org
Subject: Comments about draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation

 =

Hi, Autho= rs, WG,

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We have b= een reviewing the document (-08), and would like to share with you about th= e following comments:

1.       T= he concept of path computation data model and the PCE should be orthogonal,= i.e., we should avoid misleading that the path computation data model must= be achieved via PCEP, especially among controllers; please help clarify if this understanding is correct; <= o:p>

2.       S= ection 3.3 mentions the ‘stateless’ and ‘stateful’ = path computation respectively, but the term is slightly confusing because i= t reminds people to use stateful/stateless PCEP to do the path computation work, which is actually just a sub-case in the path compu= tation model. I think the motivation to have ‘stateful/stateless̵= 7; here is ‘to plan the network with or without actually occupying an= y resources’, so probably some alternative terminologies can be used. I don’t have perfect term in my mind, but something lik= e ‘compute-reserve’ and ‘compute-only’ may be helpf= ul;

3.       S= ection 3.2 provides really detailed path computation policies, I know we ha= ve hard experience to achieve here. The content is clear but seems an overk= ill. Shall we leave some path computation principles here, and move the details as an example to some appendix?

&nbs= p;

Since the= re is also github about this work, the issues were listed as = https://github.com/rvilalta/ietf-te-path-computation/issues/68 for your= information as well. Thank you.

&nbs= p;

Haomian Zheng=

PhD,

Principle Standard Delegate f= or Transport & Access Software,

Huawei Technologies = ;Co., Ltd.

Tel : +86 13066= 975206

Email : zhenghaomian@huawei.com

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whether or n= ot it is the same. I will look again at your I-D but may be not this week.= =0A= =0A= Tom Petch=0A= (not a YANG Doctor)=0A= =0A= - add support of path computation for protected paths (as discussed in IETF= 104)=0A= - add support of path computation for bidirectional paths=0A= - returning errors in case path computation fails=0A= - add support for multi-layer path computation=0A= =0A= The changes to the YANG model are described in section 5.3 and 5.4 of the 0= 9 version of the draft.=0A= =0A= We think that with these changes the model is now ready for YANG doctor rev= iew, however due to the significant amount of changes we would appreciate a= review from=0A= the WG before asking YANG doctor review.=0A= =0A= Thanks=0A= Italo and Sergio (as editors)=0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet-dr= afts@ietf.org=0A= Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:22 PM=0A= To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=0A= Cc: teas@ietf.org=0A= Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= =0A= =0A= A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.=0A= This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF.=0A= =0A= Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation=0A= Authors : Italo Busi=0A= Sergio Belotti=0A= Victor Lopez=0A= Anurag Sharma=0A= Yan Shi=0A= Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= Pages : 94=0A= Date : 2020-06-12=0A= =0A= Abstract:=0A= There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, where=0A= the topology information provided by a TE network provider may not=0A= be sufficient for its client to perform end-to-end path computation.=0A= In these cases the client would need to request the provider to=0A= calculate some (partial) feasible paths.=0A= =0A= This document defines a YANG data model for an RPC to request path=0A= computation. This model complements the solution, defined in=0A= RFCXXXX, to configure a TE Tunnel path in "compute-only" mode.=0A= =0A= [RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFC XXXX with the RFC number of=0A= draft-ietf-teas-yang-te once it has been published.=0A= =0A= Moreover this document describes some use cases where a path=0A= computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or=0A= RESTCONF), can be needed.=0A= =0A= =0A= The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation/=0A= =0A= There are also htmlized versions available at:=0A= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation= -09=0A= =0A= A diff from the previous version is available at:=0A= https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-0= 9=0A= =0A= =0A= Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:=0A= ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=0A= =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= I-D-Announce mailing list=0A= I-D-Announce@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce=0A= Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ie= tf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt=0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= Teas mailing list=0A= Teas@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas=0A= From nobody Mon Jun 15 09:02:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B863A0EAD; 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teas= @ietf.org Cc: TEAS WG Chairs ; Italo Busi Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt From: Teas on behalf of Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT= /Vimercate) Sent: 15 June 2020 16:23 Dear TEASers, we have updated the path computation RPC model to: - align with the latest version of the TE tunnel YANG model (https://tools.= ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-23) teas-yang-te is no more - it is an RFC:-)=20 Hi Tom, that is our hope asap, but now for the moment. Maybe you w= ere referring to te-types , now RFC 8776 ? =20 I have yet to check whether or not it is the same. I will look again at yo= ur I-D but may be not this week. Thanks Tom Petch (not a YANG Doctor) - add support of path computation for protected paths (as discussed in IETF= 104) - add support of path computation for bidirectional paths - returning errors in case path computation fails - add support for multi-layer path computation The changes to the YANG model are described in section 5.3 and 5.4 of the 0= 9 version of the draft. We think that with these changes the model is now ready for YANG doctor rev= iew, however due to the significant amount of changes we would appreciate a= review from the WG before asking YANG doctor review. Thanks Italo and Sergio (as editors) -----Original Message----- From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet-dr= afts@ietf.org Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:22 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teas@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF. Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation Authors : Italo Busi Sergio Belotti Victor Lopez Anurag Sharma Yan Shi Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt Pages : 94 Date : 2020-06-12 Abstract: There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, where the topology information provided by a TE network provider may not be sufficient for its client to perform end-to-end path computation. In these cases the client would need to request the provider to calculate some (partial) feasible paths. This document defines a YANG data model for an RPC to request path computation. This model complements the solution, defined in RFCXXXX, to configure a TE Tunnel path in "compute-only" mode. [RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFC XXXX with the RFC number of draft-ietf-teas-yang-te once it has been published. Moreover this document describes some use cases where a path computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or RESTCONF), can be needed. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation= -09 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-0= 9 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Italo Busi; teas@ietf.org=0A= Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: tom petch =0A= Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 5:31 PM=0A= To: Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) ; teas= @ietf.org=0A= Cc: TEAS WG Chairs ; Italo Busi =0A= Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= =0A= From: Teas on behalf of Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT= /Vimercate) =0A= Sent: 15 June 2020 16:23=0A= =0A= Dear TEASers,=0A= =0A= we have updated the path computation RPC model to:=0A= - align with the latest version of the TE tunnel YANG model (https://tools.= ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-23)=0A= =0A= =0A= teas-yang-te is no more - it is an RFC:-)=0A= =0A= Hi Tom, that is our hope asap, but now for the moment. Maybe you w= ere referring to te-types , now RFC 8776 ?=0A= =0A= =0A= Whoops, you are correct and I am wrong, mixing the two and you have the co= rrect reference in the I-D. Sorry about that=0A= =0A= Tom Petch,=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= I have yet to check whether or not it is the same. I will look again at yo= ur I-D but may be not this week.=0A= =0A= Thanks=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Tom Petch=0A= (not a YANG Doctor)=0A= =0A= - add support of path computation for protected paths (as discussed in IETF= 104)=0A= - add support of path computation for bidirectional paths=0A= - returning errors in case path computation fails=0A= - add support for multi-layer path computation=0A= =0A= The changes to the YANG model are described in section 5.3 and 5.4 of the 0= 9 version of the draft.=0A= =0A= We think that with these changes the model is now ready for YANG doctor rev= iew, however due to the significant amount of changes we would appreciate a= review from the WG before asking YANG doctor review.=0A= =0A= Thanks=0A= Italo and Sergio (as editors)=0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet-dr= afts@ietf.org=0A= Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:22 PM=0A= To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=0A= Cc: teas@ietf.org=0A= Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= =0A= =0A= A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.=0A= This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF.=0A= =0A= Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation=0A= Authors : Italo Busi=0A= Sergio Belotti=0A= Victor Lopez=0A= Anurag Sharma=0A= Yan Shi=0A= Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= Pages : 94=0A= Date : 2020-06-12=0A= =0A= Abstract:=0A= There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, where=0A= the topology information provided by a TE network provider may not=0A= be sufficient for its client to perform end-to-end path computation.=0A= In these cases the client would need to request the provider to=0A= calculate some (partial) feasible paths.=0A= =0A= This document defines a YANG data model for an RPC to request path=0A= computation. This model complements the solution, defined in=0A= RFCXXXX, to configure a TE Tunnel path in "compute-only" mode.=0A= =0A= [RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFC XXXX with the RFC number of=0A= draft-ietf-teas-yang-te once it has been published.=0A= =0A= Moreover this document describes some use cases where a path=0A= computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or=0A= RESTCONF), can be needed.=0A= =0A= =0A= The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation/=0A= =0A= There are also htmlized versions available at:=0A= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation= -09=0A= =0A= A diff from the previous version is available at:=0A= https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-0= 9=0A= =0A= =0A= Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:=0A= ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=0A= =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= I-D-Announce mailing list=0A= I-D-Announce@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce=0A= Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ie= tf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt=0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= Teas mailing list=0A= Teas@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas=0A= From nobody Tue Jun 16 01:42:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8E13A1139; 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Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:42:09 +0000 From: tom petch To: "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" , "teas@ietf.org" CC: TEAS WG Chairs , Italo Busi Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt Thread-Index: AQHWQNW3/PO3N7NmdUe4cS/zY2X/gajZzklAgAEi5d0= Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:42:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: <159197894856.11807.5837352993917365680@ietfa.amsl.com>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: nokia.com; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;nokia.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=btconnect.com; x-originating-ip: [86.139.211.29] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 4a81913c-e8e1-44da-c229-08d811d12895 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: DB6PR0701MB2901: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:10000; x-forefront-prvs: 04362AC73B x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: XkeCyJwg9oX/5WsQb4Xb8HVR7acHxI2f4VyTWyWFmbPMQT2YSqxgs+1h8FLuWBtNVJCJx2nXE6DLYI/AAiEptPdpfhc6U/4Zjk66FNc54/2rAbhP4Y93fyAo+O9M4w1mu1MYensLS2fldsZXDdRISnCmlVepr+Sho39E81lJ2MV+vQZcJN8ZJkWVEg7aj8X4aXjjZDeRnTY1zEHdopCq4ek8x5c/9UnXd8k/9rgcv9dMPpb4pwQeTBKpoHwfW92wYyUNvB74Ua/vToJzZHXSa1BHTq325scgzqDZ47ZlmdkIH8GeVM0zeq0XGZocf2VvEHGrokYqNM5n4VejZTbRKwmTC1pYbcyJJMNudCdkFPv+x5uA7Qpomw64NJyCue8jo3W+eMlwfbWKh5cOEbNGJA== x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: btconnect.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 4a81913c-e8e1-44da-c229-08d811d12895 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 16 Jun 2020 08:42:09.8496 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: cf8853ed-96e5-465b-9185-806bfe185e30 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: BnuKMQAD5gIbkCX7SD4PkxP2lOv6H2fGE2CvvrC3wOmmla+ApBiuslHSiKzKCS4H3/8Phl2wjHmYke8OV+Uapw== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB6PR0701MB2901 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:42:15 -0000 From: Teas on behalf of Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT= /Vimercate) =0A= Sent: 15 June 2020 16:23=0A= =0A= we have updated the path computation RPC model to:=0A= - align with the latest version of the TE tunnel YANG model (https://tools.= ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-23)=0A= - add support of path computation for protected paths (as discussed in IETF= 104)=0A= - add support of path computation for bidirectional paths=0A= - returning errors in case path computation fails=0A= - add support for multi-layer path computation=0A= =0A= The changes to the YANG model are described in section 5.3 and 5.4 of the 0= 9 version of the draft.=0A= =0A= =0A= Try again.=0A= =0A= I had a look a the I-D (big, complicated:-) and see a number of open issues= , require-instance, RPC reference, waiting for a te-types update!=0A= =0A= What do you plan to do about those? =0A= =0A= I have not tracked the progress of this I-D and would like it to be +-stab= le before investing too much time in it (having wasted an ocean on the uns= table teas-te:-(=0A= =0A= Tom Petch.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= We think that with these changes the model is now ready for YANG doctor rev= iew, however due to the significant amount of changes we would appreciate a= review from=0A= the WG before asking YANG doctor review.=0A= =0A= Thanks=0A= Italo and Sergio (as editors)=0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet-dr= afts@ietf.org=0A= Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 6:22 PM=0A= To: i-d-announce@ietf.org=0A= Cc: teas@ietf.org=0A= Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= =0A= =0A= A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.=0A= This draft is a work item of the Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signa= ling WG of the IETF.=0A= =0A= Title : Yang model for requesting Path Computation=0A= Authors : Italo Busi=0A= Sergio Belotti=0A= Victor Lopez=0A= Anurag Sharma=0A= Yan Shi=0A= Filename : draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09.txt=0A= Pages : 94=0A= Date : 2020-06-12=0A= =0A= Abstract:=0A= There are scenarios, typically in a hierarchical SDN context, where=0A= the topology information provided by a TE network provider may not=0A= be sufficient for its client to perform end-to-end path computation.=0A= In these cases the client would need to request the provider to=0A= calculate some (partial) feasible paths.=0A= =0A= This document defines a YANG data model for an RPC to request path=0A= computation. This model complements the solution, defined in=0A= RFCXXXX, to configure a TE Tunnel path in "compute-only" mode.=0A= =0A= [RFC EDITOR NOTE: Please replace RFC XXXX with the RFC number of=0A= draft-ietf-teas-yang-te once it has been published.=0A= =0A= Moreover this document describes some use cases where a path=0A= computation request, via YANG-based protocols (e.g., NETCONF or=0A= RESTCONF), can be needed.=0A= =0A= =0A= The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation/=0A= =0A= There are also htmlized versions available at:=0A= https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-09=0A= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation= -09=0A= =0A= A diff from the previous version is available at:=0A= https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-teas-yang-path-computation-0= 9=0A= =0A= =0A= Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:=0A= ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=0A= =0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= I-D-Announce mailing list=0A= I-D-Announce@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce=0A= Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ie= tf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt=0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= Teas mailing list=0A= Teas@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas=0A= From nobody Tue Jun 16 07:52:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E15E3A1645 for ; 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Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CIPHER ([2a00:23c7:100:ca00:488a:31e8:af46:b8ea]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v24sm2444331wrd.92.2020.06.16.07.51.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Daniel King X-Google-Original-Sender: From: To: Cc: "'John E Drake'" , "'Zhenghaomian'" References: <159231804989.1886.9996953325296702167@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <159231804989.1886.9996953325296702167@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:51:54 +0100 Message-ID: <00f901d643ed$ad7626c0$08627440$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQI3FrHE0IN0soBaRslJ25D9b+E4IqgZqfsw Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Subject: [Teas] FW: New Version Notification for draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slicing-05.txt X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:52:09 -0000 Dear teas drinkers,=20 Since ACTN is a key output of the TEAS working group, and because = Network Slicing continues to be a subject of interest, we thought we = should resume the following I-D: Applicability of Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks = (ACTN) to TE Network Slicing https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slici= ng/ You might remember the main purpose of this document was to show how = ACTN is an applicable technology for requesting, provisioning, and = managing network slices in TE and transport networks. In particular, it = draws on a lot of published RFCs and a number of YANG models that are = being worked on (including in TEAS) to show how a management system can = be put together using existing building blocks. Yes! We are aware that there is work going on in the Network Slicing = Design Team to refine definitions that apply to network slicing. It is = not our intention to subvert that work, and we have kept the number of = terms that we have defined to a basic minimum and we scope those = definitions to just this document. We also know that the Design Team = plans to include some text on the applicability of ACTN, but we feel = that that is most likely to be just a few paragraphs in a bigger = document. As you can see from this document, we think that the subject = requires a few more words.=20 What next? Obviously, we believe we have some more work to do on this = document. Several areas for discussion present themselves, including: o to specify the slice-related model applicability, on both CMI and MPI; = o to have an architectural match between ACTN and TS arch (we notice = similar work in the DT draft); o to evaluate the multi-technology, such as packet-optical and/or = PON+OTN as slice delivery; We would welcome any review or comments. Dan, John and Haomian.=20 -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org =20 Sent: 16 June 2020 15:34 To: Haomian Zheng ; Daniel King = ; John Drake Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slicing-05.txt A new version of I-D, draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slicing-05.txt has been successfully submitted by Daniel King and posted to the IETF = repository. Name: draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slicing Revision: 05 Title: Applicability of Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered = Networks (ACTN) to TE Network Slicing Document date: 2020-06-16 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 17 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-s= licing-05.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slici= ng/ Htmlized: = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-slicing-05= Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-king-teas-applicability-actn-= slicing Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-king-teas-applicability-actn-sl= icing-05 Abstract: Network abstraction is a technique that can be applied to a network domain that utilizes a set of policies to select network resources and obtain a view of potential connectivity across the network. Network slicing is an approach to network operations that builds on the concept of network abstraction to provide programmability, flexibility, and modularity. It may use techniques such as Software Defined Networking (SDN) and Network Function Virtualization (NFV) to create multiple logical or virtual networks, each tailored for a set of services share the same set of requirements. Abstraction and Control of Traffic Engineered Networks (ACTN) is described in RFC 8453. It defines an SDN-based architecture that relies on the concept of network and service abstraction to detach network and service control from the underlying data plane. This document outlines the applicability of ACTN to transport network slicing in a Traffic Engineering (TE) network that utilizes IETF technology. It also identifies the features of network slicing not currently within the scope of ACTN, and indicates where ACTN might be extended. = =20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. 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Be cautious of content]* Fixed On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: Authors, Contributors, WG, As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty . Thank you, Pavan --00000000000093200905a836d270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fwding Gert's IPR response to the list

---------- Fo= rwarded message ---------
From: Gert Grammel <ggrammel@juniper.net>
Date: Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 10= :08 AM
Subject: Re: Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11
To: = EXT-vishnupavan@gmail.com = <vishnupavan@gmail.com><= br>


No, not aware of IPR

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From= : Vishnu Beeram <= ;vishnupavan@gma= il.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 16:54
To: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, Gert Grammel <ggrammel@juniper.net>, Loa = Andersson <loa@pi.nu&= gt;, Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
Cc: TEAS WG <t= eas@ietf.org>, TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11<= /u>

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Fixed <Subject>

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On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram &= lt;vishnupavan@g= mail.com> wrote:

Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of the preparation for=C2=A0polling=C2=A0for WG document=C2=A0adopt= ion:

Are you aware of any=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0that applies to draft identified above?<= br>
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If so, has this=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0been disclosed in compliance with IETF=C2=A0I= PR=C2=A0rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

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If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
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If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
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MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
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undisclosed=C2=A0IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed abov= e
and
http://trac.tools= .ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,

Pavan

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Thanks, - Xufeng On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 10:51 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > Fixed > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram > wrote: > >> Authors, Contributors, WG, >> >> As part of the preparation for polling for WG document adoption: >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? >> >> Please state either: >> >> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" >> or >> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >> >> If yes to the above, please state either: >> >> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" >> or >> "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >> >> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think >> appropriate. >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the >> above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are >> aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next >> stage until a response has been received from each author and listed >> contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS >> MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >> >> If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed >> as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under >> the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are >> aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from >> participating in any contribution or discussion related to your >> undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above >> and >> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >> >> Thank you, >> Pavan >> > --0000000000009682fb05a836d57d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Fwding Xufeng's IPR response to the list..
---------= - Forwarded message ---------
From: Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jun 1= 4, 2020 at 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Regarding IPR on draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bi= s-11
To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com>
Cc: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, Gert Grammel <ggrammel@juniper.net>, Loa Andersso= n <loa@pi.nu>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>


No, I'm not aware of any=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0that applies = to this draft.

Thanks,
- Xufeng

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 10:51 AM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrot= e:
Fixed <Subject>

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:50 AM Vishnu Pavan B= eeram <vishnu= pavan@gmail.com> wrote:
Authors, Contributors, WG,

As p= art of the preparation for=C2=A0polling=C2=A0for WG document=C2=A0adoption:=

Are you aware of any=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0that applies to draft identified= above?

=C2=A0 Please state either:

=C2=A0 "No, I'm = not aware of any=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0that applies to this draft"
=C2=A0 o= r
=C2=A0 "Yes, I'm aware of=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0that applies to this = draft"

If so, has this=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0been disclosed in complian= ce with IETF=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for= more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

=C2= =A0 "Yes, the=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0has been disclosed in compliance with IETF= =C2=A0IPR=C2=A0rules"
=C2=A0 or
=C2=A0 "No, the=C2=A0IPR=C2= =A0has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any= additional details you think
=C2=A0 appropriate.

If you are list= ed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by respon= ding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any rel= evant=C2=A0IPR.=C2=A0 This document will not advance to the next
stage u= ntil a response has been received from each author and listed
contributo= r.=C2=A0 NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS=C2=A0
ME= SSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG m= eetings but are not listed
as an author or contributor, we remind you of= your obligations under
the IETF=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0rules which encourages yo= u to notify the IETF if you are
aware of=C2=A0IPR=C2=A0of others on an I= ETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution o= r discussion related to your
undisclosed=C2=A0IPR. For more information,= please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualPro= perty.

Thank you,
Pavan
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Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends June 30th. Thanks, Pavan --00000000000078e40b05a83706e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
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The poll ends June 30th.

Thanks,
Pavan
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charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support =20 Hopefully it will come as no surprise that I think it is a good idea to = adopt this document. =20 When the Design Team was set up, it was specifically tasked to get a bis = into some basic shape ready for adoption, and then to hand over to the = working group. =20 Progress has been slow and there is clearly more work to be done, but I = think we now have a structure (including some empty sections) and = rationalised text that gives a stable base for the working group. = Furthermore, I would hope that, since the working group seemed to agree = that the work needed to be done, having the draft adopted might lead to = a little more involvement in generating and reviewing text. =20 If not adopted, I think I would continue with the draft for a while = longer, and would hope that the Design Team members would also help. =20 Best, Adrian =20 From: Teas On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: 16 June 2020 18:39 To: TEAS WG Cc: TEAS WG Chairs Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis =20 All, This is start of a two week poll on making draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. The poll ends June 30th. Thanks, Pavan ------=_NextPart_000_0383_01D64425.E3642C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support

 

Hopefully = it will come as no surprise that I think it is a good idea to adopt this = document.

 

When the = Design Team was set up, it was specifically tasked to get a bis into = some basic shape ready for adoption, and then to hand over to the = working group.

 

Progress = has been slow and there is clearly more work to be done, but I think we = now have a structure (including some empty sections) and rationalised = text that gives a stable base for the working group. Furthermore, I = would hope that, since the working group seemed to agree that the work = needed to be done, having the draft adopted might lead to a little more = involvement in generating and reviewing text.

 

If not = adopted, I think I would continue with the draft for a while longer, and = would hope that the Design Team members would also = help.

 

Best,

Adrian

 

From: Teas = <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan = Beeram
Sent: 16 June 2020 18:39
To: TEAS WG = <teas@ietf.org>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs = <teas-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll = - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis

 

All,

This is start of a two week poll on = making
draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group = document.
Please send email to the list indicating = "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If = indicating no, please state your reservations with the
document. If = yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see = addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends June = 30th.

Thanks,
Pavan

------=_NextPart_000_0383_01D64425.E3642C40-- From nobody Tue Jun 16 23:32:52 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teas@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144393A0F1A; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:32:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T-v0iGdrKac7; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABC763A0F17; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [122.2.100.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AAA4F323945; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 08:32:44 +0200 (CEST) To: adrian@olddog.co.uk, 'Vishnu Pavan Beeram' , 'TEAS WG' Cc: 'TEAS WG Chairs' References: <038201d6441d$819d7a50$84d86ef0$@olddog.co.uk> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:32:40 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <038201d6441d$819d7a50$84d86ef0$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 06:32:52 -0000 +1 /Loa On 17/06/2020 04:34, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Yes/support > > Hopefully it will come as no surprise that I think it is a good idea to > adopt this document. > > When the Design Team was set up, it was specifically tasked to get a bis > into some basic shape ready for adoption, and then to hand over to the > working group. > > Progress has been slow and there is clearly more work to be done, but I > think we now have a structure (including some empty sections) and > rationalised text that gives a stable base for the working group. > Furthermore, I would hope that, since the working group seemed to agree > that the work needed to be done, having the draft adopted might lead to > a little more involvement in generating and reviewing text. > > If not adopted, I think I would continue with the draft for a while > longer, and would hope that the Design Team members would also help. > > Best, > > Adrian > > *From:*Teas *On Behalf Of *Vishnu Pavan Beeram > *Sent:* 16 June 2020 18:39 > *To:* TEAS WG > *Cc:* TEAS WG Chairs > *Subject:* [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis > > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". 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[73.63.232.212]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p19sm19087335pff.116.2020.06.16.23.44.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-0C391367-F93D-46C4-ABC4-4F14BEB6FDAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Tantsura Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:44:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: <038201d6441d$819d7a50$84d86ef0$@olddog.co.uk> Cc: Vishnu Pavan Beeram , TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs In-Reply-To: <038201d6441d$819d7a50$84d86ef0$@olddog.co.uk> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17E262) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 06:44:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail-0C391367-F93D-46C4-ABC4-4F14BEB6FDAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support=20 Regards, Jeff > On Jun 16, 2020, at 13:34, Adrian Farrel wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Yes/support > =20 > Hopefully it will come as no surprise that I think it is a good idea to ad= opt this document. > =20 > When the Design Team was set up, it was specifically tasked to get a bis i= nto some basic shape ready for adoption, and then to hand over to the workin= g group. > =20 > Progress has been slow and there is clearly more work to be done, but I th= ink we now have a structure (including some empty sections) and rationalised= text that gives a stable base for the working group. Furthermore, I would h= ope that, since the working group seemed to agree that the work needed to be= done, having the draft adopted might lead to a little more involvement in g= enerating and reviewing text. > =20 > If not adopted, I think I would continue with the draft for a while longer= , and would hope that the Design Team members would also help. > =20 > Best, > Adrian > =20 > From: Teas On Behalf Of Vishnu Pavan Beeram > Sent: 16 June 2020 18:39 > To: TEAS WG > Cc: TEAS WG Chairs > Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis > =20 > All, >=20 > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >=20 > The poll ends June 30th. >=20 > Thanks, > Pavan > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --Apple-Mail-0C391367-F93D-46C4-ABC4-4F14BEB6FDAD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support 

R= egards,
Jeff

O= n Jun 16, 2020, at 13:34, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=

Yes/support

<= o:p> 

Hopefully it will come as no surprise that I think it is a g= ood idea to adopt this document.

 

When the Desig= n Team was set up, it was specifically tasked to get a bis into some basic s= hape ready for adoption, and then to hand over to the working group.

 

Progress has been slow and there is clearly more work t= o be done, but I think we now have a structure (including some empty section= s) and rationalised text that gives a stable base for the working group. Fur= thermore, I would hope that, since the working group seemed to agree that th= e work needed to be done, having the draft adopted might lead to a little mo= re involvement in generating and reviewing text.

 

If not adopted, I think I would continue with the draft for a while longer= , and would hope that the Design Team members would also help.

 

Best,

Adrian

 <= /p>

From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of V= ishnu Pavan Beeram
Sent: 16 June 2020 18:39
To: TEAS WG &= lt;teas@ietf.org>
Cc: TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org&g= t;
Subject: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis

 

All,

This is start of a two week poll on makingdraft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document.
Please send e= mail to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If indi= cating no, please state your reservations with the
document. If yes, plea= se also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once th= e document is a WG document.

The poll ends June 30th.

Thanks,<= br>Pavan

___________________________________= ____________
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Contreras" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 09:12:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004de1f905a85680ef" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:12:40 -0000 --0000000000004de1f905a85680ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Yes / support Best regards Luis El mar., 16 jun. 2020 a las 19:39, Vishnu Pavan Beeram (< vishnupavan@gmail.com>) escribi=C3=B3: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends June 30th. > > Thanks, > Pavan > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --=20 ___________________________________________ Luis M. Contreras contreras.ietf@gmail.com luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com Global CTIO unit / Telefonica --0000000000004de1f905a85680ef Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

Yes / support

Best regards

Luis


El m= ar., 16 jun. 2020 a las 19:39, Vishnu Pavan Beeram (<vishnupavan@gmail.com>) escribi=C3=B3:
All,
This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-dt-teas-rf= c3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends June 30th.

Thanks,
Pavan
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Aihua On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:39 PM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends June 30th. > > Thanks, > Pavan > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --00000000000001264805a85d2c5c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:39 PM Vishnu Pavan Beeram <vishnupavan@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-dt-teas-rf= c3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends June 30th.

Thanks,
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And I need more! Lots more! I have 64. I'd really like to get another 100 names. Hopefully, some of you are checking the volunteer box on IETF 108 registration. But I don't have anything from canceled IETF 107 registration, and the NomCom question wasn't asked on IETF 106. So I need a flood of volunteers to come in over the next week. Barbara ============================================= The IETF NomCom appoints people to fill the open slots on the LLC, IETF Trust, the IAB, and the IESG. Ten voting members for the NomCom are selected in a verifiably random way from a pool of volunteers. The more volunteers, the better chance we have of choosing a random yet representative cross section of the IETF population. The details of the operation of the NomCom can be found in BCP 10 (RFC 8713). RFC 3797 details the selection algorithm. Special for this year (and only this year), we also have RFC 8788 (one-off update to RFC 8713 / BCP 10) to tell us who is eligible to volunteer: Members of the IETF community must have attended at least three of the last five in-person IETF meetings in order to volunteer. The five meetings are the five most recent in-person meetings that ended prior to the date on which the solicitation for NomCom volunteers was submitted for distribution to the IETF community. Because no IETF 107 in-person meeting was held, for the 2020-2021 Nominating Committee those five meetings are IETFs 102 [Montreal, Canada; July 2018], 103 [Bangkok, Thailand; November 2018], 104 [Prague, Czech Republic; March 2019], 105 [Montreal, Canada; July 2019], and 106 [Singapore; November 2019]. Keep in mind that eligibility is based on in-person attendance at the five listed meetings. You can check your eligibility at: https://www.ietf.org/registration/nomcom.py. If you qualify, please volunteer. Before you decide to volunteer, please remember that anyone appointed to this NomCom will not be considered as a candidate for any of the positions that the 2020 - 2021 NomCom is responsible for filling. People commonly volunteer by ticking the box on IETF registration forms. The IETF 106 form did not ask whether people were willing to volunteer. IETF 107 did ask, but all those registrations were canceled. I have asked the Secretariat if it is possible to get the list if volunteers from canceled IETF 107 registrations. If that list is available, I will contact all who are verified as eligible. But given the uncertainty of this process, I would encourage people to volunteer directly (see the bottom of this email for instructions). Thank you for volunteering! The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2021 IETF meeting, and thus the positions for which this NomCom is responsible, are IETF Trust: Joel Halpern LLC: Maja Andjelkovic IAB: Jari Arkko Jeff Tantsura Mark Nottingham Stephen Farrell Wes Hardaker Zhenbin Li IESG: Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair/GEN AD Alvaro Retana, RTG AD Barry Leiba, ART AD Deborah Brungard, RTG AD Éric Vyncke, INT AD Magnus Westerlund, TSV AD Roman Danyliw, SEC AD Warren Kumari, OPS AD All appointments are for 2 years. The Routing area has 3 ADs and the General area has 1; all other areas have 2 ADs. Thus, all areas (that have more than one AD) have at least one continuing AD. The primary activity for this NomCom will begin in July 2020 and should be completed in January 2021. The NomCom will have regularly scheduled conference calls to ensure progress. 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Sun, 21 Jun 2020 17:19:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Xufeng Liu Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 20:18:56 -0400 Message-ID: To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: TEAS WG , TEAS WG Chairs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000eaccc305a8a13034" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 00:19:15 -0000 --000000000000eaccc305a8a13034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" yes/support. Thanks, - Xufeng On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:39 PM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends June 30th. > > Thanks, > Pavan > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas > --000000000000eaccc305a8a13034 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes/support.

Thanks,
- Xufeng

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 1:39 PM Vishnu Pavan Beeram &l= t;vishnupavan@gmail.com> wr= ote:
All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-dt-teas-rf= c3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "n= o/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends June 30th.

Thanks,
Pavan
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Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis X-BeenThere: teas@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Traffic Engineering Architecture and Signaling working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:45:24 -0000 Hi, Thanks to Adrian & DT for this work! I wanted to do a substantial review of the I-D but it looks like that has to wait for a later date :) I managed to skim through it focusing on the changes and caught nothing that should impede the adoption of this work. I would have liked to see a section listing changes since RFC 3272 (but not sure how practical that is). The diff-tool [1] was somewhat useful. Two random points - = - Query: In section 1.2 - The key elements required in any TE solution are: 1. Policy 2. Path steering 3. Resource management Does that mean any solution that just does 1 and 2 and doesn't do 3 is not TE? Would SR-Policy and BIER-Tree engineering fall under that? Note that we have SR-MPLS covered (rightfully so) in Section 4.1.14 under IETF techniques. I am wondering if partial-TE is a thing? = - Section 4.1.3, this needs to be updated - A number of IETF working groups have been engaged in activities related to the RSVP protocol. These include the original RSVP working group, the MPLS working group, the Resource Allocation Protocol working group, and the Policy Framework working group. = Thanks! Dhruv [1] https://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=rfc3272&url2=draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:09 PM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pavan, all, yes/support Thanks, Dieter On 16.06.2020 19:39, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd > like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > The poll ends June 30th. > > Thanks, > Pavan > > _______________________________________________ > Teas mailing list > Teas@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teas --------------DA8BEBBBBC5D620502256F98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Pavan, all,

yes/support

Thanks,
Dieter

On 16.06.2020 19:39, Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote:
All,

This is start of a two week poll on making
draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document.
Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not
support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the
document. If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd
like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.

The poll ends June 30th.

Thanks,
Pavan

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We can wait for a review, but don't feel you have to do it in one pass: it is an enormous document. I think the "changes since last version" will need to be descriptive text rather than a section-by-section analysis. I'll add a place holder for it. Your question on 1.2 is good: and I turn it right back at you! What do you think? Your pointer for 4.1.3 is good and will be worked on. A -----Original Message----- From: Teas On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: 30 June 2020 15:45 To: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: TEAS WG Chairs ; TEAS WG Subject: Re: [Teas] WG adoption poll - draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis Hi, Thanks to Adrian & DT for this work! I wanted to do a substantial review of the I-D but it looks like that has to wait for a later date :) I managed to skim through it focusing on the changes and caught nothing that should impede the adoption of this work. I would have liked to see a section listing changes since RFC 3272 (but not sure how practical that is). The diff-tool [1] was somewhat useful. Two random points - = - Query: In section 1.2 - The key elements required in any TE solution are: 1. Policy 2. Path steering 3. Resource management Does that mean any solution that just does 1 and 2 and doesn't do 3 is not TE? Would SR-Policy and BIER-Tree engineering fall under that? Note that we have SR-MPLS covered (rightfully so) in Section 4.1.14 under IETF techniques. I am wondering if partial-TE is a thing? = - Section 4.1.3, this needs to be updated - A number of IETF working groups have been engaged in activities related to the RSVP protocol. These include the original RSVP working group, the MPLS working group, the Resource Allocation Protocol working group, and the Policy Framework working group. = Thanks! Dhruv [1] https://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=rfc3272&url2=draft-dt -teas-rfc3272bis-11 On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:09 PM Vishnu Pavan Beeram wrote: > > All, > > This is start of a two week poll on making > draft-dt-teas-rfc3272bis-11 a TEAS working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the > document. 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What do you > think? Classic switch-a-roo :) In the recent discussion around BIER-TE (now called tree engineering, and earlier during SR-Policy) there was concern around this and I would guess that new terms were used because they were not "fully" TE. To keep things consistent, I am happy with what we have in 1.2. But at the same time, we need to make sure that techniques that only do only path steering or policy are still doing TE, well partially (and thus I used the term "partial-TE", there could be a better term for it). IMHO It would be a good idea to discuss that in this section. Also looking at section 4.1, many techniques would belong to "partial-TE", so it would be a good idea to describe that. I think this could help when other WG takes on related work and question if it is TE or not. Thanks! Dhruv