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Just as a reminder, if any of you are thinking of proposing new IETF =
work: the deadline for BOF proposals for the next meeting is January =
31st. But if you have something in mind, please talk to your ADs as soon =
as possible. More information at =
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Hi,

this is a call for presentations for the TSVAREA meeting in Prague. =
We're sending this early, so we can request an agenda slot of suitable =
length.

Please send agenda requests for TSVAREA to tsv-ads@tools.ietf.org, =
including:

	title/topic
	presenter
	requested time

Reminder: The purpose of the TSVAREA meeting is to inform about and =
discuss important issues, developments and work within the transport =
area or outside work that impacts the transport area. In contrast to =
TSVWG, TSVAREA does not produce any documents. TSVAREA can include =
tutorial-style talks on transport topics, maybe based on related IRTF or =
other research work. Another possibility is "elevator pitch" talks, =
where interested people can get quick community feedback on ideas for =
new work.

Lars

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I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorate's ong=
oing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were written prima=
rily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the document's aut=
hors for their information and to allow them to address any issues raised. =
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This draft is ready for publication as a BCP RFC.


A few small comments which I don't think should be blocking are:

1 - on page 11, in section 6, "near-infinite" is a bit of an exaggeration

2 - on page 16, there's a typo: "MUST accompanied" should be "MUST be accom=
panied"

3 - on page 17, it may be a good idea to be clear whether the Assignee can =
be an individual (not just an organization)

4 - on page 17, Contact is defined as a person, but using the IESG as the C=
ontact makes it a group (not a "person"); it might be good to clarify Conta=
ct as a person or group of people

5 - on page 17, in the Reference definition, it may be good to qualify the =
description of broadcast/multicast/anycast use by the protocol as being IP-=
layer broadcast/multicast/anycast to disambiguate from possible application=
-layer mechanisms for these that might be used

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Wes Eddy
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Hi,

I'm updating the working copy in response to the LC reviews. See below =
for how I'm addressing things.

On 2011-1-19, at 22:54, Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP] =
wrote:
> A few small comments which I don't think should be blocking are:
>=20
> 1 - on page 11, in section 6, "near-infinite" is a bit of an =
exaggeration

Changed to "very many".

> 2 - on page 16, there's a typo: "MUST accompanied" should be "MUST be =
accompanied"

Was already fixed in our working copy.

> 3 - on page 17, it may be a good idea to be clear whether the Assignee =
can be an individual (not just an organization)

Fixed. (Alexey had commented on that, too.)

> 4 - on page 17, Contact is defined as a person, but using the IESG as =
the Contact makes it a group (not a "person"); it might be good to =
clarify Contact as a person or group of people

I actually think we want the contact to be *one* person. I propose to =
fix this by making the IETF Chair the contact person for IETF =
registrations assigned to the IESG.

> 5 - on page 17, in the Reference definition, it may be good to qualify =
the description of broadcast/multicast/anycast use by the protocol as =
being IP-layer broadcast/multicast/anycast to disambiguate from possible =
application-layer mechanisms for these that might be used

Fixed.

Thanks,
Lars=

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For those in the area who plan for bar-BOFs in Prague or at some other
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	Title           : Considerations for Having a Successful "Bar
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	Date            : 2011-01-26

New work is typically brought to the IETF by a group of interested
individuals.  IETF meetings are a convenient place for such groups to
hold informal get-togethers to discuss and develop their ideas.  Such
side meetings, which are not reflected in the IETF meeting agenda and
have no official status, are often half jokingly referred to as "bar
BOF" sessions, to acknowledge that some of them may eventually lead to
a
proposal for an official IETF BOF ("birds of a feather" session) on a
given topic.

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discuss and develop ideas for new IETF work.  It encourages the
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Welcome aboard, Wes!

Begin forwarded message:

> From: NomCom Chair <nomcom-chair@ietf.org>
> Date: January 31, 2011 20:11:22 GMT+02:00
> To: IETF Announcement list <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
> Subject: NomCom 2010-2011: IESG Appointments 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> The 2010-2011 IETF Nominating committee is pleased to announce the 
> selection of the IESG members whose two year terms start in March 2011.
> 
> The following have been selected to serve as ADs by the nominating 
> committee for the open IESG positions and confirmed by the IAB in their 
> role as confirming body: 
> 
> GEN/IETF Chair: Russ Housley 
> Applications: Pete Resnick 
> Internet: Ralph Droms 
> Operations and Management: Ron Bonica 
> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure: Robert Sparks 
> Routing: Adrian Farrel 
> Security: Stephen Farrell 
> Transport: Wesley Eddy 
> 
> Our thanks to the incumbents who are not returning for their outstanding
> service, to the many qualified members of the community who offered to 
> serve, to the community for their assistance in this process, and to the 
> named individuals above for agreeing to serve the community on the IESG. 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> 
> Thomas Walsh 
> nomcom-chair@ietf.org 
> twalsh@juniper.net 
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