From nobody Tue May 1 14:19:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2922E12EAC9 for ; Tue, 1 May 2018 14:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aSi13YBceWA3 for ; Tue, 1 May 2018 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonic306-27.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic306-27.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.68.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 884AB12EACB for ; Tue, 1 May 2018 14:19:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1525209578; bh=Lr68w0zFaW8kaYXyJV1eczD18KyNhJk/X0K+S2lcNGs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=dONqbZwQcpSscn4xbfCUQ2RCqz3SFmj9crYEPHFwSirc7HtYYGoDdzMSwiOeYEGD5T39zvKQ23GuNa2u6d9zcp9pM4j/nuOysn/5xIQ2g30gfA/NqoHiwC6Kwiti28vXK7uMWtxGVs/W3OKMC+bALJkyINiOgw9dJI+V55oXrWaXhnQC562qkKq6nWdCRQNyhthM+zm8GKmEmkTbp23Zx+WCEb+Szm11dG+8JurafrRoagJcQYjASuB1QkgfkGF3DSghckycnDpg6RKGIo08ecWs2l8RhsN3BIIs3rFOnYSTgRqJL66S3hfTGzg85cK+Tqv1BTWCrjxOVPr7iEKo9A== X-YMail-OSG: 1r9EOycVM1kgSnogYB7pLoMo9xKVQpZONHV3JvvqGtEuZxuLXJGpAU2Bkin12_F s1j1Qv7kfCE.JB9LM0xD4czhR2b4Q7BCt2YuUHS3DtgbzctOrkRcFyK34RSRAalqqHl4c_Z98YS3 nFRrqOtug0mgGVVzdydiOSYDVP4o3JTqsXW4V3v.gpKjHft_3VXPzT_glYRmmmBNv0YrEkIXipRu YT2l6H1RSi6n_IoYDdVrHcmnjcEtvNpEtSapniKWloAim1JdgyUsE3Xi8Q.VltFBiSCI4BcnjokC K4njBqGZfNjXdsQ2BS81Zz.UDMi4oH2HPIKI.IIKECiCWrguqDkPKTEsgMD8_D2D3JJRl3mFb42z EQdMnoG9KNv2PCOzx3y77RYau.7ViSN7mnAIE1fPDI4CqHnzikdkKd7hXxHrLcJxg8v4C.w6UuN. azmX.g.Gje96suda.yAZzAKBYtttdYbxclKMF6fI4VvXpHvh1xEX_lRqinpCGMX_bDTBuqT2Mgtg f66saW5kChC5x4jXl__D0A5R7RnZ2gu4r0CeqjX5nN7ZxBWWoJSXvVCgm81kDNfXduzSnSO.bS_5 qVbXI0iVAKeL8V.T70Rwp.yJDNIi1X7vx8fx1FRZoIBIBx2qPxV20RJB2pRQx9CbV Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 1 May 2018 21:19:38 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 21:19:37 +0000 (UTC) From: R Atarius Reply-To: R Atarius To: "Svensson, Lars" , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <2041391203.2977552.1525209577066@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <6a449a9a570f4389844e2374c285db7d@dnb.de> References: <1152249163.1658635.1523577151047.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1152249163.1658635.1523577151047@mail.yahoo.com> <6a449a9a570f4389844e2374c285db7d@dnb.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2977551_488198254.1525209577064" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.11819 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/65.0.3325.181 Safari/537.36 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 May 2018 21:19:41 -0000 ------=_Part_2977551_488198254.1525209577064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ThanksDone! From: "Svensson, Lars" To: R Atarius ; "urn@ietf.org" Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 3:13 AM Subject: RE: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 Hi Roozbeh, On Friday, April 13, 2018 1:53 AM, R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com] wrote: > new revision has been uploaded. > > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17.txt Thanks, as promised I've now read the complete I-D again. Tiniest nits: 1) The declaration of syntactic structure uses "pchar" and "pct-encoded" without defining them anywhere. You might want to add something along the lines "'pchar' and 'pct-encoded' are defined in RFC 3986". 2) In the references section, the entry for SC.R4002-0 has "Version 10.0" in the text but the URL and the linked document say Version 12.0. Best, Lars ------=_Part_2977551_488198254.1525209577064 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks
Done!

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From: "Svensson, Lars" <L.Svenss= on@dnb.de>
To: R At= arius <r_atarius@yahoo.com>; "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>
= Sent: Monday, April 23, 2= 018 3:13 AM
Subject: R= E: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17

Hi Roozbeh,

On = Friday, April 13, 2018 1:53 AM, R Atarius [mailto:r_atari= us@yahoo.com] wrote:

> new revi= sion has been uploaded.
>
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-atarius-dispatch= -meid-urn-17.txt


Thanks, as = promised I've now read the complete I-D again.

Tiniest nits:

1) The declara= tion of syntactic structure uses "pchar" and "pct-encoded" without defining= them anywhere. You might want to add something along the lines "'pchar' an= d 'pct-encoded' are defined in RFC 3986".

2) In the references section, the entry for SC.R4002-0 has "Version 10.= 0" in the text but the URL and the linked document say Version 12.0.

Best,

L= ars

=


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Worley" Cc: Alexey Melnikov , L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, enrico.francesconi@ittig.cnr.it, john-ietf@jck.com, juha.hakala@helsinki.fi, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex References: <72446a5a-ec31-cc7e-d00a-11029ed941b3@stpeter.im> <87a7tk6wgz.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: --R0z81PLQu7iOnS8SETLcyM5zghTD1i684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No objections here! On 4/30/18 11:08 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > Thanks for this, Dale: this seems like a reasonable way forward to me, > at this time. > Do others agree? >=20 > Barry >=20 > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:39 PM Dale R. Worley > wrote: >=20 > My apologies for not working on this earlier. >=20 > The current draft of "urn-lex" is draft-spinosa-urn-lex-12.=C2=A0 P= eople have > criticized its proposed URN system in many ways, but it seems to me= that > most of the criticisms are "bibliographic", they concern good ways = to > create identifiers for written works.=C2=A0 As such, the IETF is no= t a good > forum for correcting most of those problems. >=20 > My proposal is that we implement "rough consensus and running code"= -- > obtain a usable registration of the "lex" URN namespace so that the= > authors and ITTIG can put the "lex" URNs into practice.=C2=A0 The p= rocess of > using the URNs will educate the authors regarding the correct resol= ution > of the various problems, and will likely cause them to later submit= a > revised registration. >=20 > That is, the registration we create at this time will be understood= to > be experimental in nature. >=20 > In order to be suitable as an "experimental" registration, there ar= e a > few problems that must be resolved: >=20 > 1. The URN syntax must conform to the generic URN syntax. >=20 > 2. The requirements of uniqueness and persistence must be met.=C2=A0= (That > is, any URN designates at most one resource, and the resource that = it > designates must not change over time.=C2=A0 However, it is permissi= ble to > have multiple URNs designate the same resource.) >=20 > 3. The process or authority that assigns each URN must be well-defi= ned. >=20 > Item 1 is taken care of, in that the syntax in -12 conforms (as far= as I > can tell) to the URN syntax in RFC 8141. >=20 > Item 2 is the responsibility of the Jurisdictional Registrars, in t= he > same way that the naming authorities of many other URN namespaces a= re > responsible for uniqueness and persistence. >=20 > Item 3 requires that a registry of jurisdiction codes and Jurisdict= ional > Registrars be maintained.=C2=A0 Section 11.2 of the -12 draft propo= ses that > IANA maintain the registry.=C2=A0 Given the experimental nature of = the URN > registration, it seems to me to be premature to involve IANA, espec= ially > since the principles that the Designated Export must implement are > likely to change over time.=C2=A0 Instead, it seems to me that the = best > choice for registrar is ITTIG-CNR, the proposer and developer of th= e URN > namespace. >=20 > When the namespace definition is transitioned to a non-experimental= > status (including fixing a good set of policies to assign jurisdict= ion > codes), the registry can be transferred to IANA to implement the pr= oven > policies. >=20 > Following this path requires only small changes for -13, viz., upda= ting > section 11.2. >=20 > Dale > -------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > Archived discussions: >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03828.html > 16 Nov 2017 > "urn:lex draft v. 12" >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03811.html > starting 20 Sep 2017 > "Request for new URN namespace review: LEX" > Message-Id: > <1505909590.1544977.1112321704.5FEB92F9@webmail.messagingengine.com= > > >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01270.html= > starting 29 Apr 2014 > "Publication request for draft-spinosa-urn-lex" > Message-Id: > > >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01204.html= > starting 27 Mar 2013 > "Application for a formal URN NID" > Message-Id: <23A64284-6B03-4B24-B680-54A61E96BECA at ittig.cnr.it > > >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01059.html= > 15 Oct 2009 > "URN LEX Namespace submission" >=20 > --=20 > Barry > -- > Barry Leiba =C2=A0(barryleiba@computer.org ) > http://internetmessagingtechnology.org/ --R0z81PLQu7iOnS8SETLcyM5zghTD1i684-- --gDEYymTUb9rIs5diVuPnEte5oofRhwloh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NrEQ0ZP3sgaKytVlRymvimhn6rZG2BE5f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 13:36:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --NrEQ0ZP3sgaKytVlRymvimhn6rZG2BE5f Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SkxMnGGm2bOQuBxKxuY47B3VjAc1GoZJF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: "Svensson, Lars" , R Atarius , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 References: <1152249163.1658635.1523577151047.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1152249163.1658635.1523577151047@mail.yahoo.com> <6a449a9a570f4389844e2374c285db7d@dnb.de> <2041391203.2977552.1525209577066@mail.yahoo.com> <10cfd173edef472d9d6a6d2d0a141281@dnb.de> In-Reply-To: <10cfd173edef472d9d6a6d2d0a141281@dnb.de> --SkxMnGGm2bOQuBxKxuY47B3VjAc1GoZJF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Lars! Dale and I provided additional feedback on April 12th, so I expect Roozbeh will publish version -18 and then we'll be done. :-) Peter On 5/2/18 1:10 AM, Svensson, Lars wrote: > Hi Roozbeh, all, >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Thanks, then I have no more comments and as far as I=E2=80=99m concerne= d this > request can move on. >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Best, >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Lars >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > *From:*R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2018 11:20 PM > *To:* Svensson, Lars ; urn@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Done! >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - >=20 > *From:*"Svensson, Lars" > > *To:* R Atarius >; > "urn@ietf.org " > > *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 3:13 AM > *Subject:* RE: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Hi Roozbeh, >=20 >=20 > On Friday, April 13, 2018 1:53 AM, R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.co= m > ] wrote: >=20 >> new revision has been uploaded. >>=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17.txt >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks, as promised I've now read the complete I-D again. >=20 > Tiniest nits: >=20 > 1) The declaration of syntactic structure uses "pchar" and "pct-encoded= " > without defining them anywhere. You might want to add something along > the lines "'pchar' and 'pct-encoded' are defined in RFC 3986". >=20 > 2) In the references section, the entry for SC.R4002-0 has "Version > 10.0" in the text but the URL and the linked document say Version 12.0.= >=20 > Best, >=20 > Lars >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 --SkxMnGGm2bOQuBxKxuY47B3VjAc1GoZJF-- --NrEQ0ZP3sgaKytVlRymvimhn6rZG2BE5f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEO1gGYnPG8aeH+JR96gakkSvFrakFAlrpvrwACgkQ6gakkSvF ran2VQ/+LGErkYFQr5RSIJHhalde+p+AafqzmnqNGq1SkISvBVBsZmD8NDxKckEk AZv6qW0p8H9IRohS3kI1YUB8ZEgTeoZnOJq8btaZ1rxrMRrYtf+1dHKXIyzRaldf UblbhnQ4NdPD+FBKgQPoM1u8miJZiBAB4vZD/ZgcRLHvQC+peG8XjH4O2gx5gYRR YcQt1J61k54BM7Ymj/808o4Foz6MYwrqi8eC7HzfVdFtdtb++KPw81fJjdlTp0WV +3KBvfG74gxMk+NE8LnUcevdOFr8YP2fRCOxiPzc+8fbv4lvJy+hHglI9/q9Kc7v n1usYfwgO/dKd0okoWa/SpjGKYoJGjpq1r1SbE5BO1FzI8dP7yHzTH65BkCAVtBH UIUbmgqXu89vXqEB6FYJuPLlw83b/TQIQLwL8aBGA5GwhhoTRNWMGNatwP7v+Z52 TlIzbJRPnq7e1Da6XFJzcgFBX3MHbj1sbsUdQvRpf0KQz0PmXAcks/EgIa8cb/UX qcviqZQsdef+qYHhYrlu1Rn31epnZ8Y6kHvv9E0GV6OKJeLF9Uhc9hBI+xExI76W Eyu5/l+hv+8HFoRE3bG/4xj8Yk56zSJ/jDtTKGNERy6RAK3XeJ0/4mspqAi3tLMT dbFggo3FqwS10GAxzkl1Dy5FcRGXQj6wBoyxqlCkkI0AQ9eXtdo= =/7dv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NrEQ0ZP3sgaKytVlRymvimhn6rZG2BE5f-- From nobody Wed May 2 06:52:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32E7126FB3 for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 06:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.88 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id stHThIqkfDoJ for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE248126D85 for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.86] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w42Dqb9d058700 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 2 May 2018 08:52:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.86] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: <625AC6E9-AFC0-4086-A01E-306DDDBC08CA@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_28CB95D7-4E40-4CC9-84B2-6A1BD9291291"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 08:52:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: "Svensson, Lars" , R Atarius , "urn@ietf.org" To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <1152249163.1658635.1523577151047.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1152249163.1658635.1523577151047@mail.yahoo.com> <6a449a9a570f4389844e2374c285db7d@dnb.de> <2041391203.2977552.1525209577066@mail.yahoo.com> <10cfd173edef472d9d6a6d2d0a141281@dnb.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 13:52:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_28CB95D7-4E40-4CC9-84B2-6A1BD9291291 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +1 Ben. > On May 2, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Peter Saint-Andre = wrote: >=20 > Thanks, Lars! Dale and I provided additional feedback on April 12th, = so > I expect Roozbeh will publish version -18 and then we'll be done. :-) >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 5/2/18 1:10 AM, Svensson, Lars wrote: >> Hi Roozbeh, all, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, then I have no more comments and as far as I=E2=80=99m = concerned this >> request can move on. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Lars >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> *From:*R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2018 11:20 PM >> *To:* Svensson, Lars ; urn@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> Done! >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>=20 >> *From:*"Svensson, Lars" > >> *To:* R Atarius >; >> "urn@ietf.org " > >> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 3:13 AM >> *Subject:* RE: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Hi Roozbeh, >>=20 >>=20 >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 1:53 AM, R Atarius = [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com >> ] wrote: >>=20 >>> new revision has been uploaded. >>>=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17.txt >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks, as promised I've now read the complete I-D again. >>=20 >> Tiniest nits: >>=20 >> 1) The declaration of syntactic structure uses "pchar" and = "pct-encoded" >> without defining them anywhere. You might want to add something along >> the lines "'pchar' and 'pct-encoded' are defined in RFC 3986". >>=20 >> 2) In the references section, the entry for SC.R4002-0 has "Version >> 10.0" in the text but the URL and the linked document say Version = 12.0. >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> Lars >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> urn mailing list >> urn@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn --Apple-Mail=_28CB95D7-4E40-4CC9-84B2-6A1BD9291291 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEExW9rpd7ez4DexOFOgFZKbJXz1A0FAlrpwqQACgkQgFZKbJXz 1A3D+Q/7Bg8yvm3y7VIP69NtBKjO+c+NWGJbdCrldBZUBOPkzmsMeWm0EfactSum mVemHw+vUSphfjtQM5DR03GgcrJbF9FDSYyuD9WXfs5j7SJ9lU3r6naGwKcBj7Lv eYDUmDg87pWPhCvEHQDCvKDw6Qo0tug3VBAXPLuNbRTXu3IjfwhfeMKote7Eo1Lg tslByPLPqDj0D12FtE6B6MvpndluErSak8ot2VzNkh0WWHwlc08UcwfNwjpvt5RI 8Q4ETph5oGt/2W6TOrcfwzOeTZtVJCFW/jMorrV7PCqMoB3Rh05EvG5dx2o/qQ4a HVIucC88Pw9aDKSdDNCMQG8ZFxYfRqiZOLEyWhBjmD8sO+fT2vdT3IyCgURMtY4Q 0/1lSjz5P10mVQGDkZOxuS8qGyzZg00RjlmWNyoY9UzEPJ26lQcet5PacCdfTowP u/7atlXO5ypQwya0jm03KqZjCnCXLLsZ9eulelWXDcJuYluZO/xW4zZba/ckdDfb LrOgdjKob8hC3QoeOaKbh7rd00zyhgpXFh17sYhic8rFuSpEqRTCKqArXSU+30/Q T5J+p4GIxnMUBI2wgyRWMmQUt2ryC3fjZjqOEGh9BBG2MviiuJrBdQLsjGolpLkC lOz10+lgrAbR6SFgQpu3DGhHguhxs73W82v3+97KivsWnXxTkLQ= =gOKU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_28CB95D7-4E40-4CC9-84B2-6A1BD9291291-- From nobody Wed May 2 07:55:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CBB12D882 for ; 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Wed, 2 May 2018 14:55:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 14:54:58 +0000 (UTC) From: R Atarius Reply-To: R Atarius To: Peter Saint-Andre , "Svensson, Lars" , "urn@ietf.org" , R A Message-ID: <1119359128.3261713.1525272898537@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3261712_199309468.1525272898531" References: <1119359128.3261713.1525272898537.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.11819 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/65.0.3325.181 Safari/537.36 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 14:55:07 -0000 ------=_Part_3261712_199309468.1525272898531 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, Dale gave comments on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment about c= heck digit which I am clarifying with him in a separate mail. unfortunately= , I have not seen your comments. Could you please resend your comments? ThanksRoozbeh From: Peter Saint-Andre To: "Svensson, Lars" ; R Atarius ;= "urn@ietf.org" =20 Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 =20 Thanks, Lars! Dale and I provided additional feedback on April 12th, so I expect Roozbeh will publish version -18 and then we'll be done. :-) Peter On 5/2/18 1:10 AM, Svensson, Lars wrote: > Hi Roozbeh, all, >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Thanks, then I have no more comments and as far as I=E2=80=99m concerned = this > request can move on. >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Best, >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Lars >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > *From:*R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2018 11:20 PM > *To:* Svensson, Lars ; urn@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Done! >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > *From:*"Svensson, Lars" > > *To:* R Atarius >; > "urn@ietf.org " > > *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 3:13 AM > *Subject:* RE: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > Hi Roozbeh, >=20 >=20 > On Friday, April 13, 2018 1:53 AM, R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com > ] wrote: >=20 >> new revision has been uploaded. >>=20 >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17.txt >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks, as promised I've now read the complete I-D again. >=20 > Tiniest nits: >=20 > 1) The declaration of syntactic structure uses "pchar" and "pct-encoded" > without defining them anywhere. You might want to add something along > the lines "'pchar' and 'pct-encoded' are defined in RFC 3986". >=20 > 2) In the references section, the entry for SC.R4002-0 has "Version > 10.0" in the text but the URL and the linked document say Version 12.0. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Lars >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 =20 ------=_Part_3261712_199309468.1525272898531 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Peter,

Dale gave comment= s on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment about check digit which = I am clarifying with him in a separate mail. unfortunately, I have not seen= your comments. Could you please resend your comments?

Tha= nks
Roozbeh



<= /div>
From: Peter Saint-Andre &= lt;stpeter@stpeter.im>
To: "Svensson, Lars" <L.Svensson@dnb.de>; R Atarius= <r_atarius@yahoo.com>; "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday,= May 2, 2018 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-mei= d-urn-17

Thanks, Lars! Dal= e and I provided additional feedback on April 12th, so
I = expect Roozbeh will publish version -18 and then we'll be done. :-)

Peter

On= 5/2/18 1:10 AM, Svensson, Lars wrote:
> Hi Roozbeh, a= ll,
>
>  
>
> Thanks, then I have no more comments and as f= ar as I=E2=80=99m concerned this
> request can move on= .
>
>  
&= gt;
> Best,
>
>  
>
> Lars
>
>  
>
> *From:*R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:= * Tuesday, May 01, 2018 11:20 PM
> *To:* Svensson, Lar= s <L.Svensson@dnb.de>; urn@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
> Done!
>
>  
> <= br clear=3D"none">> ----------------------------------------------------= --------------------
>
> *From:*= "Svensson, Lars" <L.Sve= nsson@dnb.de <mailto:L.Svensson@dnb.de>>
> *To:* R Atarius <= r_atarius@yahoo.com <mailto:r_atarius= @yahoo.com>>;
> "urn@ietf.org <mailto:urn@ietf.org>" <urn= @ietf.org <mailto:urn@ietf.or= g>>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2018 3:13 AM=
> *Subject:* RE: draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17>
>  
>=
> Hi Roozbeh,
>
>
> On Friday, April 13, 2018 1:53 AM, R Atari= us [mailto:r_atarius@y= ahoo.com
> <mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com>] wrote:
>
>> new revision has been uploaded.
>>
>> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-atarius-dispatch-mei= d-urn-17.txt
>
>
>
> Thanks, as promised I've now read th= e complete I-D again.
>
> Tinies= t nits:
>
> 1) The declaration o= f syntactic structure uses "pchar" and "pct-encoded"
>= without defining them anywhere. You might want to add something along
> the lines "'pchar' and 'pct-encoded' are defined in RFC = 3986".
>
> 2) In the references = section, the entry for SC.R4002-0 has "Version
> 10.0"= in the text but the URL and the linked document say Version 12.0.
>
> Best,
>
> Lars
>
>  =
>
>  
&g= t;
>
>
> = _______________________________________________
> urn = mailing list
> ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn

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charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/2/18 8:54 AM, R Atarius wrote: >=20 > Hi Peter, >=20 > Dale gave comments on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment > about check digit which I am clarifying with him in a separate mail. > unfortunately, I have not seen your comments. Could you please resend > your comments? Here is a pointer to the archived message: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03859.html Thanks! 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Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker Message-ID: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3300562_546696856.1525278527358" References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.11819 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/65.0.3325.181 Safari/537.36 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 16:31:24 -0000 ------=_Part_3300562_546696856.1525278527358 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi For some reason I cannot find this mail in my inbox. Please see inline! ThanksRoozbeh Thanks, Roozbeh. My apologies for not commenting on earlier versions of this document. Herewith some comments.1. The title talks about MEID but this is really a registration for 3GPP2 as an organization, isn't it? That's a bit confusing.[Roozbeh] The document is proposing how to put the URN together and also register the URN. So I think the title should be alright. 2. The document uses the template from RFC 3406, not the updated template from RFC 8141. Would you mind modernizing Section 3?[Roozbeh] I have no idea how the modernized section 3 would look like. Please advise! 3. HEX is defined as uppercase only. If lexical equivalence to lowercase a-f is desired, let's specify that in the registration.[Roozbeh] S.R0048-A defines MEID as capital HEX. 4. This registration seems to fall under the fast-track registration policy (Section 6.3 of RFC 8141) and thus could point to [S.R0048-A] for many details (e.g., much of Section 4.2 in this Internet-Draft).[Roozbeh] This draft is not only for registration of MEID, but also its URN which is defined by the draft. Making these changes should not be too onerous, and might make the document shorter and simpler. Peter From: Peter Saint-Andre To: R Atarius ; "urn@ietf.org" Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 On 5/2/18 8:54 AM, R Atarius wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Dale gave comments on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment > about check digit which I am clarifying with him in a separate mail. > unfortunately, I have not seen your comments. Could you please resend > your comments? Here is a pointer to the archived message: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03859.html Thanks! Peter ------=_Part_3300562_546696856.1525278527358 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Hi 
For some reason I cannot find =
this mail in my inbox. Please see inline!

Thanks
Roozbeh

Thanks, =
Roozbeh.

My apologies for not commenting on earlier versions of this document.
Herewith some comments.
1. The title talks about MEID but this is really a regist=
ration for
3GPP2 as an organization, isn't it? That's a bit confusing.
[Roozbeh] The documen=
t is proposing how to put the URN together and also register the URN. So I =
think the title should be alright.

2. The document uses the template from RFC 3406, not the updated
template from RFC 8141. Would you mind modernizing Section 3?
[Roozbeh]  I have =
no idea how the modernized section 3 would look like. Please advise!

3. HEX is defined as uppercase only. If lexical equivalence to lowercase
a-f is desired, let's specify that in the registration.
[Roozbeh] S.R0048-A defin=
es MEID as capital HEX.

4. This registration seems to fall under the fast-track registration
policy (Section 6.3 of RFC 8141) and thus could point to [S.R0048-A] for
many details (e.g., much of Section 4.2 in this Internet-Draft).
[Roozbeh] This d=
raft is not only for registration of MEID, but also its URN which is define=
d by the draft.

Making these changes should not be too onerous, and might make the
document shorter and simpler.

Peter


=
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpe= ter.im>
To: R Atarius <r_atarius@yahoo.com>; "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.o= rg>
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid= -urn-17

On 5/2/18 8:54 AM, R Atarius wrote:=
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Dale gave comments on March 27th which I reso= lved. He had a comment
> about check digit which I am = clarifying with him in a separate mail.
> unfortunatel= y, I have not seen your comments. Could you please resend
> your comments?

Here is a pointer= to the archived message:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/we= b/urn/current/msg03859.html


Thanks!<= br clear=3D"none">
Peter

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Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker Message-ID: <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> --9qTJn2xFnijFhTkhevKN8bVvHlj3IxiVB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/2/18 10:28 AM, R Atarius wrote: > Hi=20 >=20 > For some reason I cannot find this mail in my inbox. Please see inline!= >=20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Roozbeh >=20 >=20 > Thanks, Roozbeh. >=20 > My apologies for not commenting on earlier versions of this document. > Herewith some comments. >=20 > 1. The title talks about MEID but this is really a registration for > 3GPP2 as an organization, isn't it? That's a bit confusing. >=20 > [Roozbeh] The document is proposing how to put the URN together and als= o register the URN. So I think the title should be alright. It's not something that bothers me too much, but I still think it's confusing - you're not just registering MEID but 3GPP2 and anything "under" 3GPP2. > 2. The document uses the template from RFC 3406, not the updated > template from RFC 8141. Would you mind modernizing Section 3? >=20 > [Roozbeh] I have no idea how the modernized section 3 would look like.= Please advise! RFC 8141 describes the new template. Here are some good examples of registrations that use the new template: https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/isbn https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/issn https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/mrn > 3. HEX is defined as uppercase only. If lexical equivalence to lowercas= e > a-f is desired, let's specify that in the registration. >=20 > [Roozbeh] S.R0048-A defines MEID as capital HEX. OK. > 4. This registration seems to fall under the fast-track registration > policy (Section 6.3 of RFC 8141) and thus could point to [S.R0048-A] fo= r > many details (e.g., much of Section 4.2 in this Internet-Draft). >=20 > [Roozbeh] This draft is not only for registration of MEID, but also its= URN which is defined by the draft. Yes, I meant registration of the MEID URN namespace (actually the 3GPP2 URN namespace). Peter >=20 > Making these changes should not be too onerous, and might make the > document shorter and simpler. >=20 > Peter >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= - > *From:* Peter Saint-Andre > *To:* R Atarius ; "urn@ietf.org" > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:03 AM > *Subject:* Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >=20 > On 5/2/18 8:54 AM, R Atarius wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Dale gave comments on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment >> about check digit which I am clarifying with him in a separate mail. >> unfortunately, I have not seen your comments. Could you please resend >> your comments? >=20 > Here is a pointer to the archived message: >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03859.html >=20 >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Peter >=20 >=20 --9qTJn2xFnijFhTkhevKN8bVvHlj3IxiVB-- --IgvJ2tdZl4geLVtPpyPwtq2EDldzN8feZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEO1gGYnPG8aeH+JR96gakkSvFrakFAlrqAwUACgkQ6gakkSvF ramvoBAAie7majpOvKVctdnaIOXri+O3nxNLWLnACm/zM8xORXNxVk30aGT9A+Po cYZw+cGgYckch0rul046+upsL+JZiJOzD7kd4Om2nl/sm+UOJa9UBNbyxh/0i/UK I7BnRrXATN2hWLFOs0LPjqrqbFWxZNqEXcEaQ2BYv7Ef10tOq9wgwp3ZL0kAwi4a /K2NSoq2DA/pwSK+rwiL6M/8EwJ4V9AfAe1PQuc6gT1fo90eFhLPVBwS9EDcYz46 KGKwoCXLVj85u5Iqg/m5sMKUbmPufke7wDG/v3hhAPpGPGcEWAyoo+kjRin7TC/v e26x4WRIBV57XMe0Rzls6JQ51sXcwvSmzBiFxR4yON6oTZc4rak/YQk8BUR5JWPu rytEBf0hx1wpzdaG8r4McF2C/qfXG+pLabtcd2+4C1G6C2RhwuMrfV+eTpYvilzP FREuuNXhG2Y514dDwMbDDiFSmt10uZchW8BNDlwwx6EzBWxPmLA+zFgoh/WyOap0 KoZBCOs1GywXSLgcgLFtxRnStaMQHuwh/YvYB+p0zRH5ElA4pWXTYX8QUNFRa2q+ DnldY8bJH+w0xHir5La27tYvSiLsu5AcCeM0LUFqlz5KYbtSo0AgCM2FZAuy0uNB Z98dIM1QklRPio5a/MRXVqlx8hUd4+C4Fck85rwyOeNv39ztagE= =FbAj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IgvJ2tdZl4geLVtPpyPwtq2EDldzN8feZ-- From nobody Wed May 2 13:44:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A72C12DA23 for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 13:44:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FKzYu4iqo8Fq for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonic301-28.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic301-28.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.64.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 017BB12DA19 for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 13:44:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1525293889; bh=2aX0JFiYZTvlkORqrQ5vve9zatTIDU49Dvc87J0okKc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=nt93XY0LTI9oSeSp6whqObkiRdbiAqzJWvByiho77K8GfskejDm0moCxwi6IJL0MkEh9dqcBZj3c/oShvPQv4I9Eyebf3bJQ2ZMF8yqNAfrD6ssrDo1skvoafUvliygOyW5i8k5H97D15PO5TJkWpv8/VfR/t3KeFFkocUHlvGnuTHmu+iVYC0mdiOWsWsV3XvtZ0Rai8zWuVuv+aMfN+njq/gcC4JYZyh5AVP80QwX//QcP/YaIoDAuhO3j7RV02mg+P5NU9BPn/D6gBE2iQu9qSViX1w7CyrN9GjiC9Jp+2wY+4vkqTgLwZ1EmDRxib4Q7tdBBDzJbdXd/nf2GvQ== X-YMail-OSG: TtlfWjkVM1lzwyYoR_8d6AFqj0fOMf2ri2Cczp9LV4qG5FG7zmbuA0ZztQoFbNv lybA9HnPMelXt08TVU2r6HWTv0QqcrBHYiQPjpGnVANUzqGtikrDm1gVBWtdRgzv.x3O1588LSWf 33ON4d.SemmvMg2EEJe4fqUw9iJxBa9QwLHzE3qgonO6HOvoBJWLuR_3yCxegUQ0CUwqRgKUMy9o NxbThkGOQNS2n_kShOxAQObykD7wgsgYJ9QKtnmerDtAM60_TdbSRHFnEFVmy0gEjgSDsW9twupu vCvW8YVWoCb8ZLyEc52b5WTpA0slPkyYAO_qgInw.FjVzqT02kpUGSJZMg2NcF7eYwEPY8XgwhNu ey_iL4XPTz5GhZPphEoAkO13rKTgA_B99uLJgk2SraeiZyJ7LGHhHLcFoHbJgCtwD2Ar8hmfaaYI kXvieCbORPkz0Fc2xfaikoNfJXJkpmdDRwMcaVCpD0F342Kh_cXHyMEEHsoP7XhwmSnjddVv3hf2 OitefnvFE.pxcr4JR9evyi_z4LqQvKXMdaTb8mY.mMWso.nhrtDrE4oqu0Oh_ZAnpg4MlLm56byg _pGHOr5fTI6IPuJfsjwiP3IEEPzFk5E4VWUSk.qf8H0ARn2Ei.N7woPqlfgo- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 2 May 2018 20:44:49 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 20:44:44 +0000 (UTC) From: R Atarius Reply-To: R Atarius To: Peter Saint-Andre , "urn@ietf.org" , Ben Campbell , Lars Svensson , "Dale R. Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker Message-ID: <1842783532.3393660.1525293884866@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3393659_1518847543.1525293884864" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.11819 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/65.0.3325.181 Safari/537.36 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 20:44:52 -0000 ------=_Part_3393659_1518847543.1525293884864 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not sure if we need to change of format at this stage. I think it is t= oo much work which does not add any technical value. So I would like to kee= p it as it is.Regarding the title, if you do not mind much then I would lik= e to keep it as it is.Your last comment seems to me more of suggestion.=C2= =A0 ThanksRoozbeh From: Peter Saint-Andre To: R Atarius ; "urn@ietf.org" ; Ben Ca= mpbell ; Lars Svensson ; Dale R. Worley= ; Georg Mayer ; John-Luc B= akker =20 Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 =20 On 5/2/18 10:28 AM, R Atarius wrote: > Hi=20 >=20 > For some reason I cannot find this mail in my inbox. Please see inline! >=20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Roozbeh >=20 >=20 > Thanks, Roozbeh. >=20 > My apologies for not commenting on earlier versions of this document. > Herewith some comments. >=20 > 1. The title talks about MEID but this is really a registration for > 3GPP2 as an organization, isn't it? That's a bit confusing. >=20 > [Roozbeh] The document is proposing how to put the URN together and also = register the URN. So I think the title should be alright. It's not something that bothers me too much, but I still think it's confusing - you're not just registering MEID but 3GPP2 and anything "under" 3GPP2. > 2. The document uses the template from RFC 3406, not the updated > template from RFC 8141. Would you mind modernizing Section 3? >=20 > [Roozbeh]=C2=A0 I have no idea how the modernized section 3 would look li= ke. Please advise! RFC 8141 describes the new template. Here are some good examples of registrations that use the new template: https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/isbn https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/issn https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/mrn > 3. HEX is defined as uppercase only. If lexical equivalence to lowercase > a-f is desired, let's specify that in the registration. >=20 > [Roozbeh] S.R0048-A defines MEID as capital HEX. OK. > 4. This registration seems to fall under the fast-track registration > policy (Section 6.3 of RFC 8141) and thus could point to [S.R0048-A] for > many details (e.g., much of Section 4.2 in this Internet-Draft). >=20 > [Roozbeh] This draft is not only for registration of MEID, but also its U= RN which is defined by the draft. Yes, I meant registration of the MEID URN namespace (actually the 3GPP2 URN namespace). Peter >=20 > Making these changes should not be too onerous, and might make the > document shorter and simpler. >=20 > Peter >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Peter Saint-Andre > *To:* R Atarius ; "urn@ietf.org" > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:03 AM > *Subject:* Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 >=20 > On 5/2/18 8:54 AM, R Atarius wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Dale gave comments on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment >> about check digit which I am clarifying with him in a separate mail. >> unfortunately, I have not seen your comments. Could you please resend >> your comments? >=20 > Here is a pointer to the archived message: >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03859.html >=20 >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Peter >=20 >=20 =20 ------=_Part_3393659_1518847543.1525293884864 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= I am not sure if we nee= d to change of format at this stage. I think it is too much work which does= not add any technical value. So I would like to keep it as it is.
Regarding the title, if you do = not mind much then I would like to keep it as it is.
Your last comment seems to me more of suggest= ion. 

Thanks
Roozbeh


=
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
To: R Atarius <r_atarius@= yahoo.com>; "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>; Ben Campbell <ben@no= strum.com>; Lars Svensson <l.svensson@dnb.de>; Dale R. Worley <= worley@ariadne.com>; Georg Mayer <georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com>; Joh= n-Luc Bakker <jbakker@blackberry.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:27 = AM
Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17
On 5/2/18 = 10:28 AM, R Atarius wrote:
> Hi
>= ;
> For some reason I cannot find this mail in my inb= ox. Please see inline!
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ro= ozbeh
>
>
>= ; Thanks, Roozbeh.
>
> My apolog= ies for not commenting on earlier versions of this document.
> Herewith some comments.
>
= > 1. The title talks about MEID but this is really a registration for> 3GPP2 as an organization, isn't it? That's a bit confu= sing.
>
> [Roozbeh] The document= is proposing how to put the URN together and also register the URN. So I t= hink the title should be alright.

It's= not something that bothers me too much, but I still think it's
confusing - you're not just registering MEID but 3GPP2 and anything<= br clear=3D"none">"under" 3GPP2.

> = 2. The document uses the template from RFC 3406, not the updated
> template from RFC 8141. Would you mind modernizing Section 3= ?
>
> [Roozbeh]  I have no = idea how the modernized section 3 would look like. Please advise!

RFC 8141 describes the new template. Here are = some good examples of
registrations that use the new temp= late:

https://www.i= ana.org/assignments/urn-formal/isbn

https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/issn
https://www.iana.org/= assignments/urn-formal/mrn

> 3.= HEX is defined as uppercase only. If lexical equivalence to lowercase
> a-f is desired, let's specify that in the registration.<= br clear=3D"none">>
> [Roozbeh] S.R0048-A defines = MEID as capital HEX.

OK.

> 4. This registration seems to fall under the f= ast-track registration
> policy (Section 6.3 of RFC 81= 41) and thus could point to [S.R0048-A] for
> many det= ails (e.g., much of Section 4.2 in this Internet-Draft).
= >
> [Roozbeh] This draft is not only for registrat= ion of MEID, but also its URN which is defined by the draft.

Yes, I meant registration of the MEID URN namespace = (actually the 3GPP2
URN namespace).
Peter


>
> Making these ch= anges should not be too onerous, and might make the
> = document shorter and simpler.
>
>= ; Peter
>
>
&= gt;
> -----------------------------------------------= -------------------------
> *From:* Peter Saint-Andre = <stpeter@stpeter.im>
> *To:*= R Atarius <r_atarius@yahoo.com>; "urn@ietf= .org" <urn@ietf.org>
> *Sent:* Wedne= sday, May 2, 2018 9:03 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [urn] draft= -atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17
>
>= ; On 5/2/18 8:54 AM, R Atarius wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
&= gt;> Dale gave comments on March 27th which I resolved. He had a comment=
>> about check digit which I am clarifying with hi= m in a separate mail.
>> unfortunately, I have not = seen your comments. Could you please resend
>> your= comments?
>
> Here is a pointer= to the archived message:
>
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/c= urrent/msg03859.html
>
> > Thanks!
>
>= Peter
>
>


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Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker Message-ID: <79f36d67-dba2-b09d-ecbe-92de8adba0be@stpeter.im> Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> <1842783532.3393660.1525293884866@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1842783532.3393660.1525293884866@mail.yahoo.com> --O0R2O9hBQgEkEc9aV2wEXOCg9sQK8aAdj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/2/18 2:44 PM, R Atarius wrote: > I am not sure if we need to change of format at this stage. I think it > is too much work which does not add any technical value. So I would lik= e > to keep it as it is. I'd be sad if we publish a specification that uses a template and process from an obsolete RFC (for example, RFC 8141 introduced syntax for r-, q-, and f-components, and a new namespace registration should say if those are used). More pointedly, following an obsolete process might open us to appeals. I'll defer to Ben as the responsible AD. 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Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker Message-ID: <1082942912.3413870.1525294997539@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <79f36d67-dba2-b09d-ecbe-92de8adba0be@stpeter.im> References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> <1842783532.3393660.1525293884866@mail.yahoo.com> <79f36d67-dba2-b09d-ecbe-92de8adba0be@stpeter.im> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3413869_1895915859.1525294997537" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.11819 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/65.0.3325.181 Safari/537.36 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 21:03:21 -0000 ------=_Part_3413869_1895915859.1525294997537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand however this draft started long before RFC 8141, so I think there should be a transition period for the template. ThanksRoozbeh From: Peter Saint-Andre To: R Atarius ; "urn@ietf.org" ; Ben Campbell ; Lars Svensson ; Dale R. Worley ; Georg Mayer ; John-Luc Bakker Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 On 5/2/18 2:44 PM, R Atarius wrote: > I am not sure if we need to change of format at this stage. I think it > is too much work which does not add any technical value. So I would like > to keep it as it is. I'd be sad if we publish a specification that uses a template and process from an obsolete RFC (for example, RFC 8141 introduced syntax for r-, q-, and f-components, and a new namespace registration should say if those are used). More pointedly, following an obsolete process might open us to appeals. I'll defer to Ben as the responsible AD. Peter ------=_Part_3413869_1895915859.1525294997537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= I understand however th= is draft started long before RFC 8141, so I think there should be a transit= ion period for the template.

Thanks
Roozbeh



From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
= To: R Atarius <r_atariu= s@yahoo.com>; "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>; Ben Campbell <ben@= nostrum.com>; Lars Svensson <l.svensson@dnb.de>; Dale R. Worley &l= t;worley@ariadne.com>; Georg Mayer <georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com>; J= ohn-Luc Bakker <jbakker@blackberry.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-di= spatch-meid-urn-17

On 5/2/18 2:44 PM, R Atarius wrote:
> I am not sure if we need to change of format at this stage.= I think it
> is too much work which does not add any = technical value. So I would like
> to keep it as it is= .

I'd be sad if we publish a specifica= tion that uses a template and
process from an obsolete RF= C (for example, RFC 8141 introduced syntax
for r-, q-, an= d f-components, and a new namespace registration should
s= ay if those are used). More pointedly, following an obsolete process
might open us to appeals. I'll defer to Ben as the responsible = AD.


Peter


------=_Part_3413869_1895915859.1525294997537-- From nobody Wed May 2 14:05:24 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE9112420B for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 14:05:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.88 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.88 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_SPF_HELO_PERMERROR=0.01, T_SPF_PERMERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5k5P-VHbIyKM for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 14:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B23E120721 for ; Wed, 2 May 2018 14:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.86] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w42L55SF031093 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 2 May 2018 16:05:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.86] From: Ben Campbell Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A51D6CD1-BAB5-49AD-9B0E-AC10B00A3053"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 16:05:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <79f36d67-dba2-b09d-ecbe-92de8adba0be@stpeter.im> Cc: R Atarius , "urn@ietf.org" , Lars Svensson , "Dale R. Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> <1842783532.3393660.1525293884866@mail.yahoo.com> <79f36d67-dba2-b09d-ecbe-92de8adba0be@stpeter.im> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2018 21:05:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A51D6CD1-BAB5-49AD-9B0E-AC10B00A3053 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 2, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Peter Saint-Andre = wrote: >=20 > On 5/2/18 2:44 PM, R Atarius wrote: >> I am not sure if we need to change of format at this stage. I think = it >> is too much work which does not add any technical value. So I would = like >> to keep it as it is. >=20 > I'd be sad if we publish a specification that uses a template and > process from an obsolete RFC (for example, RFC 8141 introduced syntax > for r-, q-, and f-components, and a new namespace registration should > say if those are used). More pointedly, following an obsolete process > might open us to appeals. I'll defer to Ben as the responsible AD. Hi, While I agree with Peter in principle, I also recognize that most of the = work on this draft was done well before the publication of RFC 8141, and = completion has been delayed due to factors beyond Roozbeh=E2=80=99s = control. I will confer with Alexey, who is more involved with URN = registration than I am and get back with people shortly. Thanks! 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Worley" , Georg Mayer , John-Luc Bakker Message-ID: <5812d20d-5b8c-02a1-8e06-888685d74424@stpeter.im> Subject: Re: [urn] draft-atarius-dispatch-meid-urn-17 References: <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1785576630.3300563.1525278527360@mail.yahoo.com> <2a53ea2b-c765-c07e-16fa-d657529ff11a@stpeter.im> <1842783532.3393660.1525293884866@mail.yahoo.com> <79f36d67-dba2-b09d-ecbe-92de8adba0be@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: --JJBlaEDpD9qp5j5PHbUn77oTs3lHG9ZZJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/2/18 3:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On May 2, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wro= te: >> >> On 5/2/18 2:44 PM, R Atarius wrote: >>> I am not sure if we need to change of format at this stage. I think i= t >>> is too much work which does not add any technical value. So I would l= ike >>> to keep it as it is. >> >> I'd be sad if we publish a specification that uses a template and >> process from an obsolete RFC (for example, RFC 8141 introduced syntax >> for r-, q-, and f-components, and a new namespace registration should >> say if those are used). More pointedly, following an obsolete process >> might open us to appeals. I'll defer to Ben as the responsible AD. >=20 > Hi, >=20 > While I agree with Peter in principle, I also recognize that most of th= e work on this draft was done well before the publication of RFC 8141, an= d completion has been delayed due to factors beyond Roozbeh=E2=80=99s con= trol. I will confer with Alexey, who is more involved with URN registrati= on than I am and get back with people shortly. I'd be happy to help update the spec so Roozbeh doesn't have to do all the (mostly editorial) work. Peter --JJBlaEDpD9qp5j5PHbUn77oTs3lHG9ZZJ-- --la1TXRcBA2bhOio748uTzelzbamv55si2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEO1gGYnPG8aeH+JR96gakkSvFrakFAlrqKKYACgkQ6gakkSvF ramVHhAAp0dUrKja03lpLk/ftbQJ0wPr9/NglIVc0tVsAUTnnsbfjIWprIPVu4ua rDNIK7LlaCXjC4afMXg2uad99Z8GHp+CakOrTG7oHKuopJuRSrjWg+Tc9BPH/tx3 LXHJDRSf47qrzW5Ot5KrZmMmX9kACULUhgVNZNYh6g4UoDy57Rx0nvutz7yZIUyI 9W4OCVy7PxCCMKF5s+0SmZwr1KEpHXTNnY02HmZgcJOMHBcinv6P9+V61y5kQLoD po0tIkuKx2kzOWRrzJhxv3huaw4zU2pLJ2ECVJCJ+tHYdAPhcTyeiAiASnYwF9p7 fjGjz+tR5IJvaUjXYjhBGUiNM01+M8mtm6JjQAPywonj9HqcFsz/n9MB5X/cpPSZ cEybWHIXndJfV+dLuJA+ThzirXHPdzEtQ/I5NgG7/ULPGBEAqLy3X2uxGfDURu1J U8BQ9E4i0tcU3eUwajzhI0T9nGVy2QTJ/DIRyeAy2eYcouYJZLNPorYwVvXIL4I0 dQuM06bYBI2U5GYslTkzxFzbDAL2iN8frBIWiEcDgGd6ximlsO730cL26N4QB4MB aAKwkSr6djZLjTf1i0A25wkQJHi4B9h6rvoVSzv0avVuu2rKaaWGQspgBDLss4Qx HZEl6hFUBcsoT7LLoilZuQOnnOowQuBcpD4TxqPqC41wiUMACvk= =Dan6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --la1TXRcBA2bhOio748uTzelzbamv55si2-- From nobody Thu May 3 13:00:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AFD12EA6A for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 13:00:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A3u7C5O81q4w for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1A9112DA11 for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.252.137.10] (helo=PSB) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fEKOI-000CxP-Kw; Thu, 03 May 2018 15:59:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 15:59:40 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: "Svensson, Lars" , "Dale R. Worley" , juha.hakala@helsinki.fi, Peter Saint-Andre cc: Alexey Melnikov , urn@ietf.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 198.252.137.10 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: klensin@jck.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 20:00:00 -0000 Hi. While I suggested that the URN mailing list have a look at draft-hakala-urn-nbn-rfc3188bis-00 in my note of 23 April forwarding the Last Call announcement to the list, Peter has reminded me that Expert Review was never formally requested. So, to be sure that ducks are lined up and we don't have any last-minute surprises, I'm formally asking the Expert Review panel to do their thing and inviting mailing list recipients to comment as appropriate. Noting that, from IANA's standpoint, this is an update to an existing reservation and that the basic transition issues are discussed in Section 3 of RFC 8254, I believe that this request for review is strictly pro forma. But, if anyone has comments, I hope the members of the expert review team, especially those who were not involved in the construction of this document, will pay careful attention. URN namespace template review closes concurrent with the Last Call on the document, i.e., on 2018-05-21. thanks, john From nobody Thu May 3 19:02:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EF6127286 for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 19:02:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=stpeter.im header.b=i+Jw/e47; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=LiFkUKDB Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vWbcMuSd4GKY for ; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OTzUAP9u1OB9eWAF3soh5VG0I1ve8L3ns" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 02:02:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --OTzUAP9u1OB9eWAF3soh5VG0I1ve8L3ns Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="5Ps0GpwVQI90fO170wFRA9IdRJr2h6XVr"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: John C Klensin , juha.hakala@helsinki.fi Cc: Alexey Melnikov , urn@ietf.org, 'Robert Sparks' Message-ID: <7eed0245-949b-8c36-4299-bcf16c736f7d@stpeter.im> Subject: Re: URN namespace for NBNs References: In-Reply-To: --5Ps0GpwVQI90fO170wFRA9IdRJr2h6XVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/3/18 1:59 PM, John C Klensin wrote: > Hi. >=20 > While I suggested that the URN mailing list have a look at > draft-hakala-urn-nbn-rfc3188bis-00 in my note of 23 April > forwarding the Last Call announcement to the list, Peter has > reminded me that Expert Review was never formally requested. > So, to be sure that ducks are lined up and we don't have any > last-minute surprises, I'm formally asking the Expert Review > panel to do their thing and inviting mailing list recipients to > comment as appropriate.=20 >=20 > Noting that, from IANA's standpoint, this is an update to an > existing reservation and that the basic transition issues are > discussed in Section 3 of RFC 8254, I believe that this request > for review is strictly pro forma. But, if anyone has comments, > I hope the members of the expert review team, especially those > who were not involved in the construction of this document, will > pay careful attention. >=20 > URN namespace template review closes concurrent with the Last > Call on the document, i.e., on 2018-05-21. Robert Sparks pointed out to me offlist that the ABNF might not be quite right, in particular nbn_string. I suggest: OLD nbn_string =3D <specific per prefix> ; MUST adhere to RFC 3986 <path-rootless> syntax; ; parsers must regard nbn_strings as case-sensitive [...] Whereas the prefix is regarded as case-insensitive, NBN-strings MAY be case-sensitive at the preference of the assigning authority; parsers therefore MUST treat these as case-sensitive; any case mapping needed to introduce case-insensitivity MUST be implemented in the responsible resolution system. NEW nbn_string =3D path-rootless ; the "path-rootless" rule is defined in RFC 3986 [...] The structure (if any) of the nbn_string is determined by the authority for the prefix. Whereas the prefix is regarded as case-insensitive, the nbn_string MAY be case-sensitive at the preference of the assigning authority; parsers therefore MUST treat these as case-sensitive; any case mapping needed to introduce case-insensitivity is the responsibility of the relevant resolution system. Peter --5Ps0GpwVQI90fO170wFRA9IdRJr2h6XVr-- --OTzUAP9u1OB9eWAF3soh5VG0I1ve8L3ns Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEO1gGYnPG8aeH+JR96gakkSvFrakFAlrrvzcACgkQ6gakkSvF ranQow/+PqA9IeV8elBdcBHCIRAqiPLzmxlVx23wgGCnegevVXoRb+K1dcZFxglH VSlqtn18WXQta0wI7PVXzSXDZNSalx5lca7iDXWahXBLRQKuq7wSBi5ddFIM1yjQ zndkbHdRNrv7g9RygtOoAZE00ZTdhcWxw8gI61ahfVE2zz3KI0Np1cy2iuBTXfbP eknZetxW5F2xONNhjxoa4dZgD/vBuzccy5TnCDYty/km/gnPtEZrWzTKCB6OFunG ETSQwgbs8quwAevr/bY1t4S1WjqY6YmoNTpxQLomKjwgWtyAfq95ExQ3oeyzj4/C zaYLh2Ljy0uLnZkB4MxRg//NrSUndk7dF5VctTFPGu73P3fQyXFi353T15j+mW44 m2U9pO5FTHbGGeI/EMsNf7u7Pv0IXoepK9rUU74O0cUacuvyGxJI0r5HAh4n3Z6Q GfUnIVih0QW7ztTG5NSKm0q9jvqNcVqEZYDwcdnzKgTRrUjhnd+0IcXxgutFXs41 BbgmSOXcw0yB2NTPaztno7HNsLQG425y0AKwaiiZmExc9pLKT4fWrU8694Y+WLUA mUqNFuIUfIV5RO+9ybN9ZT6LXT2hS/M4s1yAA76SJKcUfjIAplEcw1Al7j5V4Utj YJrfbZdL/lfe/46Dk920lUtO/aZsNrkSjOWJulsXzyhwzX56Cas= =YN8A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OTzUAP9u1OB9eWAF3soh5VG0I1ve8L3ns-- From nobody Thu May 3 19:37:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B926126DCA for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 19:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O9cMm_iCguiv for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 720A6124BFA for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 19:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id EP8AfuKd9L7BSEQaifdBx2; Fri, 04 May 2018 02:37:00 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id EQaefhvgqPhUCEQaffDDqA; Fri, 04 May 2018 02:36:59 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w442auwQ014522; Thu, 3 May 2018 22:36:56 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w442asqc014518; Thu, 3 May 2018 22:36:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: juha.hakala@helsinki.fi Cc: John C Klensin , L.Svensson@dnb.de, stpeter@stpeter.im, alexey.melnikov@isode.com, urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: (klensin@jck.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 22:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: <871ses4055.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPgm1z4Hi+ghmedCm+WM1rLgiggEwsSFaEqwUUmi53nlTjM9pvkEthEpRhayQ8ADo9tkrn2Bl7YK2qow7gtEY3QI3T7MszpJgz3dCyG7LyQKU1E5eQ9V hFQbihBwfHiMH1Xu7XveoNKqDA6T4e5P3MPN5Z3nm/zfWOXRvxNSXsaoLxGt7ie3HSNmUEyVHEvbHlsLs5DVTbqQpWhqaLg/bkcX1AU6lEpuVqddiSWPmHR5 SPWd2wffJIiVcxzGLC8z5ffUWj/D5WbZSJE/KNbvujWkSEuawf7IbWvwoWmQOiJgnZBFAiueJvnvALR0boeqMZg8z4zSdp5nOiYQq6yiYcI+XHS951Wwfw3w 1FC7vpgznwAq0El9EMharlq+t6ZpYhIXQ315v0Ubxl14BvLHd9I= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 02:37:02 -0000 The draft looks fine to me. There are various nits, which I've listed below. Dale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Various terminology like "hand-held", "immaterial", and "digital" is used. Do you have a clear terminology in mind? 2. Conventions used in this document "NBN" refers to any National Bibliography Number identifier system used by the national libraries and other institutions, which use these identifiers with the national library's support and permission. s/library's/libraries'/ since it is "support of libraries". (Check with the Editor!) 3.1. The URN:NBN Namespace For instance, even if a digitized book has an ISBN, JPEG image files of its pages get NBNs. You probably want to say "may get". 3.2. Community Considerations for NBNs Note that the f-component is not a part of the NSS and therefore the ... Resources identified by NBNs are not always available in the ... If an NBN identifies an immaterial work, descriptive metadata about ... These three paragraphs seem to be more about the resolution process than community considerations. Perhaps they can be separated in some way? 4.1. Overview uniqueness of the URN:NBNs at the global scale [Iso3166MA"/>. This reference is corrupted. 4.2. Encoding Considerations and Lexical Equivalence When an NBN is used as a URN, the namespace-specific string (NSS) MUST consist of three parts: o a prefix, structured as a primary prefix, which is a two-letter ISO 3166-1 country code, ... This doesn't specify *what* the country code must be. Instead, When an NBN within a national library's identifier system is used as a URN, the namespace-specific string (NSS) MUST consist of three parts: o a prefix, structured as a primary prefix, which is the two-letter ISO 3166-1 country code of the library's country, ... 5. URN Namespace ID (NID) Registration for the National Bibliography Number (NBN) Declaration of syntactic structure of NSS part: nbn_string = <specific per prefix> ; MUST adhere to RFC 3986 <path-rootless> syntax; ; parsers must regard nbn_strings as case-sensitive There is trouble with <...> here. Colon MAY be used as a delimiting character only within the prefix, between ISO 3166-1 country code and sub-namespace code(s), which split the national namespace into smaller parts. Comparing with the text in 4.2, I don't think this is phrased correctly, as it may imply that colon may not appear in the nbn_string. Reading it as: Colon MAY be used (as a delimiting character only within the prefix) ... Instead: Colon MAY be used within the prefix only as a delimiting character between the ISO 3166-1 country code and the sub-namespace code(s), which split the national namespace into smaller parts. -- See Section 4.2 of RFC XXXX for examples. There should be a note telling the RFC Editor to insert the RFC number here. Process for identifier resolution: See Section 4.3 of RFC XXXX. Ditto. Rules for lexical equivalence of NSS part: ... Formally, two URN:NBNs are lexically equivalent if they are octet- by-octet equal after the following (conceptional) preprocessing: 1. normalize the case of the leading "urn:" token; This should be 'the leading "urn:nbn:" token', as otherwise the "nbn" is not mentioned! 8. Acknowledgements Revision of RFC 3188 started during the project PersID [PERSID] Later Insert a full-stop after the reference. 9. Contributors Alfred Hoenes was the editor and co-author of two of the documents from which this one is, in part, derived. Is it possible to provide a description or reference to these documents? (One appears to be in the references already.) Appendix A. Significant Changes from RFC 3188 Updated URN:NBN Namespace Registration template for IANA; whole document adapted to new URN Syntax document, RFC 2141bis, and new URN Namespace Registration document, RFC 3406bis (now retired and merged into 2141bis. This paragraph is hard to read, and it has unbalanced parentheses. Use of query directives and fragment parts with this Namespace is now specified, in accordance with the aforementioned RFCs. The terminology in RFC 8141 is "query components" and "fragment components". 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Worley" CC: John C Klensin , "L.Svensson@dnb.de" , "stpeter@stpeter.im" , "alexey.melnikov@isode.com" , "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs Thread-Index: AQHT41DSmzY7klZuEkyzsOBieLt7RqQfM3Tw Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 08:30:15 +0000 Message-ID: References: (klensin@jck.com) <871ses4055.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: <871ses4055.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Accept-Language: fi-FI, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [128.214.147.95] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; HE1PR07MB1595; 7:r4POoAibYxUEN3XH9A2aqP3+m+RqdaTuZHx9ddj4JMupsa/gGQjA5LD47ZpLahHdVG8Rb9NovCH9BsS26vfOpQ4FGUiNeTta+GbKNjnEluXGPU78mQsdSGJvMWfsWcmNX5RNIO+mtX49dyMpk15YqSFAKakkRpWknmYq7eu2pykl9r+Fs9fLq9hI/AKIo/Kfo8BU4LEW2FtLl2IyY9dXIGavJEsqNfpXPh6zWTXH1QKUtlDBXx3DOTsEU4hXDKSm x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SOS; x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:(104073047261496); BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652020)(8989080)(4534165)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990040)(5600026)(2017052603328)(7153060)(49563074)(7193020); SRVR:HE1PR07MB1595; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: HE1PR07MB1595: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(788757137089)(104073047261496)(157537322789937); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(102415395)(6040522)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(93006095)(93001095)(3002001)(3231254)(11241501184)(806099)(944501410)(52105095)(10201501046)(6041310)(201703131423095)(201702281529075)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123560045)(20161123564045)(20161123562045)(20161123558120)(6072148)(201708071742011); SRVR:HE1PR07MB1595; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:HE1PR07MB1595; x-forefront-prvs: 06628F7CA4 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(346002)(376002)(366004)(396003)(39380400002)(39860400002)(189003)(199004)(13464003)(486006)(2906002)(6506007)(478600001)(5890100001)(7696005)(5660300001)(25786009)(68736007)(99936001)(8936002)(11346002)(102836004)(6346003)(3280700002)(9686003)(26005)(305945005)(81156014)(105586002)(7736002)(2900100001)(6436002)(106356001)(3660700001)(186003)(476003)(97736004)(99286004)(446003)(33656002)(74316002)(74482002)(6116002)(3846002)(6246003)(6916009)(59450400001)(76176011)(53936002)(229853002)(55016002)(14454004)(316002)(4326008)(66066001)(54906003)(86362001)(786003)(8676002)(81166006)(5250100002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR07MB1595; H:HE1PR07MB3097.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: helsinki.fi does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=juha.hakala@helsinki.fi; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: +rnaawJJirRp5BIso6NM8oMelaqDI9sQFdIaxOJ6CwfkwuRiSnCkf5pwE4nhlz8+zAk00f9MAGXwD3HdmzAmOfVPndpB7mCUyywbgXajFGB32g54fuWWqkVXx+g6l6Q8OY2I6Et1dt4KvIG7FW25fdb8MIzjqqlH1QjpkDPuqL5hAmWs1850M+EphFE68JYlA/iuxwlVSiOVTplpbcTWthPC/dOm2LFz9fdicpTHHXwualb93s2fIwdRaoB3aHNw spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_HE1PR07MB3097E9C7F5811ABED0F1D7D0FA860HE1PR07MB3097eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 5b20223d-1d9e-4705-364c-08d5b199434f X-OriginatorOrg: helsinki.fi X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 5b20223d-1d9e-4705-364c-08d5b199434f X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 May 2018 08:30:15.8619 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 98ae7559-10dc-4288-8e2e-4593e62fe3ee X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB1595 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 08:30:34 -0000 --_002_HE1PR07MB3097E9C7F5811ABED0F1D7D0FA860HE1PR07MB3097eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Dale; all,=20 Thank you very much for reviewing the draft thoroughly! I have made almost = all changes requested by you, Alexey and Peter. But I may have misunderstoo= d something so it is necessary to check the attached result. And instead of= fixing broken links I may have created a few more ;-). =20 There were two competing suggestions on what to do with ABNF; I have used P= eter's version.=20 I do not have better terms with which to replace hand-held, immaterial or d= igital. They are commonly used and well understood within the library commu= nity. Work such as Hamlet is immaterial, but it becomes hand-held when it i= s published as a manifestation such as a printed book. PDF version of Hamle= t is another manifestation of the work, not hand-held but digital / electro= nic. =20 Under community concerns there were paragraphs which from your point of vie= w dealt with the resolution process. I have modified the text in order to m= ake it more clear why to me these things are (also and perhaps primarily) c= ommunity concerns. =20 The draft specified three different ways in which NBNs can be used to ident= ify component parts of resources (assign separate NBN to each component par= t, use local NSS syntax to indicate component parts within a resource, all = sharing the same base NBN belonging to the resource itself, and using URN f= -component). I deleted the middle option because I am not aware of any nati= onal library using it and without giving a real example it is hard to under= stand how these URN:NBNs would actually work.=20 I have added references to the new, RFC 8141 -compliant ISBN and ISSN names= pace registrations and deleted the reference to I-D which was an early vers= ion of an updated ISBN namespace registration.=20 Alfred Hoenes is still mentioned as a contributor but the text is shorter. = There was no point to refer to any documents especially after I dropped th= e reference to the outdated URN namespace revision request I-D he worked on= .=20 All the best,=20 Juha -----Original Message----- From: Dale R. Worley =20 Sent: perjantai 4. toukokuuta 2018 5.37 To: Hakala, Juha E Cc: John C Klensin ; L.Svensson@dnb.de; stpeter@stpeter.im= ; alexey.melnikov@isode.com; urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs The draft looks fine to me. There are various nits, which I've listed belo= w. Dale ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Various terminology like "hand-held", "immaterial", and "digital" is used. = Do you have a clear terminology in mind? 2. Conventions used in this document "NBN" refers to any National Bibliography Number identifier system used by the national libraries and other institutions, which use these identifiers with the national library's support and permission. s/library's/libraries'/ since it is "support of libraries". (Check with th= e Editor!) 3.1. The URN:NBN Namespace For instance, even if a digitized book has an ISBN, JPEG image files of its pages get NBNs. You probably want to say "may get". 3.2. Community Considerations for NBNs Note that the f-component is not a part of the NSS and therefore the ... Resources identified by NBNs are not always available in the ... If an NBN identifies an immaterial work, descriptive metadata about ... These three paragraphs seem to be more about the resolution process than co= mmunity considerations. Perhaps they can be separated in some way? 4.1. Overview uniqueness of the URN:NBNs at the global scale [Iso3166MA"/>. This reference is corrupted. 4.2. Encoding Considerations and Lexical Equivalence When an NBN is used as a URN, the namespace-specific string (NSS) MUST consist of three parts: o a prefix, structured as a primary prefix, which is a two-letter ISO 3166-1 country code, ... This doesn't specify *what* the country code must be. Instead, When an NBN within a national library's identifier system is used as a URN, the namespace-specific string (NSS) MUST consist of three parts: o a prefix, structured as a primary prefix, which is the two-letter ISO 3166-1 country code of the library's country, ... 5. URN Namespace ID (NID) Registration for the National Bibliography Number (NBN) Declaration of syntactic structure of NSS part: nbn_string =3D <specific per prefix> ; MUST adhere to RFC 3986 <path= -rootless> syntax; ; parsers must regard nbn_strings = as case-sensitive There is trouble with <...> here. Colon MAY be used as a delimiting character only within the prefix, between ISO 3166-1 country code and sub-namespace code(s), which split the national namespace into smaller parts. Comparing with the text in 4.2, I don't think this is phrased correctly, as= it may imply that colon may not appear in the nbn_string. Reading it as: Colon MAY be used (as a delimiting character only within the prefix) ... Instead: Colon MAY be used within the prefix only as a delimiting character between the ISO 3166-1 country code and the sub-namespace code(s), which split the national namespace into smaller parts. -- See Section 4.2 of RFC XXXX for examples. There should be a note telling the RFC Editor to insert the RFC number here= . Process for identifier resolution: See Section 4.3 of RFC XXXX. Ditto. Rules for lexical equivalence of NSS part: ... Formally, two URN:NBNs are lexically equivalent if they are octet- by-octet equal after the following (conceptional) preprocessing: 1. normalize the case of the leading "urn:" token; This should be 'the leading "urn:nbn:" token', as otherwise the "nbn" is not mentioned! 8. Acknowledgements Revision of RFC 3188 started during the project PersID [PERSID] Later Insert a full-stop after the reference. 9. Contributors Alfred Hoenes was the editor and co-author of two of the documents from which this one is, in part, derived. Is it possible to provide a description or reference to these documents? (= One appears to be in the references already.) Appendix A. Significant Changes from RFC 3188 Updated URN:NBN Namespace Registration template for IANA; whole document adapted to new URN Syntax document, RFC 2141bis, and new URN Namespace Registration document, RFC 3406bis (now retired and merged into 2141bis. This paragraph is hard to read, and it has unbalanced parentheses. Use of query directives and fragment parts with this Namespace is now specified, in accordance with the aforementioned RFCs. The terminology in RFC 8141 is "query components" and "fragment components"= . 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Worley" Cc: John C Klensin , "L.Svensson@dnb.de" , "alexey.melnikov@isode.com" , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <53cdadb3-c4c2-9ba7-63dc-64f15bbd3978@stpeter.im> Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs References: <871ses4055.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: --rWWEwC1zqDno5v4csua1l0RPJWwamL242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/4/18 2:30 AM, Hakala, Juha E wrote: > Hello Dale; all,=20 >=20 > Thank you very much for reviewing the draft thoroughly! I have made alm= ost all changes requested by you, Alexey and Peter. But I may have misund= erstood something so it is necessary to check the attached result.=20 Thanks as always, Juha. Unfortunately, the registration template is not quite consistent with the new template in RFC 8141 (compare the section headings in Appendix A https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141#appendix-A against the headings in Section 5 of draft-hakala-rfc3188-nbn-00). Bringing your template into harmony with RFC 8141 is mostly editorial; the only substantive task is defining the security and privacy considerations. Let me know if (as the document shepherd) I can help with this. Peter --rWWEwC1zqDno5v4csua1l0RPJWwamL242-- --mZmtQuiz1a9PRBaZ93rKsUESJbIqEABN0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEO1gGYnPG8aeH+JR96gakkSvFrakFAlrsohgACgkQ6gakkSvF ramOEBAAmIv87eWCETONcjnHot8kebN2BuaxDyB5ZK3ECPSy+pWQlUXtRXV/iDGv 6ylAEsNnjn3lAJzPZvl6gni0SYkC8xUOzOHMgvKZGqmBQXfZgTJ0YbAwa7pABA84 M21QJETaH4iy3VEnQfrklbtX0HVSaF7lQ27YU50Yi8PLRJAGOuK23UOfpvNiwdf+ dce0Wnb0UORm/efz7vNI4JLNNbviIH9n4NkBLz72Udy4yRfW5N7FP08eTSzEX8PZ AKPiL7Ah+jabRYC1byE+1E9nGRK609cGNyNh0jMJEDM95kX3pBVJdWqman3eIbGK 0xKj0bdK7/IT+U/uCtoVmfgDy0MAABWkWK4eeml7Z1Bj+nN7DKtknDS2lG8NupjN t3TA1x11GoDtbClJQrKVQ9oHo3Gpoz6scHB0CxBjPoIO5Y3XVlPL7KoPdEPr2ua8 f8S1ZEDWe5zzK85ySARgyQH4ntj/krhKDv+kovNC/IJdXLOzB0XDJLp8xt90xqyX +kYOHB0R67NX8nBxE+2tIU0QFEFZmbva5EUY+KC3qRkklHpHHGIQUK9mJ5kTfcfc eX8Gl/I1KKJB2GymmKiUnnVQzFA0Cl+pB9lbywNsrlBjeYcvJSEeXxOuCNj1n+zP Vgnxw9/2cdzaQFsX9kCWD7VvkY5XxyPdICuZtfe7byVScQ0+ERU= =szc7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mZmtQuiz1a9PRBaZ93rKsUESJbIqEABN0-- From nobody Sat May 5 06:54:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE0412E893 for ; Sat, 5 May 2018 06:54:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.684 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.684 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KGBBoq0hqLS7 for ; Sat, 5 May 2018 06:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07657120726 for ; Sat, 5 May 2018 06:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.97]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id EvEjfDCkFWblmExdaf8fE8; Sat, 05 May 2018 13:54:10 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id ExdWftGqk1sg3ExdXf3JUk; Sat, 05 May 2018 13:54:08 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w45Ds6w5006444; Sat, 5 May 2018 09:54:06 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w45Ds5nF006441; Sat, 5 May 2018 09:54:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: "Hakala\, Juha E" Cc: alexey.melnikov@isode.com, urn@ietf.org, klensin@jck.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de In-Reply-To: (juha.hakala@helsinki.fi) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 09:54:05 -0400 Message-ID: <87wowi1a4i.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfC5WSU7/OutOzb8LnFMYnIf4jJwO5dElbuvfsE67N6s0dsyAyt3GLganzndsnVnPPEAyleYG8a4wbvOPuvt3hAZtBoLcSA9X7aYqa3V4bga0C1d1NHKi 0xREkZk0YMLeIWv1tR+CbiUwc27GcAe04zn8u0yFx8TNwMlCR7/JJeJFBhlPXhN4hfZhzzjEmonaYsFlDl1Ajiyy806Odr7d0JqLsa07UnTD6wksmCvCFJIm wHhM1Lap4lNGwoZqix/kEuadUjr/0qQKoOU25tzsTxhh0Op3fEcryCWA/hdMOlB3A69eK3swssoioJjJZ1BKxdd1SIwQirj6UhdEzC7a7z2CG/gq7kFpyi// WjhMLhQq Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN namespace for NBNs X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 13:54:12 -0000 "Hakala, Juha E" writes: > I do not have better terms with which to replace hand-held, immaterial > or digital. They are commonly used and well understood within the > library community. [...] Ah! I was unaware that those are "terms of art" within the library/bibliographic community. By all means, continue to use them. I was only concerned with a problem that shows up in a lot of drafts, where the authors haven't settled on terminology and use multiple terms for the same thing throughout the draft. But your community has a set terminology... 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Attached is a template (formatted as an I-D) for a U= RN request for the ONF.  Please contact scott.mansfield@ericsson.co= m if there are questions or clarifications needed about the request.&nb= sp;

 

The URN request is attached, and the ONF plan for UR= N management can be found here à https://wiki.opennetworking.org/download/attachments/325386251/ONF%20URN%20= Management.pdf?version=3D1&modificationDate=3D1526608343229&api=3Dv= 2

 

Regards,

-scott.

 

Scott Mansfield

Ericsson Inc.

+1 724 931 9316

 

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boundary="irO9rpFIYMqyt5afOP8BuLW9kgisSE2Yr" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN request for Open Networking Foundation (ONF) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 17:12:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --irO9rpFIYMqyt5afOP8BuLW9kgisSE2Yr Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="C0YFHcsw61fH7DKL6DpcBOvS5ITDxvbn0"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: Scott Mansfield , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <00fbcc49-15c3-ab47-8ace-1d2d67e290e6@mozilla.com> Subject: Re: [urn] URN request for Open Networking Foundation (ONF) References: In-Reply-To: --C0YFHcsw61fH7DKL6DpcBOvS5ITDxvbn0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Scott, Thanks for posting this. Please note that both RFC 2141 and RFC 3406 have been replaced by RFC 8141, and that the registration template has changed as well: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141#appendix-A Your registration follows the old (RFC 3406) template, but it should be fairly straightforward to update it. It might helpful to provide a bit more information about the purpose and syntax of the identifiers that ONF plans to create (e.g., the syntax is more fully defined in the PDF file than in the registration). Peter On 5/22/18 6:47 AM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > Attached is a template (formatted as an I-D) for a URN request for the > ONF.=A0 Please contact scott.mansfield@ericsson.com > if there are questions or > clarifications needed about the request.=A0 >=20 > =A0 >=20 > The URN request is attached, and the ONF plan for URN management can be= > found here =E0 > https://wiki.opennetworking.org/download/attachments/325386251/ONF%20UR= N%20Management.pdf?version=3D1&modificationDate=3D1526608343229&api=3Dv2 > >=20 >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > -scott. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Scott Mansfield >=20 > Ericsson Inc. >=20 > +1 724 931 9316 >=20 > =A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 --C0YFHcsw61fH7DKL6DpcBOvS5ITDxvbn0-- --irO9rpFIYMqyt5afOP8BuLW9kgisSE2Yr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is an updated document that uses the sections found in Appendix A of R= FC 8141. I also added an example of how the ONF will use the area under th= e onf assignment. Let me know if you need any further clarifications. Thanks, -scott. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Saint-Andre [mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:12 PM To: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] URN request for Open Networking Foundation (ONF) Hi Scott, Thanks for posting this. Please note that both RFC 2141 and RFC 3406 have b= een replaced by RFC 8141, and that the registration template has changed as= well: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141#appendix-A Your registration follows the old (RFC 3406) template, but it should be fai= rly straightforward to update it. It might helpful to provide a bit more information about the purpose and sy= ntax of the identifiers that ONF plans to create (e.g., the syntax is more = fully defined in the PDF file than in the registration). Peter On 5/22/18 6:47 AM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > Attached is a template (formatted as an I-D) for a URN request for the=20 > ONF.=A0 Please contact scott.mansfield@ericsson.com=20 > if there are questions or=20 > clarifications needed about the request. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > The URN request is attached, and the ONF plan for URN management can=20 > be found here =E0 > https://wiki.opennetworking.org/download/attachments/325386251/ONF%20U > RN%20Management.pdf?version=3D1&modificationDate=3D1526608343229&api=3Dv2 > URN%20Management..pdf?version=3D1&modificationDate=3D1526608343229&api=3D= v2> >=20 >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > -scott. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Scott Mansfield >=20 > Ericsson Inc. >=20 > +1 724 931 9316 >=20 > =A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 --_002_EF35EE4B92789843B1DECBC0E24558646BDDC7DBeusaamb107erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; name="draft-onf-urn.txt" 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micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ip4L4AITy540XipLzojwdlGf0NE5DSdZd" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN request for Open Networking Foundation (ONF) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 18:50:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ip4L4AITy540XipLzojwdlGf0NE5DSdZd Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="KPb37uYLzGVvuh5rd406p0sNC21X0LtUX"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: Scott Mansfield , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <9d098607-abbf-b2bd-cf06-2cea065bbd6f@mozilla.com> Subject: Re: [urn] URN request for Open Networking Foundation (ONF) References: <00fbcc49-15c3-ab47-8ace-1d2d67e290e6@mozilla.com> In-Reply-To: --KPb37uYLzGVvuh5rd406p0sNC21X0LtUX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/22/18 12:35 PM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > Here is an updated document that uses the sections found in Appendix A = of RFC 8141. I also added an example of how the ONF will use the area un= der the onf assignment. >=20 > Let me know if you need any further clarifications. Thanks for the quick turnaround! Three small points: 1. I'd move most of what's in Section 2.11 to Section 2.6, and leave just the pointer to [5] in 2.11. 2. I'm not sure we want to reference RFC 1737, and certainly not in a normative fashion (because it's an informational RFC). 3. RFC 8141 should be a normative reference. Also, these days you don't need to write an Internet-Draft in order to register a URN namespace - RFC 8141 changed the process from "IETF Consensus" to "Expert Review". There are a few more reviewers on this list, and I'll ping them in a few days if we don't hear from them. Thanks again, Scott. Peter >=20 > Thanks, > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Saint-Andre [mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 1:12 PM > To: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] URN request for Open Networking Foundation (ONF) >=20 > Hi Scott, >=20 > Thanks for posting this. Please note that both RFC 2141 and RFC 3406 ha= ve been replaced by RFC 8141, and that the registration template has chan= ged as well: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141#appendix-A >=20 > Your registration follows the old (RFC 3406) template, but it should be= fairly straightforward to update it. >=20 > It might helpful to provide a bit more information about the purpose an= d syntax of the identifiers that ONF plans to create (e.g., the syntax is= more fully defined in the PDF file than in the registration). >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 5/22/18 6:47 AM, Scott Mansfield wrote: >> Attached is a template (formatted as an I-D) for a URN request for the= =20 >> ONF.=A0 Please contact scott.mansfield@ericsson.com=20 >> if there are questions or=20 >> clarifications needed about the request. >> >> =A0 >> >> The URN request is attached, and the ONF plan for URN management can=20 >> be found here =E0 >> https://wiki.opennetworking.org/download/attachments/325386251/ONF%20U= >> RN%20Management.pdf?version=3D1&modificationDate=3D1526608343229&api=3D= v2 >> > URN%20Management..pdf?version=3D1&modificationDate=3D1526608343229&api= =3Dv2> >> >> >> =A0 >> >> Regards, >> >> -scott. >> >> =A0 >> >> Scott Mansfield >> >> Ericsson Inc. >> >> +1 724 931 9316 >> >> =A0 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> urn mailing list >> urn@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >> >=20 --KPb37uYLzGVvuh5rd406p0sNC21X0LtUX-- --ip4L4AITy540XipLzojwdlGf0NE5DSdZd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Tue, 22 May 2018 15:51:22 -0400 From: Scott Mansfield To: "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Formal URN request for ONF Thread-Index: AdPyBPZfloRxT6hyRpCpbyTeLEfTnw== Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 19:51:21 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_004_EF35EE4B92789843B1DECBC0E24558646BDDCAF9eusaamb107erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrIIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoO7uEpZog5/tChZTmz8wOTB6LFny kymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY9OHmewFv+srNp54ytjAeLCqi5GTQ0LARGL/5ynMXYxcHEIC Rxklnk6+zA7hLGeUuPzkESNIFRtQ1dZd08FsEQFFiX3PmthBbGEBZYlVT5YAxTmA4hoSb98I QZToSbxbvJcZJMwioCqxY5MhSJhXwFeit2Ev2BRGATGJ76fWMIHYzALiEreezGeCuEdE4uHF 02wQtqjEy8f/WCFsJYlJS8+xQtRnSnRt3cAGMVNQ4uTMJywTGAVnIRk1C0nZLCRlEPF8icl3 nzJD2DoSC3Z/YoOwtSWWLXzNDGOfOfCYCVPcSOLByR6oejWJ+6vWs84ChhazwDpGiefrjkEV KUpM6X7IvoCRZxUjR2lxQU5uupHBJkZgZB2TYNPdwXh/uuchRgEORiUe3mWJLNFCrIllxZW5 hxhVgFofbVh9gVGKJS8/L1VJhPfTJaZoId6UxMqq1KL8+KLSnNTiQ4zSHCxK4rxnPHmjhATS E0tSs1NTC1KLYLJMHJxSDYzTFp3+GbRnTcnZ/EqR9PwHOW3bpctj13U6trT+P3RGVVOM+/ah iaxCttkyB2MjtruaBm+cznhCy+dK/6+X0rsWO61rfSkt53k/UY2ryreMt+Pem+q47a4MnjIF mfcOWl3UtexO9swPltwjbpfd2fDakn++0DupCQFXNnL+XcWXzhNhv/N/gRJLcUaioRZzUXEi AMpQ6py0AgAA Archived-At: Subject: [urn] Formal URN request for ONF X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 19:51:28 -0000 --_004_EF35EE4B92789843B1DECBC0E24558646BDDCAF9eusaamb107erics_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Scott Mansfield

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X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 19:53:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --yzjuUYmiCWYLiWPw4MjTWsr7J8I1IMpvJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="v2XN3VdqBrydEaL6UAfDOWFrDo9xr7hXr"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: Scott Mansfield , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal URN request for ONF References: In-Reply-To: --v2XN3VdqBrydEaL6UAfDOWFrDo9xr7hXr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott: thanks again for the quick fixes. Reviewers: it would be great if the rest of you could take a look at this, too. Thanks! Peter On 5/22/18 1:51 PM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > Thanks for the feedback received so far, here is an update of the > request form. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > -scott. >=20 > =A0 >=20 > Scott Mansfield >=20 > Ericsson Inc. >=20 > +1 724 931 9316 >=20 > =A0 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 --v2XN3VdqBrydEaL6UAfDOWFrDo9xr7hXr-- --yzjuUYmiCWYLiWPw4MjTWsr7J8I1IMpvJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENVUj07j078lgnb70ZWGMGH9oFKkFAlsEdUQACgkQZWGMGH9o FKm9gA//Z7YaiO6tU86TpUS0FyFVIGYb0HaodAnSTaOy1ufFP+/UIVQiDUwKjMeX qTxSe2TtlURiG3G4/2Yky+kaQc66MLS0JEGvB2nCMyh5cEet4qWHx86/eDxrexcl tWiz54C61klUix7N4/+WQt4qTiQQxaVqp2O9PrLKlNrtGWrVCSrU+yOzCh9djTKo ZY+qcGYTZtR8+sJioNPUpWgWQSwEeGMjaFLSHz1og0fT3+SNxNU+efscxgPK70Bo D50rKk1zFWHo2eXMG9vl7/r32HtPM2ax4rf+XREP2qzT7KalC0RNruYIaLGaBUxd QpgFu+yrLkrFgce/sh1B+gVeLYpkjuYPpxuCtNY3QzwEbeS3SVqrejqFExoqdTIg 7CNzaVJUwm4wsgXd0p/fGqxUb95iKy27qqqTB9P8w/iWx512Ue9Vrwgj2i9aOpdc ooSe5AXrGDlcslnDXfAPxsTSgrbDMIJRv2haRvvLBpC6Mt+MsxlzOuZM+oauwUGA 0RIe4s11mn/DveyV7JoNKFKnIx1w9Uq9sZmHpXyvcCdB009WYEsQfqVaEIanmJ4y GNc3DSQJYEC+iqEgtUwxmZWwzj9Fv0g63LNXLErZNkWRSC0Zv1ZDJ2rniiCUa2EF IVVHFvIQaDL2AcDd1IioRh7q0M9U4rSv0rebEuSst+OfxurN3dQ= =xQZY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yzjuUYmiCWYLiWPw4MjTWsr7J8I1IMpvJ-- From nobody Fri May 25 07:50:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE0E12E85B for ; 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Fri, 25 May 2018 16:50:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.669.32; Fri, 25 May 2018 16:50:20 +0200 Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7]) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7%4]) with mapi id 15.01.0669.032; Fri, 25 May 2018 16:50:20 +0200 From: "Svensson, Lars" To: Scott Mansfield , "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Formal URN request for ONF Thread-Index: AdPyBPZfloRxT6hyRpCpbyTeLEfTnwCMRS8w Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 14:50:20 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.200.69.72] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA12Ta0gUURiGOzvj7nHdY8dxzdNqlgNRdlErI6Msfxh0MS3KqDawsZ3cpXV3 mdk1zYrIMtgsDCpQsIzMyuxKlNB9CbMog7Dbjy5YWaZminZDpJmdXRv79533O+9z3m8+BlJM p84EbQ43Lzg4O6vV0/pFC/unX2ChOfnuq7BU740mbeqR0u+adM3iPwPPtYtra39rVmjW6+db eLutkBeSFmzUW5sqBylXNyoqb31D7wJlYV4AIcEppOVuiRfoIYN9gDS09dDK4QMg979UU8rh KiDtA4M6L9BBLZ5CeqxeEAqNeBU52dysletIPImc+X1NKzONeDLp7mKUKzPJ9YOnKbmm8URy +d1uINcIzybXe+tpuWbwcvK2okUn16E4i7R+awuRa4DHkUuXnvq9FI4mV9p/+nWCMam9qegE R5GOD0MhyigTyJOH25XryaSn5XjAOpXUneiklGcjyMPKj3QFiKpSUatUliqVpUplqQF0PQgX C/JnJHKWRIslL9HCXwHKJj43goPPMnwAQ8Aa0IZIaGZCuEKxuMAHsqGGjUKl4yUpPM9pKbZy ojVX8Nh5kTWieKPOzKBhOc9j38LGodgh2sxED6uiR3TZNtmcHjHXI9ilFUFKsqaHSURk4Yq3 8YJTAfpADKTZaNRxe9RaBudzbn4Lz7t4IdhdCyFLUEO8ZIwQ+Hy+aLPN7g62Jd+tfq2ZweqO P1A82nFOimlSN/7PpIGhPpAJDVKwbTIfiS6uQLTlB9iRaGm3hDAEVT93HBovDzomKI5kPgK5 sKusvJxiaIfTwZui0UoZjOXbVo9jOLdpDDreILFHqxoy3jQBzc6S5hmr0ke+8BUskdYViaD0 EzEG6d/6l5dB6bGSGBYQ/XFjUYIcNyqg/c/KlPZsRBfkL4VEN+dWD39ONhqCamD4OmX4gDgS Z9oFdvatmfx6z6KXKfeqH+TMj+lIIrfhg0d1caP7E/Yfc+79Vfa+5GJJX2NWY/a7rtW6eSWd pQX7XLPOpjWnHs5Zl9v64hA80HbqZEv3vpfhlGC586rmx9RPlY+38tOW3QwprtsvaFfvfF6R cyxj9+emhLn8UceclQbSODOud+/5Q0NCWlIGS4tWbsYUShC5vx8qLQN+BAAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal URN request for ONF X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 14:50:28 -0000 Hi Scott, Your draft is well written. Some minor points, though: [[ 2.5. Purpose Namespace needed for YANG RFC 6020 [2] RFC 7950 [3] modules. ]] It would be helpful to have some text about what exactly the identifiers ar= e supposed to do in those modules resp. what they identify. [[ 2.7. Assignment ONF manages resources that utilize this URN identification model. ]] Does ONF manage *all* resources that use this URN namespace or just *some* = resources? If it's *all* resources it would help if you say so explicitly s= o that it's clear that no other organisation can mint URNs in that namespac= e and that you have full control over the assignment. And finally you need a section on lexical equivalence saying how an agent c= an determine if two character sequences denote "the same" URN. Points to co= nsider are use normalising of upper/lower case and use of characters outsid= e of the ASCII range, particularly how to handle percent-encoding. Best, Lars *** Lesen. H=F6ren. Wissen. Deutsche Nationalbibliothek ***=20 --=20 Dr. Lars G. Svensson Deutsche Nationalbibliothek Informationsinfrastruktur Adickesallee 1 60322 Frankfurt am Main Telefon: +49 69 1525-1752 Telefax: +49 69 1525-1799 mailto:l.svensson@dnb.de=20 http://www.dnb.de > -----Original Message----- > From: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scott Mansfield > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 9:51 PM > To: urn@ietf.org > Subject: [Marketing Mail] [Caution: Message contains Redirect URL content= ] [urn] > Formal URN request for ONF >=20 > Thanks for the feedback received so far, here is an update of the request= form. >=20 > Regards, > -scott. >=20 > Scott Mansfield > Ericsson Inc. > +1 724 931 9316 From nobody Fri May 25 20:27:42 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AA21277BB for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:27:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.686 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7dfvOU1bj7qp for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6CA8124217 for ; Fri, 25 May 2018 20:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.114]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id MOyqfQIwP40iXMPrlfFYm1; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:27:37 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id MPrjfSvk9EY3qMPrjfMOWi; Sat, 26 May 2018 03:27:36 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w4Q3RYxJ008886; Fri, 25 May 2018 23:27:34 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w4Q3RXCj008883; Fri, 25 May 2018 23:27:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Scott Mansfield , timon@opennetworking.org Cc: urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: (scott.mansfield@ericsson.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 23:27:32 -0400 Message-ID: <87h8mvqeor.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDYBibld2mgrxkNXLDX5MUWxFn+6oosixFBdGpXBDHpsM0C5LSz/vHZwtjDXnXs9Gbm8WhQ0DjdQ5lKCyMcRMAp1y1NZMmuyEs8ATntsnYsFFbuChMGR r5VI3lFURyHUzybfjuNjnY4I5EfeX3aMzJWFpZ0OlGDZUlvcRnQu3n5nNr6qbXjCB//806Ots/fbZW0f9lCWg0wwMMbx6zjUJz7hvNWYe73rEEUCVAAOjMJs v3vs6vvtfIYmi+ycuZ+BDGYPEAGL7P6VvEQF2zsCPCL60A6p1nWpqYBv4Q/ivcyHOxqRQkfejczvSbuwUkwF/A== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal URN request for ONF X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 May 2018 03:27:42 -0000 Comments on draft-onf-urn, dated 22 May 2018: The draft is quite straightforward and well-conceived. It does need some improvements in how the namespace is explained. I was going to complain that the document does not specify any rules for lexical equivalence, but RFC 8141 seems to have eliminated the requirement to specify lexical equivalence rules, and to have provided default rules. 2.5. Purpose Namespace needed for YANG RFC 6020 [2] RFC 7950 [3] modules. It seems like it would be wise to allow other uses of the URN namespace. Perhaps: Namespace needed for identifiers defined by ONF, including those of YANG modules [2][3]. 2.6. Syntax urn:onf:{ResourceSpecificString} "ResourceSpecificString" identifies the information about the resource. You want to add "It must conform to the syntax NSS in [1]." so as to have an unambiguous statement of the syntax. urn:{ONF-NamespaceId}:{ONF-Project}:{ONF-SubProject}:{Protocol}:{ModuleName} o ONF-NamespaceId: onf The following four component descriptions present the four components in four distinct ways. I suggest you make them consistent and clearly separate (1) the name of the component, (2) the example value of the component, and (3) the meaning of the example value, for each of the four components. E.g., o The ONF-Project: Example: "otcc" (Open Transport Configuration & Control) etc. 2.7. Assignment ONF manages resources that utilize this URN identification model. More to the point, ONF manages the *identifiers* in this URN model. Perhaps phrase this as ONF manages this URN identification model and the assignment of identifiers within it to resources. 2.11. Documentation The ONF maintains a Uniform Resource Names (URN) document that provides the mechanism to ensure the resource identifiers are unique. Is there any (public) reference to this document describing the mechanism? 4. Revision Information o v1: Initial Version o v2: Aligned with template in Appendix A RFC 8141 [1] o v3: Moved example to the syntax system. Removed reference to RFC1737, and moved RFC8141 to normative. It took me a moment to realize that this section described revisions of this document, and not revisions of the URN registration. Document-revision information is usually removed upon publication, so you want to add a note: [Note to RFC Editor: Please remove this section before publication.] 5. Acknowledgements Technical contact person: Kam Lam Role: Co-Chair of Open Information Modeling and Tooling Project Email: kam.lam@fiberhome.com Is this an acknowledgment (in which case the heading line is not really correct), or does it provide a technical contact (which should be added to section 2.4)? Or perhaps it is both? 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