From nichols@pollere.com Tue Jul 10 06:55:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B103621F85D8; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.372 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.372 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_Q1=0.227] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gt7oF3vS+IBS; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.71]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC4721F85D3; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c-24-4-217-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([24.4.217.203] helo=kmn.local) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Soauf-0009SP-OU; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:55:37 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 24.4.217.203 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+lLcqAn31RWRq89sMHOSKFEEGkQ0GTTAI= Message-ID: <4FFC345B.402@pollere.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:55:39 -0700 From: Kathleen Nichols User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tsvwg@ietf.org, tsv-area@ietf.org Subject: new draft on CoDel AQM X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: tsv-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Transport and Services Area Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:55:10 -0000 I've uploaded a new draft on the CoDel AQM, available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel/ (the pdf should be formatted better). We are expecting to discuss this in a TSVAREA slot dealing with bufferbloat. Comments are welcome. Kathie Nichols From wes@mti-systems.com Thu Jul 19 19:16:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D08811E80CE for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:16:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.130, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DLMT0axPRD3k for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (omr6.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7D511E80DC for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 19:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cm-omr3 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6K2HUN6022786 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:17:45 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr3 smtp.user=wes@mti-systems.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) X-Authenticated-UID: wes@mti-systems.com Received: from [69.81.143.209] ([69.81.143.209:52777] helo=[192.168.1.105]) by cm-omr3 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id E8/C2-04911-0BFB8005; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:17:20 -0400 Message-ID: <5008BFA4.6000206@mti-systems.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:17:08 -0400 From: Wesley Eddy Organization: MTI Systems User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tsv-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: IETF84/Vancouver planning References: <4FBBB6D3.9010402@mti-systems.com> In-Reply-To: <4FBBB6D3.9010402@mti-systems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: tsv-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Transport and Services Area Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:16:58 -0000 TSVAREA is currently on the agenda for Monday 7/30, in the 1540-1710 timeslot. The current agenda (still subject to some change) is: * Agenda bashing * Bufferbloat Topics: * Controlled Delay -- Van Jacobson (35 minutes) http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel/ http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2209336 * Harnessing the power of ECN -- Murari Sridharan (20 minutes) * LEDBAT and Real-Time Media -- Randell Jesup (15 minutes) * Other Topics: * Self-forming P2P -- Johan Pouwelse (15 minutes) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pouwelse-censorfree-scenarios/ -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems From david.black@emc.com Fri Jul 20 08:31:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F65B21F8642 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:31:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q8QMOj+G6H0J for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:31:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE8321F85E3 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com ([10.254.111.54]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6KFVtwX023603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:31:55 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhubhoprd04.lss.emc.com [10.254.222.226]) by hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:31:30 -0400 Received: from mxhub09.corp.emc.com ([10.254.92.104]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q6KFVUsq003041; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:31:30 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.189]) by mxhub09.corp.emc.com ([10.254.92.104]) with mapi; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:31:30 -0400 From: To: , Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:31:26 -0400 Subject: RE: IETF84/Vancouver planning Thread-Topic: IETF84/Vancouver planning Thread-Index: Ac1mHeSGHjFLyLA3T3uEYTiolewFEgAbgLRg Message-ID: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE71208DD8D5E@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <4FBBB6D3.9010402@mti-systems.com> <5008BFA4.6000206@mti-systems.com> In-Reply-To: <5008BFA4.6000206@mti-systems.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 X-BeenThere: tsv-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Transport and Services Area Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:31:01 -0000 Wes, Could we provide a TSVAREA opportunity for at least brief introductions of = the following two drafts: - Legacy (TDM POTS) IP Pseudowire Congestion Considerations draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01 [I'm a co-author of this one] - Flow-associated Middlebox State Migration Framework draft-gu-statemigration-framework-01 The primary purposes would be awareness of the topics and finding Transport= people interested in the drafts. Thanks, --David > -----Original Message----- > From: tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsv-area-bounces@ietf.org] On Beh= alf > Of Wesley Eddy > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 10:17 PM > To: tsv-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: IETF84/Vancouver planning >=20 > TSVAREA is currently on the agenda for Monday 7/30, in the 1540-1710 > timeslot. The current agenda (still subject to some change) is: >=20 >=20 > * Agenda bashing >=20 > * Bufferbloat Topics: >=20 > * Controlled Delay -- Van Jacobson (35 minutes) > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nichols-tsvwg-codel/ > http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3D2209336 >=20 > * Harnessing the power of ECN -- Murari Sridharan (20 minutes) >=20 > * LEDBAT and Real-Time Media -- Randell Jesup (15 minutes) >=20 > * Other Topics: >=20 > * Self-forming P2P -- Johan Pouwelse (15 minutes) > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pouwelse-censorfree-scenarios/ >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Wes Eddy > MTI Systems From Martin.Stiemerling@neclab.eu Tue Jul 24 01:14:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD0321F84D6 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d4kk2+NFXOOo for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D97421F8653 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D087101923 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:18:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OXiJBGp+CLFv for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:18:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from METHONE.office.hd (methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0768101918 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:18:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.190] (10.1.1.190) by skoll.office.hd (192.168.125.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:14:29 +0200 Message-ID: <500E5965.8090800@neclab.eu> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:14:29 +0200 From: Martin Stiemerling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: TSV AD "office hours" @IETF84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.1.1.190] X-BeenThere: tsv-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Transport and Services Area Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:14:38 -0000 Hi there, We'll be having TSV AD "office hours" on Thursday 8/2 from 1510-1710 in the IESG room (*), in case there are things that you need to discuss with us in person and aren't able to pin us down any other time. (*) We do not yet know the room number of the IESG room. The room will be announced soon. Thanks, Martin From Martin.Stiemerling@neclab.eu Sat Jul 28 16:46:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9085D21F86AD for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:46:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.519 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.080, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uB21VRGapDnw for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A95321F8602 for ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97559101990 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:51:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B8tfORiZ0bPM for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:51:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E22710198C for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:51:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.7.0.105] (10.7.0.105) by skoll.office.hd (192.168.125.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:46:41 +0200 Message-ID: <501479CB.8090806@neclab.eu> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:46:19 +0200 From: Martin Stiemerling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subject: Re: TSV AD "office hours" @IETF84 References: <500E5965.8090800@neclab.eu> In-Reply-To: <500E5965.8090800@neclab.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.7.0.105] X-BeenThere: tsv-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Transport and Services Area Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:46:50 -0000 Hi, The room for the office hours is IESG Breakout Room which is in the room **Lord Byron** Martin On 07/24/2012 10:14 AM, Martin Stiemerling wrote: > Hi there, > > We'll be having TSV AD "office hours" on Thursday 8/2 from > 1510-1710 in the IESG room (*), in case there are things that you > need to discuss with us in person and aren't able to pin us > down any other time. > > (*) We do not yet know the room number of the IESG room. The room will > be announced soon. > > Thanks, > > Martin -- martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu NEC Laboratories Europe - Network Research Division NEC Europe Limited Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London W3 6BL Registered in England 283 From ietf@meetecho.com Mon Jul 30 13:47:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tsv-area@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4177C11E81A3 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.619 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.619 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UUhrRLNcdsYc for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtplq01.aruba.it (smtplqs-out19.aruba.it [62.149.158.59]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 47AAA11E8155 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10358 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jul 2012 20:47:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp5.aruba.it) (62.149.158.225) by smtplq01.aruba.it with SMTP; 30 Jul 2012 20:47:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 14006 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jul 2012 20:47:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?130.129.21.177?) (alex@meetecho.com@130.129.21.177) by smtp5.ad.aruba.it with ESMTPA; 30 Jul 2012 20:47:38 -0000 Message-ID: <5016F2D4.20907@meetecho.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:47:16 +0200 From: Meetecho IETF support User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tsv-area@ietf.org Subject: Meetecho support for TSVAREA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: smtplq01.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-BeenThere: tsv-area@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Transport and Services Area Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:47:42 -0000 Hi all, a virtual room has been reserved on the Meetecho system for today's TSV-AREA meeting session. Access to the on-line session (including audio and video streams) will be available at: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf84/tsvarea The Meetecho session automatically logs you into the standard IETF jabber room. So, from there, you can have an integrated experience involving all media and allowing you to interact with the room. Remote participants might also send their own voice to the room, if they want to, by either calling a landline phone number, or using our embedded VoIP applet (in this last case they are *strongly* advised to use a headset). A tutorial of interactivity features of the tool can be found at: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf84 Cheers, the Meetecho team -- Meetecho s.r.l. Web Conferencing and Collaboration Tools www.meetecho.com