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From tls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 12 07:25:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E4328C154; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:25:35 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@ietf.org Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id DE84528C114; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:25:32 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Message-Id: <20090112152532.DE84528C114@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:25:32 -0800 (PST) Cc: tls@ietf.org Subject: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-psk (ECDHE_PSK Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'ECDHE_PSK Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) ' as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2009-01-26. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-psk-05.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=16896&rfc_flag=0 _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 12 07:26:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0842D28C250; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:26:14 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@ietf.org Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 20D8C28C21C; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:26:12 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes To: IETF-Announce From: The IESG Message-Id: <20090112152613.20D8C28C21C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:26:13 -0800 (PST) Cc: tls@ietf.org Subject: [TLS] Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-psk-new-mac-aes-gcm (Pre-Shared Key Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) with SHA-256/384 and AES Galois Counter Mode) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has received a request from the Transport Layer Security WG (tls) to consider the following document: - 'Pre-Shared Key Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) with SHA-256/384 and AES Galois Counter Mode ' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2009-01-26. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tls-psk-new-mac-aes-gcm-05.txt IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi?command=view_id&dTag=17270&rfc_flag=0 _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Mon Jan 12 11:14:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03A33A6B45; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:14:12 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@ietf.org Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 4A61B3A6A40; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:14:10 -0800 (PST) X-idtracker: yes From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: <20090112191410.4A61B3A6A40@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:14:10 -0800 (PST) Cc: Internet Architecture Board , tls mailing list , tls chair , RFC Editor Subject: [TLS] Document Action: 'DES and IDEA Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org The IESG has approved the following document: - 'DES and IDEA Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) ' as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Transport Layer Security Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Tim Polk and Pasi Eronen. A URL of this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tls-des-idea-02.txt Technical Summary TLS specification versions 1.0 (RFC 2246) and 1.1 (RFC 4346) included cipher suites based on DES (Data Encryption Standard) and IDEA (International Data Encryption Algorithm) algorithms. DES (when used in single-DES mode) and IDEA are no longer recommended for general use in TLS, and have been removed from TLS 1.2 main specification (RFC 5246). This document specifies these cipher suites for completeness, and discusses reasons why their use is no longer recommended. Working Group Summary This document review was non-controversial. The longest discussion was on the use of SHOULD and MUST in an informational document. Document Quality This document deprecates ciphers, removed from TLS 1.2, that are no longer considered appropriate for general use. There is general agreement in the security community that this is the right thing to do. Personnel Joe Salowey is the Document Shepherd, and Tim Polk is the Responsible Area Director. RFC Editor Note In section 7.1, please make the following substitution: OLD: [TLS12] Dierks, T. and E. Rescorla, "The Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol Version 1.2", RFC 5246, July 2008. NEW: [TLS12] Dierks, T. and E. 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From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 06:24:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F79728C146; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:24:49 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53C528C146 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:24:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id djN8Xd7Lr3C9 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx295.800onemail.com (cx295.800onemail.com [209.171.54.152]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C051328C13B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.157]) by cx295.800onemail.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0TEKvP2026454 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:21:11 -0500 Received: from EX40.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.206]) by ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.160]) with mapi; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:20:58 -0500 From: Rob Dugal To: "tls@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:20:57 -0500 Thread-Topic: DTLS interop servers Thread-Index: AcmCHM19kxpwVhllSnuUCppOR7+Jdg== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRXEFW-Info: Please contact Ceryx for more information X-CRXEFW-Virus: Clean X-CRXEFW-From: rdugal@certicom.com Subject: [TLS] DTLS interop servers X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? ----------------------------------------------- Robert Dugal Member of Development Group Certicom Corp. EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com PHONE: (905) 501-3848 FAX : (905) 507-4230 WEBSITE: www.certicom.com _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 08:58:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E383A6A07; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:58:14 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8967F3A68DB for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:58:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SXRP4M3Q8xJW for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-n.franken.de (drew.ipv6.franken.de [IPv6:2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394E03A68E1 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2002:508f:f424::21e:52ff:fe71:c926] (unknown [IPv6:2002:508f:f424:0:21e:52ff:fe71:c926]) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BD61C0B4613; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:57:44 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <16F54FF8-2CE5-4D4B-9911-8E5AA87D6202@lurchi.franken.de> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_T=FCxen?= To: Rob Dugal In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:57:42 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Rob, I do not know of any. But we can set up one in my lab. It would run the OpenSSL implementation with all the patches Robin Seggelmann provided. It would run DTLS/UDP and DTLS/SCTP? What else is required? I would suggest using an echo and an discard service? Anything else? Best regards Michael On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: > Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? > > ----------------------------------------------- > Robert Dugal > Member of Development Group > Certicom Corp. > EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com > PHONE: (905) 501-3848 > FAX : (905) 507-4230 > WEBSITE: www.certicom.com > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 09:53:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F113A6818; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:53:10 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44103A6818 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:53:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.189 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.189 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SnuJkI6eQG9T for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx295.800onemail.com (cx295.800onemail.com [209.171.54.152]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55E23A6807 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.157]) by cx295.800onemail.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0THpex8012710; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:51:41 -0500 Received: from EX40.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.206]) by ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.160]) with mapi; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:51:41 -0500 From: Rob Dugal To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_T=FCxen?= Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:51:39 -0500 Thread-Topic: [TLS] DTLS interop servers Thread-Index: AcmCMrwIUCccHmZCRp2O3x6ll+JFaQABy4RA Message-ID: References: <16F54FF8-2CE5-4D4B-9911-8E5AA87D6202@lurchi.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <16F54FF8-2CE5-4D4B-9911-8E5AA87D6202@lurchi.franken.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRXEFW-Info: Please contact Ceryx for more information X-CRXEFW-Virus: Clean X-CRXEFW-From: rdugal@certicom.com Cc: "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org An echo server running DTLS/UDP would be sufficient. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael T=FCxen [mailto:Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:58 AM > To: Rob Dugal > Cc: tls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers > = > Hi Rob, > = > I do not know of any. But we can set up one in my lab. It > would run the OpenSSL implementation with all the patches > Robin Seggelmann provided. It would run DTLS/UDP and DTLS/SCTP? > = > What else is required? I would suggest using an echo and an > discard service? Anything else? > = > Best regards > Michael > = > On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: > = > > Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? > > > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Robert Dugal > > Member of Development Group > > Certicom Corp. > > EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com > > PHONE: (905) 501-3848 > > FAX : (905) 507-4230 > > WEBSITE: www.certicom.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TLS mailing list > > TLS@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 10:16:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B4928C1E9; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:16:12 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6680628C227 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:16:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.357 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.357 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.242, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LbbhCS97K9LT for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx295.800onemail.com (cx295.800onemail.com [209.171.54.152]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C4228C229 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.157]) by cx295.800onemail.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0TIFJLr027870 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:15:19 -0500 Received: from EX40.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.206]) by ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.160]) with mapi; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:15:20 -0500 From: Rob Dugal To: "tls@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:15:17 -0500 Thread-Topic: Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC Thread-Index: AclPUJFoKX1519m4SuC6DUaWjqnINAy65N9Q Message-ID: References: <20081125225227.C23053A69E7@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20081125225227.C23053A69E7@core3.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRXEFW-Info: Please contact Ceryx for more information X-CRXEFW-Virus: Clean X-CRXEFW-From: rdugal@certicom.com Subject: Re: [TLS] Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org Anyone have any idea when this is going to be assigned an RFC # ? > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:52 PM > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: Internet Architecture Board; RFC Editor > Subject: Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC > > The IESG has approved the following document: > > - 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS) ' > as an Informational RFC > > This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an > IETF Working Group. > > The IESG contact person is Tim Polk. > > A URL of this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rescorla-tls-suiteb-11.txt > > Technical Summary > > The United States Government has published guidelines for > "NSA Suite B Cryptography", which defines cryptographic > algorithm policy for national security applications. This > document defines a profile of TLS which is conformant with > Suite B. > > Working Group Summary > > This document is not the product of any IETF working group. > > Document Quality > > This document explains the requirements for a TLS implementation > to be considered "Suite B conformant". There is strong consensus > from the people that are defining that term. > > Personnel > > Russ Housley is the Document Shepherd. Tim Polk is the > Responsible Area Director. > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 10:33:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0293A6921; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:33:14 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278123A6921 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:33:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TNCG+TJJ9vgs for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-n.franken.de (drew.ipv6.franken.de [IPv6:2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB15F3A6818 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2002:508f:f424::21e:52ff:fe71:c926] (unknown [IPv6:2002:508f:f424:0:21e:52ff:fe71:c926]) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DFC1C0B4613; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:32:52 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_T=FCxen?= To: Rob Dugal In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:32:51 +0100 References: <16F54FF8-2CE5-4D4B-9911-8E5AA87D6202@lurchi.franken.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org We'll set it up and publish the details (address, port, ...) on the = list. Best regards Michael On Jan 29, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: > An echo server running DTLS/UDP would be sufficient. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael T=FCxen [mailto:Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de] >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:58 AM >> To: Rob Dugal >> Cc: tls@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers >> >> Hi Rob, >> >> I do not know of any. But we can set up one in my lab. It >> would run the OpenSSL implementation with all the patches >> Robin Seggelmann provided. It would run DTLS/UDP and DTLS/SCTP? >> >> What else is required? I would suggest using an echo and an >> discard service? Anything else? >> >> Best regards >> Michael >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: >> >>> Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> Robert Dugal >>> Member of Development Group >>> Certicom Corp. >>> EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com >>> PHONE: (905) 501-3848 >>> FAX : (905) 507-4230 >>> WEBSITE: www.certicom.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> TLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> > > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From ketibro@3mail.com Thu Jan 29 11:39:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3913A68BC for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:39:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -22.928 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-22.928 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HELO_EQ_TELESP=1.245, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=1.778, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02=1.666, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gdTYAELKYJPl for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from 189-47-191-35.dsl.telesp.net.br (189-47-191-35.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.47.191.35]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 69B7328C0E0 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:39:26 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Invoice from itunes.com From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090129193927.69B7328C0E0@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:39:26 -0800 (PST)

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Michael T=FCxen wrote: > Hi Rob, > > I do not know of any. But we can set up one in my lab. It > would run the OpenSSL implementation with all the patches > Robin Seggelmann provided. It would run DTLS/UDP and DTLS/SCTP? What's wrong with the DTLS implementation that's already in there? > > What else is required? I would suggest using an echo and an > discard service? Anything else? > > Best regards > Michael > > On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: > >> Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? >> >> ----------------------------------------------- >> Robert Dugal >> Member of Development Group >> Certicom Corp. >> EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com >> PHONE: (905) 501-3848 >> FAX : (905) 507-4230 >> WEBSITE: www.certicom.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> TLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >> > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 14:27:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E423A6A38; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:27:01 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77073A6A38 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:26:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VlyvCh0gSzuT for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtprelay10.ispgateway.de (smtprelay10.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.24]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A90AB3A6814 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [92.224.173.47] (helo=server.rsis.lan) by smtprelay10.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LSfLF-0002LY-Vd; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:26:34 +0100 Received: from alpha.rsis.lan (alpha.rsis.lan [10.0.0.2]) by server.rsis.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F52D608D; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:26:33 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <103FAC5F-A2DC-4275-BB08-8FAF0643178B@fh-muenster.de> From: Robin Seggelmann To: Ben Laurie In-Reply-To: <1b587cab0901291354y6c26caa9p9017a32bb759591f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:26:33 +0100 References: <16F54FF8-2CE5-4D4B-9911-8E5AA87D6202@lurchi.franken.de> <1b587cab0901291354y6c26caa9p9017a32bb759591f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: 229264 Cc: Rob Dugal , "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org Am 29.01.2009 um 22:54 schrieb Ben Laurie: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Michael T=FCxen > wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> I do not know of any. But we can set up one in my lab. It >> would run the OpenSSL implementation with all the patches >> Robin Seggelmann provided. It would run DTLS/UDP and DTLS/SCTP? > > What's wrong with the DTLS implementation that's already in there? Renegotiation isn't working at all, timers are incomplete, so that on = packet loss most likely nothing gets retransmitted and the connection = stalls, message reordering can cause the connection to fail, = abbreviated handshakes are not supported. And that's only what I have fixed to far :) >> What else is required? I would suggest using an echo and an >> discard service? Anything else? >> >> Best regards >> Michael >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: >> >>> Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> Robert Dugal >>> Member of Development Group >>> Certicom Corp. >>> EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com >>> PHONE: (905) 501-3848 >>> FAX : (905) 507-4230 >>> WEBSITE: www.certicom.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> TLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> TLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >> > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 15:39:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB46F3A69F1; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:31 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673033A6864 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JtG5NyiZ0acv for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-n.franken.de (drew.ipv6.franken.de [IPv6:2001:638:a02:a001:20e:cff:fe4a:feaa]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F3A3A6847 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2002:508f:f424::21e:c2ff:fe00:76c8] (unknown [IPv6:2002:508f:f424:0:21e:c2ff:fe00:76c8]) by mail-n.franken.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E8B1C0B461B; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:39:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michael_T=FCxen?= To: Ben Laurie In-Reply-To: <1b587cab0901291354y6c26caa9p9017a32bb759591f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:39:05 +0100 References: <16F54FF8-2CE5-4D4B-9911-8E5AA87D6202@lurchi.franken.de> <1b587cab0901291354y6c26caa9p9017a32bb759591f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: Rob Dugal , "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] DTLS interop servers X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org Hi Ben, have a look at http://sctp.fh-muenster.de/dtls-patches.html for a description of the bugs Robin found up to now. We found this because we are using the DTLS implementation also for DTLS/SCTP. Most problems found by testing this are actually bugs also showing up for DTLS/UDP. Some bugs found will only show up only for DTLS/UDP. Best regards Michael On Jan 29, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Michael T=FCxen > wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> >> I do not know of any. But we can set up one in my lab. It >> would run the OpenSSL implementation with all the patches >> Robin Seggelmann provided. It would run DTLS/UDP and DTLS/SCTP? > > What's wrong with the DTLS implementation that's already in there? > >> >> What else is required? I would suggest using an echo and an >> discard service? Anything else? >> >> Best regards >> Michael >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Rob Dugal wrote: >> >>> Are there any DTLS servers available for interop testing? >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------- >>> Robert Dugal >>> Member of Development Group >>> Certicom Corp. >>> EMAIL: rdugal@certicom.com >>> PHONE: (905) 501-3848 >>> FAX : (905) 507-4230 >>> WEBSITE: www.certicom.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TLS mailing list >>> TLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> TLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >> > _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Thu Jan 29 16:29:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B808A3A68DC; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:29:50 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7302D28C0EB for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:29:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.868 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.868 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.617, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vf3uMpZnXBZE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:29:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from WOTAN.TR-Sys.de (gateway.tr-sys.de [213.178.172.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFCB3A6873 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ZEUS.TR-Sys.de by w. with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.37.109.26 $/16.3) id AA045885171; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:26:11 +0100 Received: (from ah@localhost) by z.TR-Sys.de (8.9.3 (PHNE_25183)/8.7.3) id BAA16584; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:26:09 +0100 (MEZ) From: Alfred =?hp-roman8?B?SM5uZXM=?= Message-Id: <200901300026.BAA16584@TR-Sys.de> To: rdugal@certicom.com, tls@ietf.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:26:09 +0100 (MEZ) X-Mailer: ELM [$Revision: 1.17.214.3 $] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TLS] Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org Rob, regarding , you asked: > Anyone have any idea when this is going to be assigned an RFC # ? Here is the precise answer: Yes, I have an idea! :-) More precisely: It already has been assigned an RFC number, roughly 2 weeks ago. 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From tls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 30 02:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls-archive@ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-tls-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6593A6B1D; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:59:59 -0800 (PST) X-Original-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5180A3A6B16 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:59:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.392 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.392 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LZc68n2p1lX5 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx295.800onemail.com (cx295.800onemail.com [209.171.54.152]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD653A6B1D for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.157]) by cx295.800onemail.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0UAxD0f002852; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:59:13 -0500 Received: from EX40.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.206]) by ex13-n01.exchserver.com ([192.168.162.160]) with mapi; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:59:14 -0500 From: Rob Dugal To: Paul Hoffman , "tls@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:59:12 -0500 Thread-Topic: [TLS] Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC Thread-Index: AcmCUX2zzJDOE5sJQrGrZxxYhd+00wAd/yqw Message-ID: References: <20081125225227.C23053A69E7@core3.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRXEFW-Info: Please contact Ceryx for more information X-CRXEFW-Virus: Clean X-CRXEFW-From: rdugal@certicom.com Subject: Re: [TLS] Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tls-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: tls-bounces@ietf.org I was hoping there was an RFC # so I could refer to it in user documentation. An RFC # looks nicer than draft-rescorla-tls-suiteb-11.txt :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hoffman [mailto:paul.hoffman@vpnc.org] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:38 PM > To: Rob Dugal; tls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [TLS] Document Action: 'Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS)' to > Informational RFC > > RFC numbers are currently assigned late in the editing process and can even change after their initial > assignment. Until you see the published RFC, don't assume you know the number. > > Having said that, don't forget that this document is not a standard, it is an Informational RFC, so > knowing that it will be published should be sufficient for any business need. > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls From tls-bounces@ietf.org Fri Jan 30 03:29:48 2009 Return-Path:

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