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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last IETF, I presented the hackathon report which included the slide discus= sion of OTrP over HTTP (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slide= s-103-teep-hackathon-report-01) I've now written up in I-D form what we discussed, and submitted it as an i= ndividual document for the WG to consider: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thaler-teep-otrp-over-http-00 The only substantive change from the slide was replacing the media type application/json with a new media type application/otrp+json as recommended in "Building Protocols with HTTP" (draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis) section 4.8 Since I'm the document author, Nancy will have to act as chair for discussi= on of it. Comments welcome. Dave --_000_CY4PR21MB016805C1A96C8610AABB9B0FA36F0CY4PR21MB0168namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Last IETF, I presented the hackathon report which in= cluded the slide discussion
of OTrP over HTTP (https://datatracker.ietf.org/mee= ting/103/materials/slides-103-teep-hackathon-report-01)

 

I’ve now written up in I-D form what we discus= sed, and submitted it as an individual

document for the WG to consider:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thaler-teep-otrp-= over-http-00

 

The only substantive change from the slide was repla= cing the media type

application/json with a new media type application/o= trp+json as recommended

in “Building Proto= cols with HTTP“ (draft-ietf-httpbis-bcp56bis) section 4.8=

 

Since I’m the document author, Nancy will have= to act as chair for discussion of it.

 

Comments welcome.

 

Dave

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've now written up in I-D form what we discussed, and submitted it as an= individual > document for the WG to consider: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thaler-teep-otrp-over-http-00 I also asked Mark Nottingham (author of the "Building Protocols with HTTP" = draft) to review it. His feedback, which I agree with, is quoted below with Mark'= s permission. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Nottingham > > Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 9:42 PM > To: Dave Thaler > > Subject: Re: OTrP over HTTP > > Hi Dave, > > Overall, I think this is reasonable. It was a bit difficult to read, but = I suspect that's mostly because I'm not up to speed with TEEP. Defining ter= ms like "TAM URI" at the beginning might help. > > The one technical question the I had was about using GET for session crea= tion; I think that's probably better as a POST with a 0-length body, since = GET returns the state of the TAM URI, and that's not what's happening here. > > Also: > >> Redirects MAY be automatically followed, and no request headers need >> be modified or removed upon a following such a redirect. > > That probably needs to say something like "...no additional request heade= rs beyond those specified by HTTP need be modified..." > > It'd be great if you could pass this buy the HTTP WG mailing list, so tha= t other folks can have a look. --_000_CY4PR21MB0168231BD0C479575B5E4272A36F0CY4PR21MB0168namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I&#= 8217;ve now written up in I-D form what we discussed, and submitted it as a= n individual

> document f= or the WG to consider:

> https://tools.ietf.org/= html/draft-thaler-teep-otrp-over-http-00

 

I also asked Mark Nott= ingham (author of the “Building Protocols with HTTP” draft)
to review it.  His feedback, which I agree with, is quoted below with = Mark’s permission.

 

Dave=

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>

> Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 9:42 PM<= /o:p>

> To: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>

> Subject: Re: OTrP over HTTP

>

> Hi Dave,

>

> Overall, I think this is reasonable. It was = a bit difficult to read, but I suspect that's mostly because I'm not up to = speed with TEEP. Defining terms like "TAM URI" at the beginning m= ight help.

>

> The one technical question the I had was abo= ut using GET for session creation; I think that's probably better as a POST= with a 0-length body, since GET returns the state of the TAM URI, and that= 's not what's happening here.

>

> Also:

>

>>  Redirects MAY be automatically fol= lowed, and no request headers need 

>> be modified or removed upon a following = such a redirect.

>

> That probably needs to say something like &q= uot;...no additional request headers beyond those specified by HTTP need be= modified..."

>

> It'd be great if you could pass this buy the= HTTP WG mailing list, so that other folks can have a look.

 

--_000_CY4PR21MB0168231BD0C479575B5E4272A36F0CY4PR21MB0168namp_-- From nobody Fri Feb 22 21:01:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E09130EE8; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:01:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FuvpyfQC6akO; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE7DC128B33; Fri, 22 Feb 2019 21:01:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost2.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.200.7]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id x1N51L8r022935; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 06:01:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.217.106] (p54A6C2FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.166.194.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 445wz451dKz1Bp8; Sat, 23 Feb 2019 06:01:20 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 572590866.6634229-17fe8dc0b603461a6e0e2aefd59cfb91 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 06:01:19 +0100 Message-Id: To: suit , teep@ietf.org, din@irtf.org, rats@ietf.org, eat@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF104: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2019 05:01:33 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF104. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. cose/teep and lpwan/t2trg are some annoying conflicts that meet the eye. I also don't like that I'll have to miss the cacao BOF (vs. core), dinrg/suit, coinrg/git. All times are CET (Central European Time) =3D=3D UTC +1 hours. Note = that there is no daylight saving time in effect at the time in Europe (this starts on the Sunday *after* IETF). (You can get pure UTC times on https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten SATURDAY/SUNDAY, March 23/24. 2019 -- Hackathon (including various interops) (Grand Hilton Ballroom) -- Sun 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Congress Hall 1/2 -- Sun 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks - Congress Hall 3 MONDAY, March 25, 2019 0900-1100 Morning Session I Congress H 3 ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Congress H 2 INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Congress H 1 IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Proposed Research Group Karlin 3 RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG 1120-1220 Morning Session II Congress H 1 INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Congress H 2 SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Karlin 1/2 TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG 1350-1550 Afternoon Session I Karlin 1/2 INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Congress H 2 IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Congress H 3 SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG 1610-1810 Afternoon Session II Congress H 2 ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Congress H 3 IAB smart Stopping Malware and Researching Threats Karlin 1/2 INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG Berlin/Brussels IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Karlin 3 RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Athens/Barcel. SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG Congress H 1 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG TUESDAY, March 26, 2019 0900-1100 Morning Session I Karlin 3 ART uta Using TLS in Applications WG - 1000 - = 1100 Karlin 1/2 INT homenet Home Networking WG Congress H 3 RTG rtgarea Routing Area Open Meeting Berlin/Brussels SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Grand Hilton BR SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Congress H 2 TSV quic QUIC WG 1120-1220 Morning Session II Berlin/Brussels INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Congress H 1 IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Athens/Barcel. RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Congress H 3 TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1350-1550 Afternoon Session I Berlin/Brussels ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Congress H 3 OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Congress H 2 SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Grand Hilton BR TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting 1610-1810 Afternoon Session II Congress H 1 INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Congress H 3 IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Congress H 2 SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG WEDNESDAY, March 27, 2019 0900-1100 Morning Session I Karlin 1/2 IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Congress H 3 RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Berlin/Brussels RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Grand Hilton BR SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG Congress H 2 TSV quic QUIC WG 1120-1320 Morning Session II Grand Hilton BR IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum - 12:20 - 13:20 Grand Hilton BR SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG - 11:20 - 12:20 1500-1700 Afternoon Session I Grand Hilton BR OPS wgtlgo Technology Deep Dive - Modern Router = Architecture BOF THURSDAY, March 28, 2019 0900-1030 Morning Session I Karlin 3 ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Congress H 3 IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Athens/Barcel. RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Congress H 1 SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Berlin/Brussels SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1050-1220 Morning Session II Congress H 3 GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Congress H 1 IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Congress H 2 IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols 1350-1550 Afternoon Session I Congress H 1 INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Grand Hilton BR SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS BOF 1610-1810 Afternoon Session II Grand Hilton BR ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Karlin 1/2 INT *** paw Predictable and Available Wireless BOF Berlin/Brussels OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Congress H 2 SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting FRIDAY, March 29, 2019 0900-1030 Morning Session I Congress H 3 ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Grand Hilton BR INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Berlin/Brussels SEC cacao Collaborative Automated Course of Action = Operations for Cyber Security BOF 1050-1250 Morning Session II Athens/Barcel. INT ipwave IP Wireless Access in Vehicular = Environments WG Congress H 1 IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking Grand Hilton BR SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG Karlin 1/2 TSV taps Transport Services WG