From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Mon May 5 05:14:49 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA27546 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4598XbI016845; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 11545 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Mon, 5 May 2003 05:08:33 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h458wXbI016243 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 04:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h458xNYx009962 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 04:59:23 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h458xKKB009949 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 04:59:21 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h458wQ809879 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:28:26 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA32736 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:18:44 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:31:06 +0530 Message-ID: <002301c312e4$dd0d36a0$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could not find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. Which are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two protocols. Regards Sameer From owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Wed May 7 02:41:50 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA18236 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h476V4bM016740; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23645 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:36:08 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h476a7bI016928 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h476bIYx002194 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:37:18 -0400 Received: from cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (h-69-3-227-68.CHCGILGM.covad.net [69.3.227.68]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h476bIKB002189 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:37:18 -0400 Received: from wessel (unverified) by cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Wed, 07 May 2003 01:35:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030507013628.0096de40@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> X-Sender: rwessel@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 01:36:28 -0500 To: , From: "Robert C. Wessel" Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <002301c312e4$dd0d36a0$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Sameer, You can order many back level and "out-of-print" IBM publications from: http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi .cgi (Select search and enter SA21-9247 as the publication number). For the "out-of-print" stuff, this is a POD system, so anything "old" you order (at least in my experience) arrives in black and white and on 8.5x11 paper, which is rather funny if you've ordered a pocket reference card. But heck, so long as you can read it... -Robert At 02:31 PM 5/5/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >Hi all, > >I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. > >I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 >and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. >These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, >Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could not >find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. Which >are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two >protocols. > >Regards >Sameer > From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 7 02:46:55 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA18334 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h476V4bS016740; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 23703 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:42:57 -0400 Received: from seaquest.net.nih.gov (seaquest.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.34]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h476gvbI017188 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seaquest.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seaquest.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h476gjIM016948 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:42:45 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by seaquest.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h476ggim016943 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:42:43 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h476gkl29285; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:12:46 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA25724; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:03:24 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: "'Robert C. Wessel'" , Subject: RE: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:15:26 +0530 Message-ID: <000a01c31464$3e231ec0$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030507013628.0096de40@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Robert, Are there any latest documents which should give me all functions to be implemented without referring to the old out of print documents, in order to develop a terminal emulation? Sameer -----Original Message----- From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:06 PM To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV Subject: Re: Sameer, You can order many back level and "out-of-print" IBM publications from: http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi .cgi (Select search and enter SA21-9247 as the publication number). For the "out-of-print" stuff, this is a POD system, so anything "old" you order (at least in my experience) arrives in black and white and on 8.5x11 paper, which is rather funny if you've ordered a pocket reference card. But heck, so long as you can read it... -Robert At 02:31 PM 5/5/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >Hi all, > >I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. > >I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 >and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. >These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, >Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could not >find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. Which >are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two >protocols. > >Regards >Sameer > From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 7 03:09:07 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA18773 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4775gbI017869; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 21970 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:05:42 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4771BbI017707 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4772NYx002720 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:02:23 -0400 Received: from cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (h-69-3-227-68.CHCGILGM.covad.net [69.3.227.68]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4772MKB002715 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:02:23 -0400 Received: from wessel (unverified) by cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Wed, 07 May 2003 02:01:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030507020141.009fca90@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> X-Sender: rwessel@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 02:01:41 -0500 To: , From: "Robert C. Wessel" Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation In-Reply-To: <000a01c31464$3e231ec0$d22c7aa3@glory> References: <3.0.5.32.20030507013628.0096de40@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Sameer, There are new features in some newer terminals, but you'll want to start with the 5250 Functions Reference (SA21-9247). Unless you have special requirements, you'll probably not need any of the newer stuff anyway. A word of advice: You'll obviously want to have some other 5250 implementations available so that you can do the usual reverse engineering. 5250 is rather complex, and the implementations have vary considerable in quality, so don't put too much faith in any one 5250 emulator (TN5250 or otherwise) as regards the performance of the more obscure features (for example, the implementations of autofill, autoskip, mandatory enter and the like are just all over the place, and those aren't all that obscure). We picked up a few different models of "real" 5250 terminals (used and cheap, of course) for baseline testing, which was helpful. -Robert At 12:15 PM 5/7/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >Hi Robert, > >Are there any latest documents which should give me all functions to be >implemented without referring to the old out of print documents, in order to >develop a terminal emulation? > >Sameer > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] >Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:06 PM >To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >Subject: Re: > > >Sameer, > >You can order many back level and "out-of-print" IBM publications from: > >http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pbi >.cgi > >(Select search and enter SA21-9247 as the publication number). > >For the "out-of-print" stuff, this is a POD system, so anything "old" you >order (at least in my experience) arrives in black and white and on 8.5x11 >paper, which is rather funny if you've ordered a pocket reference card. >But heck, so long as you can read it... > >-Robert > >At 02:31 PM 5/5/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >>Hi all, >> >>I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. >> >>I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 >>and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. >>These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, >>Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could not >>find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. Which >>are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two >>protocols. >> >>Regards >>Sameer >> > From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 7 03:40:19 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA19585 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h477UMbK019149; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22492 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:34:32 -0400 Received: from viper.net.nih.gov (viper.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.32]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h477YWbI019292 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viper.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h477YK7R016492 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:34:20 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by viper.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h477YHLx016480 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:34:18 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h477YQM01060; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:04:27 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA26886; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:55:03 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: "'Robert C. Wessel'" , Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 13:07:03 +0530 Message-ID: <000c01c3146b$753f3a40$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030507020141.009fca90@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, I have IBM Manager print preview of 3270 programmers reference (GA23-0059-07). Is this enough to start with terminal emulation development. If not, what are the other documents I should refer to? -Sameer -----Original Message----- From: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV [mailto:owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV]On Behalf Of Robert C. Wessel Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:32 PM To: sameer.neugui@TATAINFOTECH.COM; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation Sameer, There are new features in some newer terminals, but you'll want to start with the 5250 Functions Reference (SA21-9247). Unless you have special requirements, you'll probably not need any of the newer stuff anyway. A word of advice: You'll obviously want to have some other 5250 implementations available so that you can do the usual reverse engineering. 5250 is rather complex, and the implementations have vary considerable in quality, so don't put too much faith in any one 5250 emulator (TN5250 or otherwise) as regards the performance of the more obscure features (for example, the implementations of autofill, autoskip, mandatory enter and the like are just all over the place, and those aren't all that obscure). We picked up a few different models of "real" 5250 terminals (used and cheap, of course) for baseline testing, which was helpful. -Robert At 12:15 PM 5/7/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >Hi Robert, > >Are there any latest documents which should give me all functions to be >implemented without referring to the old out of print documents, in order to >develop a terminal emulation? > >Sameer > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] >Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:06 PM >To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >Subject: Re: > > >Sameer, > >You can order many back level and "out-of-print" IBM publications from: > >http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pb i >.cgi > >(Select search and enter SA21-9247 as the publication number). > >For the "out-of-print" stuff, this is a POD system, so anything "old" you >order (at least in my experience) arrives in black and white and on 8.5x11 >paper, which is rather funny if you've ordered a pocket reference card. >But heck, so long as you can read it... > >-Robert > >At 02:31 PM 5/5/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >>Hi all, >> >>I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. >> >>I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 >>and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. >>These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, >>Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could not >>find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. Which >>are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two >>protocols. >> >>Regards >>Sameer >> > From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 7 03:51:56 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA19749 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h477UMbO019149; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22548 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:44:08 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h477i8bI019588 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h477jJYx003546 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:45:20 -0400 Received: from mail46.fg.online.no (mail46-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.46]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h477jJKB003533 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:45:19 -0400 Received: from smtp.online.no ([193.212.217.203]) by mail46.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26649; Wed, 7 May 2003 09:43:53 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <200305070946440005.002DB1EA@smtp.online.no> In-Reply-To: <000c01c3146b$753f3a40$d22c7aa3@glory> References: <000c01c3146b$753f3a40$d22c7aa3@glory> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 09:46:44 +0200 Reply-To: nihen@online.no From: "Hans Erik Nesheim" To: sameer.neugui@TATAINFOTECH.COM, rwessel@cfsoft.com, TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gdecker.net.nih.gov id h477i8bI019589 Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sameer, I have written a telnet 3270 and 5250 test service, which can be very usefully for your development. It's a NT service, which can handle both tn3270 and tn5250 clients. The reply from the service is different 3270 or 5250 screen images with most of the attributes needed. The service has three different ports for connections. One is a normal reply mode port, one is a slow mode reply port and the other is a stress test (performance) connection port. More information and download in the services section at www.nexit.com It can also be downloaded from the test center at www.tn3270.com Regards, Hans Erik *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 5/7/2003 at 13:07 sameer wrote: >Robert, > >I have IBM Manager print preview of 3270 programmers reference >(GA23-0059-07). Is this enough to start with terminal emulation >development. >If not, what are the other documents I should refer to? > >-Sameer > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV [mailto:owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV]On >Behalf Of Robert C. Wessel >Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:32 PM >To: sameer.neugui@TATAINFOTECH.COM; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation > > >Sameer, > >There are new features in some newer terminals, but you'll want to start >with the 5250 Functions Reference (SA21-9247). Unless you have special >requirements, you'll probably not need any of the newer stuff anyway. > >A word of advice: You'll obviously want to have some other 5250 >implementations available so that you can do the usual reverse >engineering. 5250 is rather complex, and the implementations have vary >considerable in quality, so don't put too much faith in any one 5250 >emulator (TN5250 or otherwise) as regards the performance of the more >obscure features (for example, the implementations of autofill, autoskip, >mandatory enter and the like are just all over the place, and those aren't >all that obscure). We picked up a few different models of "real" 5250 >terminals (used and cheap, of course) for baseline testing, which was >helpful. > >-Robert > >At 12:15 PM 5/7/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >>Hi Robert, >> >>Are there any latest documents which should give me all functions to be >>implemented without referring to the old out of print documents, in order >to >>develop a terminal emulation? >> >>Sameer >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:06 PM >>To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >>Subject: Re: >> >> >>Sameer, >> >>You can order many back level and "out-of-print" IBM publications from: >> >>http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/pb >i >>.cgi >> >>(Select search and enter SA21-9247 as the publication number). >> >>For the "out-of-print" stuff, this is a POD system, so anything "old" you >>order (at least in my experience) arrives in black and white and on 8.5x11 >>paper, which is rather funny if you've ordered a pocket reference card. >>But heck, so long as you can read it... >> >>-Robert >> >>At 02:31 PM 5/5/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >>>Hi all, >>> >>>I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. >>> >>>I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 >>>and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. >>>These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, >>>Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could >not >>>find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. >Which >>>are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two >>>protocols. >>> >>>Regards >>>Sameer >>> >> From owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Wed May 7 04:01:22 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (gdecker.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA19977 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h477wEbI019942; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22617 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:58:13 -0400 Received: from seaquest.net.nih.gov (seaquest.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.34]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h477wDbI019938 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seaquest.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seaquest.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h477w1IM018575 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:58:01 -0400 Received: from cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (h-69-3-227-68.CHCGILGM.covad.net [69.3.227.68]) by seaquest.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h477w1im018570 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 03:58:01 -0400 Received: from wessel (unverified) by cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Wed, 07 May 2003 02:58:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030507025838.00939a30@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> X-Sender: rwessel@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 02:58:38 -0500 To: , From: "Robert C. Wessel" Subject: Re: 3270 Documentation In-Reply-To: <000d01c3146c$6c6b4a20$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Sameer, That's the one you want. I'm pretty sure -07 is the latest revision. You'll also want to check out the following RFCs: RFC1576*, RFC1646, RFC1647, RFC2355*, RFC2561, RFC2562, RFC2877*, and RFC3049. The ones with an asterisk are the most likely to be of use. There's some other TELNET/TN3270/TLS related documents you may want to dig up if that's an issue for you. -Robert At 01:13 PM 5/7/03 +0530, you wrote: >Robert, > >I have IBM Manager print preview of 3270 programmers reference >(GA23-0059-07). Is this enough to start with terminal emulation development. >If not, what are the other documents I should refer to? > >-Sameer > From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 7 05:04:39 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA21473 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h478utbQ021599; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22866 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:00:40 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4790ebI021748 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4791qYx005064 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:01:52 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4791oKB005058 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:01:51 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h4790T407234; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:30:30 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28543; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:21:02 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: , , Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:33:02 +0530 Message-ID: <000f01c31477$779df450$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200305070946440005.002DB1EA@smtp.online.no> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks, that's very kind of you Hans. -Sameer -----Original Message----- From: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV [mailto:owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV]On Behalf Of Hans Erik Nesheim Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:17 PM To: sameer.neugui@TATAINFOTECH.COM; rwessel@cfsoft.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation Sameer, I have written a telnet 3270 and 5250 test service, which can be very usefully for your development. It's a NT service, which can handle both tn3270 and tn5250 clients. The reply from the service is different 3270 or 5250 screen images with most of the attributes needed. The service has three different ports for connections. One is a normal reply mode port, one is a slow mode reply port and the other is a stress test (performance) connection port. More information and download in the services section at www.nexit.com It can also be downloaded from the test center at www.tn3270.com Regards, Hans Erik *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 5/7/2003 at 13:07 sameer wrote: >Robert, > >I have IBM Manager print preview of 3270 programmers reference >(GA23-0059-07). Is this enough to start with terminal emulation >development. >If not, what are the other documents I should refer to? > >-Sameer > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV [mailto:owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV]On >Behalf Of Robert C. Wessel >Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:32 PM >To: sameer.neugui@TATAINFOTECH.COM; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >Subject: RE: 5250 Documentation > > >Sameer, > >There are new features in some newer terminals, but you'll want to start >with the 5250 Functions Reference (SA21-9247). Unless you have special >requirements, you'll probably not need any of the newer stuff anyway. > >A word of advice: You'll obviously want to have some other 5250 >implementations available so that you can do the usual reverse >engineering. 5250 is rather complex, and the implementations have vary >considerable in quality, so don't put too much faith in any one 5250 >emulator (TN5250 or otherwise) as regards the performance of the more >obscure features (for example, the implementations of autofill, autoskip, >mandatory enter and the like are just all over the place, and those aren't >all that obscure). We picked up a few different models of "real" 5250 >terminals (used and cheap, of course) for baseline testing, which was >helpful. > >-Robert > >At 12:15 PM 5/7/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >>Hi Robert, >> >>Are there any latest documents which should give me all functions to be >>implemented without referring to the old out of print documents, in order >to >>develop a terminal emulation? >> >>Sameer >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:06 PM >>To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >>Subject: Re: >> >> >>Sameer, >> >>You can order many back level and "out-of-print" IBM publications from: >> >>http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/public/applications/publications/cgibin/p b >i >>.cgi >> >>(Select search and enter SA21-9247 as the publication number). >> >>For the "out-of-print" stuff, this is a POD system, so anything "old" you >>order (at least in my experience) arrives in black and white and on 8.5x11 >>paper, which is rather funny if you've ordered a pocket reference card. >>But heck, so long as you can read it... >> >>-Robert >> >>At 02:31 PM 5/5/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >>>Hi all, >>> >>>I am new to this type of technology and have just joined the list. >>> >>>I want to develop a terminal emulation software for Telnet server on 5250 >>>and 3270. I checked for the specs on the internet just to find the RFCs. >>>These RFCs seems to be based on the "IBM 5250 Information Display System, >>>Functions Reference Manual", SA21-9247-6". This is one document I could >not >>>find on the IBM site. Can anyone tell me how to obtain this document. >Which >>>are the RFCs I should refer to to get sufficient knowldege about the two >>>protocols. >>> >>>Regards >>>Sameer >>> >> From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 7 05:04:47 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA21487 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 05:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h478utbK021599; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 22840 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:57:36 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h478vabI021613 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h478wnYx004945 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:58:49 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h478wkKB004932 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 04:58:47 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h478vRj06973; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:27:28 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA28471; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:18:00 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: "'Robert C. Wessel'" , Subject: RE: 3270 Documentation Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:30:00 +0530 Message-ID: <000e01c31477$0b34f6b0$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20030507025838.00939a30@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, Could u give me a similar list for 5250, if I m not asking for too much? I have the following 5250 related RFCs with me RFC 1010, RFC 1091, RFC 1205, RFC 1572, RFC 2877. Can anyone share the Functions Reference SA21-9247 for 5250? Thanks -Sameer -----Original Message----- From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:29 PM To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV Subject: Re: 3270 Documentation Sameer, That's the one you want. I'm pretty sure -07 is the latest revision. You'll also want to check out the following RFCs: RFC1576*, RFC1646, RFC1647, RFC2355*, RFC2561, RFC2562, RFC2877*, and RFC3049. The ones with an asterisk are the most likely to be of use. There's some other TELNET/TN3270/TLS related documents you may want to dig up if that's an issue for you. -Robert At 01:13 PM 5/7/03 +0530, you wrote: >Robert, > >I have IBM Manager print preview of 3270 programmers reference >(GA23-0059-07). Is this enough to start with terminal emulation development. >If not, what are the other documents I should refer to? > >-Sameer > From owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Thu May 8 03:36:01 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA14846 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 03:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h487SvbK011033; Thu, 8 May 2003 03:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 42777 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Thu, 8 May 2003 03:32:08 -0400 Received: from seaquest.net.nih.gov (seaquest.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.34]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h487W7bI011105 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 03:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from seaquest.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seaquest.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h487VrIM012914 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 03:31:53 -0400 Received: from cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (h-69-3-227-68.CHCGILGM.covad.net [69.3.227.68]) by seaquest.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h487Vqim012901 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 03:31:52 -0400 Received: from wessel (unverified) by cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Thu, 08 May 2003 02:31:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030508023134.009a0210@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> X-Sender: rwessel@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 02:31:34 -0500 To: , From: "Robert C. Wessel" Subject: RE: 3270 Documentation In-Reply-To: <000e01c31477$0b34f6b0$d22c7aa3@glory> References: <3.0.5.32.20030507025838.00939a30@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Sameer, RFC1205 is the base for TN5250. The other stuff you need is general Telnet and the various options. Be aware that RFC1010 is way out of date, and is replaced by STD2. -Robert At 02:30 PM 5/7/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >Robert, > >Could u give me a similar list for 5250, if I m not asking for too much? I >have the following 5250 related RFCs with me RFC 1010, RFC 1091, RFC 1205, >RFC 1572, RFC 2877. Can anyone share the Functions Reference SA21-9247 for >5250? > >Thanks >-Sameer > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert C. Wessel [mailto:rwessel@cfsoft.com] >Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:29 PM >To: sameer.neugui@tatainfotech.com; TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV >Subject: Re: 3270 Documentation > > >Sameer, > >That's the one you want. I'm pretty sure -07 is the latest revision. > >You'll also want to check out the following RFCs: RFC1576*, RFC1646, >RFC1647, RFC2355*, RFC2561, RFC2562, RFC2877*, and RFC3049. The ones with >an asterisk are the most likely to be of use. There's some other >TELNET/TN3270/TLS related documents you may want to dig up if that's an >issue for you. > >-Robert > >At 01:13 PM 5/7/03 +0530, you wrote: >>Robert, >> >>I have IBM Manager print preview of 3270 programmers reference >>(GA23-0059-07). Is this enough to start with terminal emulation >development. >>If not, what are the other documents I should refer to? >> >>-Sameer >> > > From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Wed May 28 00:05:54 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA18509 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 00:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4S3iKbS023045; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 48853 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:52:22 -0400 Received: from viper.net.nih.gov (viper.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.32]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4S3qMbI023842 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viper.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4S3pp7Q014353 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:51:52 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by viper.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4S3pnha014347 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:51:50 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h4S3qCZ14265 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 09:22:12 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA26276; Wed, 28 May 2003 09:11:12 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: Subject: graphics for 3270/5250 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:24:48 +0530 Message-ID: <000501c324cc$e2d3b740$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am interested in the type of graphic capabilities that are supported in 3270/5250 terminal emulation. Basically I want to know how to handle the Graphic information from the IBM server. Can the graphics be handled using Visual Basic? Can somebody please provide me with useful pointers? From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Fri May 30 02:39:39 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21314 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U6PgbM022730; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 33946 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:32:14 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U6WEbI023178 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4U6ZHP0026663 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:35:18 -0400 Received: from tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (180.tatainfotech.com [203.124.134.180] (may be forged)) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4U6ZFjK021949 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:35:16 -0400 Received: from goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (IDENT:root@tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in [127.0.0.1]) by tilmax.tatainfotech.co.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h4U6W4E03594 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:02:04 +0530 Received: from glory ([163.122.44.210]) by goamail.in.tatainfotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22029 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 11:51:24 +0530 Reply-To: From: "sameer" To: Subject: GUI mode Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:04:39 +0530 Message-ID: <002401c32675$8c92b5c0$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000501c324cc$e2d3b740$d22c7aa3@glory> Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, Is this forum so dumb? I did not receive any answers to my previous post. Or was my question very much outdated? Anyway, can anyone tell me whats a GUI mode and whats non GUI mode in 5250/3270 emulation? can anybody please list out the documents needed to developed both emulations? regards Sameer From owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Fri May 30 02:51:35 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA21524 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U6gqbK023954; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 34023 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:45:05 -0400 Received: from viper.net.nih.gov (viper.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.32]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U6j4bI024145 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viper.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4U6iV7Q025510 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:44:31 -0400 Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-core-1.cisco.com [64.102.124.12]) by viper.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4U6iUha025505 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:44:30 -0400 Received: from cisco.com (shako.cisco.com [64.102.17.78]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4U6ipFV011949; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28031; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: GUI mode From: Michael Boe To: sameer.neugui@TATAINFOTECH.COM Cc: TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV In-Reply-To: <002401c32675$8c92b5c0$d22c7aa3@glory> References: <002401c32675$8c92b5c0$d22c7aa3@glory> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1054277804.19726.103.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 29 May 2003 23:56:44 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tn3270e@LIST.NIH.GOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well...this forum is really for the standardization of protocols relating to TN3270(E) clients and servers, and also addresses protocol issues with TN5250 clients and servers. It is not about how to implement clients, and not really about any of the topics you've sought help on so far. regards, /msb On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 23:34, sameer wrote: > Dear all, > > Is this forum so dumb? I did not receive any answers to my previous post. Or > was my question very much outdated? Anyway, can anyone tell me whats a GUI > mode and whats non GUI mode in 5250/3270 emulation? > > can anybody please list out the documents needed to developed both > emulations? > > regards > Sameer -- Michael Boe From owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Fri May 30 03:28:08 2003 Received: from gdecker.net.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA22807 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from list.nih.gov (list.nih.gov [165.112.130.6]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U7BobU025947; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LIST.NIH.GOV by LIST.NIH.GOV (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 0081 for TN3270E@LIST.NIH.GOV; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:18:40 -0400 Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (mx5.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.36]) by gdecker.net.nih.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4U7IebI026391 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx5.net.nih.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4U7LjP0030381 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:21:45 -0400 Received: from cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (h-69-3-227-68.CHCGILGM.covad.net [69.3.227.68]) by mx5.net.nih.gov (8.12.8p1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4U7LijK030376 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:21:44 -0400 Received: from wessel (unverified) by cfs-nt1.cfsoft.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Fri, 30 May 2003 02:18:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20030530021832.009d26d0@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com> X-Sender: rwessel@cfs-dns-2.cfsoft.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:18:32 -0500 To: , From: "Robert C. Wessel" Subject: Re: GUI mode In-Reply-To: <002401c32675$8c92b5c0$d22c7aa3@glory> References: <000501c324cc$e2d3b740$d22c7aa3@glory> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-tn3270e@list.nih.gov Sameer, The IBM "3270 Information Display System, Datastream Programmer's Reference", GA23-0059-07, available from IBM, both electronically and in hardcopy, covers all of the relevant 3270 stuff. Go to: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/library and search on the document number. Graphics on 3270 are handled by defining character sets with symbols matching a character cell sized piece of your image (see the "Load Programmed Symbols" outbound structured field). Once defined, you select the character set and symbols to display with the "Character Set" extended attribute, or with the "Graphics Escape" (GE) order. In addition, you need to properly respond to the "Character Set" "Read Partition Query", and a few other things (amongst other things, review the "Graphic Color" and "Graphic Symbol Sets" RPQRs). There are also the "Object *" Inbound/Outbound SFs, which are supported on some devices, but I don't know many details, so you'll have to do some research. -Robert At 12:04 PM 5/30/03 +0530, sameer wrote: >Dear all, > >Is this forum so dumb? I did not receive any answers to my previous post. Or >was my question very much outdated? Anyway, can anyone tell me whats a GUI >mode and whats non GUI mode in 5250/3270 emulation? > >can anybody please list out the documents needed to developed both >emulations? > >regards >Sameer >