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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Uniform Resource Names Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : URN Namespace Definition Mechanisms
        Author(s)       : L. Daigle, D. van Gulik, R. Iannella, P. Faltstrom
        Filename        : draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt
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Howdy,

The URN WG has reviewed this document, and considers it completed.
We would therefore like to ask the IESG to publish it as a BCP RFC,
to replace/obsolete RFC2611 for URN NID definition process.

There is one outstanding editorial issue.  The URL for the IANA URN
namespace registry uses the "isi.edu" domain.  I know that IANA
is trying to move everything to iana.org, but that doesn't
work at the moment.  I sent a message to IANA 2 weeks ago asking
what they'd like me to put in there, but haven't had a response.
I think we're better off not delaying this any furhter, and if
IANA responds in the next while, we can fix that with a note to the
RFC-editor, in the worst case.

Thanks,
Leslie.

Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Uniform Resource Names Working Group of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : URN Namespace Definition Mechanisms
>         Author(s)       : L. Daigle, D. van Gulik, R. Iannella, P. Faltstrom
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt
>         Pages           : 18
>         Date            : 08-May-01
>
> The URN WG has defined a syntax for Uniform Resource Names (URNs)
> [RFC2141], as well as some proposed mechanisms for their resolution
> and use in Internet applications ([RFCXXXX], [RFCYYYY]).  The whole
> rests on the concept of individual 'namespaces' within the URN
> structure.  Apart from  proof-of-concept namespaces, the use of
> existing identifiers in URNs has been discussed ([RFC2288]), and this
> document lays out general definitions of and mechanisms for
> establishing URN 'namespaces'.
> This document obsoletes RFC2611.
> Discussion of this document should be directed to urn-ietf@ietf.org
>
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username
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>
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> http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
>
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>
> Send a message to:
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>
> NOTE:   The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in
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>         feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE"
>         command.  To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or
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>
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> Internet-Draft.

--

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   -- ThinkingCat

Leslie Daigle
leslie@thinkingcat.com
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From owner-urn-ietf@LISTS.NETSOL.COM  Wed May  9 18:06:19 2001
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FYI -- this note was addressed to our area directors, and cc'ed
to the working group.  For those who don't know/forgot, the mailing
list reflector strips off all other addresses and makes the mailing
list the sole recipient.  Which is helpful at keeping addressee
lists down, but sometimes makes the context inscrutable.

Leslie.

Leslie Daigle wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> The URN WG has reviewed this document, and considers it completed.
> We would therefore like to ask the IESG to publish it as a BCP RFC,
> to replace/obsolete RFC2611 for URN NID definition process.
>
> There is one outstanding editorial issue.  The URL for the IANA URN
> namespace registry uses the "isi.edu" domain.  I know that IANA
> is trying to move everything to iana.org, but that doesn't
> work at the moment.  I sent a message to IANA 2 weeks ago asking
> what they'd like me to put in there, but haven't had a response.
> I think we're better off not delaying this any furhter, and if
> IANA responds in the next while, we can fix that with a note to the
> RFC-editor, in the worst case.
>
> Thanks,
> Leslie.
>
> Internet-Drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Uniform Resource Names Working Group of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : URN Namespace Definition Mechanisms
> >         Author(s)       : L. Daigle, D. van Gulik, R. Iannella, P. Faltstrom
> >         Filename        : draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt
> >         Pages           : 18
> >         Date            : 08-May-01
> >
> > The URN WG has defined a syntax for Uniform Resource Names (URNs)
> > [RFC2141], as well as some proposed mechanisms for their resolution
> > and use in Internet applications ([RFCXXXX], [RFCYYYY]).  The whole
> > rests on the concept of individual 'namespaces' within the URN
> > structure.  Apart from  proof-of-concept namespaces, the use of
> > existing identifiers in URNs has been discussed ([RFC2288]), and this
> > document lays out general definitions of and mechanisms for
> > establishing URN 'namespaces'.
> > This document obsoletes RFC2611.
> > Discussion of this document should be directed to urn-ietf@ietf.org
> >
> > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt
> >
> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username
> > "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in,
> > type "cd internet-drafts" and then
> >         "get draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt".
> >
> > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in
> > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html
> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt
> >
> > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail.
> >
> > Send a message to:
> >         mailserv@ietf.org.
> > In the body type:
> >         "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt".
> >
> > NOTE:   The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in
> >         MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility.  To use this
> >         feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE"
> >         command.  To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or
> >         a MIME-compliant mail reader.  Different MIME-compliant mail readers
> >         exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with
> >         "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split
> >         up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on
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> >
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> > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the
> > Internet-Draft.
>
> --
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> "The best laid plans
>     are written in pencil."
>    -- ThinkingCat
>
> Leslie Daigle
> leslie@thinkingcat.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: Bertrand.Ibrahim@CUI.UNIGE.CH
Subject:      Bad URL in draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt
To: URN-IETF@LISTS.NETSOL.COM

In draft-ietf-urn-rfc2611bis-03.txt, section 4.0 (URN Namespace Registration,
Update, and NID Assignment Process) refers the reader to

  ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/URN-namespaces/

for the official list of registered URN namespaces maintained by IANA.
The correct URL should be

  ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/urn-namespaces

That is, the should not be a '/' at the end and all letters should be
lower case.

In addition, the abstract (on page 1) mentions that discussion of this
document should be directed to urn-ietf@ietf.org, which is a bogus
address (urn-ietf@lists.netsol.com might be the correct one, since
the draft announcement was CC-ed to that address).

Hope this helps.

Bertrand Ibrahim.
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From owner-urn-ietf@LISTS.NETSOL.COM  Thu May 24 15:53:34 2001
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FYI, there is a listserver for the domain industry called DOMAINS-L.

Thought you all might be interested.

Have a look here==>

http://DOMAINS-L.com

Best,
Hal Meyer


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Reply-To: Ron Bennett <bennett@WYOMISSING.COM>
From: Ron Bennett <bennett@WYOMISSING.COM>
Subject:      VeriSign COVER UP - Read All About it INSIDE!
To: URN-IETF@LISTS.NETSOL.COM

Interesting how VeriSign leaves up the mailing list URN-IETF that's received
a whole 19 posts in the past three months along with full member list and
archives, and yet VeriSign deleted the most active list, Domain-Policy
claiming it was no longer needed. And even worse, VeriSign did this with no
warning and in the process they deleted its respective member list and
archives.

And yet this very *slow* list is still up and running as usual. Looks like a
cover up to me...how about to you?

Read the story of how VeriSign very rudely and unprofessionally removed all
traces of the Domain-Policy list below...

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/25/0223221&mode=thread

Like to read the archives of the Domain-Policy list...they're now available
at the following URLs:

http://www.wyomissing.com/bennett/domainpolicyarchives.zip

http://www.valuenames.com/bennett/domainpolicyarchives.zip

Even older archives may now be available at Tucows - http://www.tucows.com/

Thank you for taking time to read this...assuming anyone reads this list
anymore :-;


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Howdy,

This is the official mailing list of the IETF URN working group.
See
        http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/urn-charter.html

Low traffic reflects the fact that the WG is almost done, winding
up last documents and waiting on the IESG to process our documents.
Postings not concerned with WG work items are off topic.

Please take that as notice that your posting is off-topic, and don't
pursue this here.

Thanks,

Leslie Daigle.
IETF URN WG Co-Chair.

Ron Bennett wrote:
>
> Interesting how VeriSign leaves up the mailing list URN-IETF that's received
> a whole 19 posts in the past three months along with full member list and
> archives, and yet VeriSign deleted the most active list, Domain-Policy
> claiming it was no longer needed. And even worse, VeriSign did this with no
> warning and in the process they deleted its respective member list and
> archives.
>
> And yet this very *slow* list is still up and running as usual. Looks like a
> cover up to me...how about to you?
>
> Read the story of how VeriSign very rudely and unprofessionally removed all
> traces of the Domain-Policy list below...
>
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/25/0223221&mode=thread
>
> Like to read the archives of the Domain-Policy list...they're now available
> at the following URLs:
>
> http://www.wyomissing.com/bennett/domainpolicyarchives.zip
>
> http://www.valuenames.com/bennett/domainpolicyarchives.zip
>
> Even older archives may now be available at Tucows - http://www.tucows.com/
>
> Thank you for taking time to read this...assuming anyone reads this list
> anymore :-;

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RFCYYYY defines a how DNS is used as a DDDS database that contains
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