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Ip=[63.35.35.123]; Helo=[64aa7808-outbound-1.mta.getcheckrecipient.com] X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: HybridOnPrem X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB6PR08MB2839 Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] Tutorial & Hackathon X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 10:34:52 -0000 --_000_VI1PR08MB53602F862999DB38318E55E9FA9F0VI1PR08MB5360eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Based on feedback and room availability we have setup a Doodle poll with tw= o dates for the combined tutorial/hackathon event in February 2020 covering= topics of SUIT, TEEP and RATS. As mentioned earlier, the venue is in Berlin (Wilhelmstra=DFe 67, to be mor= e precisely). Here is the poll: https://doodle.com/poll/2sbd6v6h3wzah39u Please respond as soon as possible. Ciao Hannes & Matthias IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in = any medium. Thank you. --_000_VI1PR08MB53602F862999DB38318E55E9FA9F0VI1PR08MB5360eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Based on feedback and room availability we have setu= p a Doodle poll with two dates for the combined tutorial/hackathon event in= February 2020 covering topics of SUIT, TEEP and RATS.

As mentioned earlier, the venue is in Berlin (Wil= helmstra=DFe 67, to be more precisely).

 

Here is the poll:

https://doodle.com/poll/2sbd6v6h3wzah39u

 

Please respond as soon as possible.

 

Ciao

Hannes & Matthias

 

IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, p= lease notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any= other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. --_000_VI1PR08MB53602F862999DB38318E55E9FA9F0VI1PR08MB5360eurp_-- From nobody Mon Oct 7 06:56:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E7D1200CD; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 06:55:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.435 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.435 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q1FMhpwGHGak; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.sandelman.ca (relay.cooperix.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:de77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABE4E1200CC; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dooku.sandelman.ca (unknown [80.233.32.253]) by relay.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12D721F456; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 13:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dooku.sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 34EC11BBA; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:56:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Richardson To: Laurence Lundblade cc: "Nancy Cam-Winget \(ncamwing\)" , "rats\@ietf.org" , "teep\@ietf.org" In-reply-to: <8CF426EA-B2E7-44FA-A5C6-888E54DE641B@island-resort.com> References: <79E5AD05-85F9-47F6-936F-E5BB5762DB83@cisco.com> <8CF426EA-B2E7-44FA-A5C6-888E54DE641B@island-resort.com> Comments: In-reply-to Laurence Lundblade message dated "Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:03:10 -0700." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 15:56:39 +0200 Message-ID: <6181.1570456599@dooku.sandelman.ca> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teep] [Rats] RATS Virtual meeting (1st hour with TEEP) X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 13:55:57 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence Lundblade wrote: > I think the FIDO and Android Key Store use cases need to be as > important and prominent as the TEEP use case. FIDO and Android are > clear successes and deployed in millions of devices. Similarly network > function (router) attestation is pretty important.=20 > So I=E2=80=99d prefer: > 30 minutes on data / info model > 30 minutes on end-end trust, =E2=80=9Cattester" and root of trust > 30 minutes on TEEP This was a request for the first virtual interim, I think. I don't have the link handy for tomorrow, but I don't think we are doing this. I think that the need to go over this is still open. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: jacobs-university.de X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1b3e1c9e-c508-4751-ba38-08d74eeee866 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Oct 2019 08:33:50.5743 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: f78e973e-5c0b-4ab8-bbd7-9887c95a8ebd X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: 5Ra0TgRkolUBhC4PXP50F5RxOajlx5P5tF4jnlVKSa1HzWY7BHbEWp2L5Wa+YmJC2u7KIv3JEu8Vj8HPBm4xe6ny0b5NsMSy2iorFErxAcg= X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB6P190MB0568 Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] comments on draft-ietf-teep-architecture-03 X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 08:34:00 -0000 Hi, I am new to TEEP (so please forgive my ignorance) and I thought I start by reading the architecture document. Below are my comments on draft-ietf-teep-architecture-03. In general, I found the document to be helpful and in reasonably good shape. - RFC 2119 language This seems mainly used in the section about attestations. Do we really need RFC 2119 terms in this architecture document? Some of the SHALLs do not seem to be really needed. - UA =3D=3D CA ? The introduction introduces UA but then this is only used again once in 5.2. Given that section 2 starts with defining CA, is CA the same as UA (and hence UA should be replaced with CA)? - root of trust This definition remains a bit unclear and it ends with an ad-hoc reference to a NIS draft. I searched for RoT in the document but it is not widely used. Perhaps this term can even be replaced by simply expanding the definitions of TFW a bit? - acronyms and terms I notice that not all terms for which acronyms are defined at the end of section 2 are actually defined terms. Perhaps they should all be defined? Missing are TAM (Trusted Application Manager) and SD (Security Domain). The later one (SD) in particular would benefit from a definition. - assumptions Does it make sense to have a top-level section consisting of just two sentences? Perhaps move this into a subsection of the architecture section? - #notionalarch What is #notionalarch? A broken reference to Figure 1? - typo caption figure 2 s/wtih/with/ - typo 5.5 s/would required/would require/ s/recieve/receive/ - typo 5.7 s/may different/may be different/ - trust anchors It seems that managing trust anchors will be crucial in order to deal with 'crypto gone wrong' scenarios. Is it really smart to leave management and updates to proprietary mechanisms? Why can't trust anchors not be managed like other TEE data? What is the reason to declare this out of scope - too complex? too hard to find agreement? Will trust anchor changes cause installed TAs to be removed if they lost their trust? - message security It may help to clarify what the 'ends' are in the statement "messages are signed end-to-end". In particular, is the end the TEEP Agent and the TAM? - teep broker I am not sure what "A shared module in REE comes to meet this need." tells me. What is a "shared module"? Perhaps the sentence can simply be removed. I am not sure the text is really clear. There are two kinds of interactions, a CA needing a TA to be made available and CA using a TA. I assume the first goes with the TEEP broker but the later via REE OS mechanisms. Or does the TEEP broker provide the single interface via which CAs request TA services? - attestation "but the OTrP protocol SHALL allow" - this is the first time OTrP shows up and RFC 2119 language is used; did you mean to say a TEEP protocol? or something like that? - crypto properties Does it really make sense to fix digital signature formats in an architecture document? The list of formats will likely change over time; so it is good to define MUST for today's blessed list? - figure teep attestation layout Perhaps change the layout such that the claims are listed one below the other instead of next to each other (this way things may fit into the space - yes, I am still using 80 column terminals). - typo attestation flow s/Attesations/Attestations/ - security Why does that text say "should be validated" instead of "must be validated"? What is the GetTAInformation function discussed in the security considerations? 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Based on your feedback in the Doodle poll we have selected the 17th, 18th a= nd 19th Feb. 2020. Matthias made a room reservation and we will have to do some planning. Plea= se put this date in your calendar. Ciao Hannes From: Hannes Tschofenig Sent: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019 12:35 To: suit@ietf.org; teep ; rats@ietf.org Cc: Matthias Waehlisch Subject: Tutorial & Hackathon Hi all, Based on feedback and room availability we have setup a Doodle poll with tw= o dates for the combined tutorial/hackathon event in February 2020 covering= topics of SUIT, TEEP and RATS. As mentioned earlier, the venue is in Berlin (Wilhelmstra=DFe 67, to be mor= e precisely). Here is the poll: https://doodle.com/poll/2sbd6v6h3wzah39u Please respond as soon as possible. Ciao Hannes & Matthias IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confid= ential and may also be privileged. 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Based on your feed= back in the Doodle poll we have selected the 17th, 18th and 19th Feb. 2020.

Matthias made a ro= om reservation and we will have to do some planning. Please put this date i= n your calendar.

 

Ciao

Hannes

 

From: Hannes Tschofenig
Sent: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019 12:35<= br> To: suit@ietf.org; teep <teep@ietf.org>; rats@ietf.org
Cc: Matthias Waehlisch <m.waehlisch@fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Tutorial & Hackathon

 

Hi all,

 

Based on feedback and room availability we have setu= p a Doodle poll with two dates for the combined tutorial/hackathon event in= February 2020 covering topics of SUIT, TEEP and RATS.

As mentioned earlier, the venue is in Berlin (Wil= helmstra=DFe 67, to be more precisely).

 

Here is the poll:

https://doodle.com/poll/2sbd6v6h3wzah39u

 

Please respond as soon as possible.

 

Ciao

Hannes & Matthias

 

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Thank you. --_000_VI1PR08MB53607436087B7AACA1928ECBFA900VI1PR08MB5360eurp_-- From nobody Sun Oct 20 02:48:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E7D120145; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 02:47:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IkIUBs0RGJXW; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 02:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9FFC1200DB; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 02:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pptp-218-1.informatik.uni-bremen.de (pptp-218-1.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46ww1K56nhz10Cx; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:47:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593257665.692018-dc009fba5d5c6b68ad66b7c3ecef599a Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Message-Id: <48EB5C9D-AE2B-48FF-8FB7-0FC20FE5D02B@tzi.org> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:47:49 +0200 To: suit , teep@ietf.org, din@irtf.org, rats@ietf.org, lake@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] [Cbor] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF106: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 09:48:00 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF106. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. Conflicts that meet the eye: LAKE/SUIT (already noted by Russ), BOF on top (thing security): TMRID. ACE/RATS are also both security technologies that impact IoT. COSE is a technology that might be relevant for WPACK. All times are SGT (Singapore Time) =3D=3D UTC + 8 hours (=3D=3D China = time). Singapore doesn't obey the daylight savings myth. (Pure UTC times at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc are useful for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten FRIDAY, November 15, 2019 -- T2TRG/W3C WoT Workshop @ NUSS (https://is.gd/XWSfi8) SATURDAY, November 16, 2019 0830-2200 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison SUNDAY, November 17, 2019 0830-1600 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Fairmont Ballroom Foyer 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks -- Padang MONDAY, November 18, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Sophia IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET VIP A INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Hullet INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Olivia IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Canning IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Padang SEC txauth Transactional Authorization and = Delegation BOF Sophia TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Collyer ART abcd Application Behavior Considering DNS BOF Padang IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Sophia OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Orchard RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Canning SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Canning INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Olivia TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG TUESDAY, November 19, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Hullet RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Olivia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT tmrid Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote ID BOF Padang IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Canning SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG Olivia SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Canning INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Olivia SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Hullet TSV taps Transport Services WG 1710-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Sophia OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Orchard RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Padang SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless BOF Sophia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Canning ART webtrans WebTransport BOF Sophia INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Collyer IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Olivia SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Orchard ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Hullet OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Collyer SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Sophia TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting THURSDAY, November 21, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing VIP A RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Padang SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Collyer TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Olivia RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Canning SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Padang ART wpack Web Packaging BOF Canning RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Sophia SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Hullet SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1740-1840 Afternoon Session III Olivia ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Sophia GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Padang INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Canning RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG FRIDAY, November 22, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Hullet INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Sophia IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Proposed = Research Group Olivia SEC mathmesh MatheMatical Mesh BOF 1220-1350 Morning Session II Hullet ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Sophia IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Olivia SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG _______________________________________________ CBOR mailing list CBOR@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cbor From nobody Tue Oct 22 17:21:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietf.org Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C9212021C; Tue, 22 Oct 2019 17:21:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: teep@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.107.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: teep@ietf.org Message-ID: <157179010155.24777.8785160561388355557@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 17:21:41 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-02.txt X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 00:21:42 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning WG of the IETF. Title : HTTP Transport for Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning: Agent-to- TAM Communication Author : Dave Thaler Filename : draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2019-10-22 Abstract: The Open Trust Protocol (OTrP) is used to manage code and configuration data in a Trusted Execution Environment (TEE). This document specifies the HTTP transport for OTrP communication where a Trusted Application Manager (TAM) service is used to manage TEEs in devices that can initiate communication to the TAM. An implementation of this document can (if desired) run outside of any TEE, but interacts with an OTrP implementation that runs inside a TEE. 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Dave -----Original Message----- From: TEEP On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:22 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: teep@ietf.org Subject: [Teep] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning= WG of the IETF. Title : HTTP Transport for Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning: Agent-to- TAM Communication Author : Dave Thaler Filename : draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2019-10-22 Abstract: The Open Trust Protocol (OTrP) is used to manage code and configuration data in a Trusted Execution Environment (TEE). This document specifies the HTTP transport for OTrP communication where a Trusted Application Manager (TAM) service is used to manage TEEs in devices that can initiate communication to the TAM. 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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: 518MXjNxOG1lkgCtyVtODCo9zi24GynIji98i5DDEcwMeHMM5L4oRdLV/fbXLYV3ZeAlOPt4yJ5mKAev7NhoYqAeaxX282IivAZH5WkdAKE= X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: MWHPR21MB0798 Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] IETF 106 Call for Agenda Items X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 01:40:54 -0000 --_000_MWHPR21MB07849D32C93B9624E4CF0C78A36B0MWHPR21MB0784namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The TEEP WG meeting is scheduled for two slots: 1) Tuesday November 19 10:00-12:00 2) Wednesday November 20 10:00-12:00 Currently we expect at least the following agenda items: * Agenda bashing, Logistics * Architecture document discussion * Protocol document discussion * Transport document discussion Please send any agenda requests, including requested time and presenter, to teep-chairs@ietf.org Thanks, Dave and Nancy --_000_MWHPR21MB07849D32C93B9624E4CF0C78A36B0MWHPR21MB0784namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The TEEP WG meeting is scheduled for two slots:

1)     Tuesday November 19 10:00-12:00

2)     Wednesday November 20 10:00-12:00

 

Currently we expect at least the following agenda= items:

 

* Agenda bashing, Logistics

* Architecture document discussion

* Protocol document discussion

* Transport document discussion

 

Please send any agenda requests, including reques= ted time and presenter, to

teep-chairs@ietf.org

 

Thanks,

Dave and Nancy

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[146.115.73.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w6sm10524125qkj.136.2019.10.23.05.56.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Oct 2019 05:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-91100A26-2651-4922-AF5C-7682072FA404 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kathleen Moriarty Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 08:56:19 -0400 Message-Id: <8F5F9649-A1A5-4F42-A075-5F648F88FF80@gmail.com> References: <4E8C7427-A3E8-4837-92F9-E92B2B995DE5@qti.qualcomm.com> Cc: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" , "teep@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: <4E8C7427-A3E8-4837-92F9-E92B2B995DE5@qti.qualcomm.com> To: Jeremy O'Donoghue X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17A878) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Teep] Confirming consensus and way forward X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 12:56:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail-91100A26-2651-4922-AF5C-7682072FA404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sent from my mobile device > On Oct 23, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Jeremy O'Donoghue = wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > I am happy with the new name. > =20 > Rationale: The choice to break backward compatibility with the original TE= EP contribution to IETF, thus breaking interoperability with the published G= lobalPlatform solution requires a name change to eliminate confusion in the m= arket. TEEP seems an appropriate name, deriving clearly from the IETF workst= ream, and identifying it as something different to the GlobalPlatform soluti= on. > =20 > Note that GlobalPlatform specifications implementing the original contribu= tion of OTrP on a GlobalPlatform compliant TEE are now public documents. See= : > =20 > https://globalplatform.org/specs-library/tee-management-framework-open-tru= st-protocol/ (OTrP implementation profile on a GlobalPlatform TEE =E2=80=93 p= ublished May 2019) > https://globalplatform.org/specs-library/otrp-profile-initial-configuratio= n-v1-0-gpd_gui_125/ (minimal and extended configurations for OTrP compliant i= mplementations on a GlobalPlatform TEE =E2=80=93 published July 2019) > =20 +1 and TEEP is descriptive on the purpose of the protocol. Best regards, Kathleen=20 > Best regards > Jeremy > =20 > On 23/10/2019, 02:27, "TEEP on behalf of Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" wrote: > =20 > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. >=20 > TEEP Participants, > We discussed and there was general consensus to allow the current solution= document (OTrP) break compatibility from what may get evolved by the Global= Platform. This email is to confirm the consensus and to further work toward= s consensus on: > =C2=B7 What should TEEP=E2=80=99s solution document be named?=20 > To accelerate discussion and conversion to a name, the chairs propose that= we call it TEEP > Please comment on whether you agree to this new name, or if not, provide r= ationale and alternate names. > =20 > Best, > Your TEEP chairs. > _______________________________________________ > TEEP mailing list > TEEP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teep --Apple-Mail-91100A26-2651-4922-AF5C-7682072FA404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sent from my mobil= e device

On Oct 23, 2019= , at 5:44 AM, Jeremy O'Donoghue <jodonogh@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:
=
=EF=BB=BF

I am happy with the new name.

 

Rationale: The choice to break backward compatibility with the origin= al TEEP contribution to IETF, thus breaking interoperability with the publis= hed GlobalPlatform solution requires a name change to eliminate confusion in the market. TEEP seems an appropria= te name, deriving clearly from the IETF workstream, and identifying it as so= mething different to the GlobalPlatform solution.

 

Note that GlobalPlatform specifications implementing the original con= tribution of OTrP on a GlobalPlatform compliant TEE are now public documents= . See:

 

+1 and TEEP is d= escriptive on the purpose of the protocol.

Best regards,<= /div>
Kathleen 

Best regards

Jeremy

 

On 23/10/2019, 02:27, "T= EEP on behalf of Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <teep-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of ncamwing@cisco.com> wrote:

 

CAUTION<= /span>: This email originated from outside of the organization.

TEEP Participants,

We discussed and there was general consensus to allow the current s= olution document (OTrP) break compatibility from what may get evolved by the= GlobalPlatform.  This email is to confirm the consensus and to further work towards consensus on:=

=C2=B7         What sho= uld TEEP=E2=80=99s solution document be named? 

To accelerate discussion= and conversion to a name, the chairs propose that we call it TEEP

Please comment on whethe= r you agree to this new name, or if not, provide rationale and alternate nam= es.

 

Best,

   Your TEEP chairs.

_______________________________________________
TEEP m= ailing list
TEEP@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.o= rg/mailman/listinfo/teep
= --Apple-Mail-91100A26-2651-4922-AF5C-7682072FA404-- From nobody Wed Oct 23 13:30:36 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D27120110 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:30:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id guGOAMkQJ_hJ for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F903120100 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kduck.mit.edu ([24.16.140.251]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id x9NKUStp013883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2019 16:30:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:30:27 -0700 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: teep@ietf.org Message-ID: <20191023203027.GB69013@kduck.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] call for co-chairing interest X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 20:30:34 -0000 Hi everyone! Dave and Nancy are doing a great job as chairs, but we've noticed that Dave has to wear a lot of hats in this WG -- chair, author, individual, etc. -- and that can be confusing, to say the least. I'm looking to get a replacement for Dave as co-chair, so that he can focus on a smaller number of "hats" at once. Please let me know if you think you might be interested in co-chairing TEEP. (Actually, let me know if you might be interested in co-chairing something else, too -- we're always on the lookout for more people!) Thanks, Ben From nobody Fri Oct 25 14:21:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietf.org Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01D61201E0; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:12:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: teep@ietf.org, kaduk@mit.edu X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157203792678.2724.11720225408544774721.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:12:06 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] teep - Requested sessions have been scheduled for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:18:42 -0000 Dear Dave Thaler, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. teep Session 1 (2:00 requested) Tuesday, 19 November 2019, Morning Session I 1000-1200 Room Name: Sophia size: 200 --------------------------------------------- teep Session 2 (2:00 requested) Wednesday, 20 November 2019, Morning Session I 1000-1200 Room Name: Olivia size: 150 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/sessions/teep.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning Area Name: Security Area Session Requester: Dave Thaler Number of Sessions: 2 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours, 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: suit rats mile intarea v6ops 6man tls Technology Overlap: cose Key Participant Conflict: oauth People who must be present: Dave Thaler Nancy Cam-Winget Hannes Tschofenig Mingliang Pei David M. Wheeler Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Oct 25 14:47:32 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4097D1200C4; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zLGVG-vUyVTl; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D86AE12004A; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p5089AE1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.174.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 470Hbr6LzJzySF; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:40:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593732451.3356169-d1c582c9ee08b96bce13fc030c30fcff Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Message-Id: <1E12A893-A07F-44CB-B106-B3D3BB55B378@tzi.org> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:40:56 +0200 To: suit@ietf.org, teep@ietf.org, din@irtf.org, rats@ietf.org, lake@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [Teep] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF106: FINAL AGENDA X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:47:14 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the FINAL AGENDA for IETF106. Remember that, occasionally, futher agenda changes do happen. Quite a bit has been moved around from the draft agenda. LAKE no longer conflicts with SUIT, TMRID is now on top of ROLL and TEEP which is maybe a bit less of a problem for most. ACE/RATS still conflict (and the other RATS meeting has moved from Monday to Friday on top of COINRG, but you can do this RATS thing without me, can you?). WPACK no longer conflicts with COSE (but now does with LAKE, which again probably just is a personal problem), LAKE/ANIMA is a technology and a potential user again. All times are SGT (Singapore Time) =3D=3D UTC + 8 hours (=3D=3D China = time). Singapore doesn't obey the daylight savings myth. (Pure UTC times at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc are useful for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten FRIDAY, November 15, 2019 -- T2TRG/W3C WoT Workshop @ NUSS (https://is.gd/XWSfi8) SATURDAY, November 16, 2019 0830-2200 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison SUNDAY, November 17, 2019 0830-1600 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Fairmont Ballroom Foyer 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks -- Padang MONDAY, November 18, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Olivia IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking Collyer SEC mathmesh MatheMatical Mesh BOF 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET VIP A INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Olivia IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Canning IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Padang SEC txauth Transactional Authorization and = Delegation BOF Sophia TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Canning ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Padang IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Collyer OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Orchard RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Olivia INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Padang IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols TUESDAY, November 19, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I VIP A INT tmrid Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote ID BOF Olivia RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Sophia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Padang ART abcd Application Behavior Considering DNS BOF VIP A RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Sophia SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG Hullet TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Sophia GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Collyer INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Olivia SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Hullet TSV taps Transport Services WG 1710-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Sophia OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Padang SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Canning RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless BOF Olivia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART webtrans WebTransport BOF Sophia INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Canning IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Olivia SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Collyer ART wpack Web Packaging BOF Hullet OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Sophia SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG 1710-1940 IETF Plenary - Canning/Padang THURSDAY, November 21, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Orchard RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Padang SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Canning TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Olivia RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Canning SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Padang INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Collyer RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Sophia SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Hullet SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1740-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Collyer RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Canning SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Padang TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting FRIDAY, November 22, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Hullet INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Sophia IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Proposed = Research Group Canning SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Orchard SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1220-1350 Morning Session II Hullet ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Sophia IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Olivia SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG _______________________________________________ CBOR mailing list CBOR@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cbor