From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Jun 13 18:23:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCA811E80BD for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rmm93tGOD2wm for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE3511E80BB for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 18:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (dsl-179-111.dynamic-dsl.frii.net [216.17.179.111]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 230C340066; Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4DF6B81C.9010503@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:23:40 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bengt Neiss References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010000070201050503060706" Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Some short comments on RFC 2141bis X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about possible revisions to the definition of Uniform Resource Names List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:23:44 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010000070201050503060706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/16/11 7:25 AM, Bengt Neiss wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Just want to give some comments on a couple of issues. >=20 > 1. I think there should be a section describing the possibility t= o > divide (or extend?) a namespace into sub-namespaces and what rules that= > applies to a sub-namespace. (ie. delegation to sub-naming authorities).= Isn't this is a matter for specific namespaces? What do you think the generic URN syntax specification could say about this? > 2. In section 2.1 there is a "note for discussion" on restrictin= g > NIDs even further. > If restrictions still are considered for NIDs I think there should be n= o > restrictions for a NID that consists of a numerical value of two or mor= e > numbers (eg. 118), or a numerical range (eg. 561111-2301). What is the use case for allowing a namespace *identifier* to contain 2+ numbers or a numerical range? You are suggesting that it would be fine to allow things like "urn:118:foo" and "urn:561111-2301:bar". Why? Can't the registrant of a NID choose something more human-readable? > 3. Should there be a "max length" limit for a URN (or a > recommendation?)? > As identifiers, URNs might turn up in other systems and it might be goo= d > idea to give a recommendation on the =E2=80=9Cmax length=E2=80=9D of a = URN even if there > is no limit as such. Why are URNs any different from generic URIs (RFC 3986) in this respect? 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