From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Dec 01 12:23:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyW3r-0004iU-VG; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:23:27 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IyW3q-0004iG-12 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:23:26 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyW3p-0004i8-No for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:23:25 -0500 Received: from boole.openldap.org ([2001:4f8:3:ba:2e0:18ff:fe02:efec]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyW3p-0007Ox-1q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:23:25 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([75.141.236.208]) (authenticated bits=0) by boole.openldap.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB1HNL3x024814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:23:22 GMT (envelope-from Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com) Message-Id: From: Kurt Zeilenga To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:23:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 2870a44b67ee17965ce5ad0177e150f4 Subject: [Tools-discuss] calendar tool and plenaries bug X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org The URL http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-IETF+Technical.ics returns an empty calendar.... -- Kurt _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Dec 01 14:28:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyY0m-0002hk-K1; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:28:24 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IyY0l-0002fD-CN for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:28:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyY0l-0002f5-2h for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:28:23 -0500 Received: from vapor.isi.edu ([128.9.64.64]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyY0k-0003IK-MT for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:28:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.46] (pool-71-106-88-149.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.106.88.149]) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB1JSDGK003655; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:28:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4751B5BB.2030909@isi.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:27:55 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Zeilenga Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] calendar tool and plenaries bug References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0370330827==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0370330827== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF95B63F0CC601EA441930E78" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF95B63F0CC601EA441930E78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PS - it might be useful to include a link on the main calendar page to the generator page, e.g. add a link to: http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/calendar on the main page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/70/agenda.html Kurt Zeilenga wrote: > The URL http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-IETF+Technical.ics > returns an empty calendar.... >=20 > -- Kurt >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --------------enigF95B63F0CC601EA441930E78 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHUbW7E5f5cImnZrsRAjLHAJ9V5gPDp7PcMfhn6/jvNxKDjA0PlACgy4bC llD+3CnEOmU8f1hk4AiS0/s= =pSWK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF95B63F0CC601EA441930E78-- --===============0370330827== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0370330827==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Dec 01 21:32:30 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyedA-0002OU-No; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:32:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyed9-0002OC-CP for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:32:27 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyed9-0002Nz-2p for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:32:27 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyed8-0004e0-Nb for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:32:27 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45913 helo=dhcp-127c.ietf70.org) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Iyed7-0002oL-Od; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 03:32:26 +0100 Message-ID: <47521938.5090106@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:32:24 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Zeilenga Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] calendar tool and plenaries bug References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Kurt, On 2007-12-01 09:23 Kurt Zeilenga said the following: > The URL http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-IETF+Technical.ics > returns an empty calendar.... So it does. I've made some changes; should be better after the next update, in about an hour. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 02 10:48:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyr3Q-0001Du-63; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:48:24 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyr3O-0001DY-Gx for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:48:22 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyr3O-0001DO-7Q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:48:22 -0500 Received: from boole.openldap.org ([2001:4f8:3:ba:2e0:18ff:fe02:efec]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyr3N-0000or-MD for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:48:22 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([75.141.236.208]) (authenticated bits=0) by boole.openldap.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB2FmHbR048250 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:48:18 GMT (envelope-from Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com) Message-Id: <084592BB-6026-4446-AB73-1713961FA82F@Isode.com> From: Kurt Zeilenga To: Kurt Zeilenga In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 07:48:17 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: calendar tool and plenaries bug X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik, Your new form produces the URL: http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-Technical+Plenary+IETF+Operations+and+Administration+Plenary.ics which also results in an empty calendar. If in addition to the plenaries, I select the Welcome Reception, I get the URL http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-Technical+Plenary++Welcome+Reception+IETF+Operations+and+Administration+Plenary.ics which produces a calendar with just one event, the Welcome Reception. It seems to me there are issues with handling sessions with spaces (represented as +) in the URL. I suggest you either use identifiers without spaces for sessions (e.g., "WelcomeReception") so that + can be safely used as a session identifier separator. -- Kurt _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 02 14:34:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyua2-0007NQ-FE; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:34:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyua1-0007Cr-7T for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:34:17 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyua0-0007Bp-T8 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:34:16 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyua0-0003nS-De for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:34:16 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42603 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IyuZz-0004YH-Mi; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:34:15 +0100 Message-ID: <475308B6.2030701@levkowetz.com> Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:34:14 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Zeilenga Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: calendar tool and plenaries bug References: <084592BB-6026-4446-AB73-1713961FA82F@Isode.com> In-Reply-To: <084592BB-6026-4446-AB73-1713961FA82F@Isode.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: Kurt.Zeilenga@Isode.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Kurt, On 2007-12-02 07:48 Kurt Zeilenga said the following: > Henrik, > > Your new form produces the URL: > http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-Technical+Plenary+IETF+Operations+and+Administration+Plenary.ics > > which also results in an empty calendar. Too tired last night, I guess. > If in addition to the plenaries, I select the Welcome Reception, I get > the URL > http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/70/ics/ietf-70-Technical+Plenary++Welcome+Reception+IETF+Operations+and+Administration+Plenary.ics > > which produces a calendar with just one event, the Welcome Reception. Yah. Yesterday's fix was bad. > It seems to me there are issues with handling sessions with spaces > (represented as +) in the URL. I suggest you either use identifiers > without spaces for sessions (e.g., "WelcomeReception") so that + can > be safely used as a session identifier separator. Correct observation and analysis. The only thing which saves my belief in myself here is that I realized this on my own before reading your impeccable conclusion ,:-) I believe I have a better fix now, but will test a bit more to be sure. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sun Dec 02 14:49:22 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyuob-0001di-Ej; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:49:21 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyuob-0001dH-71 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:49:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyuoa-0001cP-TI for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:49:20 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyuoY-0005iQ-14 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:49:20 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyuna-0000lm-Ec for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:48:18 +0000 Received: from c-134-88-218.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.134.88.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:48:18 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-134-88-218.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:48:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:39:32 +0100 Organization: Lines: 7 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-134-88-218.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Subject: [Tools-discuss] rfcdiff X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi, I've found a new rfcdiff trick, it can also compare a local (filename2=3D upload) with a public (url1=3D) file, demo: Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 03 15:58:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzINL-00019I-9A; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:58:47 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzINK-00013p-5D for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:58:46 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzINJ-00011s-QO for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:58:45 -0500 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([192.100.122.233] helo=mgw-mx06.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzINI-0004YF-7X for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:58:45 -0500 Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-mx06.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id lB3KvcuA010223 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:58:42 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:58:14 +0200 Received: from esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.53]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:58:14 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:58:13 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Tool prototype: Atom feed of slide uploads Thread-Index: Acg17zfjy+kb0Gu5SOmTuwfxglVv7Q== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2007 20:58:14.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[38A1E8D0:01C835EF] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Tool prototype: Atom feed of slide uploads X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I'd like to invite others to test & comment the tool prototype I worked on at the Saturday code sprint: Want to see what's new in the meeting materials page? (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/70/materials.html) Try this Atom feed: http://merlot.tools.ietf.org:31416/feed/wg-proceedings/ This isn't running against the real live database, so there's maybe 1-2 hour lag in stuff appearing here. (Other stuff you might want to try: go to Daily Dose, and add "?singlecolumn" or "?draftnamefirst" to the end of the URL.) Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 03 16:02:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIQU-0007O3-1v; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:02:02 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIQS-0007Nx-KS for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIQS-0007Nm-As for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.172] helo=mgw-ext13.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzIQQ-0004eF-NS for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh105.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.211]) by mgw-ext13.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id lB3L1sI1012961; Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:01:55 +0200 Received: from esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.34]) by esebh105.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:01:34 +0200 Received: from esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.53]) by esebh104.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:01:34 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Tools-discuss] rfcdiff Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:01:33 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] rfcdiff Thread-Index: Acg1HIBs9KVFNcc5TvmXOc+FjCEbOgA0s2uA References: From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2007 21:01:34.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFED00A0:01C835EF] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Cc: X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Frank Ellermann wrote: > Hi, I've found a new rfcdiff trick, it can also compare > a local (filename2=3D upload) with a public (url1=3D) file, > demo: Coincidentally, this was one of the things I hacked at the Saturday code sprint! Henrik has now put the new version online: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff (Another improvement: you can enter just "draft-foobar-03" or=20 "rfc 5054" instead of a complete URL; the tool automatically adds the "http://tools.ietf.org/something/ part.) Best regards, Pasi _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 03 19:07:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLK8-0005XR-ED; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:07:40 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLK6-0005Qv-DB for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:07:38 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLK6-0005Qj-3D for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:07:38 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLK4-0002HV-Kz for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:07:38 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLJs-0001Iw-Dg for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:07:24 +0000 Received: from c-180-160-31.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.180.160.31]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:07:24 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-180-160-31.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:07:24 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:09:26 +0100 Organization: Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-180-160-31.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: rfcdiff X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org wrote: > Henrik has now put the new version online: > http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff Anxiously checking that you didn't change the names of the parameters, one of the drawbacks of my tools form fan page: No, still url1/2 and filename1/2. Great, I guess it isn't too unusual that folks want to see a diff of a not yet submitted filename2 against the last url1. Without all those clicks needed to transform url1 in filename1 (or filename2 to url2) for the old official rfcdiff page, plus all the wasted bandwidth (looking at my blinking Courier, twelve years old and still working) > Another improvement: you can enter just "draft-foobar-03" > or "rfc 5054" instead of a complete URL; the tool=20 > automatically adds the "http://tools.ietf.org/something/ > part. Excellent. I hope it still accepts other locations for e.g. a public "editor's copy". If I ever arrange that I can got to an IETF meeting I'll bring some dark chocolate for Henrik... :-) Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 03 19:42:02 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLrO-0004Cc-PD; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:02 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLrO-0004CF-5B for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:02 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLrN-0004Bp-H0 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:01 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzLrM-0006AA-PJ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:01 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49708 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzLrL-000397-IK; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: <4754A255.8010604@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:41:57 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: rfcdiff References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-12-03 16:09 Frank Ellermann said the following: ... > Excellent. I hope it still accepts other locations for > e.g. a public "editor's copy". Sure. > If I ever arrange that I > can got to an IETF meeting I'll bring some dark chocolate > for Henrik... :-) In this case, the new functionality is due to Pasi, so he should get some too, if you make it some time :-) Thanks, Frank. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 04 15:36:08 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzeUv-0006ki-QA; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:36:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzeUu-0006kR-Hh for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:36:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzeUu-0006jH-7X for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:36:04 -0500 Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net ([216.86.168.178]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzeUt-0000Nf-O6 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:36:04 -0500 Received: from [130.129.55.92] (unknown [216.145.49.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D320823E49F; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 15:36:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:35:59 -0800 To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thanks; I'll have a look. I'm not terribly familiar with SVN administration; what do I use to control who can check in changes? Cheers, On 27/11/2007, at 6:20 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > On 2007-11-27 08:10 Mark Nottingham said the following: >> Hi, >> >> I note that Trac has a "Browse Source" link > wg/ >> httpbis/trac/browser>. Does this mean that a repository (CVS? SVN?) >> is available for working groups? > > Yes. Working groups which has Trac set up also has a SVN repository > available, at http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg//. > > However, this has not been used much so far; if you start using it and > run into any access issues at all, let me know and I'll fix as needed. > > > Henrik -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 04 16:53:16 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izfhc-0005DL-74; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:53:16 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Izfha-0005Bz-LV for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:53:14 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izfha-0005Bq-Bp for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:53:14 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzfhZ-0006nD-Us for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:53:14 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56029 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzfhY-0006bv-JR; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:53:12 +0100 Message-ID: <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:53:10 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-12-04 12:35 Mark Nottingham said the following: > Thanks; I'll have a look. I'm not terribly familiar with SVN > administration; what do I use to control who can check in changes? Access control is through httpd ACLs which use the same login/passwd as people use for wiki and tracker access on the tools server. I don't have a web interface in place for you to control the ACLs currently, so I do it manually as needed. You'll have to send me the logins (email addresses) which should have access. But as with the password updates, if the ACL changes become a noticeable time drain, I'll set up a web interface that the respective chairs can use. Best, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 04 17:42:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgT4-000597-KL; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgT4-00056T-2G for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:18 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgT3-00056J-OW for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:17 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgT3-0002Ty-59 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:17 -0500 Received: from [130.129.84.85] (unknown [130.129.84.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E274D05A3; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:42:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:42:12 -0800 To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Cc: Yves Lafon , Julian Reschke , "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Great. Please give write access to myself (using mnot@pobox.com), Julian, Yves and Roy (all CC:ed). Thanks, On 04/12/2007, at 1:53 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > > On 2007-12-04 12:35 Mark Nottingham said the following: >> Thanks; I'll have a look. I'm not terribly familiar with SVN >> administration; what do I use to control who can check in changes? > > Access control is through httpd ACLs which use the same login/passwd > as people use for wiki and tracker access on the tools server. > > I don't have a web interface in place for you to control the ACLs > currently, so I do it manually as needed. You'll have to send me > the logins (email addresses) which should have access. > > But as with the password updates, if the ACL changes become a > noticeable > time drain, I'll set up a web interface that the respective chairs > can use. > > > Best, > > Henrik -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 04 17:42:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgTi-000694-Rd; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgTh-00067I-Fu for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:57 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgTh-000678-5y for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:57 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzgTg-0002XS-TL for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:42:57 -0500 Received: from [130.129.84.85] (unknown [130.129.84.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123B9D05A3; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:42:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 14:42:53 -0800 To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: Yves Lafon , Julian Reschke , "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org ... to the httpbis repository. On 04/12/2007, at 2:42 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > Great. Please give write access to myself (using mnot@pobox.com), > Julian, Yves and Roy (all CC:ed). > > Thanks, > > > On 04/12/2007, at 1:53 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > >> >> >> On 2007-12-04 12:35 Mark Nottingham said the following: >>> Thanks; I'll have a look. I'm not terribly familiar with SVN >>> administration; what do I use to control who can check in changes? >> >> Access control is through httpd ACLs which use the same login/passwd >> as people use for wiki and tracker access on the tools server. >> >> I don't have a web interface in place for you to control the ACLs >> currently, so I do it manually as needed. You'll have to send me >> the logins (email addresses) which should have access. >> >> But as with the password updates, if the ACL changes become a >> noticeable >> time drain, I'll set up a web interface that the respective chairs >> can use. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik > > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 04 19:51:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IziU7-0003tv-Eq; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:51:31 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IziU6-0003tk-Hw for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:51:30 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IziU5-0003tb-II for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:51:30 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IziU5-0003o2-3e for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:51:29 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46177 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IziU2-0002Mx-RJ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:51:27 +0100 Message-ID: <4755F60C.6040603@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:51:24 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, fielding@gbiv.com, ylafon@w3.org, julian.reschke@gmx.de, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Cc: Yves Lafon , Julian Reschke , "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Mark, On 2007-12-04 14:42 Mark Nottingham said the following: > Great. Please give write access to myself (using mnot@pobox.com), > Julian, Yves and Roy (all CC:ed). > > Thanks, Done. Should read access (checkout, but not commit) be provided to no others, to authenticated users, or to anybody? Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 04 21:29:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izk0n-00054r-6k; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:29:21 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Izk0m-00054f-8d for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:29:20 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izk0l-00054W-Um for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:29:19 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izk0k-0000Tu-Hi for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:29:19 -0500 Received: from [130.129.84.85] (unknown [130.129.84.85]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D940D05BF; Tue, 4 Dec 2007 21:29:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4755F60C.6040603@levkowetz.com> References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> <4755F60C.6040603@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:29:14 -0800 To: Henrik Levkowetz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Cc: Paul Hoffman , Alexey Melnikov , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Yes please (anybody). Please also add Alexey and Paul (CC:ed). Thanks! On 04/12/2007, at 4:51 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Mark, > > On 2007-12-04 14:42 Mark Nottingham said the following: >> Great. Please give write access to myself (using mnot@pobox.com), >> Julian, Yves and Roy (all CC:ed). >> >> Thanks, > > Done. Should read access (checkout, but not commit) be provided > to no others, to authenticated users, or to anybody? > > > Henrik -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 05 16:08:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J01To-0006By-0T; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:08:28 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J01Th-0005w8-Gl for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:08:21 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J01Th-0005uq-5S for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:08:21 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J01Tf-00039q-OT for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:08:21 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39364 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J01Td-0007wW-9Y; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:08:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4757133F.8000108@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:08:15 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Repository? References: <747BD4EA-CC8D-4088-A8C5-A5FA1E92BA20@mnot.net> <474C27A4.9020702@levkowetz.com> <36FDEA36-BE89-4A55-9A40-76242CE33C60@mnot.net> <4755CC46.5040509@levkowetz.com> <4755F60C.6040603@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, alexey.melnikov@isode.com, phoffman@imc.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: e5ba305d0e64821bf3d8bc5d3bb07228 Cc: Paul Hoffman , Alexey Melnikov , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1077174095==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============1077174095== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBE575AE728BC4B83E48DD23F" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBE575AE728BC4B83E48DD23F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark, On 2007-12-04 18:29 Mark Nottingham said the following: > Yes please (anybody). >=20 > Please also add Alexey and Paul (CC:ed). Fixed. Henrik --------------enigBE575AE728BC4B83E48DD23F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHVxM/eVhrtTJkXCMRAgtEAKCAHRaGo5V4mMZC/0ZkJ/60ouneUgCg8TKo XwMU1OE+niJ+ZqpqciAm+RM= =nWQw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBE575AE728BC4B83E48DD23F-- --===============1077174095== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============1077174095==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 06 13:54:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0LrN-0001GF-IO; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:54:09 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J05Zo-00009o-Rp for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:30:56 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J05Zo-00008Q-Gw for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:30:56 -0500 Received: from imr1.ericy.com ([198.24.6.9]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J05Zo-0008TW-68 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:30:56 -0500 Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw751.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.51]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB61UtEG006057 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:30:55 -0600 Received: from ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se ([142.133.1.72]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:30:55 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 20:30:40 -0500 Message-ID: <6D19CA8D71C89C43A057926FE0D4ADAA542ED6@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ID Submission tool Thread-Index: Acg3p5wwHSAhOU9RT1iZNn2SMi4CQA== From: "Suresh Krishnan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2007 01:30:55.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[A577B110:01C837A7] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:54:08 -0500 Subject: [Tools-discuss] ID Submission tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Henrik, Here are two issues I would like to report on the IDST a) If I click on the link in the submitter authentication email, it = sends the new draft notification multiple times b) It would be nice to have a state called "Submitter auth required: = Email sent" after the email was sent Thanks Suresh _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 06 16:19:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0O7r-0005Tl-OH; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:19:19 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J0O7q-0005Ta-AK for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:19:18 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0O7q-0005TS-0s for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:19:18 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0O7p-0001kI-OC for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:19:17 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34890 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J0O7o-0005mu-G6; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:19:16 +0100 Message-ID: <47586752.10204@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:19:14 -0800 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Suresh Krishnan Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] ID Submission tool References: <6D19CA8D71C89C43A057926FE0D4ADAA542ED6@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <6D19CA8D71C89C43A057926FE0D4ADAA542ED6@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Suresh, On 2007-12-05 17:30 Suresh Krishnan said the following: > Hi Henrik, > Here are two issues I would like to report on the IDST > > a) If I click on the link in the submitter authentication email, it sends the new draft notification multiple times I've reported this to the secretariat developer (Michael) and it's been fixed. > b) It would be nice to have a state called "Submitter auth required: Email sent" after the email was sent Right. I think we'll go for this in the rewrite, rather than immediately, though. Best, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 07 21:44:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0pfa-0006SA-O5; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:43:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J0pfZ-0006OG-K9 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:43:57 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0pfZ-0006O7-A4 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:43:57 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J0pfY-0007r5-Tp for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:43:57 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Dec 2007 21:43:54 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lB82hsDC010528 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:43:54 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lB82hpZG016653 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 02:43:54 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.13]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:43:51 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 21:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: file length bug in calendar tool Thread-Index: Acg5RCd7S5OtjDhNTpyoBCePdvBymw== From: "Aamer Akhter (aakhter)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2007 02:43:51.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A7E51A0:01C83944] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1011; t=1197081834; x=1197945834; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=aakhter@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Aamer=20Akhter=20(aakhter)=22=20 |Subject:=20file=20length=20bug=20in=20calendar=20tool |Sender:=20 |To:=20; bh=4VbvXydK/X1G48OE7wHNgRiHsFmmhc51QiuL0nRzjJw=; b=A+3ruD1w5BjT6hrkOEr9KoeWSME0Y9KAyUzucAST64X7LgS1lSf4DHjAJU QWBNzWORlleTB15xu91RbcKXeFDHFnuysxI6VhxlCY9g4epy1ko3C9OQ8J/d 0fHU67rqmd; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=aakhter@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: b19722fc8d3865b147c75ae2495625f2 Subject: [Tools-discuss] file length bug in calendar tool X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Folks, I really like calendar tool, but ran into an issue when many events were = subscribed. It looks like the filename being provided in the ical URL is = too long. The error message is like the below: > > You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is > either > > read-protected or not readable by the server. > > > > If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. > > Error 403 I haven't seen the code, but I would think there are several ways to = address this: * if the file generated is static: - generate a MD5/whatever hash of the current filename that is being = used and just use that to=20 * if the data being used is dynamic: - don't pass a URL to a file, but just a URL to a script encoding the = selected items into the URL. That way the script can generate the .ics = every time.=20 Just some thoughts, this is a _great_ utility. Regards, --=20 Aamer Akhter / aa@cisco.com Ent & Commercial Systems, cisco Systems _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 11 17:11:08 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2DJk-0003t2-Ac; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:08 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2DJi-0003st-Rz for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:06 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2DJi-0003sl-Hf for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:06 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2DJi-0001wx-8q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:06 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [216.145.54.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF05D0500 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:04 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: <747CB557-2DA7-4718-A32D-0BF5E688EB22@gbiv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1676D7F4-8418-423D-A8FB-B96CF4DAB0C3@mnot.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Nottingham Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:10:54 +1100 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9182cfff02fae4f1b6e9349e01d62f32 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: trac is too slow X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Roy has started using trac for 2616bis, and made the comment below -- any insight into this? Cheers, Begin forwarded message: > From: "Roy T. Fielding" > Date: 12 December 2007 6:04:26 AM > To: Mark Nottingham > Cc: Julian Reschke , Yves Lafon > Subject: trac is too slow > > It now takes more than a minute for trac to render the timeline > page and more than five minutes to render a changeset page. > And it seems to be getting worse each time a commit is made. > Something is wrong with the installation -- there is no evidence > of this problem on other trac sites. > > ....Roy -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 11 20:55:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GoQ-00086U-CP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:55:02 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GoP-00086N-Vq for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:55:01 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GoP-00086F-MF for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:55:01 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GoN-0000sd-7W for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:55:01 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39197 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2GoI-0007SG-Ul; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:54:55 +0100 Message-ID: <475F3F6E.7010005@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:54:54 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tools Discussion X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Subject: [Tools-discuss] MsgLint ? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Forwarding this message, since I don't know who's handling apps.ietf.org, and who would be able to give more information about this: Henrik -------- Original Message -------- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:14:01 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Lynch Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com To: webmaster@tools.ietf.org >From this page: http://tools.ietf.org/inventory/verif-tools This tool I've been using has gone 404, and I sure miss it: http://www.apps.ietf.org/msglint.html The base URL is the default Apache install page, so hopefully it's just a messed up DocumentRoot/Directory mis-match in httpd.conf rather than a service going away... :-) _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 11 21:03:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GwJ-0005yd-Pv; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:03:11 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GwI-0005yW-8V for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:03:10 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GwH-0005yO-V7 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:03:09 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J2GwH-00013h-IE for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:03:09 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37459 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2GwG-0007w7-AR; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:03:08 +0100 Message-ID: <475F415C.2020501@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:03:08 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: trac is too slow References: <747CB557-2DA7-4718-A32D-0BF5E688EB22@gbiv.com> <1676D7F4-8418-423D-A8FB-B96CF4DAB0C3@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <1676D7F4-8418-423D-A8FB-B96CF4DAB0C3@mnot.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi Mark, On 2007-12-11 23:10 Mark Nottingham said the following: > Roy has started using trac for 2616bis, and made the comment below -- > any insight into this? Solved as of 1 hour ago. I re-booted one of the tools servers after a kernel upgrade earlier today, and due to an old /etc/network/interfaces file there was a misconfiguration of an interface, which through a somewhat complex chain caused this. Sorry for the trouble. Henrik > > Cheers, > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Roy T. Fielding" >> Date: 12 December 2007 6:04:26 AM >> To: Mark Nottingham >> Cc: Julian Reschke , Yves Lafon >> Subject: trac is too slow >> >> It now takes more than a minute for trac to render the timeline >> page and more than five minutes to render a changeset page. >> And it seems to be getting worse each time a commit is made. >> Something is wrong with the installation -- there is no evidence >> of this problem on other trac sites. >> >> ....Roy > > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 14 09:18:45 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3BND-0001GG-9s; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:18:43 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3BNC-0001GB-MY for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:18:42 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3BNC-0001G2-BY for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:18:42 -0500 Received: from mx2.nic.fr ([192.134.4.11]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3BNC-0007Hg-1E for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:18:42 -0500 Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 771AC1C0182 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:18:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735381C0176 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:18:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [192.134.4.69]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6731E58EB9B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:18:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:18:41 +0100 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 X-Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-5-686 i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 30ac594df0e66ffa5a93eb4c48bcb014 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Stable URL to a Working Group? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I would like to have a link to a Working Group with a stable identifier. Today, LTRU (for instance), is at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html but in the future, after its completion, the official URL will be http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/HISTORY/ltru-charter.XXXXXX.html Is there a way to have a stable URL? _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 14 12:49:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Ef2-0002BW-JZ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:49:20 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Ef1-0002BQ-93 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:49:19 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Ef0-0002BI-Tv for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:49:18 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Eey-0003aY-NX for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:49:18 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Eel-0005qx-3k for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:49:03 +0000 Received: from c-134-88-18.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.134.88.18]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:49:03 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-134-88-18.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:49:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:48:11 +0100 Organization: Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-134-88-18.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Is there a way to have a stable URL? IIRC (old WG) is stable, I can't test it today, empty pages and 500 errors on the tools server, likely caused by the DNS transition. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 14 13:51:11 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Fco-0002jt-36; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:51:06 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Fcm-0002jn-86 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:51:04 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Fcl-0002jf-Ug for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:51:03 -0500 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.229]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3Fcj-000549-0u for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:51:03 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so887704wra.13 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:51:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ixy6fikS5+kzV8AMj8yTuU/49DCpRNDU6p5tFV0nKdE=; b=iq8YgNSVm0U3u8U8ULTk3dWdIv1A8XgCHe4oS0qebblRnUEO6hEQ87/J0QEQ9p1dpBImdgVRNpAJc1ILh5JzyZ2TcNtb8LXfMBD0GqSkOR6M3hP1tqg0v0peESiQ620WupnkFuPxmFqUgEe87IgK5AKyOKgB+OzeKCGDmyl7r8I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V3XV4pMei9qQslEZhn4c/FFiNX2n1DxYIadagpg3ceXwaJWmaFU+DbNC6REuz14gbb8zrw5WYjzv8u19YfD9LM4RMOfcTMn6U/InLA2YiRWfxqSK0obFghC8DmyKpgAXoG/+I+GXlJELMCw8L7iXYflT9af6r6eMZcfUJtlJ4zw= Received: by 10.142.102.5 with SMTP id z5mr1724998wfb.92.1197658258695; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.1.1.4? ( [118.92.5.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm12814794wrh.2007.12.14.10.50.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:50:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4762D08C.1060704@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:50:52 +1300 From: Brian E Carpenter Organization: University of Auckland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Stable URL to a Working Group? References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> In-Reply-To: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-12-15 03:18, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > I would like to have a link to a Working Group with a stable > identifier. > > Today, LTRU (for instance), is at > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html but in the future, > after its completion, the official URL will be > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/HISTORY/ltru-charter.XXXXXX.html Closed WGs are actually in http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/index.html > > Is there a way to have a stable URL? IMHO, we shouldn't do that if there is any chance that a reader will miss the fact that the WG is closed. For example, there's nothing but the URL to tell you that http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/OLD/ipv6-charter.html is a closed group. Brian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 14 14:30:37 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3GF0-0005Hx-OM; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:30:34 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3GEz-0005Hs-HZ for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:30:33 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3GEy-0005HY-Nq for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:30:33 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J3GEy-0006Yn-8Z for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:30:32 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57693 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J3GEw-00084f-B7; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:30:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4762D9D6.9080103@levkowetz.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:30:30 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Ellermann Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-12-14 18:48 Frank Ellermann said the following: > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > >> Is there a way to have a stable URL? > > IIRC (old WG) is stable, Yes, it is. After the WG is closed, that is noted on the page, and the background colour changes, to indicate it's not a current WG. > I can't test it today, empty pages and 500 errors on the > tools server, likely caused by the DNS transition. Actually, one of the tools servers is having problems after a kernel upgrade. As soon as I get to it physically, I'm going to downgrade again. Till then, I've changed the DNS entries to resolve to www3.tools.ietf.org which is up and running. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 04:26:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CEi-0000gT-K0; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:26:08 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CEh-0000gL-7r for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:26:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CEg-0000gD-UX for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:26:06 -0500 Received: from mx2.nic.fr ([192.134.4.11]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CEg-0005IW-Bg for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:26:06 -0500 Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id CFE051C01DF; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:26:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2A71C01DA; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:26:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [192.134.4.69]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD22658EBEF; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:26:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:26:05 +0100 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: <20071217092605.GA5541@nic.fr> References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> <4762D08C.1060704@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4762D08C.1060704@gmail.com> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 X-Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-5-686 i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 07:50:52AM +1300, Brian E Carpenter wrote a message of 21 lines which said: > IMHO, we shouldn't do that if there is any chance that a reader will > miss the fact that the WG is closed. I tested with http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ipv6/ and the indications are: * the background color. If you do not use lynx :-) * the words "Concluded WG" _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 04:31:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CK0-00024B-Jb; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:31:36 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CJz-000244-Gy for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:31:35 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CJy-00023v-Is for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:31:35 -0500 Received: from mx2.nic.fr ([192.134.4.11]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4CJy-0000dB-8N for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:31:34 -0500 Received: from mx2.nic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C80F81C01F1; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:31:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from relay2.nic.fr (relay2.nic.fr [192.134.4.163]) by mx2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C343F1C01EF; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:31:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from bortzmeyer.nic.fr (batilda.nic.fr [192.134.4.69]) by relay2.nic.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FFB58EBEF; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:31:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:31:33 +0100 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer To: Frank Ellermann Message-ID: <20071217093133.GA6468@nic.fr> References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 X-Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-5-686 i686 Organization: NIC France X-URL: http://www.nic.fr/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:48:11PM +0100, Frank Ellermann wrote a message of 9 lines which said: > IIRC (old WG) is stable, It does not work for every closed WG. For instance, http://tools.ietf.org/wg/provreg says "Object not found!" (Provreg was closed in april 2004.) _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 08:02:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Fbn-0007oS-Ts; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:02:11 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Fbm-0007nf-6u for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:02:10 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Fbl-0007nV-IZ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:02:09 -0500 Received: from usaga01-in.huawei.com ([206.16.17.211]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Fbh-0001Ix-Q5 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:02:09 -0500 Received: from huawei.com (usaga01-in [172.18.4.6]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JT7006B72VGDE@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from s73602 (cpe-72-190-0-23.tx.res.rr.com [72.190.0.23]) by usaga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JT7003GF2VER3@usaga01-in.huawei.com> for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:02:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:01:43 -0600 From: Spencer Dawkins Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-id: <010e01c840ac$f931eb50$6601a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> <20071217093133.GA6468@nic.fr> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org If I might interject, I don't think the request was for a URL that appears to *be* stable (which is where this discussion went), but for a URL that was committed to *remain* stable. That has something to do with a policy commitment, not just tools. >> IIRC (old WG) is stable, > > It does not work for every closed WG. For instance, > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/provreg says "Object not found!" (Provreg was > closed in april 2004.) I should also add that Gen-ART (and other) reviewers are asking authors to remove references to working groups "because RFCs live forever while working groups conclude". We could discuss that policy, but not without a committed URL for working groups that remains active when the workin group concludes. Thanks, Spencer _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 13:10:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4KPy-0005RV-KK; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:10:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4KPv-0005Qd-KQ for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:10:15 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4KPv-0005QU-77 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:10:15 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4KPu-0008Ec-S9 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:10:15 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 10:10:14 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lBHIAEvD029166; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:10:14 -0800 Received: from dwingwxp01 ([10.32.240.198]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lBHIADCD008941; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:10:13 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:10:13 -0800 Message-ID: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AchA2BHfQBabw2TCSKyZSogfICZVfA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1012; t=1197915014; x=1198779014; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Dan=20Wing=22=20 |Subject:=20IDST=20draft=20name=20validation=20for=20-00=20 drafts |Sender:=20; bh=Q+chbTDQ0KwVXn7geIH2PLCUt4g6jzQMMvpDC53Vg4o=; b=ocHF9cETDpOVPOjS/zkfbGoCrT8f8aYEXBz1A3CsAhvpyAyTXxjoVBKiX/ vpYDQALxN3n/IOCM84qGyfRhc92U+3E+LGSjBlnNoqD8MqZ70utEVi7c6ebB 9eS7eaUSqc; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=dwing@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 79899194edc4f33a41f49410777972f8 Cc: 'Brian Stucker' , 'Hannes Tschofenig' Subject: [Tools-discuss] IDST draft name validation for -00 drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Recently, draft-sipping-stucker-media-path-middleboxes-00.txt was posted using IDST. A mistake was made and it is called "draft-sipping-stucker" rather than the intended "draft-stucker-sipping". It seems useful for IDST to check, upon submission of a -00 draft, for a collision of the string after "draft-" and before the next "-" with an existing working group name. If such a collision occurs, an additional confirmation could be requested of the submitter. This would not slow down the submission process, but would provide a way for a submitter to notice an easy-to-make mistake such as this. (More desirable would be to validate that the LASTNAME (draft-LASTNAME-*) matches one of the author's last names, but this is difficult with non-US-ASCII last names, draft-manyfolks-*, and compound last names ("Mac Manas" could legitimately be either macmanas or mac-manus. Thus, validating there isn't a collision with existing working groups could be useful and easier to implement.) -d _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 15:30:18 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4MbS-00035q-4Q; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:30:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4MbQ-00035k-VH for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:30:16 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4MbQ-00035c-Lf for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:30:16 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4MbO-00085y-2y for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:30:16 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57090 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4MbF-0003fT-2C; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: <4766DC4C.8010501@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:30:04 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephane Bortzmeyer Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> <20071217093133.GA6468@nic.fr> In-Reply-To: <20071217093133.GA6468@nic.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: bortzmeyer@nic.fr, hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Cc: Frank Ellermann , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-12-17 10:31 Stephane Bortzmeyer said the following: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:48:11PM +0100, > Frank Ellermann wrote > a message of 9 lines which said: > >> IIRC (old WG) is stable, > > It does not work for every closed WG. For instance, > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/provreg says "Object not found!" (Provreg was > closed in april 2004.) Correct. I don't have a canonical list of concluded WGs, and haven't gone back to re-create WGs closed before I set up the tools.ietf.org WG pages. I'll see about generating pages for concluded WGs now, though. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 15:38:08 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Mj2-0000ra-N6; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:38:08 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Mj1-0000rP-Bo for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:38:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Mj1-0000rH-25 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:38:07 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Mj0-0008N7-O5 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:38:07 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43765 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4Miz-000488-Ew; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:38:05 +0100 Message-ID: <4766DE2D.1040301@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:38:05 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Wing Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST draft name validation for -00 drafts References: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: dwing@cisco.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, obsidian97@gmail.com, Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: 'Brian Stucker' , 'Hannes Tschofenig' , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 2007-12-17 19:10 Dan Wing said the following: > Recently, draft-sipping-stucker-media-path-middleboxes-00.txt was posted using > IDST. A mistake was made and it is called "draft-sipping-stucker" rather than > the intended "draft-stucker-sipping". > > It seems useful for IDST to check, upon submission of a -00 draft, for a > collision of the string after "draft-" and before the next "-" with an > existing working group name. If such a collision occurs, an additional > confirmation could be requested of the submitter. This would not slow down > the submission process, but would provide a way for a submitter to notice an > easy-to-make mistake such as this. > > (More desirable would be to validate that the LASTNAME (draft-LASTNAME-*) > matches one of the author's last names, but this is difficult with > non-US-ASCII last names, draft-manyfolks-*, and compound last names ("Mac > Manas" could legitimately be either macmanas or mac-manus. Thus, validating > there isn't a collision with existing working groups could be useful and > easier to implement.) Reasonable suggestions. I've forwarded this to the submission tool developers list. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 16:14:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NI9-00089P-HU; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:14:25 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NI8-00089J-Tu for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:14:24 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NI8-00087j-J3 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:14:24 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NI7-0001s7-Bo for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:14:24 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.102.121.158]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 16:14:23 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lBHLENBD013652 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:14:23 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lBHLDFj7001682 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:14:22 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.13]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:13:26 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: single page with listing of RSS feeds? 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Is a single page that has a listing of the IETF feeds? --=20 Aamer Akhter / aa@cisco.com Ent & Commercial Systems, cisco Systems _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 16:19:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NN5-0004uJ-Pj; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:31 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NN4-0004u3-Jb for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:30 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NN4-0004tv-8I for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:30 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NN3-0001Nu-Ob for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:30 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 13:19:29 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lBHLJTBB003683; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:19:29 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lBHLJOLG018585; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:19:29 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-212.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.187]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:19:24 -0800 Received: from [10.32.244.220] ([10.32.244.220]) by xfe-sjc-212.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:19:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> References: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <45EA024E-B939-4CB2-9F9D-592DD5F67E23@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Fred Baker Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST draft name validation for -00 drafts Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:19:12 -0800 To: Dan Wing X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Dec 2007 21:19:24.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F7AD9C0:01C840F2] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=2707; t=1197926369; x=1198790369; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; z=From:=20Fred=20Baker=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20IDST=20draft=20name=2 0validation=20for=20-00=20drafts |Sender:=20; bh=NdmF5FGcaR8jSLzQrI6fmpuCx85psNGvAABbGvwGrMQ=; b=Mzjn7+HmCj6z81krGEBPUIUkVhqtSvMQBL3K0KIeH/MJw7QltMGGpRUHZR KUw9951oA249Dk1byvs2OWmcWPSWXp+ltH11JNZWIPgrTmpcbDfZgJClRWJ0 sDabBPBGhD; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=fred@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5a9a1bd6c2d06a21d748b7d0070ddcb8 Cc: 'Brian Stucker' , 'Hannes Tschofenig' , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Dan Wing wrote: > (More desirable would be to validate that the LASTNAME (draft- > LASTNAME-*) matches one of the author's last names, but this is > difficult with non-US-ASCII last names, draft-manyfolks-*, and > compound last names ("Mac Manas" could legitimately be either > macmanas or mac-manus. Thus, validating there isn't a collision > with existing working groups could be useful and easier to implement.) we have loosely followed the following convention for some time: draft-ietf---. working group draft draft----. personal submission to working group draft---. "other" Following that rubric, we today have 705 working group drafts in 121 working groups or BOF topics, 677 individual submissions to working groups or BOF topics, and 462 "other" drafts. One thing we might consider here is to in some way determine the intent of the poster. If it falls into either of the first two categories, and in the first category is on the list the WG chair authorized, it's kind of a done deal. If it is of the third category, it might be of value to ask the submitter who s/he would like to review it. It may be that the answer is "6man and v6ops", in which case leaving the WG name off but posting an ID-posting announcement to both lists would make sense. If the answer is a given WG, answering "please encode the name as draft---- ." would make sense. And if the answer really is "general", so be it, post the thing. Next question: what problem does that solve? For me as a WG chair, it is a convenient organizing principle: if the convention is followed, I know for sure which drafts are mine to worry about. I enforce the usage pretty mildly - if someone writes "I'd like to discuss draft-carpenter-shanti and draft-van-beijnum- modified-nat-pt in v6ops this week", I'm OK with that. Reason: well, maybe they weren't sure whether it belonged in v6ops, 6man, or something else. In the particular cases here, my charter precludes picking it up in v6ops, so the authors can be forgiven for not knowing where to direct their documents. But in general, I'd like to be able to go to the ID tracker, enter "v6ops", and get a summary of stuff on my plate. For me as a contributor to various activities, it doesn't solve any problem at all. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFHZufRbjEdbHIsm0MRAuWvAKCExhcafwCZUS8uTHrEvwkldZ68bQCdHWCi 4Djxdhy2zOK4BPkdO/QBF3E= =Lp9K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 16:19:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NNH-0004x5-Ub; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:43 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NNH-0004wB-52 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:43 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NNG-0004w3-Rb for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:42 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4NNF-00026j-H5 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:42 -0500 Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Dec 2007 13:19:41 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lBHLJfgs024230; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:19:41 -0800 Received: from dwingwxp01 ([10.32.240.198]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lBHLJe41024265; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:19:40 GMT From: "Dan Wing" To: "'Henrik Levkowetz'" References: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> <4766DE2D.1040301@levkowetz.com> Subject: RE: [Tools-discuss] IDST draft name validation for -00 drafts Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:19:40 -0800 Message-ID: <0b1e01c840f2$897c7f00$c6f0200a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AchA7Ltd6pHMtW7mSqidwAxf6W7P6QABcmUQ In-Reply-To: <4766DE2D.1040301@levkowetz.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1280; t=1197926381; x=1198790381; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim3002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=dwing@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Dan=20Wing=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20IDST=20draft=20name=2 0validation=20for=20-00=20drafts |Sender:=20; bh=WZW7exqUvMbsWah2LM9MtaQ2lPAMPzQPy1whCgZSmT8=; b=pAjGcFjE0y0rRbfVm0D/x3bwjhR9zKHudo/jq6MqgX5gojpTyrFjx4Shp1 hpLPb58RZ2961b1BzBYCfI/KBIN+evHMK6KUtdlBC+nquW43bQuW/rxnut4m dC/luDNDqz; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=dwing@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 Cc: 'Brian Stucker' , 'Hannes Tschofenig' , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org > On 2007-12-17 19:10 Dan Wing said the following: > > Recently, > draft-sipping-stucker-media-path-middleboxes-00.txt was posted using > > IDST. A mistake was made and it is called > "draft-sipping-stucker" rather than > > the intended "draft-stucker-sipping". > > > > It seems useful for IDST to check, upon submission of a -00 > draft, for a > > collision of the string after "draft-" and before the next > "-" with an > > existing working group name. If such a collision occurs, > an additional > > confirmation could be requested of the submitter. This > would not slow down > > the submission process, but would provide a way for a > submitter to notice an > > easy-to-make mistake such as this. > > > > (More desirable would be to validate that the LASTNAME > (draft-LASTNAME-*) > > matches one of the author's last names, but this is difficult with > > non-US-ASCII last names, draft-manyfolks-*, and compound > last names ("Mac > > Manas" could legitimately be either macmanas or mac-manus. > Thus, validating > > there isn't a collision with existing working groups could > be useful and > > easier to implement.) > > Reasonable suggestions. I've forwarded this to the submission tool > developers list. Thanks! -d _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 17 17:04:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4O48-0008J5-OD; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:04:00 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4O48-0008Ix-11 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:04:00 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4O47-0008Io-LA; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:03:59 -0500 Received: from shaman.nostrum.com ([72.232.15.10] helo=nostrum.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4O46-0002hX-V4; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:03:59 -0500 Received: from [172.17.1.65] (vicuna-alt.estacado.net [75.53.54.121]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBHM3vMX040315 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:03:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Tools , Working Group Chairs Message-Id: References: <7F442C1D-03B9-4324-AB30-0F9E1BD6F3EE@estacado.net> From: Robert Sparks Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:03:52 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5160/Mon Dec 17 10:46:31 2007 on shaman.nostrum.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 3971661e40967acfc35f708dd5f33760 Cc: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: Initial Version Approval Request for draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2100711798==" Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org --===============2100711798== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-27-578500133 --Apple-Mail-27-578500133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed So, an anecdotal data point: I clicked on the link below and was surprised. Yes, the mail itself detailed exactly what was going to happen, but somehow I had morphed my expectations into being presented a page with a link to the document being asked for approval (from which I would check that it was appropriate and then hit approve). In this case, I would have hit approve anyhow (luckily). Would it be reasonable to ask for the link to goto a "Review this information and then say OK" page? (As a bonus, that page would already contain idnits output). It would also be ok for that to be a second link in the email if some folks want to keep the one-click does it all feature of the current system. RjS Begin forwarded message: > From: IETF I-D Submission Tool > Date: December 10, 2007 10:48:18 PM CST > To: geopriv-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Initial Version Approval Request for draft-ietf-geopriv- > lis-discovery > > Martin Thomson (martin.thomson@andrew.com) has requested approval > to post the initial version of draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery. > Please click the link below to approve this document. > > Once the link is clicked, you will be brought to a Web site that will > ask for login information. (You can use the same user name and > password > that you use for other IETF WG tools.) > Upon a successful login, the document will immediately be approved, > and you will see a notification message. > > If the document has already been approved by the other chair, then > the Web site will display an appropriate indication. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_init_rev_approval.cgi? > command=record_approval&filename=draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery > > The IETF Secretariat. --Apple-Mail-27-578500133 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

So, an anecdotal data = point:

I clicked = on the link below and was surprised. Yes, the mail itself detailed = exactly what was going to happen, but somehow I had
morphed my = expectations into being presented a page with a link to the document = being asked for approval (from which I would
check that it was = appropriate and then hit approve).

In this case, I would have = hit approve anyhow (luckily).

Would it be reasonable to = ask for the link to goto a "Review this information and then say OK" = page? (As a bonus, that page would already
contain idnits = output).

It = would also be ok for that to be a second link in the email if some folks = want to keep the one-click does it all feature of the current = system.

RjS

= Begin forwarded message:

From: = IETF I-D Submission Tool <idsubmission@ietf.org>=
Date: December 10, 2007 10:48:18 PM = CST
Subject: Initial Version Approval Request = for=A0 = draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery=A0

Martin = Thomson (martin.thomson@andrew.com) = has requested approval to post the initial version of = draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery.
Please click = the link below to approve this document.

Once the link = is clicked, you will be brought to a Web site that will
ask for login information. (You can use the same = user name and password
that you use for other IETF = WG tools.)
Upon a successful login, the = document will immediately be approved, =A0
and you = will see a notification message.

If the document has already been = approved by the other chair, then =A0
the Web = site will display an appropriate indication.

<= div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; = margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">
The IETF = Secretariat.


= --Apple-Mail-27-578500133-- --===============2100711798== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============2100711798==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 02:49:54 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4XD6-0004hQ-M5; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:49:52 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4XD5-0004hL-KA for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:49:51 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4XCz-0004gy-Kt for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:49:45 -0500 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([192.100.122.230] helo=mgw-mx03.nokia.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4XCx-0006Hj-KY for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:49:45 -0500 Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-mx03.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id lBI7nIc7010841; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:49:40 +0200 Received: from esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.138.183]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:49:33 +0200 Received: from esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.21.143.53]) by esebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:49:32 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Tools-discuss] single page with listing of RSS feeds? 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Thread-Index: AchA8aklqDWk+P/WSJq5yy2bzSdIQgAWBUww References: From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2007 07:49:32.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[870ED260:01C8414A] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Cc: X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org We have this one (compiled by me and Bill Fenner at the=20 Vancouver code sprint -- if you notice something missing, please email me): http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/tools/trac/wiki/AtomFeeds Best regards, Pasi=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Aamer Akhter (aakhter) [mailto:aakhter@cisco.com]=20 > Sent: 17 December, 2007 23:13 > To: tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: [Tools-discuss] single page with listing of RSS feeds? >=20 > Is a single page that has a listing of the IETF feeds? >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Aamer Akhter / aa@cisco.com > Ent & Commercial Systems, cisco Systems _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 04:39:44 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4YvP-000070-Ip; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:39:43 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4YvO-00006u-Oj for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:39:42 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4YvO-00006m-FD for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:39:42 -0500 Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net ([216.86.168.178]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4YvN-0000iX-42 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:39:42 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.110] (unknown [121.44.184.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC66C23E49A; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:39:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> From: Mark Nottingham To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:39:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: "Roy T. Fielding" Subject: [Tools-discuss] Serving HTML from svn X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org How do we affect the media type of content served from SVN? See: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/httpbis/draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/ (all of which are served as text/plain). Cheers, -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 05:59:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aAZ-0007GE-1W; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:59:27 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aAX-0007Fs-7H for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:59:25 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aAW-0007Fa-Rz for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:59:24 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aAW-0005ne-5i for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:59:24 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 Dec 2007 10:59:22 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.118]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 18 Dec 2007 11:59:22 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+XKxth8U6XT9VksCEFIREOkKJhdwQpyV8EQrEphd VNdIFYExj1PbPk Message-ID: <4767A808.7010909@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:59:20 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Serving HTML from svn References: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89 Cc: "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mark Nottingham wrote: > How do we affect the media type of content served from SVN? > > See: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/httpbis/draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/ > > (all of which are served as text/plain). I guess by setting svn:mime-type; but it looks this was already done (and the HTTP response is OK now as well). BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 06:02:51 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aDr-0006e0-RD; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:02:51 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aDr-0006dv-0n for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:02:51 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aDq-0006dn-NN for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:02:50 -0500 Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net ([216.86.168.178]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aDq-0002OV-C7 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:02:50 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.110] (unknown [121.44.184.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B26F23E4B6; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:02:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7D966CB8-FC37-45B0-AD65-55F3813B581E@mnot.net> From: Mark Nottingham To: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: <4767A808.7010909@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Serving HTML from svn Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:02:15 +1100 References: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> <4767A808.7010909@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a Cc: "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Heh. I'm getting this at the top of the p1 diff; HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:36:26 GMT Server: Apache/ 2.2.6 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.4 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.4.4 mod_ssl/ 2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:49:32 GMT ETag: "56//draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/draft-ietf- httpbis-p1-messaging-00-from-rfc2616-symrefs.diff.html" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 1871144 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wasn't getting this a moment ago; did something get messed up? On 18/12/2007, at 9:59 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > Mark Nottingham wrote: >> How do we affect the media type of content served from SVN? >> See: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/httpbis/draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/ >> (all of which are served as text/plain). > > I guess by setting svn:mime-type; but it looks this was already done > (and the HTTP response is OK now as well). > > BR, Julian -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 10:16:27 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4eBB-0003Tk-Ft; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:16:21 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4eB9-00039Y-Go for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:16:19 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4eB9-00036H-3d for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:16:19 -0500 Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org ([194.146.105.14]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4eB7-00012J-FU for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:16:19 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51885 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4eAl-0006Is-Pt; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:15:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4767E42A.3010806@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:15:54 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nottingham Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Serving HTML from svn References: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> <4767A808.7010909@gmx.de> <7D966CB8-FC37-45B0-AD65-55F3813B581E@mnot.net> In-Reply-To: <7D966CB8-FC37-45B0-AD65-55F3813B581E@mnot.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: mnot@mnot.net, julian.reschke@gmx.de, fielding@gbiv.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e8a67952aa972b528dd04570d58ad8fe Cc: Julian Reschke , "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mark, are you still seeing the wrong Content-type: ? When testing here, I get text/html, which is what I'd expect after Roy's commit http://www.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/changeset/57 (after your first message, but before Julian's below). (I'm seeing this now: 1 HTTP/1.1 200 OK 2 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:05:01 GMT 3 Server: Apache/2.2.6 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.4 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.4.4 mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 4 Last-Modified: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:07:35 GMT 5 ETag: "61//draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-00-from-rfc2616-symrefs.diff.html" 6 Accept-Ranges: bytes 7 Content-Length: 1955998 8 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 9 Connection: Keep-Alive 10 Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 ) Could there be a caching proxy giving you the result immediately below? The timestamp indicates that it's from before Roy's commit, which was at 09:51:52 GMT ... Regards, Henrik On 2007-12-18 12:02 Mark Nottingham said the following: > Heh. I'm getting this at the top of the p1 diff; > HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:36:26 GMT Server: Apache/ > 2.2.6 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.4 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.4.4 mod_ssl/ > 2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Tue, 18 > Dec 2007 07:49:32 GMT ETag: "56//draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/draft-ietf- > httpbis-p1-messaging-00-from-rfc2616-symrefs.diff.html" Accept-Ranges: > bytes Content-Length: 1871144 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 > Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Wasn't getting this a moment ago; did something get messed up? > > > On 18/12/2007, at 9:59 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > >> Mark Nottingham wrote: >>> How do we affect the media type of content served from SVN? >>> See: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/httpbis/draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/ >>> (all of which are served as text/plain). >> I guess by setting svn:mime-type; but it looks this was already done >> (and the HTTP response is OK now as well). >> >> BR, Julian > > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 10:19:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4eEZ-0002vG-4s; 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charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss --===============0702245648==-- From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 11:10:28 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4f1W-0005IU-Qh; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:26 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4f1V-0005IO-Fv for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4f1V-0005IF-4l for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com ([64.102.122.149]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4f1U-0007kH-PJ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com ([64.102.121.159]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Dec 2007 11:10:24 -0500 Received: from rtp-core-2.cisco.com (rtp-core-2.cisco.com [64.102.124.13]) by rtp-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lBIGAOxN016003; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:24 -0500 Received: from xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-201.cisco.com [64.102.31.12]) by rtp-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lBIGAOiZ012091; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:10:24 GMT Received: from xmb-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.13]) by xbh-rtp-201.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:24 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Tools-discuss] single page with listing of RSS feeds? Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:10:21 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] single page with listing of RSS feeds? Thread-Index: AchA8aklqDWk+P/WSJq5yy2bzSdIQgAWBUwwABGlb6A= References: From: "Aamer Akhter (aakhter)" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2007 16:10:24.0051 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EEB6030:01C84190] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1254; t=1197994224; x=1198858224; c=relaxed/simple; s=rtpdkim2001; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=aakhter@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Aamer=20Akhter=20(aakhter)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20single=20page=20with= 20listing=20of=20RSS=20feeds? |Sender:=20 |To:=20,=20; bh=hpCgKrZU6LKdd8HpSK62Bl9YAAG4/dToT2P9rFyusLs=; b=Fm8UVx3InEXupXRENwLcIys7rNaA64YsSu5x8rygRIM1TyAqxNjijoNp7g VjkUJnx1cAmBpf2pjobK3pzZZsZ9wxuLC9+rmD1+eyP2qSJEPITLb87peoJH KQRnBR821Y; Authentication-Results: rtp-dkim-2; header.From=aakhter@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/rtpdkim2001 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1e48a527f609d1be2bc8d8a70eb76cb Cc: X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thanks, Pasi, I really like the concept of user selectable data, eg: https://datatracker.ietf.org/feed/liaison/subject/PCE/ Which searches for PCE in the subject of the liaison statements. Perhaps = there is an easy way to add this to the I-D feeds. --=20 Aamer Akhter / aa@cisco.com Ent & Commercial Systems, cisco Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com [mailto:Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:50 AM > To: Aamer Akhter (aakhter); tools-discuss@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Tools-discuss] single page with listing of RSS feeds? >=20 > We have this one (compiled by me and Bill Fenner at the > Vancouver code sprint -- if you notice something missing, > please email me): >=20 > http://www3.tools.ietf.org/group/tools/trac/wiki/AtomFeeds >=20 > Best regards, > Pasi >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ext Aamer Akhter (aakhter) [mailto:aakhter@cisco.com] > > Sent: 17 December, 2007 23:13 > > To: tools-discuss@ietf.org > > Subject: [Tools-discuss] single page with listing of RSS feeds? > > > > Is a single page that has a listing of the IETF feeds? > > > > > > > > -- > > Aamer Akhter / aa@cisco.com > > Ent & Commercial Systems, cisco Systems _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 11:21:36 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fCG-0002GM-Kn; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:21:32 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fCF-0002Fk-Nl for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:21:31 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fCF-0002E6-DE for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:21:31 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fCD-0002ny-Ko for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:21:31 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fC3-0007Bz-E6 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:21:19 +0000 Received: from c-134-88-157.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.134.88.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:21:19 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-134-88-157.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:21:19 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:20:47 +0100 Organization: Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> <45EA024E-B939-4CB2-9F9D-592DD5F67E23@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-134-88-157.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: IDST draft name validation for -00 drafts X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fred Baker wrote: > One thing we might consider here is to in some way determine the =20 > intent of the poster. If it falls into either of the first two =20 > categories, and in the first category is on the list the WG chair =20 > authorized, it's kind of a done deal. If it is of the third category, = > it might be of value to ask the submitter who s/he would like to =20 > review it. It may be that the answer is "6man and v6ops", in which =20 > case leaving the WG name off but posting an ID-posting announcement =20 > to both lists would make sense. If the answer is a given WG, =20 > answering "please encode the name as draft----=20 > ." would make sense. And if the answer really is =20 > "general", so be it, post the thing. =20 > Next question: what problem does that solve? [...] > For me as a contributor to various activities, it doesn't solve > any problem at all. It would be nice if announcements are copied to the relevant list, for your second set that has to be confirmed by the submitter (the tool isn't very smart at guessing), for your third set a submitter needs a way to specify what "relevant list" is. Of course a Cc: might never make it if list owners don't permit this. Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 11:35:03 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fPE-0003XL-QR; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:34:56 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fPD-0003R8-UG for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:34:55 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fPD-0003OH-Iw for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:34:55 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fPD-0008Rc-7i for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:34:55 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fP3-0002AL-2c for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:34:45 +0000 Received: from c-134-88-157.hh.dial.de.ignite.net ([62.134.88.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:34:45 +0000 Received: from nobody by c-134-88-157.hh.dial.de.ignite.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:34:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: "Frank Ellermann" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:34:14 +0100 Organization: Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <20071214141841.GA5946@nic.fr> <20071217093133.GA6468@nic.fr> <4766DC4C.8010501@levkowetz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-134-88-157.hh.dial.de.ignite.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1914 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Stable URL to a Working Group? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Ellermann List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > I'll see about generating pages for concluded WGs now, though. Thanks. For some inspirations what folks care about see the page with a table of "other IETF lists", a proper subset of these lists belonged to closed WGs. It might be not obvious, e.g. SMTP and RFC822 belonged to DRUMS at some point in time: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/nwg_list.cgi Frank _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 11:45:56 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fZJ-0000nn-7e; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:45:21 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fZI-0000nX-0B for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:45:20 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fZH-0000nO-LM for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:45:19 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com ([171.71.176.117]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fZH-0002O3-BN for tools-discuss@ietf.org; 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Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:23:37 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4h6O-0003JZ-Nu for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:23:36 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4h6O-0003JL-Dl for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:23:36 -0500 Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org ([194.146.105.14]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4h6M-0007Lh-Ex for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:23:36 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48856 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J4h6L-00085c-IP; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:23:33 +0100 Message-ID: <47681025.60205@levkowetz.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:23:33 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] IDST draft name validation for -00 drafts References: <065501c840d8$124f7550$c6f0200a@cisco.com> <45EA024E-B939-4CB2-9F9D-592DD5F67E23@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <45EA024E-B939-4CB2-9F9D-592DD5F67E23@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Scan-Signature: e8a67952aa972b528dd04570d58ad8fe X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Re-posting this as the last post was PGP encrypted. Sorry 'bout that. ---- More good suggestions; I've forwarded these to the submission tool developers list, too. Henrik On 2007-12-17 22:19 Fred Baker said the following: > > > > On Dec 17, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Dan Wing wrote: >> >> (More desirable would be to validate that the LASTNAME (draft- >> >> LASTNAME-*) matches one of the author's last names, but this is >> >> difficult with non-US-ASCII last names, draft-manyfolks-*, and >> >> compound last names ("Mac Manas" could legitimately be either >> >> macmanas or mac-manus. Thus, validating there isn't a collision >> >> with existing working groups could be useful and easier to implement.) > > > > we have loosely followed the following convention for some time: > > > > draft-ietf---. working group draft > > draft----. personal submission > > to working group > > draft---. "other" > > > > Following that rubric, we today have 705 working group drafts in 121 > > working groups or BOF topics, 677 individual submissions to working > > groups or BOF topics, and 462 "other" drafts. > > > > One thing we might consider here is to in some way determine the > > intent of the poster. If it falls into either of the first two > > categories, and in the first category is on the list the WG chair > > authorized, it's kind of a done deal. If it is of the third category, > > it might be of value to ask the submitter who s/he would like to > > review it. It may be that the answer is "6man and v6ops", in which > > case leaving the WG name off but posting an ID-posting announcement > > to both lists would make sense. If the answer is a given WG, > > answering "please encode the name as draft---- > > ." would make sense. And if the answer really is > > "general", so be it, post the thing. > > > > Next question: what problem does that solve? > > > > For me as a WG chair, it is a convenient organizing principle: if the > > convention is followed, I know for sure which drafts are mine to > > worry about. I enforce the usage pretty mildly - if someone writes > > "I'd like to discuss draft-carpenter-shanti and draft-van-beijnum- > > modified-nat-pt in v6ops this week", I'm OK with that. Reason: well, > > maybe they weren't sure whether it belonged in v6ops, 6man, or > > something else. In the particular cases here, my charter precludes > > picking it up in v6ops, so the authors can be forgiven for not > > knowing where to direct their documents. But in general, I'd like to > > be able to go to the ID tracker, enter "v6ops", and get a summary of > > stuff on my plate. > > > > For me as a contributor to various activities, it doesn't solve any > > problem at all. _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Tue Dec 18 17:18:20 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4klT-0001p8-CN; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:18:15 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4klR-0001ov-Te for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:18:13 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4klR-0001om-JZ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:18:13 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4klR-00017Q-1u for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:18:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [216.145.54.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D541D0502; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:18:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <565C8E4B-69FD-4DD7-9791-E16804C8256C@mnot.net> From: Mark Nottingham To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <4767E42A.3010806@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Serving HTML from svn Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:18:07 +1100 References: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> <4767A808.7010909@gmx.de> <7D966CB8-FC37-45B0-AD65-55F3813B581E@mnot.net> <4767E42A.3010806@levkowetz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 31247fb3be228bb596db9127becad0bc Cc: Julian Reschke , "Roy T. Fielding" , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Nope; I'm good. Roy's commit fixed it; there was a little period where the headers were being returned in the body, but that got fixed (or fixed itself) shortly thereafter. Thanks, On 19/12/2007, at 2:15 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Mark, are you still seeing the wrong Content-type: ? > > When testing here, I get text/html, which is what I'd expect after > Roy's commit http://www.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/changeset/57 > (after your first message, but before Julian's below). > > (I'm seeing this now: > 1 HTTP/1.1 200 OK > 2 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:05:01 GMT > 3 Server: Apache/2.2.6 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.4 mod_python/3.3.1 > Python/2.4.4 mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 > 4 Last-Modified: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:07:35 GMT > 5 ETag: "61//draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/draft-ietf-httpbis-p1- > messaging-00-from-rfc2616-symrefs.diff.html" > 6 Accept-Ranges: bytes > 7 Content-Length: 1955998 > 8 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 > 9 Connection: Keep-Alive > 10 Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 > ) > > Could there be a caching proxy giving you the result immediately > below? > The timestamp indicates that it's from before Roy's commit, which > was at > 09:51:52 GMT ... > > > Regards, > > Henrik > > > On 2007-12-18 12:02 Mark Nottingham said the following: >> Heh. I'm getting this at the top of the p1 diff; >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:36:26 GMT Server: Apache/ >> 2.2.6 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.4.4 mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.4.4 mod_ssl/ >> 2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_perl/2.0.3 Perl/v5.8.8 Last-Modified: Tue, >> 18 >> Dec 2007 07:49:32 GMT ETag: "56//draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/draft-ietf- >> httpbis-p1-messaging-00-from-rfc2616-symrefs.diff.html" Accept- >> Ranges: >> bytes Content-Length: 1871144 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100 >> Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Wasn't getting this a moment ago; did something get messed up? >> >> >> On 18/12/2007, at 9:59 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> >>> Mark Nottingham wrote: >>>> How do we affect the media type of content served from SVN? >>>> See: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/httpbis/draft-ietf-httpbis/diffs/ >>>> (all of which are served as text/plain). >>> I guess by setting svn:mime-type; but it looks this was already done >>> (and the HTTP response is OK now as well). >>> >>> BR, Julian >> >> >> -- >> Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 19 07:02:31 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xd7-0003ey-LO; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:02:29 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xd6-0003d2-RF for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:02:28 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xd6-0003cq-Ge for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:02:28 -0500 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xd6-0005g0-63 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:02:28 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so5963859wah.25 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:02:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=cJnzoFhiojVW41QOSqqJ0aDFtr5CsVyvrr+3/S7ENV8=; b=P3aRvNhu0BSnj9kla/O58qp9QjJCnhUxG0Qk0bSMWs4kKbPrxAPQNlzSmW9LJ+rS84BvdJd7hnxiIazaUnGj3H7FRGcjT43RSkTjFC8fIUrWUGJdDUHS4TwquLssbytqoHJ9iwUvHoVjYY4TTfO6AwuF6uRDXn2aS3gZUDSMkdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NV+cLne+6Qt6Z9enH/qWtbLUm9AxZqRjTjiNBgIdpeCGeLF832URpSr0TttzNisfWYWv4Oosg3WAsmThCOcYmEmeuXHu0iZISfJgSL4qnithaM6rlfnI8SbHWsCLZfZGUKAo3fOqrJybajapDnWk6ixF2i89zD5mCgCNvPrm9Lk= Received: by 10.115.88.1 with SMTP id q1mr5344498wal.98.1198065738098; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.72.10 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:02:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:02:18 -0500 From: "George Jones" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c Cc: Joe Abley , Joel Jaeggli , Ron Bonica Subject: [Tools-discuss] Wiki for OPSEC WG ? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gmj@pobox.com List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Would it be possible to set up a WIKI for the OPSEC WG ? I have a number of ideas for drafts that I'd like to discuss/have people hack on, and I think a WIKI may be the best way to do it. I'd thought of just doing it on Wikipedia, but I'm not sure what the copyright issues would be. Can this be set up ? Thanks, ---George Jones WG Chairs, AD, chime in if you concur. _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 19 15:57:58 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J55zK-00082s-RO; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:57:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J55zJ-00082m-EG for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:57:57 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J55zJ-00082e-4D for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:57:57 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J55zG-0007Gh-LQ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:57:57 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44969 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J55z8-0008F9-KQ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: <476985CA.1010807@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:57:46 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gmj@pobox.com Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki for OPSEC WG ? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: gmj@pobox.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, jabley@ca.afilias.info, joelja@bogus.com, rbonica@juniper.net, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Cc: Joe Abley , Joel Jaeggli , tools-discuss@ietf.org, Ron Bonica X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Hi George, On 2007-12-19 13:02 George Jones said the following: > Would it be possible to set up a WIKI for the OPSEC WG ? > > I have a number of ideas for drafts that I'd like to discuss/have > people hack on, and I think > a WIKI may be the best way to do it. > > I'd thought of just doing it on Wikipedia, but I'm not sure what the > copyright issues would be. > > Can this be set up ? Absolutely. If Joe or Joel will drop me a note, I'll set it up. Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 19 17:01:12 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J56yT-0000hr-7C; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:01:09 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J56yR-0000Qr-E1 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:01:07 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J56yQ-0000KX-T3 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:01:06 -0500 Received: from [2001:698:9:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb] (helo=merlot.tools.ietf.org) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J56yQ-00012n-DX for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:01:06 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36242 helo=chardonnay.local) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J56yL-000719-6o; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:01:01 +0100 Message-ID: <4769949C.6080402@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:01:00 +0100 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Abley Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki for OPSEC WG ? References: <476985CA.1010807@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: jabley@ca.afilias.info, gmj@pobox.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, joelja@bogus.com, rbonica@juniper.net, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on merlot.tools.ietf.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Scan-Signature: 21c69d3cfc2dd19218717dbe1d974352 Cc: "gmj@pobox.com" , Joel Jaeggli , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" , Ron Bonica X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: ... > > Absolutely. If Joe or Joel will drop me a note, I'll set it up. Joel Jaeggli said: ... > consider it dropped. Joe Abley said: > I've been very quiet on this thread (unexpectedly and suddenly without > laptop, replacement at least 12 hours away, typing on phone, don't > ask) Ouch!! :-( > but I'm happy to confirm the request for an opsec wiki if that > helps move things along. Ok. Done! The wiki has been set up, and is available here: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/opsec/trac/ There are also links to the wiki and the issue tracker from the opsec wg status page: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/opsec/ There's also a SVN repository associated with the Trac environment; currently anybody who is logged in can add stuff to the wiki, issue tracker and SVN. The SVN is at: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/opsec/ The chairs have admin rights to the Track environment when logged in. Regards, Henrik _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 20 06:10:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5JHq-0008Gj-9U; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4frj-0003PM-3L for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:04:23 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4fri-0003PE-IV; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:04:22 -0500 Received: from nylon.softarmor.com ([66.135.38.164]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4frh-0004uX-3T; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:04:22 -0500 Received: from [206.176.144.210] (206-176-144-210.waymark.net [206.176.144.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by nylon.softarmor.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lBIH4IR5028724 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:04:20 -0600 Message-ID: <4767FD8D.8040501@softarmor.com> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:04:13 -0600 From: Dean Willis User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Sparks References: <7F442C1D-03B9-4324-AB30-0F9E1BD6F3EE@estacado.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 52e1467c2184c31006318542db5614d5 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:57 -0500 Cc: Working Group Chairs , Tools Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Fwd: Initial Version Approval Request for draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Robert Sparks wrote: > > > So, an anecdotal data point: > > I clicked on the link below and was surprised. Yes, the mail itself > detailed exactly what was going to happen, but somehow I had > morphed my expectations into being presented a page with a link to the > document being asked for approval (from which I would > check that it was appropriate and then hit approve). > > In this case, I would have hit approve anyhow (luckily). > > Would it be reasonable to ask for the link to goto a "Review this > information and then say OK" page? (As a bonus, that page would already > contain idnits output). > > It would also be ok for that to be a second link in the email if some > folks want to keep the one-click does it all feature of the current system. I find the same thing surprising every time I use the approval tool. The first time I ended up approving the draft nine times and then turning in a trouble ticket because it kept giving me an error message that in retrospect probably meant the draft had already been approved. I finally decided maybe my co-chair had already approved the draft. It took several drafts before I realized how the tool works. Ok, maybe I am kind of dense, but not THAT much below average. I hope. Simply visiting a link should be without side-effects. I'd much rather the "approve this draft" messages took me to a form where I could optionally read the draft and then click buttons for "accept" and "reject". -- Dean _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 20 06:10:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5JHq-0008Gy-Iy; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J569J-0004cF-U8 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:17 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J569J-0004c7-JT for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:17 -0500 Received: from nagasaki.bogus.com ([147.28.0.81]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J569J-0005Ww-7J for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:17 -0500 Received: from [192.103.16.81] ([192.103.16.81]) (authenticated bits=0) by nagasaki.bogus.com (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBJL8ETY098057; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:08:14 GMT (envelope-from joelja@bogus.com) Message-ID: <47698831.401@bogus.com> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:08:01 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Henrik Levkowetz Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki for OPSEC WG ? References: <476985CA.1010807@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: <476985CA.1010807@levkowetz.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.1/5182/Wed Dec 19 17:36:58 2007 on nagasaki.bogus.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7655788c23eb79e336f5f8ba8bce7906 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:56 -0500 Cc: gmj@pobox.com, Joe Abley , tools-discuss@ietf.org, Ron Bonica X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi George, > > On 2007-12-19 13:02 George Jones said the following: >> Would it be possible to set up a WIKI for the OPSEC WG ? >> >> I have a number of ideas for drafts that I'd like to discuss/have >> people hack on, and I think >> a WIKI may be the best way to do it. >> >> I'd thought of just doing it on Wikipedia, but I'm not sure what the >> copyright issues would be. >> >> Can this be set up ? > > Absolutely. If Joe or Joel will drop me a note, I'll set it up. consider it dropped. > > Henrik > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 20 06:10:04 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5JHq-0008GZ-3u; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Z76-0004Wt-U8 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:51:48 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Z76-0004Wj-KN for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:51:48 -0500 Received: from lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com ([208.113.200.5] helo=spaceymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4Z75-0000vL-7n for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:51:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.160] (ip72-211-200-45.oc.oc.cox.net [72.211.200.45]) by spaceymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40756EE394; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:51:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> References: <1D183A7C-7081-40A8-87C3-F50ABAA3AF94@mnot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <52C80C36-63E7-4242-AD64-C872994C8719@gbiv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Roy T. Fielding" Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:51:43 -0800 To: Mark Nottingham X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:56 -0500 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Serving HTML from svn X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Dec 18, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > How do we affect the media type of content served from SVN? > > See: http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/httpbis/draft-ietf-httpbis/ > diffs/ > > (all of which are served as text/plain). It is a property. svn pset svn:mime-type "text/html" *.html will do that now ....Roy _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 20 06:10:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5JHq-0008Ge-6a; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aIo-0007NW-Pr for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:07:58 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aIo-0007NL-Fl; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:07:58 -0500 Received: from a-sasl-quonix.sasl.smtp.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25] helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4aIo-0002Xx-3H; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:07:58 -0500 Received: from a-sasl-quonix (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B05FB8; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.110] (ppp121-44-184-163.lns5.mel6.internode.on.net [121.44.184.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144F35FB5; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:07:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Mark Nottingham To: Robert Sparks In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:07:07 +1100 References: <7F442C1D-03B9-4324-AB30-0F9E1BD6F3EE@estacado.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:57 -0500 Cc: Working Group Chairs , Tools Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: Initial Version Approval Request for draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Your concern is well-placed; a HTTP URI's dereference action (i.e., the default action when you 'click' it) is a GET, which is specified to be safe -- i.e., to not have any side effects. A form that POSTs something to signify such intent would be more appropriate. Cheers On 18/12/2007, at 9:03 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > > So, an anecdotal data point: > > I clicked on the link below and was surprised. Yes, the mail itself > detailed exactly what was going to happen, but somehow I had > morphed my expectations into being presented a page with a link to > the document being asked for approval (from which I would > check that it was appropriate and then hit approve). > > In this case, I would have hit approve anyhow (luckily). > > Would it be reasonable to ask for the link to goto a "Review this > information and then say OK" page? (As a bonus, that page would > already > contain idnits output). > > It would also be ok for that to be a second link in the email if > some folks want to keep the one-click does it all feature of the > current system. > > RjS > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool >> Date: December 10, 2007 10:48:18 PM CST >> To: geopriv-chairs@tools.ietf.org >> Subject: Initial Version Approval Request for draft-ietf-geopriv- >> lis-discovery >> >> Martin Thomson (martin.thomson@andrew.com) has requested approval >> to post the initial version of draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery. >> Please click the link below to approve this document. >> >> Once the link is clicked, you will be brought to a Web site that will >> ask for login information. (You can use the same user name and >> password >> that you use for other IETF WG tools.) >> Upon a successful login, the document will immediately be approved, >> and you will see a notification message. >> >> If the document has already been approved by the other chair, then >> the Web site will display an appropriate indication. >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_init_rev_approval.cgi?command=record_approval&filename=draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery >> >> The IETF Secretariat. > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 20 06:10:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5JHq-0008Gt-Fl; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5675-0003Jk-Cg for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:05:59 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5674-0003JX-FT for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:05:58 -0500 Received: from monster.hopcount.ca ([199.212.90.4]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5674-0005Ql-43 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:05:58 -0500 Received: from [64.235.108.48] (helo=[192.168.182.4]) by monster.hopcount.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1J566l-000Kx5-34; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:05:39 +0000 References: <476985CA.1010807@levkowetz.com> Message-Id: From: Joe Abley To: Henrik Levkowetz In-Reply-To: <476985CA.1010807@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (3A109a) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 3A109a) Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Wiki for OPSEC WG ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:05:29 -0500 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 2409bba43e9c8d580670fda8b695204a X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:57 -0500 Cc: "gmj@pobox.com" , Joel Jaeggli , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" , Ron Bonica X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I've been very quiet on this thread (unexpectedly and suddenly without laptop, replacement at least 12 hours away, typing on phone, don't ask) but I'm happy to confirm the request for an opsec wiki if that helps move things along. On 19-Dec-07, at 15:57, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi George, > > On 2007-12-19 13:02 George Jones said the following: >> Would it be possible to set up a WIKI for the OPSEC WG ? >> >> I have a number of ideas for drafts that I'd like to discuss/have >> people hack on, and I think >> a WIKI may be the best way to do it. >> >> I'd thought of just doing it on Wikipedia, but I'm not sure what the >> copyright issues would be. >> >> Can this be set up ? > > Absolutely. If Joe or Joel will drop me a note, I'll set it up. > > > Henrik > > _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 20 06:10:09 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5JHq-0008Go-Cg; Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:58 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xXi-0007wy-4o for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:56:54 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xXh-0007vd-QK for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:56:53 -0500 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J4xXg-00029l-GC for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:56:53 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k40so5960220wah.25 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:56:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=cJnzoFhiojVW41QOSqqJ0aDFtr5CsVyvrr+3/S7ENV8=; b=wOkI2C/mJeGRt9WHMeyyI9VvlT146Uaawe5/6kilydZVYSR5oSuSOpPSqn+SrRUSdqX31wjUft6Cxy33iyEFP7jVHa1I+xXJ75+4ZlSiWhaW0twF4zl6v3xq/xLZ7zPguZE/LJmV4potUlDsKYJa57V6TpII7ZIuBsDI8LLA+hI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=awFz3oIjKxjKg37wkqUnHGrvnzDTjs9ll32LAiRhhCeJNPWdH7KdmGMIzJcj+/9IWOorOFa8rE+qEoD8vh1j9ybFjnydMAW1YZ7O7+YMngKtLXnaN3LLzEdMrMM0887bnfJOwYV3Y1NIXoXmuyWTEwS2GTfDvG6Blg3tkj1bCKM= Received: by 10.114.152.17 with SMTP id z17mr5177549wad.128.1198065411654; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.72.10 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:56:51 -0500 From: "George Jones" To: tools-discuss@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08170828343bcf1325e4a0fb4584481c X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:09:57 -0500 Cc: joelja@bogus.com, Joe Abley , Ron Bonica Subject: [Tools-discuss] WG Wiki ? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gmj@pobox.com List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Would it be possible to set up a WIKI for the OPSEC WG ? I have a number of ideas for drafts that I'd like to discuss/have people hack on, and I think a WIKI may be the best way to do it. I'd thought of just doing it on Wikipedia, but I'm not sure what the copyright issues would be. Can this be set up ? Thanks, ---George Jones WG Chairs, AD, chime in if you concur. _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 21 16:32:22 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pTi-0000OK-Ne; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:32:22 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pTh-0000O4-MO for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:32:21 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pTh-0000Nv-Al for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:32:21 -0500 Received: from ns3.neustar.com ([156.154.24.138]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pTh-0006et-47 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:32:21 -0500 Received: from [156.154.4.140] (unknown [156.154.4.140]) by ns3.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B27175C3; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:31:50 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:31:50 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, xml2rfc list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Cc: Subject: [Tools-discuss] pushing tables hard in xml2rfc X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org just fyi/fwiw, I pushed 's kinda hard in this paper.. http://identitymeme.org/doc/draft-hodges-saml-openid-compare-05.html ..and am not unhappy with the results in .html output (I haven't looked at the .txt output for a while for this paper). Anyway, there's figures inside of texttables, and it works. Pretty cool. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 21 16:36:14 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pXS-00033J-BY; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:36:14 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pXQ-000339-N6 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:36:12 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pXQ-000331-Co for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:36:12 -0500 Received: from ns4.neustar.com ([156.154.24.139]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5pXQ-0006pN-6z for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:36:12 -0500 Received: from [156.154.4.140] (unknown [156.154.4.140]) by ns4.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2D62AC93; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:36:11 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <476C31CB.6030804@neustar.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:36:11 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pushing tables hard in xml2rfc References: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 01485d64dfa90b45a74269b3ca9d5574 Cc: X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org oh, yeah, and I made extensive use of both within and without the tables. =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 21 18:33:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5rMp-0003mB-72; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:33:23 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5rMn-0003du-6Q for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:33:21 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5rMm-0003az-OH for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:33:20 -0500 Received: from ns3.neustar.com ([156.154.24.138]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5rMl-0005jJ-RT for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:33:20 -0500 Received: from [156.154.4.140] (unknown [156.154.4.140]) by ns3.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5A175C3; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 23:32:48 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <476C4D21.7010206@neustar.biz> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:32:49 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pushing tables hard in xml2rfc References: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 1094b1c84fa6e846d476f39271f5074f Cc: X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org I got asked about what my xml source looks like. Here's relevant to the terminlogy section and figures-in-tables (use fixed pitch font)..
In this document, the term deployer refers to one who installs (and configures) one or more implementations, of one or more of the protocols or profiles discussed herein, onto systems for use by some group of users. Also, the deployer role is considered distinct from the implementor role. A deployment is the operating installation of implementations, of one or more of the protocols or profiles discussed herein. Deployments are created by deployers. A shorthand OpenID term describing a "key and value" pair, or, more generally, the overall notion of conveying information as sets of key-value pairs. This term is used in both senses in . Note: often, this "key-value" notion is also referred to as "name-value" or "name-value pairs". Also, in the LDAP/X.500 world(s), similar constructs are referred to as "attribute value assertions" (AVAs).
: , below, illustrates web browser SSO where no "callbacks" from the RP to the OP/IDP are employed. As can be seen from and therein, the flows for both OpenID authentication and SAML web browser SSO Profile are the same for this variation where the RP has already been introduced to the OP/IDP. In the OpenID case, this means that RP discovered (if necessary) and formed an association with the OP/IDP prior to beginning the flow in . In SAML it means that the RP discovered the IDP before the flow (via some unspecified means, though possibly using the OpenID initiation and discovery mechanism ), or had been configured with the information (this is a subtle-but-key point in that SAML per se is not wedded to particular initiation and discovery mechanisms as discussed in : , above, and : , below). OpenID SAML
| | (HTTP GET or POST) | | | | | | | | | | | | 2. OP/IDP authenticates user | | (methods vary, realization is out of scope) | |<============================================>| |(Step 2 transparent to user if openid.mode is | | checkid_immediate) | | | | | | | | | | | | 3. Authentication Resp| | +<- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -| . | (HTTP redirect resp) | | . | | | +------------------------>| | | (HTTP GET or POST) | | | | | | | | | 4. User is signed-on | | | or some form of | | | error msg is displayed| | |<----------------------| | | | | ]]>
msg | | +<- - - - - - - - - - - - | | . | (redirect to IDP) | | . | | | +-------------------------+--------------------->| | (HTTP GET OR POST) | | | | | | | | | | | | 2. Identity Provider authenticates user | | (methods vary, realization is out of scope) | |<============================================>| |(this step transparent to user if IsPassive=T)| | | | | | | | 3. message | | +<- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -| . | (redirect to SP) | | . | | | +------------------------>| | | (HTTP GET OR POST) | | | | | | | | | 4. user is signed-on | | | or some form of | | | error msg is returned | | |<----------------------| | | | | ]]>
Topic OpenID SAML Overall message formats: OpenID Authentication protocol messages are comprised of sets of key-value pairs, e.g this figure from section 4...
...which are encoded into HTTP messages, in varying fashions dependent upon whether the underlying HTTP message is an HTTP request or response, and also whether (if it is a request) the HTTP method being employed is GET or POST. These variations are delineated in by the notions of "Data Formats" (section 4) and "Communication Types" (section 5). Abstract SAML Messages are defined in , are expressed in XML , and are structured according to message definitions expressed in XML Schema . This is regardless of the particular underlying protocol messages they are ultimately bound to. SAML assertions and protocol messages are comprised of many various "parameters" — essentially corresponding to the OpenID notion of keys — and are configurable (i.e. various parameters are optional), thus explicitly extensible. --- end _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 21 19:59:25 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5si2-0002VF-NC; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:59:22 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5si1-0002V8-KS for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:59:21 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5si1-0002V0-9l for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:59:21 -0500 Received: from lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com ([208.113.200.5] helo=spaceymail-a4.g.dreamhost.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5si1-0000Ep-05 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:59:21 -0500 Received: from [10.2.8.60] (wsip-70-183-62-251.oc.oc.cox.net [70.183.62.251]) by spaceymail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0EA161967; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:59:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <58A2F622-D9CF-46B8-82A6-ECCA0825C236@mnot.net> References: <58A2F622-D9CF-46B8-82A6-ECCA0825C236@mnot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2D69F4CE-FED6-4FA7-B788-7BC8125C80E9@gbiv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Roy T. Fielding" Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:59:19 -0800 To: Mark Nottingham X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 856eb5f76e7a34990d1d457d8e8e5b7f Cc: Yves Lafon , "Julian F. F. Reschke" , Tools Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: trac problem -- milestones X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On Dec 20, 2007, at 11:30 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > I'm populating our issues list with milestones, and created ones > for "00", "01", and "02". > > I can edit "01" and "02 fine, but when I go to edit "00" at www3.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpbis/trac/admin/ticket/milestones/00>, > Trac acts as if I don't have any milestones at all, giving me this > page: [hmm, I think this didn't make it to the list because of the image] I've seen several examples in the tickets and reports where a value of "00" is being interpreted as empty or "false". We could work around that by using "draft00" (or "d00"). ....Roy _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 21 20:39:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tL4-0004BK-F2; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:39:42 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tL2-0004BE-Uz for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:39:40 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tL2-0004B6-It for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:39:40 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tL2-00012j-3I for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:39:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [216.145.54.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CE2D05A8; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:39:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2F9A3B16-747A-44F9-AD62-9EC593EA3740@mnot.net> From: Mark Nottingham To: "Roy T. Fielding" In-Reply-To: <2D69F4CE-FED6-4FA7-B788-7BC8125C80E9@gbiv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:39:34 +1100 References: <58A2F622-D9CF-46B8-82A6-ECCA0825C236@mnot.net> <2D69F4CE-FED6-4FA7-B788-7BC8125C80E9@gbiv.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Cc: Yves Lafon , "Julian F. F. Reschke" , Tools Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: trac problem -- milestones X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org On 22/12/2007, at 11:59 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > I've seen several examples in the tickets and reports where a > value of "00" is being interpreted as empty or "false". We > could work around that by using "draft00" (or "d00"). Yeah, that crossed my mind, but I didn't test it yet, because it would indicate some *really* bad programming practices... Tested... *sigh* yes, that was the problem. I'm using 'd00' in both versions an milestones; reverting to '01' etc. thereafter. -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Fri Dec 21 21:20:39 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tyd-0005ma-W9; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:20:35 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tyc-0005mU-P0 for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tyc-0005mL-Eh for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net ([216.86.168.179]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J5tyc-00026a-4y for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [216.145.54.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E934D05A3; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:20:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7E384CDB-296D-486A-B0CC-1F7932F23B9B@mnot.net> From: Mark Nottingham To: Roy T. Fielding In-Reply-To: <2D69F4CE-FED6-4FA7-B788-7BC8125C80E9@gbiv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:20:29 +1100 References: <58A2F622-D9CF-46B8-82A6-ECCA0825C236@mnot.net> <2D69F4CE-FED6-4FA7-B788-7BC8125C80E9@gbiv.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Cc: Yves Lafon , "Julian F. F. Reschke" , Tools Subject: [Tools-discuss] Re: trac problem -- milestones X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6545 On 22/12/2007, at 11:59 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Dec 20, 2007, at 11:30 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> I'm populating our issues list with milestones, and created ones >> for "00", "01", and "02". >> >> I can edit "01" and "02 fine, but when I go to edit "00" at > >, Trac acts as if I don't have any milestones at all, giving me >> this page: > > [hmm, I think this didn't make it to the list because of the image] > > I've seen several examples in the tickets and reports where a > value of "00" is being interpreted as empty or "false". We > could work around that by using "draft00" (or "d00"). > > ....Roy > -- Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Sat Dec 22 05:48:19 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J61tr-0005JW-9g; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:48:11 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J61tp-0005EA-IL for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:48:09 -0500 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J61tp-0005E2-8Q for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:48:09 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J61tn-0003Rv-MU for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Sat, 22 Dec 2007 05:48:09 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Dec 2007 10:48:06 -0000 Received: from p508F8337.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.131.55] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 22 Dec 2007 11:48:06 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+zvN5//X6zFBrxpCO8PkrIgZsgRyWcLNJw1Ay8FK p3/xTBlnBpYVni Message-ID: <476CEB62.9020209@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:48:02 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Re: [Tools-discuss] pushing tables hard in xml2rfc References: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> <476C4D21.7010206@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <476C4D21.7010206@neustar.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 01485d64dfa90b45a74269b3ca9d5574 Cc: xml2rfc list , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org ...I'll have to say you're pushing them too hard, at least if you're concerned about the ability to produce TXT from it, or to run it trhough a different implementation :-). _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Wed Dec 26 17:16:21 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7eXy-00030p-9z; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:16:18 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J7eXw-00030C-HS for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:16:16 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7eXv-0002zs-Sp for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:16:15 -0500 Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7eXv-00084Y-Gy for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:16:15 -0500 Received: from [10.20.30.108] (dsl-63-249-108-169.cruzio.com [63.249.108.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id lBQMGDTD024920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:16:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:13:07 -0800 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7bac9cb154eb5790ae3b2913587a40de Subject: [Tools-discuss] Charter diffs X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Greetings again. The diff'ed versions of Internet Drafts are very useful. Having diff'ed versions of WG charters would also be useful, particularly because the IESG announcements don't even try to say what the differences are between the current and previous version of a charter. This would be most useful for current charters moving forwards, although a historic line of diffs for a WG might be useful to some IETF archaeologists. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 27 01:12:57 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7lzD-0001lh-HL; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:12:55 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J7lzB-0001la-KA for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:12:53 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7lzB-0001kj-8y for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:12:53 -0500 Received: from ns3.neustar.com ([156.154.24.138]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7lzA-0000Tq-VF for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:12:53 -0500 Received: from [156.154.4.228] (unknown [156.154.4.228]) by ns3.neustar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E161175A4; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:12:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47734263.6040008@neustar.biz> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:12:51 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xml2rfc list Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Re: [Tools-discuss] pushing tables hard in xml2rfc References: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> <476C4D21.7010206@neustar.biz> <476CEB62.9020209@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <476CEB62.9020209@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Julian Reschke wrote: > ...I'll have to say you're pushing them too hard, no such thing given the code didn't core-dump and produces reasonable, useful output. > at least if you're > concerned about the ability to produce TXT from it, not for this paper. > or to run it trhough > a different implementation :-). i'm not aware of any other xml2rfc impl, are you? =JeffH _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Thu Dec 27 04:11:53 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7omJ-0000oF-Tb; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:11:47 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J7omI-0000ng-JW for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:11:46 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7omI-0000nM-6z for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:11:46 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J7omH-0004S0-72 for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:11:45 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Dec 2007 09:11:43 -0000 Received: from p508F8F21.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.143.33] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 27 Dec 2007 10:11:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+8ZfUzur+8UWtLcFgJsbG+Ofr932wwWWiWJGhxEq vjVZjDKmJQZDLM Message-ID: <47736C4E.6090504@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:11:42 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =JeffH Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Re: [Tools-discuss] pushing tables hard in xml2rfc References: <476C30C6.8000701@neustar.biz> <476C4D21.7010206@neustar.biz> <476CEB62.9020209@gmx.de> <47734263.6040008@neustar.biz> In-Reply-To: <47734263.6040008@neustar.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 Cc: xml2rfc list , tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org =JeffH wrote: > i'm not aware of any other xml2rfc impl, are you? There's one from Bill Fenner, and there's also . BR, Julian _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss From tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Mon Dec 31 20:03:07 2007 Return-path: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9VX7-0007OQ-VQ; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:03:05 -0500 Received: from tools-discuss by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J9VX7-0007Kt-AI for tools-discuss-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:03:05 -0500 Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9VX5-0007HA-TJ for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:03:04 -0500 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.72] helo=sj-iport-3.cisco.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J9VX5-0002Kx-Ir for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:03:03 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,229,1196668800"; d="scan'208";a="16161525" Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Dec 2007 17:03:02 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m01132JT005844; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:03:02 -0800 Received: from [192.168.4.177] (sjc-fluffy-vpn1.cisco.com [10.25.236.82]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with SMTP id m0112ojD017323; Tue, 1 Jan 2008 01:02:51 GMT In-Reply-To: References: Impp: xmpp:cullenfluffyjennings@jabber.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <64D418B2-D395-4341-B412-FA89B742EC02@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Cullen Jennings Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Charter diffs Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:01:59 -0800 To: Paul Hoffman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=1088; t=1199149382; x=1200013382; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim1004; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; z=From:=20Cullen=20Jennings=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[Tools-discuss]=20Charter=20diffs |Sender:=20; bh=0fnKNYaiNHDXrMPeT14+1G/orlH3E8fnpuIxWxO+MrE=; b=XCighZdzRGW+QDrWqJ0U9qVlbiEyBqB/KoE4fiscs1XAgpMhiqBy84SP13 Hif8nygXHAcgyvipuUjuungMm7V3EumQwsGQLBaDz+C1Z8UeSDmrr6rlXTAI WHXGlBgoKLUCqxTxTXdstu0Xp3GJe1/k0jep8EzAvvtYrMD3OBtzc=; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=fluffy@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tools-discuss-bounces@ietf.org Paul this is one of my pet peeves and I totally agree. When approving charters, it is often hard to diff them due to formatting and often one being in html and the other in ascii. At the last code sprint, some work was done on a tool for managing charters (in django). It's needs more work but at least something was started. On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings again. The diff'ed versions of Internet Drafts are very > useful. Having diff'ed versions of WG charters would also be > useful, particularly because the IESG announcements don't even try > to say what the differences are between the current and previous > version of a charter. This would be most useful for current > charters moving forwards, although a historic line of diffs for a > WG might be useful to some IETF archaeologists. > > --Paul Hoffman, Director > --VPN Consortium > > > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss _______________________________________________ Tools-discuss mailing list Tools-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss