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Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and focus of= the request. The format of the request is in ID format capturing the info= rmation requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. Regards, -scott. Scott Mansfield Ericsson Inc. +1 724 931 9316 --_000_CY1PR15MB0235486A2436E18C8F5C92CB8B430CY1PR15MB0235namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is a request from International Telecommunicati= on Union (ITU) for a namespace.

 

Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensu= re clarity and focus of the request.  The format of the request is in = ID format capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141.<= o:p>

 

Regards,

-scott.

 

Scott Mansfield

Ericsson Inc.

+1 724 931 9316

 

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Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 18:45:15 -0000 --000000000000db28f205700898da Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Scott, Thanks for providing this. Two questions to confirm my understanding of how the namespace will be maintained. First, it's my understanding that in the ITU system that a single document may have more than one recommendation string defined. See: https://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BO.1774/en for an example, of a pointer to identical documents within that system. It would be useful for the ITU to communicate whether, as namespace manager, it will mint multiple identifiers for identical documents (as I understand it, this is permitted, but it is useful for others to understand when or if it will be done). Second, the document lists a registrant in ITU-TSB and the origin of the request is apparently in the needs of Study Group 15. Has the registrant considered whether a namespace specific to ITU-TSB might serve its needs as well, or confirmed that the other ITU Sectors have confirmed this registration? Note that I do not believe that answering either of these is required by the process; I put them forward solely to understand better how this will be used. Thanks for any insight. regards, Ted On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Scott Mansfield < scott.mansfield@ericsson.com> wrote: > This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for a > namespace. > > > > Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and focus > of the request. The format of the request is in ID format capturing the > information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. > > > > Regards, > > -scott. > > > > Scott Mansfield > > Ericsson Inc. > > +1 724 931 9316 > > > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > > --000000000000db28f205700898da Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Scott,

Thanks for providi= ng this.=C2=A0 Two questions to confirm my understanding of how the namespa= ce will be maintained.=C2=A0 First, it's my understanding that in the I= TU system that a single document may have more than one recommendation stri= ng defined.=C2=A0 See:=C2=A0 https://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BO.1774/en = for an example, of a pointer to identical documents within that system.=C2= =A0 It would be useful for the ITU to communicate whether, as namespace man= ager, it will mint multiple identifiers for identical documents (as I under= stand it, this is permitted, but it is useful for others to understand when= or if it will be done).=C2=A0 Second, the document lists a registrant in I= TU-TSB and the origin of the request is apparently in the needs of Study Gr= oup 15.=C2=A0 Has the registrant considered whether a namespace specific to= ITU-TSB might serve its needs as well, or confirmed that the other ITU Sec= tors have confirmed this registration?

Note that I= do not believe that answering either of these is required by the process; = I put them forward solely to understand better how this will be used.=C2=A0= Thanks for any insight.

regards,
Ted

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com> wrote:

This is a request from International Telecommunicati= on Union (ITU) for a namespace.

=C2=A0

Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensu= re clarity and focus of the request.=C2=A0 The format of the request is in = ID format capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141.<= u>

=C2=A0

Regards,

-scott.

=C2=A0

Scott Mansfield

Ericsson Inc.

+1 724 931 9316

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In-Reply-To: References: From: Ted Hardie Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 13:11:43 -0700 Message-ID: To: Scott Mansfield Cc: "urn@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000039b6d4057009d081" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 20:12:32 -0000 --00000000000039b6d4057009d081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Scott, Thanks for the quick responses, I appreciate it. regards, Ted On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Scott Mansfield < scott.mansfield@ericsson.com> wrote: > For your first question about =E2=80=9Ca single document may have more th= an one > recommendation string defined=E2=80=99=E2=80=A6 > > > > If the namespace was used for their document repository, the ITU would > create a unique identifier for each document. So that if the documents > were identical (except for file name) then there would be multiple > identifiers. > > > > > > For your second question about =E2=80=9CITU-TSB=E2=80=9D. > > > > Registering organization: > > Name: International Telecommunication Union (ITU) > > > > The address provided is the address of the group that is maintaining the > ITU namespace. So I would argue that ITU-TSB is not the registrant, but > ITU is. In the purpose section it talks about =E2=80=9CNamespace needed = for > identifier defined by ITU=E2=80=9D. Also in section 2.6 it states that = =E2=80=9CITU will > manage=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D. Yes the example I give is for the ITU-T, but t= hat is because the > T Sector will be the first to use the ITU namespace. > > > > The ITU General Secretariat has been contacted and has agreed with this > proposal. TSB will manage and coordinate with the ITU General Secretaria= t > and also the other ITU sectors. > > > > > > If I=E2=80=99m not being clear, or have misunderstood something, please l= et me > know. > > > > Regards, > > -scott. > > > > *From:* Ted Hardie > *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2018 2:45 PM > *To:* Scott Mansfield > *Cc:* urn@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU > > > > Hi Scott, > > > > Thanks for providing this. Two questions to confirm my understanding of > how the namespace will be maintained. First, it's my understanding that = in > the ITU system that a single document may have more than one recommendati= on > string defined. See: https://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BO.1774/en for an > example, of a pointer to identical documents within that system. It woul= d > be useful for the ITU to communicate whether, as namespace manager, it wi= ll > mint multiple identifiers for identical documents (as I understand it, th= is > is permitted, but it is useful for others to understand when or if it wil= l > be done). Second, the document lists a registrant in ITU-TSB and the > origin of the request is apparently in the needs of Study Group 15. Has > the registrant considered whether a namespace specific to ITU-TSB might > serve its needs as well, or confirmed that the other ITU Sectors have > confirmed this registration? > > > > Note that I do not believe that answering either of these is required by > the process; I put them forward solely to understand better how this will > be used. Thanks for any insight. > > > > regards, > > > > Ted > > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Scott Mansfield < > scott.mansfield@ericsson.com> wrote: > > This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for a > namespace. > > > > Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and focus > of the request. The format of the request is in ID format capturing the > information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. > > > > Regards, > > -scott. > > > > Scott Mansfield > > Ericsson Inc. > > +1 724 931 9316 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > > > --00000000000039b6d4057009d081 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Scott,

Thanks for the qui= ck responses, I appreciate it.

regards,
=
Ted

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com> wrote:

For your first question about =E2=80=9Ca single docu= ment may have more than one recommendation string defined=E2=80=99=E2=80=A6=

<scott>

If the namespace was used for their document reposit= ory, the ITU would create a unique identifier for each document.=C2=A0 So t= hat if the documents were identical (except for file name) then there would= be multiple identifiers.

</scott>

=C2=A0

For your second question about =E2=80=9CITU-TSB=E2= =80=9D.

<scott>

Registering organization:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Name: International T= elecommunication Union (ITU)

=C2=A0

The address provided is the address of the group tha= t is maintaining the ITU namespace.=C2=A0 So I would argue that ITU-TSB is = not the registrant, but ITU is.=C2=A0 In the purpose section it talks about= =E2=80=9CNamespace needed for identifier defined by ITU=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 Also in section 2.6 it states that =E2=80=9CITU will m= anage=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 Yes the example I give is for the ITU-T, but= that is because the T Sector will be the first to use the ITU namespace.

=C2=A0

The ITU General Secretariat has been contacted and h= as agreed with this proposal.=C2=A0 TSB will manage and coordinate with the= ITU General Secretariat and also the other ITU sectors.

</scott>

=C2=A0

If I=E2=80=99m not being clear, or have misunderstoo= d something, please let me know.

=C2=A0

Regards,

-scott.

=C2=A0

From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 2:45 PM
To: Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>
Cc: urn@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU

<= div>

=C2=A0

Hi Scott,

=C2=A0

Thanks for providing this.=C2=A0 Two questions to co= nfirm my understanding of how the namespace will be maintained.=C2=A0 First= , it's my understanding that in the ITU system that a single document m= ay have more than one recommendation string defined.=C2=A0 See:=C2=A0 https://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-BO.1774/en for an example, o= f a pointer to identical documents within that system.=C2=A0 It would be us= eful for the ITU to communicate whether, as namespace manager, it will mint multiple identifiers for identical documents (as I u= nderstand it, this is permitted, but it is useful for others to understand = when or if it will be done).=C2=A0 Second, the document lists a registrant = in ITU-TSB and the origin of the request is apparently in the needs of Study Group 15.=C2=A0 Has the registrant con= sidered whether a namespace specific to ITU-TSB might serve its needs as we= ll, or confirmed that the other ITU Sectors have confirmed this registratio= n?

=C2=A0

Note that I do not believe that answering either of = these is required by the process; I put them forward solely to understand b= etter how this will be used.=C2=A0 Thanks for any insight.

=C2=A0

regards,

=C2=A0

Ted

=C2=A0

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:03 AM, Scott Mansfield <= scott.man= sfield@ericsson.com> wrote:

This is a request from International Telecommunicati= on Union (ITU) for a namespace.

=C2=A0

Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensu= re clarity and focus of the request.=C2=A0 The format of the request is in = ID format capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141.

=C2=A0

Regards,

-scott.

=C2=A0

Scott Mansfield

Ericsson Inc.

+1 724 931 9316

=C2=A0


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Worley) To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: (scott.mansfield@ericsson.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 23:08:47 -0400 Message-ID: <87601x6mo0.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKv8sP3XbDisZT9qD/YCi4bk+U2VJGOADcX1UCO51qIxk8A14jizCU4gBY9gD/YjB0+kATIglpyffpJrktxvQGWWA5GupW9/jiGBQga4zRsOyDO+wCUq bSm0DsAlIVGxLJmoWqj3vJ2nkPBCA/JT6Y1HK5XobVEEFTvycpm81igl4407ADevU4LmJ+VH5J60HdhGsMWUkxrJEyKhVwC+bKE= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 03:08:52 -0000 Scott Mansfield writes: > This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for > a namespace. > > Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and > focus of the request. The format of the request is in ID format > capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. The registration looks generally good to me. Some questions are: Abstract This document describes the Namespace Identifier (NID) 'itu' for Uniform Resource Names (URNs) used to identify resources published by the ITU (International Telecommunication Union). The word "published" is used in the Abstract but nowhere else. All of the example URNs seem to name either publications or abstract resources described in publications. But some thought should be given to whether "published" is more restrictive that you want to commit to, and if you want to keep the word, it would probably be better to incorporate it into section 2.5 ("Purpose"). Section 2.5 describes the purpose of this namespace entirely in terms of Yang module names. But it seems likely to me that other purposes will be found for ITU URNs, and it would be wise to allow the ITU to define URNs for other types of resources. This document is referenced four times: [4] ITU, "ITU URN Management", 2017, . This document is an Informative Reference, so the namespace registration supersedes it, but it would be wise to edit "ITU URN Management" and the registration to be compatible. In particular: (1) The registration states: The ITU process is found in the ITU URN Management [4] document. Although [4] describes the syntax and semantics of URNs, it doesn't seem to describe any organizational processes. 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Worley =20 Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 11:09 PM To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU Scott Mansfield writes: > This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for=20 > a namespace. > > Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and=20 > focus of the request. The format of the request is in ID format=20 > capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. The registration looks generally good to me. Some questions are: Abstract This document describes the Namespace Identifier (NID) 'itu' for Uniform Resource Names (URNs) used to identify resources published by the ITU (International Telecommunication Union). The word "published" is used in the Abstract but nowhere else. All of the = example URNs seem to name either publications or abstract resources describ= ed in publications. But some thought should be given to whether "published= " is more restrictive that you want to commit to, and if you want to keep t= he word, it would probably be better to incorporate it into section 2.5 ("P= urpose"). I'm not sure I understand how 'published' is overly restrictive. I want wh= at the itu puts under the itu NID to be limited to resources published by t= he itu (not by other groups). Section 2.5 describes the purpose of this namespace entirely in terms of Ya= ng module names. But it seems likely to me that other purposes will be fou= nd for ITU URNs, and it would be wise to allow the ITU to define URNs for o= ther types of resources. Section 2.5 says "including those used in YANG modules", that indicates tha= t identifiers can be used for other things. YANG is the example here becau= se that will be the first use of this namespace. This document is referenced four times: [4] ITU, "ITU URN Management", 2017, . This document is an Informative Reference, so the namespace registration su= persedes it, but it would be wise to edit "ITU URN Management" and the regi= stration to be compatible. In particular: (1) The registration states: The ITU process is found in the ITU URN Management [4] document. Although [4] describes the syntax and semantics of URNs, it doesn't seem to= describe any organizational processes. (2) The document contains two syntax specifications that omit colons betwee= n components that seem to be intended: urn:itu:t:rec:{ITU-T-RecommendationNumber}{ITU-T-RecommendationSpecific= String} {ITU-T-RecommendationType}{ITU-T-RecommendationTypeIdentifier} This is good feedback. I will get the ITU to fix the syntax errors and als= o add a paragraph about how the ITU General Secretariat has given the ITU-T= TSB the role of coordinating with the rest of ITU to manage the assignment= s. 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Worley) To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: (scott.mansfield@ericsson.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:26:09 -0400 Message-ID: <87o9fn68ji.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMt9KgBMHrBQG0JvEJ/boTpBtWI4yM9Q+WjlqeKy+rEW3qeEj5psmqpxyPQEulvyxH7DTjf9k2yrgb1uunFUstWlEI289pkw2B1zqEhndML4imcoFjao WpkwyPep0tdzoo4rUzN+FDxD4ImPIckS+WetmcYzDPpgfAZPPYbEPDE/K+UblhrYGSVHWtmncWglTa/YMaU6NOWSVbLD3v5mcu9293NXuDMR0crngIEysCiv 0M4ev8Gz2L2zsS8GozB3RjSyVS6Kjf6UitI2rLHQf5s= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 02:26:16 -0000 Scott Mansfield writes: > The word "published" is used in the Abstract but nowhere else. [...] > > > I'm not sure I understand how 'published' is overly restrictive. I > want what the itu puts under the itu NID to be limited to resources > published by the itu (not by other groups). > As written, the ITU can only assign URNs to things that it *publishes*. Whereas many other organizations want to be able to assign URNs to some things that they do not publish. > Section 2.5 describes the purpose of this namespace entirely in terms > of Yang module names. [...] > > > Section 2.5 says "including those used in YANG modules", that > indicates that identifiers can be used for other things. YANG is the > example here because that will be the first use of this namespace. > Sorry, I read that section hastily and overlooked that the first sentence permits URNs to be assigned to other things than Yang modules. Nonetheless, I find the emphasis on Yang modules to be surprising. 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boundary="_000_HE1PR07MB30973FDE0B164C8DD774BE58FA410HE1PR07MB3097eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: helsinki.fi X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3f96ee4f-d211-4c42-282d-08d5e198e31a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 Jul 2018 10:28:30.3120 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 98ae7559-10dc-4288-8e2e-4593e62fe3ee X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB3497 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:28:40 -0000 --_000_HE1PR07MB30973FDE0B164C8DD774BE58FA410HE1PR07MB3097eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Scott, the only question I have is a generic one: According to 2.5, the namespace is needed for identifiers defined by ITU. ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/index.html Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what is the= ir relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors which use Handle= s as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might be better to ass= ign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as I know, ITU is the one orga= nization which can make such a request, having adopted CNRI's Handle respon= sibilities. You may have heard that International DOI Foundation is considering whether= to send a request for URN namespace for DOIs. Although the political decis= ion is still pending, Handle resolver has already been modified in such a w= ay that each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding urn:doi:= in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been registered the= DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it would not be too dif= ficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well, in e.g. urn:handle: namespa= ce. All the best, Juha Hakala From: urn On Behalf Of Scott Mansfield Sent: maanantai 2. hein=E4kuuta 2018 17.03 To: urn@ietf.org Subject: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for a na= mespace. Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and focus of= the request. The format of the request is in ID format capturing the info= rmation requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. Regards, -scott. Scott Mansfield Ericsson Inc. +1 724 931 9316 --_000_HE1PR07MB30973FDE0B164C8DD774BE58FA410HE1PR07MB3097eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Scott,

 

the only question I have is a generic one:

 

According to  2.5, the namespace is needed for ide= ntifiers defined by ITU.  

 

ITU is closely involved with the Handle system:

 

http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_= system/index.html

 

Does “identifiers defined by ITU” cover also = Handles and if so, what is their relation to URNs? In other words, are ther= e ITU sectors which use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as wel= l. As far as I know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a requ= est, having adopted CNRI’s Handle responsibilities.  =

 

You may have heard that International DOI Foundation is c= onsidering whether to send a request for URN namespace for DOIs. Although t= he political decision is still pending, Handle resolver has already been modified in such a way that each DOI can = be expressed as actionable URN just by adding urn:doi: in front of the DOI = prefix (note that such NID has not been registered the DOI system or some o= ther identifier yet). I assume it would not be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well, in e.g= . urn:handle: namespace.

 

All the best,

 

Juha Hakala

 

From: urn <urn-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Scott Mansfield
Sent: maanantai 2. hein=E4kuuta 2018 17.03
To: urn@ietf.org
Subject: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU

 

This is a request from Internat= ional Telecommunication Union (ITU) for a namespace.

 

Please review and provide comme= nts/revisions to ensure clarity and focus of the request.  The format = of the request is in ID format capturing the information requested from App= endix A of RFC 8141.

 

Regards,

-scott.

 

Scott Mansfield

Ericsson Inc.=

+1 724 931 9316<= /span>

 

--_000_HE1PR07MB30973FDE0B164C8DD774BE58FA410HE1PR07MB3097eurp_-- From nobody Wed Jul 4 11:27:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7D9130E07 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.684 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.684 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B951m8sHqbGm for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 433A3129619 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 11:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.101]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id amTYfuOYYwfygamUzfBuhA; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:27:29 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id amUxfgnzTAkphamUxfqy4M; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:27:28 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w64IRQbd024068; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:26 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w64IRQDk024065; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: "Hakala\, Juha E" Cc: scott.mansfield@ericsson.com, urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: (juha.hakala@helsinki.fi) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 14:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: <871sci6elu.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfFwTMKLPX96/e2utNZTZytLvme80g0XzTpe88BhhNNTI8eqDPczUcDFqgCxKjjwrO7rKvOdZB9hGCLVXSeD5vgrrHdfyid6V6FIXl6c6QGd0EP3TmIUI oStlB6lAntnRrkMYIAjXYF/NgQ5woVC1c01JSOqJnfTc/KvE8mVlKEMPYO9sxReWHHMxt/hFxPXP8d9Gzb01qR5/02bwAK5TThJGEGXuRoOVWSdwnX3vW5E5 NhntNeLlo8wF1utEh0k8tyRXgiTMQAv6Dt7Y7XG6ciSiSa7vQ/zcKPLEFwtb2S2HWFIn4ZxDGAr887xJo6nA4g== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:27:32 -0000 "Hakala, Juha E" writes: > ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: > > http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/index.html > > Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what > is their relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors which > use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might > be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as I > know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a request, > having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities. Wikipedia claims: Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs) through a namespace within the info URI scheme; for example, 20.1000/100 may be written as the URI, info:hdl/20.1000/100. Some Handle System namespaces, such as Digital Object Identifiers, are "info:" URI namespaces in their own right; for example, info:doi/10.1000/182 is another way of writing the handle for the current revision of the DOI Handbook as a URI. > [...] each DOI can be expressed as actionable > URN just by adding urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such > NID has not been registered the DOI system or some other identifier > yet). I assume it would not be too difficult to make Handles > actionable URNs as well, in e.g. urn:handle: namespace. That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like "doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: info:hdl/10.1000/182 info:doi/10.1000/182 doi:10.1000/182 urn:doi:10.1000/182 Dale From nobody Wed Jul 4 13:01:19 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD53F1310A1 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.75 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.75 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=Iv9r9M1D; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=taugh.com header.b=r9Kyzm7M Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S1loiz0PsE-Q for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 309E7130DD6 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 60601 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2018 20:01:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=ecb7.5b3d278a.k1807; bh=jv24y6X0UdmbSGszuSK5l4KeTD1VGzyY2srxhWipwhM=; b=Iv9r9M1DGoi3QlX4P3K7yoxxbwzrtxrLla0SwpBwX1+Npe4LKSdwN1chrHcF3jMO6HStlTSZCqPrRHPC/tR36KTc3sowibv5UhozA83F2sNHiZ2+Pa5cvXjy5w03hnawY7NXGWffLM89LHY/EDBAq1Xf2kPo5K6HAGT+6vNlA4Tl8jqJ/b5WeiHbiovKfA0xvtS4/0J7T2A6odlSNxKhhzAy0RyrG45U/PYtUHHproL5V+LgdHI/HVcm6sK/bLRE DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=ecb7.5b3d278a.k1807; bh=jv24y6X0UdmbSGszuSK5l4KeTD1VGzyY2srxhWipwhM=; b=r9Kyzm7MNyP9ffcW6EvFMAxHmUr7Gkx8TlfRzJAxA8a62Y3oKvwqvpYy10Q0jJu6xfYfJVaHdllTe6PSWkP26Wp0EgF/m3Uj0IViHYVK1mdGBKYmBt0UFWDe8uhw6XVvfqllyQeC3sGsqn9ZcpzaoXGp44D/G8GbyUiKFlGS++RAgy44QzOT8rIsDheiQRd6EhnfhR/woSKvHFh1B+nnb5DjMbbx/vc5CBDs/GFVK/Spi4Dfrz5SjAQ9zCobSl4u Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 04 Jul 2018 20:01:13 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6BA8E28D52F4; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 15:01:12 -0500 (EST) Date: 4 Jul 2018 15:01:12 -0500 Message-Id: <20180704200113.6BA8E28D52F4@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: urn@ietf.org Cc: worley@ariadne.com In-Reply-To: <871sci6elu.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 20:01:17 -0000 In article <871sci6elu.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> you write: >Wikipedia claims: > > Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform Resource > Identifiers ... Wikipedia claims a lot of things. >That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like >"doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI >Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. The DOI crowd wrote a Netscape plugin to handle doi: URIs which was abandoned a decade ago. Now they say that the preferred syntax for DOIs is a real URI using their gateway, e.g. https://dx.doi.org/10.1000/182 I have noticed that dx.doi.org will also resove ITU 11.* handles but that's not documented anywhere so I presume it's an informal hack. >So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: > > info:hdl/10.1000/182 > info:doi/10.1000/182 > doi:10.1000/182 > urn:doi:10.1000/182 The info registry closed down in 2010 and although they have old definitions for info:hdl and info:doi, I'm not aware of any implementations. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: helsinki.fi X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 5d1d8b3e-b944-480b-a02b-08d5e23b6fff X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 05 Jul 2018 05:52:05.1827 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 98ae7559-10dc-4288-8e2e-4593e62fe3ee X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB3260 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 05:52:17 -0000 Hello, some comments inline.=20 -----Original Message----- From: urn On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: keskiviikko 4. hein=E4kuuta 2018 23.01 To: urn@ietf.org Cc: worley@ariadne.com Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like=20 >"doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI=20 >Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. The DOI crowd wrote a Netscape plugin to handle doi: URIs which was abandon= ed a decade ago. Now they say that the preferred syntax for DOIs is a real= URI using their gateway, e.g. https://dx.doi.org/10.1000/182 Juha: both the DOI standard (ISO 26324) and the DOI Handbook say:=20 When displayed on screen or in print, a DOI name shall be preceded by a low= ercase "doi:" unless the context clearly indicates that a DOI name is impli= ed. The "doi:" label is not part of the DOI name value. EXAMPLE The DOI name "10.1006/jmbi.1998.2354" is displayed and printed as "doi:10.1= 006/jmbi.1998.2354". =20 The problem with this display format is that it is not actionable (URI). Th= erefore e.g Crossref recommends URI as the display format, e.g. https://doi= .org/10.1006/jmbi.1998.2354 (see https://www.crossref.org/display-guideline= s/). =20 The current recommendation is to use https://doi.org, but other options (ht= tp://doi.org, https://dx.doi.org and http://dx.doi.org) will continue to wo= rk.=20 =20 I have noticed that dx.doi.org will also resove ITU 11.* handles but that's= not documented anywhere so I presume it's an informal hack. Juha: I would rather call it "undocumented feature" :-).=20 Since DOIs and Handles use the same resolver, you can add urn:doi: to every= Handle, and it resolves OK. For instance: https://hdl.handle.net/urn:doi:1= 0138/236932. Alas, adding urn:handle: to Handle URI does not work. Since cu= rrently the resolver just ignores the urn:doi: part of the URI, extending s= imilar behaviour to urn:handle: is trivial (although the Handle service sho= uld be smart enough to apply urn:handle: just to Handles, and urn:doi: just= to DOIs).=20 >So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: > > info:hdl/10.1000/182 > info:doi/10.1000/182 > doi:10.1000/182 > urn:doi:10.1000/182 The info registry closed down in 2010 and although they have old definition= s for info:hdl and info:doi, I'm not aware of any implementations. Juha: at http://info-uri.info/, creators of "info" URI scheme say that "the= "info" registry will continue to be supported for the foreseeable future, = although prudent adopters should consider migrating their resource identity= requirements towards mainstream Web practices over the long term". So I wo= uld not recommend the first two options.=20 DOI display is an important issue since "naked" DOI such as 10.100/182 is n= either actionable nor (fully reliably) recognizable in plain text. There ar= e a lot of other strings which begin with "10." and contain "/". Crossref = solution is technology dependent but may be expected to be actionable in th= e Web for a long time.=20 Note that the URN display format is still experimental. It has some benefit= s: URN:DOIs can be easily located from plain text and they may eventually b= e actionable as such (without the resolver address). Moreover, when DOI is = encoded as URN it is possible to use f-, r- and q-components although they = (or the URI syntax equivalents of f- and q-components) have not been specif= ied in the DOI standard. Although URI fragments and queries are already com= monly used with DOIs, International DOI Foundation was unwilling to revise = the ISO standard in 2017 (the standard was published in 2012, so this was t= he ISO routine 5-year review). 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is an interesting idea. However, I'm not sure what I need to do to th= e "URN Namespace for ITU" document to address your comment. The use case driving the request for the namespace called 'itu" (which come= s from the ITU General Secretariat) is to support ITU developed YANG. If t= he ITU wants to support doi as an identifier in their tree, that is up to t= he ITU since they have to manage everything below 'itu'. The URN equivalen= ce language is generic, pointing back to section 3 of RFC 8141. The reques= t notes that the ITU-Sector information (and below) are provided as example= s to express that the ITU has thought about how they will manage the hierar= chy under the IANA assigned 'itu'. The language in the request indicates t= hat some ITU coordination has already occurred with the various sectors of = the ITU. What each sector will do will be up to that sector and coordinate= d with the ITU. Looking at the DOI issue, I don't see any issues with the = ITU using/identifying handles as part of their structure. I want to ensure the ITU has flexibility in what they do under their IANA a= ssigned namespaceID, while providing IANA with a view into how the ITU plan= s to use the hierarchy based on current planned usage. Regards, -scott. From: Hakala, Juha E Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 6:29 AM To: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org Subject: RE: Formal request for URN for ITU Hello Scott, the only question I have is a generic one: According to 2.5, the namespace is needed for identifiers defined by ITU. ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/index.html Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what is the= ir relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors which use Handle= s as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might be better to ass= ign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as I know, ITU is the one orga= nization which can make such a request, having adopted CNRI's Handle respon= sibilities. You may have heard that International DOI Foundation is considering whether= to send a request for URN namespace for DOIs. Although the political decis= ion is still pending, Handle resolver has already been modified in such a w= ay that each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding urn:doi:= in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been registered the= DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it would not be too dif= ficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well, in e.g. urn:handle: namespa= ce. All the best, Juha Hakala From: urn On Behalf Of Scott Mansfield Sent: maanantai 2. hein=E4kuuta 2018 17.03 To: urn@ietf.org Subject: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for a na= mespace. Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and focus of= the request. The format of the request is in ID format capturing the info= rmation requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141. Regards, -scott. Scott Mansfield Ericsson Inc. +1 724 931 9316 --_000_CY1PR15MB0235DEBE75B976242FF987BB8B400CY1PR15MB0235namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is an interesting idea.  However, I’= m not sure what I need to do to the “URN Namespace for ITU” doc= ument to address your comment.

 

The use case driving the request for the namespace c= alled ‘itu” (which comes from the ITU General Secretariat) is t= o support ITU developed YANG.  If the ITU wants to support doi as an i= dentifier in their tree, that is up to the ITU since they have to manage everything below ‘itu’.  The URN equi= valence language is generic, pointing back to section 3 of RFC 8141.  = The request notes that the ITU-Sector information (and below) are provided = as examples to express that the ITU has thought about how they will manage the hierarchy under the IANA assigned ‘itu̵= 7;.  The language in the request indicates that some ITU coordination = has already occurred with the various sectors of the ITU.  What each s= ector will do will be up to that sector and coordinated with the ITU.  Looking at the DOI issue, I don’t see any issues= with the ITU using/identifying handles as part of their structure.

 

I want to ensure the ITU has flexibility in what the= y do under their IANA assigned namespaceID, while providing IANA with a vie= w into how the ITU plans to use the hierarchy based on current planned usag= e. 

 

Regards,

-scott.

 

 

 

 

From: Hakala, Juha E <juha.hakala@helsinki= .fi>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 6:29 AM
To: Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>; urn@ietf.o= rg
Subject: RE: Formal request for URN for ITU

 

Hello Scott,

 

the only question I ha= ve is a generic one:

 

According to  2.5= , the namespace is needed for identifiers defined by ITU.  =

 

ITU is closely involve= d with the Handle system:

 

http://www.itu.in= t/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/index.html

 =

Does “identifiers = defined by ITU” cover also Handles and if so, what is their relation = to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors which use Handles as SectorR= esourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as I know, ITU i= s the one organization which can make such a request, having adopted CNRI&#= 8217;s Handle responsibilities.  

 =

You may have heard that = International DOI Foundation is considering whether to send a request for U= RN namespace for DOIs. Although the political decision is still pending, Ha= ndle resolver has already been modified in such a way that each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by add= ing urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been re= gistered the DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it would no= t be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well, in e.g. urn:handle: namespace. =

 

All the best,

 

Juha Hakala=

 

From: urn <urn-bounces@ietf.org> On = Behalf Of Scott Mansfield
Sent: maanantai 2. hein=E4kuuta 2018 17.03
To: urn@ietf.org
Subject: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU

 

This is a request from International Telecommunicati= on Union (ITU) for a namespace.

 

Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensu= re clarity and focus of the request.  The format of the request is in = ID format capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141.<= o:p>

 

Regards,

-scott.

 

Scott Mansfield

Ericsson Inc.

+1 724 931 9316

 

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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR15MB0128; H:CY1PR15MB0235.namprd15.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ericsson.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: +ZWfHXHkjbiLALU3Shvz9uixXIz2MxvIuu7uZl5WZsBG9Ao8UNJeyOJi6jDMy5s4JaM7cxOff/3+JI/4JiPN/JmFNqbhi843Lavdo/ejPz6b97WhvIhIsvP1ETv2RWFKJRbVLf7dPgEvG+WwXqRf38s8BpELad/Fk9lswZt3XnvjxXT4HAExo37g/LUBKysUHD7Dzi8jaA2cOaHWppbxH/8z956QyiCdiM0byy/1juQS3nGRVITJdWGLtzGl98yjj3Y1zzPxyY16VB5ZB+V+ewxXcB1uD/2x6srZjqYPqE2j8yOIrRZ7B5yWTFxVLKhybSbC6FYe6aTx4huEoY99ypzYH2WYi7KFuO3l/5d/I1U= spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: a09f33ba-0b05-4861-44da-08d5e29413da X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 05 Jul 2018 16:26:35.7010 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 92e84ceb-fbfd-47ab-be52-080c6b87953f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR15MB0128 X-OriginatorOrg: ericsson.com X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupjleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGbG9XPeAm120waeJ7BZNn9rZLaY2f2Cy eHmizIHZY/L+r8we/Sv3s3ssWfKTKYA5issmJTUnsyy1SN8ugStjyo7HbAUnxSuezo5vYGwR 7mLk5JAQMJE4O+U4SxcjF4eQwFFGiUsL/kM5Xxkl9j3bwwbhLGaSOP7xKBOIwyIwgVni84kp jBCZCUwSzSfes0I4DxklHh1sYAeZzAY0eeuu6YwgtohAuETL/JdgcWYBRYlN96cwgdjCAoYS 12eegqoxknjQ2M8EY7/c8J8ZxGYRUJHo+XoezOYViJFYdbQTzBYSmM8o8fk7H4jNKWAscXLL JzYQm1FATOL7qTVMELvEJW49mc8E8amAxJI9EHMkBEQlXj7+xwpRHy8xc+5eRoi4gsSpqw1Q tqzEpfndYF9KCGxhkng2ZQFUs67Eh6lToWxfiWkfNrJAFAF9v+rNMXaIhJbEz/YrQDYHkJ0t 0brKAyIcI/Hi6iNWCFtOYlXvQ5YJjIazkNwKYetILNj9iQ3C1pZYtvA18yyw/wUlTs58wrKA kWUVo2hxanFxbrqRkV5qUWZycXF+nl5easkmRmAqObjlt9UOxoPPHQ8xCnAwKvHwWtjZRQux JpYVV+YeYpTgYFYS4V3kDBTiTUmsrEotyo8vKs1JLT7EKM3BoiTO65RmESUkkJ5YkpqdmlqQ WgSTZeLglGpgrOk5tXqSDPvDzQt4rp9er3Ni81z2m2cv+PvWpRqsq3L6vsjgg+pXI4XKza7n Ax1PvWHtnnrgcuZ/hYglXNpHW8/aPStpX9ZdU1izOPzBzvzTz99vdAk3UH7dvbXlSZ+teXRb vTpHlP3TSF2XoPtS+RqvOK3OLcu7ceu98Nol2xqKp6Ron9VLVmIpzkg01GIuKk4EAGnE/eoh AwAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:26:48 -0000 This is what the doi factsheet says... "DOI is not registered as a URN namespace, despite fulfilling all the funct= ional requirements, since URN registration appears to offer no advantage to= the DOI System." So any examples they provide of the form urn:doi are not officially sanctio= ned, and could cause a conflict if anyone actually convinced IANA to regist= er doi as a namespace. What the ITU or DOI do with their parses/resolution= services is not something that is being considered by the ITU's request fo= r an 'itu' namespace. However, if/when 'itu' becomes a namespace, then urn:= itu:doi would become something that could be used, but based on what I'm re= ading in the DOI literature, there seems little reason for the ITU to pursu= e that. What the ITU does need is a valid Namespace that can be used for t= heir YANG documents (since a namespace is needed for module identification)= . Regards, -scott. -----Original Message----- From: Dale R. Worley =20 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 2:27 PM To: Hakala, Juha E Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU "Hakala, Juha E" writes: > ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: > > http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/index.html > > Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what=20 > is their relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors which=20 > use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might=20 > be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as I=20 > know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a request,=20 > having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities. Wikipedia claims: Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform Resource Identifiers (URIs) through a namespace within the info URI scheme; for example, 20.1000/100 may be written as the URI, info:hdl/20.1000/100. Some Handle System namespaces, such as Digital Object Identifiers, are "info:" URI namespaces in their own right; for example, info:doi/10.1000/182 is another way of writing the handle for the current revision of the DOI Handbook as a URI. > [...] each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding=20 > urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been=20 > registered the DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it=20 > would not be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well, in=20 > e.g. urn:handle: namespace. That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like "doi:10.1000/18= 2", which is official per the International DOI Foundation but "doi" is NOT= a registered URI scheme. So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: info:hdl/10.1000/182 info:doi/10.1000/182 doi:10.1000/182 urn:doi:10.1000/182 Dale From nobody Thu Jul 5 10:35:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E939F130F0F for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:35:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZiYC1VCGy6pq for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9321D130E66 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.252.137.10] (helo=PSB) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fb8AL-000PN9-Oa; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:35:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:35:31 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: Scott Mansfield cc: urn@ietf.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: (juha.hakala@helsinki.fi) <871sci6elu.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 198.252.137.10 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: john-ietf@jck.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:35:43 -0000 A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than dragging it out further. Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the near term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used for are YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will be alert enough to the possibilities of disruption and confusion to be careful about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to consult with this list and others before doing that. For the particular case of DOI, whether I can see any value in having urn:doi:10/.... or not, it as clear that, as of now, the DOI folks don't think so. It is even more clear to me that having urn:doi:10/... and urn:itu:doi:10/... and/or urn:itu:handle:10/... or some other variation would be far worse than picking on of them. Scott, I don't think it is part of the registration or anything this group needs to discuss, but it would be good to be sure the ITU understands that expanding the namespace (or creating different sub-namespaces) in other (non-YANG) directions might raise interesting issues that, if handled badly, could disrupt that Internet and/or discredit the ITU, and that some consultation would be in everyone's best interests. I hope the best way to accomplish that does not require me (as an individual) to drop Houlin ZHOU a note but, if it is necessary, I believe he would read such a note from me. If you wanted to guarantee that, you'd put language into the registration tying its initial use to YANG and requiring re-review for any updates or changes, but I recommend against that, if only because some hothead around the ITU would undoubtedly consider such a provision insulting. For the present, let's not tie this up trying to sort out hypothetical possibilities in which there is no present practical interest. best, john --On Thursday, July 5, 2018 16:26 +0000 Scott Mansfield wrote: > This is what the doi factsheet says... > > "DOI is not registered as a URN namespace, despite fulfilling > all the functional requirements, since URN registration > appears to offer no advantage to the DOI System." > > So any examples they provide of the form urn:doi are not > officially sanctioned, and could cause a conflict if anyone > actually convinced IANA to register doi as a namespace. What > the ITU or DOI do with their parses/resolution services is not > something that is being considered by the ITU's request for an > 'itu' namespace. However, if/when 'itu' becomes a namespace, > then urn:itu:doi would become something that could be used, > but based on what I'm reading in the DOI literature, there > seems little reason for the ITU to pursue that. What the ITU > does need is a valid Namespace that can be used for their YANG > documents (since a namespace is needed for module > identification). > > Regards, > -scott. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale R. Worley > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 2:27 PM > To: Hakala, Juha E > Cc: Scott Mansfield ; > urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU > > "Hakala, Juha E" writes: >> ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: >> >> http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/inde >> x.html >> >> Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if >> so, what is their relation to URNs? In other words, are >> there ITU sectors which use Handles as >> SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might be >> better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as >> I know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a >> request, having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities. > > Wikipedia claims: > > Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform > Resource Identifiers (URIs) through a namespace within the > info URI scheme; for example, 20.1000/100 may be written > as the URI, info:hdl/20.1000/100. Some Handle System > namespaces, such as Digital Object Identifiers, are > "info:" URI namespaces in their own right; for example, > info:doi/10.1000/182 is another way of writing the handle > for the current revision of the DOI Handbook as a URI. > >> [...] each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by >> adding urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such >> NID has not been registered the DOI system or some other >> identifier yet). I assume it would not be too difficult to >> make Handles actionable URNs as well, in e.g. urn:handle: >> namespace. > > That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like > "doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI > Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. > > So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: > > info:hdl/10.1000/182 > info:doi/10.1000/182 > doi:10.1000/182 > urn:doi:10.1000/182 > > Dale > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Thu Jul 5 10:45:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A1B130F0D for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ad92d5a9-8528-4f56-a3ba-08d5e29f0255 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 05 Jul 2018 17:44:50.6734 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 92e84ceb-fbfd-47ab-be52-080c6b87953f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR15MB0581 X-OriginatorOrg: ericsson.com X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpgleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGbG9SFcs0i7aYMZ1PYvWS3/YLKY2f2By YPJYsuQnk8flla+ZA5iiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDKmr9nPWrDcqOLERJcGxq0aXYwcHBICJhLf tsl0MXJyCAkcZZTomC/excgFZH9llFg29wErRALIedIfAJFYzCQx/fIRJhCHRWACs0TDoc/s EJl+Jon5RxsYIVoeMkqcPWoKYrMBrdi6azpYXERATWLenjlgY5kFFCU23Z/CBGILCxhKXJ95 CqrGSOJBYz8ThO0ksa5xHRuIzSKgIvHv8mIwm1cgRmLFsiNQu6YwSaz6awlicwpoS7ROvA82 n1FATOL7qTVMELvEJW49mQ9mSwgISCzZc54ZwhaVePn4H1R9vMTMuXsZIeIKEqeuNkDZshKX 5ndD2VuYJO4+c4CwdSU+TJ0KNcdXYs2E8+wQNtDv02amQYJXS2LbFDWIcLbE/4f3oU6IkXhx 9RHrBEajWUiug7B1JBbs/sQGYWtLLFv4mnkW2MeCEidnPmFZwMiyilG0OLU4KTfdyFgvtSgz ubg4P08vL7VkEyMwXRzc8lt1B+PlN46HGAU4GJV4eCPC7KKFWBPLiitzDzFKcDArifDuDQQK 8aYkVlalFuXHF5XmpBYfYpTmYFES531ovjlKSCA9sSQ1OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwNh5S0qqcJrF 8vetzgKyJtPLy2L/Hqj5VuO69fHRKoO+l6LWChV79Mt7tiloLflXfbrBp1o/64PVr5yUvCPa z5Y53MjJfWUfEvpvW+An80jTPofJK9fphZoVCkttmmmWv/HAiVOi319ejOnf3jTDS0nYx/Fp /vxJzPv9Tp4W7H5fzcX83FfuuhJLcUaioRZzUXEiAOrIgOETAwAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:45:02 -0000 Thanks John, Exactly right on your points below. I don't want to get into hypotheticals= and I was trying to point out what is driving the ITU's request. I like y= our point about providing some text that will ensure the ITU considers the = impact of expanding the use of the namespace outside of the current known u= se-cases. This is something I will have the ITU capture in an update to their interna= l document that the request points to. There are a couple of updates alrea= dy needed to that document. This will raise awareness in the ITU, and provide a pointer for others to s= ee that the ITU will consider impacts when the use of the namespace grows. Regards, -scott. -----Original Message----- From: John C Klensin =20 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 1:36 PM To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than draggin= g it out further. Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and namespace fo= r ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take responsibility for but = T-Sector will managed. At least in the near term, the only things that nam= espace is likely to be used for are YANG-related. In the longer term, I ho= pe the ITU will be alert enough to the possibilities of disruption and conf= usion to be careful about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to con= sult with this list and others before doing that. For the particular case of DOI, whether I can see any value in having urn:d= oi:10/.... or not, it as clear that, as of now, the DOI folks don't think s= o. It is even more clear to me that having urn:doi:10/... and urn:itu:doi:= 10/... and/or urn:itu:handle:10/... or some other variation would be far wo= rse than picking on of them. =20 Scott, I don't think it is part of the registration or anything this group = needs to discuss, but it would be good to be sure the ITU understands that = expanding the namespace (or creating different sub-namespaces) in other (no= n-YANG) directions might raise interesting issues that, if handled badly, c= ould disrupt that Internet and/or discredit the ITU, and that some consulta= tion would be in everyone's best interests. I hope the best way to accompl= ish that does not require me (as an individual) to drop Houlin ZHOU a note but, if it is necessary, I believe h= e would read such a note from me. If you wanted to guarantee that, you'd put language into the registration t= ying its initial use to YANG and requiring re-review for any updates or cha= nges, but I recommend against that, if only because some hothead around the= ITU would undoubtedly consider such a provision insulting. For the present, let's not tie this up trying to sort out hypothetical poss= ibilities in which there is no present practical interest. best, john --On Thursday, July 5, 2018 16:26 +0000 Scott Mansfield wrote: > This is what the doi factsheet says... >=20 > "DOI is not registered as a URN namespace, despite fulfilling all the=20 > functional requirements, since URN registration appears to offer no=20 > advantage to the DOI System." >=20 > So any examples they provide of the form urn:doi are not officially=20 > sanctioned, and could cause a conflict if anyone actually convinced=20 > IANA to register doi as a namespace. What the ITU or DOI do with=20 > their parses/resolution services is not something that is being=20 > considered by the ITU's request for an 'itu' namespace. However,=20 > if/when 'itu' becomes a namespace, then urn:itu:doi would become=20 > something that could be used, but based on what I'm reading in the DOI=20 > literature, there seems little reason for the ITU to pursue that. =20 > What the ITU does need is a valid Namespace that can be used for their=20 > YANG documents (since a namespace is needed for module=20 > identification). >=20 > Regards, > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale R. Worley > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 2:27 PM > To: Hakala, Juha E > Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org=20 > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >=20 > "Hakala, Juha E" writes: >> ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: >>=20 >> http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/inde >> x.html >>=20 >> Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what =20 >> is their relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors=20 >> which use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it=20 >> might be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far=20 >> as I know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a=20 >> request, having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities. >=20 > Wikipedia claims: >=20 > Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform > Resource Identifiers (URIs) through a namespace within the > info URI scheme; for example, 20.1000/100 may be written > as the URI, info:hdl/20.1000/100. Some Handle System > namespaces, such as Digital Object Identifiers, are > "info:" URI namespaces in their own right; for example, > info:doi/10.1000/182 is another way of writing the handle > for the current revision of the DOI Handbook as a URI. >=20 >> [...] each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding =20 >> urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been =20 >> registered the DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it =20 >> would not be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well,=20 >> in e.g. urn:handle: >> namespace. >=20 > That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like=20 > "doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI=20 > Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. >=20 > So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: >=20 > info:hdl/10.1000/182 > info:doi/10.1000/182 > doi:10.1000/182 > urn:doi:10.1000/182 >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Thu Jul 5 10:52:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2766D130F0D for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:52:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BmjDWxu0HuZv for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7453A130E80 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.252.137.10] (helo=PSB) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fb8QX-000POS-8p; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:52:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:52:15 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: Scott Mansfield cc: urn@ietf.org Message-ID: <8B4DF361D74A8722EF1299D2@PSB> In-Reply-To: References: (juha.hakala@helsinki.fi) <871sci6elu.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 198.252.137.10 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: john-ietf@jck.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:52:25 -0000 --On Thursday, July 5, 2018 17:44 +0000 Scott Mansfield wrote: > Thanks John, > > Exactly right on your points below. I don't want to get into > hypotheticals and I was trying to point out what is driving > the ITU's request. I like your point about providing some > text that will ensure the ITU considers the impact of > expanding the use of the namespace outside of the current > known use-cases. > > This is something I will have the ITU capture in an update to > their internal document that the request points to. There are > a couple of updates already needed to that document. And _that_ is, IMO, exactly where it should be... part of their internal norms for how the namespace is managed rather than promises they make to IANA or the IETF. Even if there were no other reasons, if someone in the ITU structure (either volunteer or staff) comes along in a few years and starts thinking about new sub-namespaces, we can be rather confident that document will be consulted while I would be fairly pessimistic about consultation of the IANA site (at least before a pointer to it was found in that document). > This will raise awareness in the ITU, and provide a pointer > for others to see that the ITU will consider impacts when the > use of the namespace grows. Exactly. Thanks john From nobody Thu Jul 5 10:53:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53325130EA5 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=vbRBjw/8; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=taugh.com header.b=Vakn/aDk Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dLp8thuRHzTP for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 667D3130E80 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 10:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 96549 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2018 17:53:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=17923.5b3e5b16.k1807; bh=+1Q+wQuIKOtlih8AjYSmnpNunUv3RNNqAv4rGeWJ8Ic=; b=vbRBjw/8+m9MlDJvo1xcm8NJwcXcuXEYoew93TpmzBp/nUWBraYafByVvV3Lid5AA85I640tLYDq8Z97+I6hdHpBVuzCvS/L+hxEmNvr87gMrlHIK2O5op7/mRL4a09DJPGRlF1jmBxjrSSss17kwXzBU6Xt0da6fALizG6s8z7sKALlLWu/RNBZoFVySjRTnMiKdBuzsMZmkUa/254uYxut452elYrHTgE6ZMeVZ0kB21mMdaHLH82UBSjPFF3j DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=17923.5b3e5b16.k1807; bh=+1Q+wQuIKOtlih8AjYSmnpNunUv3RNNqAv4rGeWJ8Ic=; b=Vakn/aDkssfLdhNnZ94gOVPYOB67ZI+wSPvxcyE5gM3nD0QkX1+tWyYPUIgnXL87SZLvRT7Ms93a2dBw5A3y4zE4LrJBgTDyq93x+MQ61710kjQ/lfYo+a4xa/YPSRzRKog98Xhz3D/00sQmQOT1Bl9O49OBRoiPDtFsDotzhnmCZogTZZSSB3H3y3nfoyX8bhfI9/lJioUz7xQ8zYxTN6lkS8cqC81TGl7QmiZwgM/+lVN6KpAjs3h9pnFo4bN6 Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2/X.509/AEAD) via TCP6; 05 Jul 2018 17:53:25 -0000 Date: 5 Jul 2018 12:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Hakala, Juha E" Cc: "urn@ietf.org" , "worley@ariadne.com" In-Reply-To: References: <871sci6elu.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <20180704200113.6BA8E28D52F4@ary.qy> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 17:53:31 -0000 > Since DOIs and Handles use the same resolver, you can add urn:doi: to > every Handle, and it resolves OK. For instance: > https://hdl.handle.net/urn:doi:10138/236932. Alas, adding urn:handle: to > Handle URI does not work. Since currently the resolver just ignores the > urn:doi: part of the URI, extending similar behaviour to urn:handle: is > trivial (although the Handle service should be smart enough to apply > urn:handle: just to Handles, and urn:doi: just to DOIs). Well, for some version of work. The doi.org proxy is actually quite sophisticated and returns different results depending on want content type the client asks for. The default is a redirect to the object's own URI, but it can also return bibliographic info in a variety of formats, something that document formatters depend on. Does handle.net do that? Since it's not connected to the DOI database it's hard to see how it could unless it's just a double proxy to doi.org. > DOI display is an important issue since "naked" DOI such as 10.100/182 is neither actionable nor (fully reliably) recognizable in plain text. There are a lot of other strings which begin with "10." and contain "/". Crossref solution is technology dependent but may be expected to be actionable in the Web for a long time. I have no objection to making it easier to recognize DOIs (having written the code that creates and maintains the DOIs for RFCs) but be careful of assuming that all ways to write or dereference DOIs are the same. 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For the purposes that are known at this time, the language provides = the scope needed. If the scope changes, an updated request would be made. Thanks, -scott. -----Original Message----- From: Dale R. Worley =20 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:26 PM To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU Scott Mansfield writes: > The word "published" is used in the Abstract but nowhere else. [...] > > > I'm not sure I understand how 'published' is overly restrictive. I=20 > want what the itu puts under the itu NID to be limited to resources=20 > published by the itu (not by other groups). > As written, the ITU can only assign URNs to things that it *publishes*. Whereas many other organizations want to be able to assign URNs to some thi= ngs that they do not publish. > Section 2.5 describes the purpose of this namespace entirely in terms=20 > of Yang module names. [...] > > > Section 2.5 says "including those used in YANG modules", that=20 > indicates that identifiers can be used for other things. YANG is the=20 > example here because that will be the first use of this namespace. > Sorry, I read that section hastily and overlooked that the first sentence p= ermits URNs to be assigned to other things than Yang modules. Nonetheless, I find the emphasis on Yang modules to be surprising. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: helsinki.fi X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: e9d85c34-41e4-4a58-1a65-08d5e30a50a3 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Jul 2018 06:32:58.3446 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 98ae7559-10dc-4288-8e2e-4593e62fe3ee X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB4267 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 06:33:07 -0000 Hello,=20 I am definitely in favour of getting the "itu" registration approved quickl= y. In order to facilitate that, chapter 2.5 Purpose could be truncated into= :=20 "Namespace needed for identifiers defined by ITU, including those used in = YANG data modeling language modules specified in RFC 6020 [2] and RFC 7950 = [3]. " The current chapter 2.5 provides IMO too much detail about YANG, especially= because the syntax has been designed in such a way that ITU can use this n= amespace for wide variety of identifiers / things. Therefore I also do not = think that it is necessary to tell in the registration request that ITU may= register other namespaces in the future (and just like any other organizat= ion, ITU has that privilege anyway).=20 Chapter 2.10 Resolution which says that "no resolution mechanism is intende= d or anticipated" may be based on identifiers used in the YANG context and = lacks the more generic approach apparent in chapter 2.6 (Syntax). Since ITU= may provide actionable identifiers in the future for some other resources = such as standard documents, you could make the wording of 2.10 a bit more r= elaxed (e.g. No resolution mechanism is currently intended or anticipated).= =20 Regarding namespaces for DOI and Handle, the reason why I brought this issu= e up is that the International DOI Foundation (IDF) has been discussing the= possibility of sending a URN namespace registration request. A few months = ago I was asked to participate in the process of writing a draft namespace = registration request for DOI, and a document explaining to IDF the benefits= of registering a URN namespace for DOI. Whether this namespace registratio= n will be sent to the IETF review team (us) depends on politics; in IDF the= re may still be DOI registration agencies which do not see the need for a U= RN namespace for DOI. But there is also at least one DOI registration agenc= y which is using URNs and has registered a URN namespace of its own: EIDR, = Entertainment identifier registry (https://eidr.org/). And these internal d= iscussions within IDF about URN namespace registration are the reason why H= andle service already supports URN:DOIs.=20 I assume that if/when DOI gets a URN namespace, some Handle users may consi= der the possibility of doing the same for Handle. In the DOI community IDF = is the decision maker, but Handle community is more diverse and it is not o= bvious who should make the decision. I think ITU may be asked to do this on= behalf of the DONA Foundation. Be that as it may, Handle will need its own= namespace; urn:itu:handle would not be a practical solution and any consid= erations about possible Handle namespace registration in the future on beha= lf of ITU do not need to slow down the approval of the urn:itu registration= request now.=20 Best,=20 Juha -----Original Message----- From: urn On Behalf Of John C Klensin Sent: torstai 5. hein=E4kuuta 2018 20.36 To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than draggin= g it out further. Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and namespace fo= r ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take responsibility for but = T-Sector will managed. At least in the near term, the only things that nam= espace is likely to be used for are YANG-related. In the longer term, I ho= pe the ITU will be alert enough to the possibilities of disruption and conf= usion to be careful about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to con= sult with this list and others before doing that. For the particular case of DOI, whether I can see any value in having urn:d= oi:10/.... or not, it as clear that, as of now, the DOI folks don't think s= o. It is even more clear to me that having urn:doi:10/... and urn:itu:doi:= 10/... and/or urn:itu:handle:10/... or some other variation would be far wo= rse than picking on of them. =20 Scott, I don't think it is part of the registration or anything this group = needs to discuss, but it would be good to be sure the ITU understands that = expanding the namespace (or creating different sub-namespaces) in other (no= n-YANG) directions might raise interesting issues that, if handled badly, c= ould disrupt that Internet and/or discredit the ITU, and that some consulta= tion would be in everyone's best interests. I hope the best way to accompl= ish that does not require me (as an individual) to drop Houlin ZHOU a note but, if it is necessary, I believe h= e would read such a note from me. If you wanted to guarantee that, you'd put language into the registration t= ying its initial use to YANG and requiring re-review for any updates or cha= nges, but I recommend against that, if only because some hothead around the= ITU would undoubtedly consider such a provision insulting. For the present, let's not tie this up trying to sort out hypothetical poss= ibilities in which there is no present practical interest. best, john --On Thursday, July 5, 2018 16:26 +0000 Scott Mansfield wrote: > This is what the doi factsheet says... >=20 > "DOI is not registered as a URN namespace, despite fulfilling all the=20 > functional requirements, since URN registration appears to offer no=20 > advantage to the DOI System." >=20 > So any examples they provide of the form urn:doi are not officially=20 > sanctioned, and could cause a conflict if anyone actually convinced=20 > IANA to register doi as a namespace. What the ITU or DOI do with=20 > their parses/resolution services is not something that is being=20 > considered by the ITU's request for an 'itu' namespace. However,=20 > if/when 'itu' becomes a namespace, then urn:itu:doi would become=20 > something that could be used, but based on what I'm reading in the DOI=20 > literature, there seems little reason for the ITU to pursue that. =20 > What the ITU does need is a valid Namespace that can be used for their=20 > YANG documents (since a namespace is needed for module=20 > identification). >=20 > Regards, > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale R. Worley > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 2:27 PM > To: Hakala, Juha E > Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org=20 > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >=20 > "Hakala, Juha E" writes: >> ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: >>=20 >> http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/inde >> x.html >>=20 >> Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what =20 >> is their relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors=20 >> which use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it=20 >> might be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far=20 >> as I know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a=20 >> request, having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities. >=20 > Wikipedia claims: >=20 > Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform > Resource Identifiers (URIs) through a namespace within the > info URI scheme; for example, 20.1000/100 may be written > as the URI, info:hdl/20.1000/100. Some Handle System > namespaces, such as Digital Object Identifiers, are > "info:" URI namespaces in their own right; for example, > info:doi/10.1000/182 is another way of writing the handle > for the current revision of the DOI Handbook as a URI. >=20 >> [...] each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding =20 >> urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been =20 >> registered the DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it =20 >> would not be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well,=20 >> in e.g. urn:handle: >> namespace. >=20 > That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like=20 > "doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI=20 > Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. >=20 > So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: >=20 > info:hdl/10.1000/182 > info:doi/10.1000/182 > doi:10.1000/182 > urn:doi:10.1000/182 >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn _______________________________________________ urn mailing list urn@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Fri Jul 6 12:24:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D65612F1AB for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 12:24:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.31 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 70323374-ed57-4e7e-883d-08d5e375fa6e X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 Jul 2018 19:23:39.3508 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 92e84ceb-fbfd-47ab-be52-080c6b87953f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR15MB0154 X-OriginatorOrg: ericsson.com X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFuplleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGbG9UvfxQftog+ld3Batl/6wWTR9ame3 mNr8gcmB2aN/5X52jyVLfjJ5XF75mjmAOYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY82EuUwF67wrXk0UaWB8 ZtPFyMkhIWAi8avxJiuILSRwlFHi2Q2/LkYuIPsro8SbVd3sEInFTBI7FlmD2CwCE5glDjzg gyiawCSx6+AWdgjnIaPEmSfPwTrYgMZu3TWdsYuRg0NEIETi0aR0kDCzgKLEpvtTmEBsYQFD ieszTzGC2CICRhIPGvuZIGw3ict/TjJCLFOReDb7GNhIXoEYib6ma2wQu54xScz8tJYNJMEp ECtxev8rsCJGATGJ76fWMEEsE5e49WQ+E8SbAhJL9pxnhrBFJV4+/scKUR8vMXPuXkaIuILE qasNULasxKX53YwgyyQEtjBJzO94yAKR0JX4MHUq1CBfiQ/r9zNDFAF9v3bmN1aIhJbEqj9z oexsib4vf9gh7FyJRd2dUBvkJFb1PmSZwGg4C8mxELaexI2pU9ggbG2JZQtfM88Ch4CgxMmZ T1gWMLKsYhQtTi0uzk03MtJLLcpMLi7Oz9PLSy3ZxAhMJAe3/LbawXjwueMhRgEORiUe3kNr 7KOFWBPLiitzDzFKcDArifBq1QOFeFMSK6tSi/Lji0pzUosPMUpzsCiJ8zqlWUQJCaQnlqRm p6YWpBbBZJk4OKUaGFfrWb098nDV3k01VvvO8yWl1zdPfrNjzqa74peeTbFfd+o6n0PMO2s1 3XdvLUw6+4UfyJb1rPhkNuWr8rkdbaZHHW4qllfdU9+6RWOezM1Dm04fbhDOUo+8aKYZWx57 /Py93fV/VHvlTu2dnLfExT629pLrw6BvyxiYN3/TDtwjLy9oOatqVokSS3FGoqEWc1FxIgCV WBz5IAMAAA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:24:24 -0000 I don't mind simplifying, but the detail was added because of comments I re= ceived from this very list on the ONF request I made last month. I don't w= ant to take out the information, to have someone else ask me to add it back= in. YANG is what the namespace will be used for first. The YANG examples are i= n the ITU's document, so if there is consensus among the URN list to make t= his request to IANA simple --- I'm all for that. It is easy to delete mate= rial. The edits to 2.10 are ok with me. I agree with your analysis of the doi/handle situation. Regards, -scott. -----Original Message----- From: Hakala, Juha E =20 Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 2:33 AM To: John C Klensin ; Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: RE: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU Hello,=20 I am definitely in favour of getting the "itu" registration approved quickl= y. In order to facilitate that, chapter 2.5 Purpose could be truncated into= :=20 "Namespace needed for identifiers defined by ITU, including those used in = YANG data modeling language modules specified in RFC 6020 [2] and RFC 7950 = [3]. " The current chapter 2.5 provides IMO too much detail about YANG, especially= because the syntax has been designed in such a way that ITU can use this n= amespace for wide variety of identifiers / things. Therefore I also do not = think that it is necessary to tell in the registration request that ITU may= register other namespaces in the future (and just like any other organizat= ion, ITU has that privilege anyway).=20 Chapter 2.10 Resolution which says that "no resolution mechanism is intende= d or anticipated" may be based on identifiers used in the YANG context and = lacks the more generic approach apparent in chapter 2.6 (Syntax). Since ITU= may provide actionable identifiers in the future for some other resources = such as standard documents, you could make the wording of 2.10 a bit more r= elaxed (e.g. No resolution mechanism is currently intended or anticipated).= =20 Regarding namespaces for DOI and Handle, the reason why I brought this issu= e up is that the International DOI Foundation (IDF) has been discussing the= possibility of sending a URN namespace registration request. A few months = ago I was asked to participate in the process of writing a draft namespace = registration request for DOI, and a document explaining to IDF the benefits= of registering a URN namespace for DOI. Whether this namespace registratio= n will be sent to the IETF review team (us) depends on politics; in IDF the= re may still be DOI registration agencies which do not see the need for a U= RN namespace for DOI. But there is also at least one DOI registration agenc= y which is using URNs and has registered a URN namespace of its own: EIDR, = Entertainment identifier registry (https://eidr.org/). And these internal d= iscussions within IDF about URN namespace registration are the reason why H= andle service already supports URN:DOIs.=20 I assume that if/when DOI gets a URN namespace, some Handle users may consi= der the possibility of doing the same for Handle. In the DOI community IDF = is the decision maker, but Handle community is more diverse and it is not o= bvious who should make the decision. I think ITU may be asked to do this on= behalf of the DONA Foundation. Be that as it may, Handle will need its own= namespace; urn:itu:handle would not be a practical solution and any consid= erations about possible Handle namespace registration in the future on beha= lf of ITU do not need to slow down the approval of the urn:itu registration= request now.=20 Best,=20 Juha -----Original Message----- From: urn On Behalf Of John C Klensin Sent: torstai 5. hein=E4kuuta 2018 20.36 To: Scott Mansfield Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than draggin= g it out further. Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and namespace fo= r ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take responsibility for but = T-Sector will managed. At least in the near term, the only things that nam= espace is likely to be used for are YANG-related. In the longer term, I ho= pe the ITU will be alert enough to the possibilities of disruption and conf= usion to be careful about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to con= sult with this list and others before doing that. For the particular case of DOI, whether I can see any value in having urn:d= oi:10/.... or not, it as clear that, as of now, the DOI folks don't think s= o. It is even more clear to me that having urn:doi:10/... and urn:itu:doi:= 10/... and/or urn:itu:handle:10/... or some other variation would be far wo= rse than picking on of them. =20 Scott, I don't think it is part of the registration or anything this group = needs to discuss, but it would be good to be sure the ITU understands that = expanding the namespace (or creating different sub-namespaces) in other (no= n-YANG) directions might raise interesting issues that, if handled badly, c= ould disrupt that Internet and/or discredit the ITU, and that some consulta= tion would be in everyone's best interests. I hope the best way to accompl= ish that does not require me (as an individual) to drop Houlin ZHOU a note but, if it is necessary, I believe h= e would read such a note from me. If you wanted to guarantee that, you'd put language into the registration t= ying its initial use to YANG and requiring re-review for any updates or cha= nges, but I recommend against that, if only because some hothead around the= ITU would undoubtedly consider such a provision insulting. For the present, let's not tie this up trying to sort out hypothetical poss= ibilities in which there is no present practical interest. best, john --On Thursday, July 5, 2018 16:26 +0000 Scott Mansfield wrote: > This is what the doi factsheet says... >=20 > "DOI is not registered as a URN namespace, despite fulfilling all the=20 > functional requirements, since URN registration appears to offer no=20 > advantage to the DOI System." >=20 > So any examples they provide of the form urn:doi are not officially=20 > sanctioned, and could cause a conflict if anyone actually convinced=20 > IANA to register doi as a namespace. What the ITU or DOI do with=20 > their parses/resolution services is not something that is being=20 > considered by the ITU's request for an 'itu' namespace. However,=20 > if/when 'itu' becomes a namespace, then urn:itu:doi would become=20 > something that could be used, but based on what I'm reading in the DOI=20 > literature, there seems little reason for the ITU to pursue that. > What the ITU does need is a valid Namespace that can be used for their=20 > YANG documents (since a namespace is needed for module=20 > identification). >=20 > Regards, > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale R. Worley > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 2:27 PM > To: Hakala, Juha E > Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >=20 > "Hakala, Juha E" writes: >> ITU is closely involved with the Handle system: >>=20 >> http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/inde >> x.html >>=20 >> Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what=20 >> is their relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors=20 >> which use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it=20 >> might be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far=20 >> as I know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a=20 >> request, having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities. >=20 > Wikipedia claims: >=20 > Handles can be used natively. or expressed as Uniform > Resource Identifiers (URIs) through a namespace within the > info URI scheme; for example, 20.1000/100 may be written > as the URI, info:hdl/20.1000/100. Some Handle System > namespaces, such as Digital Object Identifiers, are > "info:" URI namespaces in their own right; for example, > info:doi/10.1000/182 is another way of writing the handle > for the current revision of the DOI Handbook as a URI. >=20 >> [...] each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding >> urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been=20 >> registered the DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it=20 >> would not be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well,=20 >> in e.g. urn:handle: >> namespace. >=20 > That's interesting, in that DOIs have a defined format like=20 > "doi:10.1000/182", which is official per the International DOI=20 > Foundation but "doi" is NOT a registered URI scheme. >=20 > So these are equivalent, to the degree that they are defined: >=20 > info:hdl/10.1000/182 > info:doi/10.1000/182 > doi:10.1000/182 > urn:doi:10.1000/182 >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn _______________________________________________ urn mailing list urn@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Fri Jul 6 19:36:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A62130E10 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:36:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PL7xN619bq1H for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:44]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2970B130DCB for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:36:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.103]) by resqmta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id bcRcfXnFBmsGAbd50fWRAC; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:36:10 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id bd4yfLJ7yZEp6bd4zf3t1D; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:36:09 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w672a8ic014889; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:36:08 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w672a7Ng014884; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:36:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: "John Levine" Cc: urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20180704200113.6BA8E28D52F4@ary.qy> (johnl@taugh.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: <877em74vs8.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfIYvr7NOMuQhFwz8gfh5a9OuHUOEn0p7OiS364vpcZnNFG5vZ00TQmGhQd13pQJqLSRR6+u/stpSoQOX7UmAKyE2xkeX7ZejOrsUtX/1zenq+uWWYFrl BIzxECf9zf7yCLOCQNMkon8m181ExCHOCtMEcpZreFb2tKTXoyZJuJLls4ZNvtF7viRupvx1fI0lw8+ioSMnwIUVVH2QfKyhB9E+5hMh+YhOwvr+myJNe53D wJD0IZ2eDs56G2+wJo8hYqeLIIW2lowb2JbPdukiqWQ= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:36:13 -0000 "John Levine" writes: > The info registry closed down in 2010 and although they have old > definitions for info:hdl and info:doi, I'm not aware of any > implementations. Strictly speaking, it appears that the registry still exists, it's just not accepting new entries. Dale From nobody Fri Jul 6 19:39:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D451F1277C8 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:39:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=n0+u48ny; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=taugh.com header.b=FZR4/eKs Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OneaKXvkKllO for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D03D5130DCB for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 64733 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2018 02:39:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=fcdb.5b4027db.k1807; bh=Wwx1ev4QauxczfeH7c1vNx+xhCJ83SRMNO2tfRBHF+8=; b=n0+u48nyqfz083+pcOJS6T4jV1HN4hypaScsytiyWBTS1dca6+UVXSbQiltpmGK3Um72UP6mi5/4Rm6Naz2NgIp9X2LuuKYSQ/3kP3H6PJKJcStIgIZsvtHr4E5nYLAbmntcNCMv5POMBTxmBggDpxLc3SwlJzB05j8lSecDD7lElVofyqlNf8nx+yu626aWhFtG/7hHZSPG/atjxQrgxOK7rDWvgAhvwI9bTOK7qGP58/HCjsdOJSHZWzQH0axM DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=fcdb.5b4027db.k1807; bh=Wwx1ev4QauxczfeH7c1vNx+xhCJ83SRMNO2tfRBHF+8=; b=FZR4/eKsW5zyysr99H/XE0s5ios0C9uvwaHS3+QwKFnQAswDZj7FOonuo9RBqFH8y45KsFRk6XrB+b7j2uT8YWOzW9X7PTu8vRS77naIUsWE60byVPhj8Gy0F+MFLY9IKhUOmz7s59S/eYO7LSf5Yx2LVTOW+12rDQSIHecyJUYuHssdhj587RgVnhG0foewdDAknYXPbvyF16uJLZagaZyHiBi3H4lTGhimNbUwBnZUSPFyyI2OZyepozfvmrzz Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2/X.509/AEAD) via TCP6; 07 Jul 2018 02:39:23 -0000 Date: 6 Jul 2018 22:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Dale R. Worley" Cc: urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <877em74vs8.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> References: <877em74vs8.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:39:28 -0000 >> The info registry closed down in 2010 and although they have old >> definitions for info:hdl and info:doi, I'm not aware of any >> implementations. > > Strictly speaking, it appears that the registry still exists, it's just > not accepting new entries. You're right, but I don't get the impression that there are any production browsers that implement any of it so it hardly matters. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly From nobody Fri Jul 6 19:41:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0DA130DFA for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:41:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2IEhUaXPUyLJ for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D148C1277C8 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 19:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.101]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id bd3ZfSxAHCL7sbdA3fdp7Z; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:41:23 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id bdA2frzP8AkphbdA2fv6KR; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:41:23 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w672fL8B015467; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:41:21 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w672fKbA015464; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 22:41:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: John C Klensin Cc: scott.mansfield@ericsson.com, urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: (john-ietf@jck.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 22:41:20 -0400 Message-ID: <874lhb4vjj.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEqFAixz7uK8xEStpc+ofBqHszitBuqfliwSwhai8rp1YP/89Z6ULMKwTAoIR46XkH0ydB3jq4RBLjHaefvXbWVLksA/5CBy5jVNchewEiBOY6odF7S5 AdXTLkKuXJT4hvkfD6HK6atJuaRACqqRWczgknNVte4YlnyS8bZ401tfoFYW497I1+xkJ5u4QF3+4GfvgsslVZn2nn+Q5fx2Pihrh0Swf1vCjqby4aLrmwkd gNjT2cL6kHXpacpDkMTrNrKXYO4cSit4jTt6ovCEgmYbUotr9E3linaWnZYcVUJ3Nrc+AwuhBKhlCw3OxHK++w== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 02:41:27 -0000 John C Klensin writes: > A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather > than dragging it out further. > > Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and > namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take > responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the > near term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used > for are YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will > be alert enough to the possibilities of disruption and confusion > to be careful about what other sub-namespaces might be used an > to consult with this list and others before doing that. I think I'm echoing John here when I say that in this conversation we've touched on a lot of complicated tangential issues, but none of them are relevant to approving this request. There have been a bunch of concrete "issues" raised, but as far as I can tell, all of them are of the form "Have you considered that alternative XYZ might be better?" And it appears that the people behind the registration either have already considered those questions or are currently resolving them. So it seems to me that all we're waiting for is for Scott to provide the final version of the registration request (and aligning that ITU internal document). Am I mistaken? 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I will update the internal ITU document, g= et it published on the ITU site and then send a formal request based on the= information provided previously. Thanks to everyone on the URN list for providing valuable comments and help= ing me through this process. Regards, -scott. -----Original Message----- From: Dale R. Worley =20 Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 10:41 PM To: John C Klensin Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU John C Klensin writes: > A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than=20 > dragging it out further. > > Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and=20 > namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take=20 > responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the near=20 > term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used for are=20 > YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will be alert enough=20 > to the possibilities of disruption and confusion to be careful about=20 > what other sub-namespaces might be used an to consult with this list=20 > and others before doing that. I think I'm echoing John here when I say that in this conversation we've to= uched on a lot of complicated tangential issues, but none of them are relev= ant to approving this request. There have been a bunch of concrete "issues" raised, but as far as I can te= ll, all of them are of the form "Have you considered that alternative XYZ m= ight be better?" And it appears that the people behind the registration ei= ther have already considered those questions or are currently resolving the= m. So it seems to me that all we're waiting for is for Scott to provide the fi= nal version of the registration request (and aligning that ITU internal doc= ument). Am I mistaken? 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Worley" , John C Klensin Cc: "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <8b6f6ab4-da1f-ec06-e485-3f5aa4007529@mozilla.com> Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU References: <874lhb4vjj.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: --1y7O9LYFqL2Vbzwfv45OgNxDmP7JiGmYC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1. Thanks, Scott! Peter On 7/9/18 3:56 PM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > Thanks Dale, >=20 > I have the same interpretation. I will update the internal ITU documen= t, get it published on the ITU site and then send a formal request based = on the information provided previously. >=20 > Thanks to everyone on the URN list for providing valuable comments and = helping me through this process. >=20 > Regards, > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale R. Worley =20 > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 10:41 PM > To: John C Klensin > Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >=20 > John C Klensin writes: >> A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than=20 >> dragging it out further. >> >> Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and=20 >> namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take=20 >> responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the near=20 >> term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used for are=20 >> YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will be alert enough= =20 >> to the possibilities of disruption and confusion to be careful about=20 >> what other sub-namespaces might be used an to consult with this list=20 >> and others before doing that. >=20 > I think I'm echoing John here when I say that in this conversation we'v= e touched on a lot of complicated tangential issues, but none of them are= relevant to approving this request. >=20 > There have been a bunch of concrete "issues" raised, but as far as I ca= n tell, all of them are of the form "Have you considered that alternative= XYZ might be better?" And it appears that the people behind the registr= ation either have already considered those questions or are currently res= olving them. >=20 > So it seems to me that all we're waiting for is for Scott to provide th= e final version of the registration request (and aligning that ITU intern= al document). >=20 > Am I mistaken? >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 --1y7O9LYFqL2Vbzwfv45OgNxDmP7JiGmYC-- --mCgXh1ctoEGS76anzMAYjEWynzazeBsc1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENVUj07j078lgnb70ZWGMGH9oFKkFAltD22kACgkQZWGMGH9o FKkGvg/7BpQPH3Kbu6ys+rJldqC+0T8vZ6DqxyQARgCHdoj1JwCBY8MBO3hwmVq/ ZOB0KRzDfiaaQdPNnB/P4aQDKY79vTreT6kx8s+NEvAJdeNG/SvFbwdlq3jCPtgK LjMGQLvSwrnspqAbdW/D+fasPN66m4b5TjSOjWljB4u3JQTa3Hkg9DlmZbAZg0XV fjAVECYuEw0ag2AK8/UGJZc3TdQiq16j/P024w25LbOWeYXnGdYh47rZfg4PMPpG u6JaNuPQ6g2mcRC+dlm8hPXGCsyz0+DaT8+EE9RuRUS1/eBpStzZ4rZFwF6NeNEf 26EWADqLIkOfyrjsQdiHd4ad6ppccBa2kNlrPZO4AY+35Cn+EBK2c/wEn9l3bZEQ TFrb11d0JzRF9eJaUehs5oIAr2zB89mVsm0p5FRqxrewRnZ/x9QJlFCrStY0hXc8 NuJNO7OPd/KeUFyJhXO/8SBHK13LoSnoPQSgaSsScETzHhbyYK3RSvFKLjDcgkmC YBbZzMqxkLPT9FO5S5gWaFZ8l5jyHYvSw6BapBt8FF7ncCvyEsdSQ1XAO+YUWw3S wnIwl0FGlUI7N9946hY9k+NyR7OlZl3c56KkJ41T1RaZr4k5T2E8IJ02z2snvwGR D1mLppHjsTRDpgsVrzuFBE+O7Do0ySFNEQlV4oT/HbZ92QqAuc4= =3Y6V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mCgXh1ctoEGS76anzMAYjEWynzazeBsc1-- From elzi@kb.dk Mon Jul 16 01:08:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001D130DE0 for ; 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Mon, 16 Jul 2018 01:08:37 -0700 Received: from EXCH-02.kb.dk (exch-02.kb.dk [10.5.0.112]) by post.kb.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id F058F87099 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EXCH-02.kb.dk (10.5.0.112) by EXCH-02.kb.dk (10.5.0.112) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.1415.2; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:08:36 +0200 Received: from EXCH-02.kb.dk ([fe80::b595:1a1f:5666:b29]) by EXCH-02.kb.dk ([fe80::b595:1a1f:5666:b29%7]) with mapi id 15.01.1415.002; Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:08:36 +0200 From: Eld Zierau To: "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers - version 3 Thread-Index: AdQc3DGKkm3uj4RtRcGB26kVRboqjA== Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:08:36 +0000 Message-ID: <76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82d@kb.dk> Accept-Language: da-DK, en-US Content-Language: da-DK X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.226.229.95] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_006_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Outbound-IP: 130.226.226.11 X-Env-From: elzi@kb.dk X-Proto: esmtp X-Revdns: post-03.kb.dk X-HELO: post.kb.dk X-TLS: X-Authenticated_ID: X-PolicySMART: 10573177 X-Virus-Status: Scanned by VirusSMART (c) X-Virus-Status: Scanned by VirusSMART (s) Archived-At: Subject: [urn] Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers - version 3 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:11:08 -0000 --_006_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_ Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_"; type="multipart/alternative" --_005_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_" --_000_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please note that I have updated the suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web I= dentifiers with the following changes: Prototypes for resolving a PWID and getting PWIDs for a web page has been a= dded and explained. Furthermore, it has been made more clear where the PWID= URN makes a difference and "closed archives" have to "archives with restri= cted access". It is available as version 3 from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pw= id-urn-specification/, and it is attached to this email as a pdf. Best regards, Eld ----- Eld Zierau Digital Preservation Specialist PhD The Royal Danish Library Digital Cultural Heritage P.O. Box 2149, 1016 Copenhagen K Ph. +45 9132 4690 Email: elzi@kb.dk From: Eld Zierau Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 5:40 PM To: urn@ietf.org Subject: Sv: Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers Please note that I have updated the suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web I= Dentifiers in order to make it more clear where it makes a difference. It = can still be found via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-spec= ification/ (also attached as pdf) Best regards, Eld Eld Zierau IT-konsulent | Digital Preservation Specialist Det Kgl. Bibliotek | Royal Danish Library Digital kulturarv | Digital Cultural Heritage P.O. Box 2149 | DK-1016 K=F8benhavn K tel +45 3347 4690 | Fax +45 3393 2218 | elzi@kb.dk | www= .kb.dk Bes=F8gsadresse | Visiting address | S=F8ren Kierkegaards Plads 1 ________________________________ Fra: Eld Zierau Sendt: 8. december 2017 16:41 Til: urn@ietf.org Emne: Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers Please find attached document with specification of the Suggested PWID URN = for Persistent Web IDentifiers, which I have uploaded as an Internet-Draft = (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/) draft-pwid-urn-specification-02 - A Persistent Web IDentifier (PWID) URN Na= mespace datatracker.ietf.org A Persistent Web IDentifier (PWID) URN Namespace (Internet-Draft, 2018) And please let me know if I have understood the procedures right about mail= ing this email and whether I have included all the information needed. Best regards, Eld Eld Zierau IT-konsulent Digital Preservation Specialist Afdelingen for Digital Pligtaflevering og Bevaring Digital Legal Deposit and Preservation +4591324690 elzi@kb.dk [cid:image001.png@01D41CEC.F52BB950] Det Kgl. Bibliotek Royal Danish Library S=F8ren Kierkegaards Plads 1 DK-1221 K=F8benhavn K +45 3347 4747 CVR 2898 8842 EAN 5798 000 795297 --_000_76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82dkbdk_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

P= lease note that I have updated the suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web Id= entifiers with the following changes:

Prototypes for resolving a PWID and getting PWIDs for= a web page has been added and explained. Furthermore, it has been made mor= e clear where the PWID URN makes a difference and "closed archives" have to "archives with restricted acc= ess”.

I= t is available as version 3 from = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/, and it = is attached to this email as a pdf.

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B= est regards, Eld

 

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Eld Zierau

Digital Preservation Specialist PhD<= /o:p>

The Royal Danish Library

Digital Cultural Heritage

P.O. Box 2149, 1016 Copenhagen K

Ph. +45 9132 4690

Email: elzi@kb.dk<= /a>

 

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From: Eld Zi= erau
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 5:40 PM
To: urn@ietf.org
Subject: Sv: Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers<= /o:p>

 

P= lease note that I have updated the suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web ID= entifiers in order to make it more clear where it makes a difference. = It can still be found via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/ (also at= tached as pdf)

B= est regards, Eld

Eld Zierau
IT-konsulent | Digital Preservation= Specialist

Det Kgl. Bibliotek | Royal Danish Li= brary
Digital kulturarv | Digital Cultural= Heritage
P.O. Box 2149 | DK-1016 K=F8benhavn = K
tel +45 3347 4690 | Fax +45 = 3393 2218 | elzi@kb.dk | www.kb.dk

Bes=F8gsadresse | Visiting address |= S=F8ren Kierkegaards Plads 1

Fra: Eld Zie= rau
Sendt: 8. december 2017 16:41
Til: urn@ietf.org
Emne: Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers

 

Please find attached document with specification of the Sug= gested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers, which I have uploaded as an= Internet-Draft (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-p= wid-urn-specification/)

datatracker.ietf.org

A Persistent Web IDentifier (PWID) URN Namespace (Internet-Draft= , 2018)

And please let me know if I have understood the procedures = right about mailing this email and whether I have included all the informat= ion needed.

Best regards, Eld

 

 

Eld Zierau
IT-konsulent
Digital Preservation Specialist

 

Afdelingen for Digital Pligtaflevering og Bevaring

Digital Legal Deposit and Preservation

 

+4591324690

elzi@kb.dk

 

 

 

Det Kgl. Bibliotek

Royal Danish Library

 

S=F8ren Kierkegaards Plads 1

DK-1221 K=F8benhavn K

+45 3347 4747

 

CVR 2898 8842

EAN 5798 000 795297

 

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Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 08:34:17 -0000 --_000_HE1PR07MB3097434EFEE45DF54C608891FA5D0HE1PR07MB3097eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Eld Zierau has sent today a revised namespace registration request for PWID= to urn@ietf.org. The first version arrived in Decembe= r 8th 2017. However, I don't remember having seen Eld's message back then, = and as far as I remember correctly we have not processed the PWID template = which is an Internet draft. Eld did remind me about her request in February= , and I forwarded her email to Lars, but my email archive does not tell if = he responded. Be that as it may, I should have been more active in getting = this review started earlier - sorry. Eld's original I-D was renewed in June; the brand new July version is -03 a= nd can be found from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/ Versions are not radically different from one another, but the latest one -= which I have not red yet - adds examples based on a prototype urn:pwid res= olver under development in Denmark. There is one sentence in the draft that I want to comment. Eld writes that: "The textual version of the PWID is also suggested in a textual form in a d= raft of the revision of the ISO 690 reference standard." I am the editor of ISO 690 (Guidelines for bibliographic references and cit= ations to information resources). It is currently under revision, but the p= rocess is in the early stages (working draft). The draft standard shall not= contain examples for URN:PWIDs as long as the URN namespace has not been f= ormally registered. Some examples for PWIDs may however be added, since the= importance of citing web archives is growing and we need not only guidelin= es on how to do that, but also increased stability the usage of persistent = identifiers can provide. I cannot claim to understand PWID fully since I don't know enough about web= archiving. But I wonder if PWID were one of those namespaces which might b= enefit from the usage of r-component. If coverage-spec were not part of the= identifier but included in r-component, it would be easier to add new func= tionality in the future and use similar functionality, when relevant, to ot= her kind of resources. Eld is a digital preservation specialist from the Royal Danish Library, wit= h a lot of experience in web archiving. Any questions about PWID should be = sent to her at elzi@kb.dk; alas, she may not respond quickly since she is o= n summer vacation until 6th of August. All the best, Juha --_000_HE1PR07MB3097434EFEE45DF54C608891FA5D0HE1PR07MB3097eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello all,

 

Eld Zierau has sent today a rev= ised namespace registration request for PWID to urn@ietf.org. The first version arrived= in December 8th 2017. However, I don’t remember having se= en Eld’s message back then, and as far as I remember correctly we hav= e not processed the PWID template which is an Internet draft. Eld did remind me about her request in February, and I for= warded her email to Lars, but my email archive does not tell if he responde= d. Be that as it may, I should have been more active in getting this review= started earlier – sorry.

 

Eld’s original I-D was re= newed in June; the brand new July version is -03 and can be found from

 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/do= c/draft-pwid-urn-specification/

 

Versions are not radically diff= erent from one another, but the latest one – which I have not red yet= – adds examples based on a prototype urn:pwid resolver under develop= ment in Denmark.

 

There is one sentence in the dr= aft that I want to comment. Eld writes that:

 

“The textual version of t= he PWID is also suggested in a textual form in a draft of the revision of t= he ISO 690 reference standard.”

 

I am the editor of ISO 690 (Gui= delines for bibliographic references and citations to information resources= ). It is currently under revision, but the process is in the early stages (= working draft). The draft standard shall not contain examples for URN:PWIDs as long as the URN namespace has not be= en formally registered. Some examples for PWIDs may however be added, since= the importance of citing web archives is growing and we need not only guid= elines on how to do that, but also increased stability the usage of persistent identifiers can provide. =

 

I cannot claim to understand PW= ID fully since I don’t know enough about web archiving. But I wonder = if PWID were one of those namespaces which might benefit from the usage of = r-component. If coverage-spec were not part of the identifier but included in r-component, it would be easier to add n= ew functionality in the future and use similar functionality, when relevant= , to other kind of resources.      

 

Eld is a digital preservation s= pecialist from the Royal Danish Library, with a lot of experience in web ar= chiving. Any questions about PWID should be sent to her at elzi@kb.dk; alas= , she may not respond quickly since she is on summer vacation until 6th of August.

 

All the best,

 

Juha  

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aXN0aW5mby91cm4NCj4gPg0KDQo= From nobody Wed Jul 18 23:57:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68F130E90 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:57:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vO_BUF7l2RQs for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.dnb.de (prodfix-out0.dnb.de [193.175.100.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 759C6130E9D for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smg1.ad.ddb.de (unknown [10.69.63.232]) by mail.dnb.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A382644062AD; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:56:56 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: 0a453fe7-199ff700000025db-e7-5b5036381f7f Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE [10.69.63.244]) by smg1.ad.ddb.de (DNB Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id E2.F7.09691.836305B5; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:56:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.669.32; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:56:55 +0200 Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7]) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7%4]) with mapi id 15.01.0669.032; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:56:55 +0200 From: "Svensson, Lars" To: "Hakala, Juha E" CC: "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) Thread-Index: AdQc2XjNuuR6QZ4CThGA7MigPPBL+gCTYiRw Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 06:56:55 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.69.12.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA12TeUgUURzHfTOjO2776jlerzVLF6Qo2g7N7L7LwFIoQbJrbEd3c123mV1R IzCVos3MpIi2GywrikSiiw5aClsrpf4oskhMafEgu6CTat7Oro39953P732/vy/vMSzN/dHo WYvNIYg23moI0zLaZQu+TE5LzcqdWvUzLq3y025N2qGqD9RCKn3/+bua9IaG71QWtU471yRY LSWCOGX+Zq35Sftnxu7VlL5+8Z6qAD9CXSCcxSgFD1T4wojmkAfglupUF9DKuhvg1mOXGOXj CsCuxhbKBTRsGJqIB83kfBQy4rONrwDRNErEzZ0HKaIjUTqu9R5mlDMr8dfWy6GKno67PzTT RDMoCXsPdvv3QjQDf2urDnRYjzvanmqIDkcbsO/jGb8GKB43NbXTyq5Y3Pzua6A/wg23FI5R NO7t/h3gCfhqR2WYcn4qHmw7GfBOwmdP99PK3gjsPdLD1IEYtyrWrbK4VRa3ynIKMBfASKmo YJqRNxlNpjyjSWgGyrv4roPaZ0s9ALHAoIMDIatzuVC+RCor8oBMljJEw/J2GY3MKzaVmXnJ vEl0WgXJEAVbkrNyOTiE85zWQsNYuHecTGOHqOSU7JYtlmKntMkpWuX3YmnZetubKVtNfFm5 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request for PW= ID to > mailto:urn@ietf.org. The first version arrived in December 8th 2017. Howe= ver, I don=92t > remember having seen Eld=92s message back then, and as far as I remember = correctly > we have not processed the PWID template which is an Internet draft. Eld d= id remind > me about her request in February, and I forwarded her email to Lars, but = my email > archive does not tell if he responded. Be that as it may, I should have b= een more > active in getting this review started earlier =96 sorry. No, I didn't see this registration request on the list in December (and can= not seem to find it in the list archive, either). I'll have a closer look at it as soon as possible and consult with our web = archiving specialists. Best, Lars From nobody Thu Jul 19 02:40:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24357130F1B for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 02:39:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.622 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.622 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=0.979, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WTaMGmlR9noN for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 02:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.frobbit.se (mail.frobbit.se [IPv6:2a02:80:3ffe::176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7DBB130F14 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [169.254.147.240] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:1:0:cc19:7c50:f3e1:99ff]) by mail.frobbit.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 637F42008A; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:39:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "Patrik =?utf-8?b?RsOkbHRzdHLDtm0=?=" To: "Hakala, Juha E" Cc: urn@ietf.org Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:39:51 +0200 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6116) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_MailMate_7E74419E-083E-4633-8B28-A92DEE531484_="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 09:39:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 3156 and 4880). --=_MailMate_7E74419E-083E-4633-8B28-A92DEE531484_= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, FWIW 1, the acronym PWID is already used for pseudo wires. See for exampl= e RFC 6667. Whether that collision is a problem or not is not something I= can judge. FWIW 2, I have also not seen any earlier request to the urn@ietf.org mail= ing list, although I have seen the I-D posted. Patrik On 16 Jul 2018, at 10:34, Hakala, Juha E wrote: > Hello all, > > Eld Zierau has sent today a revised namespace registration request for = PWID to urn@ietf.org. The first version arrived in D= ecember 8th 2017. However, I don't remember having seen Eld's message bac= k then, and as far as I remember correctly we have not processed the PWID= template which is an Internet draft. Eld did remind me about her request= in February, and I forwarded her email to Lars, but my email archive doe= s not tell if he responded. Be that as it may, I should have been more ac= tive in getting this review started earlier - sorry. > > Eld's original I-D was renewed in June; the brand new July version is -= 03 and can be found from > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/ > > Versions are not radically different from one another, but the latest o= ne - which I have not red yet - adds examples based on a prototype urn:pw= id resolver under development in Denmark. > > There is one sentence in the draft that I want to comment. Eld writes t= hat: > > "The textual version of the PWID is also suggested in a textual form in= a draft of the revision of the ISO 690 reference standard." > > I am the editor of ISO 690 (Guidelines for bibliographic references and= citations to information resources). It is currently under revision, but= the process is in the early stages (working draft). The draft standard s= hall not contain examples for URN:PWIDs as long as the URN namespace has = not been formally registered. Some examples for PWIDs may however be adde= d, since the importance of citing web archives is growing and we need not= only guidelines on how to do that, but also increased stability the usag= e of persistent identifiers can provide. > > I cannot claim to understand PWID fully since I don't know enough about= web archiving. But I wonder if PWID were one of those namespaces which m= ight benefit from the usage of r-component. If coverage-spec were not par= t of the identifier but included in r-component, it would be easier to ad= d new functionality in the future and use similar functionality, when rel= evant, to other kind of resources. > > Eld is a digital preservation specialist from the Royal Danish Library,= with a lot of experience in web archiving. Any questions about PWID shou= ld be sent to her at elzi@kb.dk; alas, she may not respond quickly since = she is on summer vacation until 6th of August. > > All the best, > > Juha > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn --=_MailMate_7E74419E-083E-4633-8B28-A92DEE531484_= Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iG0EARECAC0WIQRUH/cJI8i4DDUU3qWsxpsaC4jXzQUCW1BcZw8ccGFmQGZyb2Ji aXQuc2UACgkQrMabGguI180Y4gCgjLB5UEfZvNDpbst+mSueglxFUl0An0InwMov OEtfWiz6EgfH6I/eGfMZ =IHbO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_MailMate_7E74419E-083E-4633-8B28-A92DEE531484_=-- From nobody Thu Jul 19 04:09:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB2131030 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:09:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pEvZdDN5xETd for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (ns.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFA12130F04 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=JcK-T100) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fg6oC-000I9W-3Z; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:09:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:09:19 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: =?UTF-8?Q?Patrik_F=C3=A4ltstr=C3=B6m?= , "Hakala, Juha E" cc: urn@ietf.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: klensin@jck.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 11:09:35 -0000 If we can figure out how to do so, we should ask W3C to comment on this, not to control whether the registration occurs, but to get input on the specification to the authors and try to generally improve things. I think Mark Nottingham is still the official liaison -- if he is not on this list (which he may be) could someone who sees him today or tomorrow call it to his attention and ask him to alert the relevant people. thanks, john --On Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:39 +0200 Patrik = F=C3=A4ltstr=C3=B6m wrote: > Hi, >=20 > FWIW 1, the acronym PWID is already used for pseudo wires. See > for example RFC 6667. Whether that collision is a problem or > not is not something I can judge. >=20 > FWIW 2, I have also not seen any earlier request to the > urn@ietf.org mailing list, although I have seen the I-D = posted. >=20 > Patrik >=20 > On 16 Jul 2018, at 10:34, Hakala, Juha E wrote: >=20 >> Hello all, >>=20 >> Eld Zierau has sent today a revised namespace registration >> request for PWID to urn@ietf.org. The >> first version arrived in December 8th 2017. However, I don't >> remember having seen Eld's message back then, and as far as I >> remember correctly we have not processed the PWID template >> which is an Internet draft. Eld did remind me about her >> request in February, and I forwarded her email to Lars, but >> my email archive does not tell if he responded. Be that as it >> may, I should have been more active in getting this review >> started earlier - sorry. >>=20 >> Eld's original I-D was renewed in June; the brand new July >> version is -03 and can be found from >>=20 >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/ >>=20 >> Versions are not radically different from one another, but >> the latest one - which I have not red yet - adds examples >> based on a prototype urn:pwid resolver under development in >> Denmark. >>=20 >> There is one sentence in the draft that I want to comment. >> Eld writes that: >>=20 >> "The textual version of the PWID is also suggested in a >> textual form in a draft of the revision of the ISO 690 >> reference standard." >>=20 >> I am the editor of ISO 690 (Guidelines for bibliographic >> references and citations to information resources). It is >> currently under revision, but the process is in the early >> stages (working draft). The draft standard shall not contain >> examples for URN:PWIDs as long as the URN namespace has not >> been formally registered. Some examples for PWIDs may however >> be added, since the importance of citing web archives is >> growing and we need not only guidelines on how to do that, >> but also increased stability the usage of persistent >> identifiers can provide. >>=20 >> I cannot claim to understand PWID fully since I don't know >> enough about web archiving. But I wonder if PWID were one of >> those namespaces which might benefit from the usage of >> r-component. If coverage-spec were not part of the identifier >> but included in r-component, it would be easier to add new >> functionality in the future and use similar functionality, >> when relevant, to other kind of resources. >>=20 >> Eld is a digital preservation specialist from the Royal >> Danish Library, with a lot of experience in web archiving. >> Any questions about PWID should be sent to her at elzi@kb.dk; >> alas, she may not respond quickly since she is on summer >> vacation until 6th of August. >>=20 >> All the best, >>=20 >> Juha >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> urn mailing list >> urn@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Thu Jul 19 05:20:32 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2482130F90 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:20:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xT1m8zAb276T for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seine.is.ed.ac.uk (seine.is.ed.ac.uk [129.215.17.202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816D3127332 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crunchie.inf.ed.ac.uk (crunchie.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.202.41]) by seine.is.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id w6JCK3sI030487; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:20:03 +0100 Received: from troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.25.32]) by crunchie.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6JCK2xf021071; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:20:02 +0100 Received: from troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6JCK2Wd031684; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:20:02 +0100 Received: (from ht@localhost) by troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w6JCK0xP031674; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:20:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f To: John C Klensin Cc: Patrik =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=E4ltstr=F6m?= , "Hakala\, Juha E" , urn@ietf.org References: From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:20:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John C. Klensin's message of "Thu\, 19 Jul 2018 07\:09\:19 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1012 (Gnus v5.10.12) XEmacs/21.5-b34 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at seine.is.ed.ac.uk with MIMEDefang 2.84, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 129.215.17.202 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:20:30 -0000 John C Klensin writes: > If we can figure out how to do so, we should ask W3C to comment > on this, not to control whether the registration occurs, but to > get input on the specification to the authors and try to > generally improve things. I think Mark Nottingham is still the > official liaison -- if he is not on this list (which he may be) > could someone who sees him today or tomorrow call it to his > attention and ask him to alert the relevant people. I'm _not_ the official liaison, but I'll try to have a look and also to pass this by some people I know in the persistent identifier community. ht -- Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail from me _always_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam] From nobody Thu Jul 19 05:30:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52341294D7 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:30:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j1hxcr6OVb6s for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsa2.jck.com (bsa2.jck.com [70.88.254.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ED47130DCF for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=JcK-T100) by bsa2.jck.com with esmtp (Exim 4.82 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fg84i-000IKV-3p; Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:30:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:30:27 -0400 From: John C Klensin To: "Henry S. Thompson" cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Patrik_F=C3=A4ltstr=C3=B6m?= , "Hakala, Juha E" , urn@ietf.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: ::1 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: klensin@jck.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on bsa2.jck.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 12:30:42 -0000 Henry, Thanks. Again,, my goal is not to get a conclusion of "good" or "bad" but to try to get the documentation and the registration to reflect as much context and perspective as might be useful to a reader or someone considering using the system. In addition and in parallel with a discussion that is going on in parallel, if there are multiple proposals being developed in this area, I'd like to be sure that everyone is aware of everyone else's work. best, john --On Thursday, July 19, 2018 13:20 +0100 "Henry S. Thompson" wrote: > John C Klensin writes: > >> If we can figure out how to do so, we should ask W3C to >> comment on this, not to control whether the registration >> occurs, but to get input on the specification to the authors >> and try to generally improve things. I think Mark Nottingham >> is still the official liaison -- if he is not on this list >> (which he may be) could someone who sees him today or >> tomorrow call it to his attention and ask him to alert the >> relevant people. > > I'm _not_ the official liaison, but I'll try to have a look > and also to pass this by some people I know in the persistent > identifier community. > > ht From nobody Fri Jul 20 06:18:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FB11294D7 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LOO-aVZHIsbl for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.dnb.de (prodfix-out0.dnb.de [193.175.100.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6256B126CC7 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 06:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smg1.ad.ddb.de (unknown [10.69.63.232]) by mail.dnb.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F404556B96 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:18:29 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: 0a453fe7-199ff700000025db-5d-5b51e11bd769 Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE [10.69.63.244]) by smg1.ad.ddb.de (DNB Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 9B.DE.09691.B11E15B5; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.669.32; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:18:17 +0200 Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7]) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7%4]) with mapi id 15.01.0669.032; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 15:18:17 +0200 From: "Svensson, Lars" To: "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) Thread-Index: AdQgLB0UKnbVeUqjQ8aDJFMwew/Tfg== Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:18:17 +0000 Message-ID: <54e1003e8da743d5832c4fa8c3904ba0@dnb.de> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.69.12.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrPLsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXC5Wr/RVf6YWC0wa436hZTmz8wOTB6LFny kymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEro2viC8aCbyIVS/b8YGpgvCzQxcjJISFgItHes4oVxBYSOMQo 8f+HThcjF5D9mFHi7p89bBDOFkaJ3nu/2LsY2TnYBLQk3meA1IsIKErse9bEDmILC4RIPD62 ngUiHioxfdNzdghbT+Lohs9gcRYBVYlre3cxg9i8AqYSEz82gcUZBWQlNmw4DxZnFhCX2PTs OyvEbQISS/ZAxCUERCVePv4HFVeQ2HariQ2i3kDi/bn5UL3aEssWvoaaLyhxcuYTlgmMwrOQ jJ2FpGUWkpZZSFoWMLKsYuQrzk031EtM0UtJSdJLSd3ECAnp5zsY+y65HGIU4GBU4uHVuRMQ LcSaWFZcmXuI0Z+DSUmU99JFoBBfUn5KZUZicUZ8UWlOarGSCG/r3MBoIV64cFJpTraSHG+3 PFCxOFy0uLS4IDM5M7+0OL60KAcYFxzMQK0T3gIV8aYkVlalFuVDDDzEKM3BoiTO+3IfQ4SQ QHpiSWp2ampBahFMNoKDQ0mC9/R9oJ2CRanpqRVpmTklMGmgPqXtQBkBZBmwgxR5M876RQtJ IUugu4mJg/MQow8HD9Bh3A9AfiouSMwtzkyHmi3MKzYPKMoDEwWbK8sbpwD0gxhMENXMU4zB UuK8cSDHCoBUZJTmwd0qJcbbDHISP5IEyEgpBd62QqAGSSRxVFNfMXoCo0iYVxPkSB5gfkG4 UYjXZhdQkBsqCHaiDG8WyImiUDF0s3yAcSvC21MA9nBJYgmyh98XgD0MFYV6+BVIUAwmiGqc VANjVrs2y7xEp4IWma8y1XMWJy9ismLW3KAcs6tMLuexSvijHJ4jXI9Y+KZNZ/ykND/cT8N+ 7wPGjlM/p/v90sx/vJHXbcvXFx2mK2rPRWxLD1Jft6f6Jpv+2hkfNj298DXuaGojw0PVWU2P PAw+uoV2Cd7N3v3yu9ki+VDJBRxzOU3qD3v+V4hSYinOSDTUYi4qTgQAOLhBslIEAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for Persistent Web Identifier (PWID) X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:18:36 -0000 All, On Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:30 PM, urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Be= half Of John C Klensin wrote: > Thanks. Again,, my goal is not to get a conclusion of "good" or > "bad" but to try to get the documentation and the registration > to reflect as much context and perspective as might be useful to > a reader or someone considering using the system. In addition > and in parallel with a discussion that is going on in parallel, > if there are multiple proposals being developed in this area, > I'd like to be sure that everyone is aware of everyone else's > work. The feedback I got from our web archiving experts is that the Royal Danish = Library currently seems to be the only institution planning to implement th= is URN. That of course doesn't mean it wouldn't make sense to register the = namespace, but since the plan is to have resolution services in place it wo= uld be important that potential implementers (i. e. institutions running we= b archives that might want to help their users by adding the urn:pwid ident= ifier to each archived resource in order to assist the citation management)= give feedback. One potential danger I see is that although the I-D talks about "precise id= entification of a resource in an arbitrary web Archive", there is no mandat= ed way to create the crucial information "Identification of web archive" wh= en coining a urn:pwid. The only information in the I-D is the recommendatio= n to use the archive's domain name, which can be hard for non-technical use= rs (am I supposed to use archive-it.org or www.archive-it.org?). A registry= of archive names doesn't seem useful, so I don't know exactly what to sugg= est here... Best, Lars =20 > --On Thursday, July 19, 2018 13:20 +0100 "Henry S. Thompson" > wrote: >=20 > > John C Klensin writes: > > > >> If we can figure out how to do so, we should ask W3C to > >> comment on this, not to control whether the registration > >> occurs, but to get input on the specification to the authors > >> and try to generally improve things. I think Mark Nottingham > >> is still the official liaison -- if he is not on this list > >> (which he may be) could someone who sees him today or > >> tomorrow call it to his attention and ask him to alert the > >> relevant people. > > > > I'm _not_ the official liaison, but I'll try to have a look > > and also to pass this by some people I know in the persistent > > identifier community. > > > > ht >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Fri Jul 20 20:12:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79903130E83 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:12:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.685 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.685 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBCCGju2ceJV for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84223130E6A for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 20:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id gfWufUoVwYsfTgiJMf8nr9; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:12:00 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id giJKf10tfTGiGgiJLfhouV; Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:11:59 +0000 Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6L3BwJE005521; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:11:58 -0400 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w6L3Bvub005518; Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:11:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: Eld Zierau Cc: urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82d@kb.dk> (elzi@kb.dk) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:11:57 -0400 Message-ID: <87va99qo3m.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEO2/cDv0jz10l2YB8fzl0+ZgCTW5N2kUkrfXuAQ2FykSd1f5E3iG76L7oeWd9D8qvOJTGpbnwMn8MfoRINKPy7XbLmO7sJ3noMwYEedlX/zhgw/FxMR sG/9EotfJM1NNqH6v3CZ9whOcQOyFgkhZkOTVsM6aKOsmCm+YYEKQht+kxj6bz2Of0gMOrT7K7nbop/d5OjVApGj5CpCwmy9z9yhXkM4E67glMceRGm9cYDu SBXfrVssaoaE3puYzqPanQ== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers - version 3 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:12:04 -0000 Comments on this draft: I am by no means an archivist, so my comments will be largely technical. The draft seems to me to be prolix, giving a lot of discussion of details that are not reflected in the URN proposal itself. A careful editing will probably fix this. A major component of pwid-urn is archive-id. My assumption is that the archive-id is the top-level component and defines what abstract "archive" the URN is a reference into. And that the "archive" defines the exact interpretation of archival-tine, coverage-spec, and archived-item. However, in order for PWID URNs to be unambiguous, it must be unambiguous what "archive" a given archive-id refers to. The draft suggests "it is recommended to use the web domain as the identifier for the web archive". What if an institution decides to create PWID URNs that use an archive-id which is a domain name that the institution does not own? As written, the draft does not forbid *me* from creating PWID URNs with archive-id "netarkivet.dk". In regard to archival-time, the draft states "The 'archival-time' [...] can therefore be specified at any of the levels of granularity as described in [W3CDTF]." However, W3CDTF gives a number of formats for time designations, and calls those formats "granularities", whereas this draft allows only one format. I suspect that a more careful description of the meaning of the quoted sentence would fix this problem. The syntax assumes that knowing archive-id, archival-time, coverage-spec, and archived-item (the archived URI) will always be sufficient to specify exactly the resource in question. However, it seems likely that special situations will arise when two distinct resources will have attributes that are similar enough that the distinction between them is not easily expressed in terms of archive-id, archival-time, coverage-spec, or archived URI. In this case, additional information is needed to create an exact reference, and the URN syntax needs to have an expansion facility to allow this. archived-item can be a URI, and a URI can contain the characters '?', '#', '[', and ']', among others. However, those 4 characters may not appear in the NSS part of a URN. Note that the first 2 of these characters are used in URIs only to introduce the "query" and "fragment" parts, but as the draft is written, the archived-item URI is not restricted to not having a query or fragment part. 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Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FB9OymHGtBijYr6AgcLHFnxpoJVMUocdk" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:36:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FB9OymHGtBijYr6AgcLHFnxpoJVMUocdk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="J4EJ6fpjSUJ2jKigabvKHtXUTDKQONMxI"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: Scott Mansfield , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <9413b419-71a6-d808-25d3-17299db3ca1a@mozilla.com> Subject: Re: [urn] URN Formal request for URN for ITU References: In-Reply-To: --J4EJ6fpjSUJ2jKigabvKHtXUTDKQONMxI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Scott. We (the expert reviewers) failed to alert IANA. I'll do that now. Peter On 7/26/18 8:04 AM, Scott Mansfield wrote: > Gentle nudge... Anything else I need to do? I haven't seen a ticket f= rom IANA. But I have been at SDO meetings for three weeks straight and m= ight have missed something. >=20 > Many thanks! > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Mansfield=20 > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 7:48 AM > To: urn@ietf.org > Cc: 'Peter Saint-Andre' ; Dale R. Worley ; John C Klensin > Subject: Formal request for URN for ITU >=20 > The updates to the ITU document have been made and posted on the ITU-T = website. >=20 > Please consider this the formal request for the namespace. >=20 > The request is attached and the updated ITU document can be found here = --> http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/Documents/ITU-URN-Management.pdf=20 >=20 > Regards, > -scott. >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Saint-Andre > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 6:02 PM > To: Scott Mansfield ; Dale R. Worley ; John C Klensin > Cc: urn@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >=20 > +1. Thanks, Scott! >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 7/9/18 3:56 PM, Scott Mansfield wrote: >> Thanks Dale, >> >> I have the same interpretation. I will update the internal ITU docume= nt, get it published on the ITU site and then send a formal request based= on the information provided previously. >> >> Thanks to everyone on the URN list for providing valuable comments and= helping me through this process. >> >> Regards, >> -scott. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dale R. Worley >> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 10:41 PM >> To: John C Klensin >> Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >> >> John C Klensin writes: >>> A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than=20 >>> dragging it out further. >>> >>> Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and=20 >>> namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take=20 >>> responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the near=20 >>> term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used for are=20 >>> YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will be alert=20 >>> enough to the possibilities of disruption and confusion to be careful= =20 >>> about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to consult with this= =20 >>> list and others before doing that. >> >> I think I'm echoing John here when I say that in this conversation we'= ve touched on a lot of complicated tangential issues, but none of them ar= e relevant to approving this request. >> >> There have been a bunch of concrete "issues" raised, but as far as I c= an tell, all of them are of the form "Have you considered that alternativ= e XYZ might be better?" And it appears that the people behind the regist= ration either have already considered those questions or are currently re= solving them. >> >> So it seems to me that all we're waiting for is for Scott to provide t= he final version of the registration request (and aligning that ITU inter= nal document). >> >> Am I mistaken? >> >> Dale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> urn mailing list >> urn@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >=20 --J4EJ6fpjSUJ2jKigabvKHtXUTDKQONMxI-- --FB9OymHGtBijYr6AgcLHFnxpoJVMUocdk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENVUj07j078lgnb70ZWGMGH9oFKkFAltZ+HAACgkQZWGMGH9o FKmOIQ/8Dqc5ir0EeqHCgSt80/QjuQlfpJpdJc58vwpECjq+svMYw+28CgxA4Jif WMDsMKRTcFeFOxtyM+xtD8nr6ZcihN1tsJh1IxXb660NPLtKs4SWJh1+1OCcpdut bZbAcuGI9v/T97C2Dfybekr8AvS53YBUnNe8Jp2TxayoOVbH3JXf6whFY04DTXIn tyydqn+z1oF3uRrgwI9oLE5W2awdyBngHmteWml19lVcQXKNNS4ajuQ5XHaXgkwZ Yx5OT2JgAtiSeQAymUmsi8QKBbhHSQBtWlsBCPytz/jSaIR8ssKILBo8oCcGeJ4X /6HMnA43BpS0sTTxK6L3p+hmWOU4w4OdZSqGPt0qIFlw/ZItIO+r+8pF6U5UYYSu 7/fcKwt8E0MjjESwYPITG5l8FTWtYTF5kVgSFHOE8V7Bn66mqqYsLXXmryO9C6LT 3mQWjscKQDU6083CJiHLM1409VY/KKcKZzwYLcp15P1ySOIY0OewIMK9xhUDrhhe ED5dL2NT0H17G5QoSnDnjD/szQoMqWRu3BmhYyuW5zerWNXOchISwW5bT8FT6dQc wfQ5GXeHOkNXuoCm7u8vzKsFX4cuwbU/Vsri2ZMTDn6KcF3zctP7dzCgSoGxHHy2 Vcw27ZoiPYV0J4uCnlEORi0M9I4TalyTkT7jw5ppb76D6UTBgq8= =maxe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FB9OymHGtBijYr6AgcLHFnxpoJVMUocdk-- From nobody Thu Jul 26 13:53:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D3B130E58 for ; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9413b419-71a6-d808-25d3-17299db3ca1a@mozilla.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ae3N3jR5lOvM2Iu1aIvF7VTw1TJlI0ARt" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] URN Formal request for URN for ITU X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 20:53:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ae3N3jR5lOvM2Iu1aIvF7VTw1TJlI0ARt Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IUlFsOe1C5mIIMqAuNptUZqxLZ0Edoic0"; protected-headers="v1" From: Peter Saint-Andre To: Scott Mansfield , "urn@ietf.org" Message-ID: <945390fe-6ac6-1f55-add3-3f6a7abe228f@mozilla.com> Subject: Re: [urn] URN Formal request for URN for ITU References: <9413b419-71a6-d808-25d3-17299db3ca1a@mozilla.com> In-Reply-To: <9413b419-71a6-d808-25d3-17299db3ca1a@mozilla.com> --IUlFsOe1C5mIIMqAuNptUZqxLZ0Edoic0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Done: http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/itu On 7/26/18 10:36 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Thanks, Scott. We (the expert reviewers) failed to alert IANA. I'll do > that now. >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 7/26/18 8:04 AM, Scott Mansfield wrote: >> Gentle nudge... Anything else I need to do? I haven't seen a ticket = from IANA. But I have been at SDO meetings for three weeks straight and = might have missed something. >> >> Many thanks! >> -scott. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Mansfield=20 >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 7:48 AM >> To: urn@ietf.org >> Cc: 'Peter Saint-Andre' ; Dale R. Worley ; John C Klensin >> Subject: Formal request for URN for ITU >> >> The updates to the ITU document have been made and posted on the ITU-T= website. >> >> Please consider this the formal request for the namespace. >> >> The request is attached and the updated ITU document can be found here= --> http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-T/Documents/ITU-URN-Management.pdf=20 >> >> Regards, >> -scott. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Saint-Andre >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 6:02 PM >> To: Scott Mansfield ; Dale R. Worley ; John C Klensin >> Cc: urn@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >> >> +1. Thanks, Scott! >> >> Peter >> >> On 7/9/18 3:56 PM, Scott Mansfield wrote: >>> Thanks Dale, >>> >>> I have the same interpretation. I will update the internal ITU docum= ent, get it published on the ITU site and then send a formal request base= d on the information provided previously. >>> >>> Thanks to everyone on the URN list for providing valuable comments an= d helping me through this process. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -scott. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dale R. Worley >>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 10:41 PM >>> To: John C Klensin >>> Cc: Scott Mansfield ; urn@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU >>> >>> John C Klensin writes: >>>> A suggestion, partially in support of getting this done rather than = >>>> dragging it out further. >>>> >>>> Let's take the request at face value: The ITU wants an NID and=20 >>>> namespace for ITU uses, which the General Secretariat will take=20 >>>> responsibility for but T-Sector will managed. At least in the near = >>>> term, the only things that namespace is likely to be used for are=20 >>>> YANG-related. In the longer term, I hope the ITU will be alert=20 >>>> enough to the possibilities of disruption and confusion to be carefu= l=20 >>>> about what other sub-namespaces might be used an to consult with thi= s=20 >>>> list and others before doing that. >>> >>> I think I'm echoing John here when I say that in this conversation we= 've touched on a lot of complicated tangential issues, but none of them a= re relevant to approving this request. >>> >>> There have been a bunch of concrete "issues" raised, but as far as I = can tell, all of them are of the form "Have you considered that alternati= ve XYZ might be better?" And it appears that the people behind the regis= tration either have already considered those questions or are currently r= esolving them. >>> >>> So it seems to me that all we're waiting for is for Scott to provide = the final version of the registration request (and aligning that ITU inte= rnal document). >>> >>> Am I mistaken? >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> urn mailing list >>> urn@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> urn mailing list >> urn@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >> >=20 --IUlFsOe1C5mIIMqAuNptUZqxLZ0Edoic0-- --ae3N3jR5lOvM2Iu1aIvF7VTw1TJlI0ARt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEENVUj07j078lgnb70ZWGMGH9oFKkFAltaNMUACgkQZWGMGH9o FKkwbg/+M8ZtTlvaS6fmN3efKNqXRY5AE2FS75hfM+DmILRRWo45X2pWVGfEKn65 mE7ZVvesLYxqy1H7KC/+WE4egQC6b21Hbab5wMH4zBRovUecNTvHdWdT5PZA7I3y lXoOUo2P8q7CT2TqH/o9m52UY3GGwqfhIgfTiJBV+FirHePLNYCwMVdoH1Bizedj kNXvuuZPfJFJaHH1VV/0sV5O93ZShWbvQRA3r1gWY9Acz7yjlK4jdeLEg743DkhT PnYiq+L8k6YR9A4UIdHqwigmUOSXh9LyCBbp+sOgioIfpRf8jkmnDwrrE+OcBBpF iv1iydGLV+KgAyV2ZDR7LivSiTM/QdhkoSc7EZqy9Vihf6zsFAnlLqXRVV0n2+lt NQy2/7Klz3o8X8/bYAzg6veTcMZQ7w6gOjjK4+lddIyMtIo3tgxrQCzCYDyavkYC 39nO40gAl8xg7ZLMio+5Nl0HFINmODtnsX7wzHPn77aXUP6cVy6TD7Qvwq4BZTmj cD4X7R96yyLyAttOX6RS6gh9jxJ5tsK8Xp0oyZQVXb6Tagx/yEn/34SC6SRXKjSJ 7T5JNLBhv2nkNu5nU2i2chuHYW7q3tsv5tkWz4Ekna77wV+IL44H6J9WErntEj3b nn/hywN7PovEEoUOGNk2JDU0emnzm8wEh4tfBjlqee/IJhl5rao= =J4g6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ae3N3jR5lOvM2Iu1aIvF7VTw1TJlI0ARt-- From nobody Fri Jul 27 01:57:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F361130DF4 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:57:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zgs3AcEaIhk4 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seine.is.ed.ac.uk (seine.is.ed.ac.uk [129.215.17.202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE335130DE3 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crunchie.inf.ed.ac.uk (crunchie.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.202.41]) by seine.is.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id w6R8vZ6d004013; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:57:35 +0100 Received: from troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.25.32]) by crunchie.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6R8vXI9005249; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:57:33 +0100 Received: from troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6R8vXbV023079; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:57:33 +0100 Received: (from ht@localhost) by troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id w6R8vXKb023078; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:57:33 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: troutbeck.inf.ed.ac.uk: ht set sender to ht@inf.ed.ac.uk using -f To: Eld Zierau Cc: "urn\@ietf.org" References: <76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82d@kb.dk> From: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson) In-Reply-To: <76f19e6c8892422d9d9475549218d82d@kb.dk> (Eld Zierau's message of "Mon\, 16 Jul 2018 08\:08\:36 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1012 (Gnus v5.10.12) XEmacs/21.5-b34 (linux) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:57:33 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Edinburgh-Scanned: at seine.is.ed.ac.uk with MIMEDefang 2.84, Sophie, Sophos Anti-Virus, Clam AntiVirus X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 129.215.17.202 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers - version 3 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:57:43 -0000 Eld Zierau writes: > Please note that I have updated the suggested PWID URN for Persistent > Web Identifiers with the following changes: > > ... > > It is available as version 3 from > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/, and it > is attached to this email as a pdf. [Before my comments, please note that I don't believe it's best practice to attach drafts in mail to this list -- your original was classified as spam as a result of the attachment, and I only found out about it as a result of Juha's mail.] Much of what follows is a critique of the requirements analysis and the presumed use cases, rather than the specifics of the namespace itself, and the overall conclusion is negative. This is a bit unusual, in that I wouldn't normally bother with an extended critique whose TL;DR would be "It doesn't seem likely to me that this will solve anyone's problems". After all, if it doesn't solve anyone's problems, no-one will use it, let the 'market' decide, right? This might be so, for a narrowly focussed namespace targetting a specialist community. But this proposal has _very_ large-scale use in view. _And_, the legitimacy of discourse around various aspects of 'persistent' reference has been so compromised by flawed analyses and failed solutions that there is actually real reputational risk for the urn infrastructure itself from yet another example, which I'm afraid I think this is, particularly given its very high aims. So, I'm sorry but for these reasons, and the many specific problems discussed below, I don't personally see a future for this document. ============ Specific comments, by section *Purpose* As noted above, the goal stated in the open paragraph is very ambitious. The only parts of the argument that follows that I can make sense of, as to why the proposed scheme is needed, consist of two mistaken and/or unsupported high-level claims: 1) Citations of web-hosted resources should refer to archives, not to the resources themselves; 2) Citation of archived material needs help to be sufficiently 'precise'. The first is at best contentious as a general claim, and even in cases where an archive reference is preferred, why packaging it in a PWID urn will add value is not explained. After all, if I know that what I want to cite is available in some archive, it's because I've found it there, in which case I already _know_ the URI I can use to retrieve it. More on this when below when we come to the question of uniqueness. The second surely applies to any kind of citation at all, and seems to depend on a confusion between web identity, media type and the ontology of citable things and loci associated with them -- all of FRBR lurks just around the corner here. Just because some representation is hosted on the Web does not make it easier (or harder) than it ever was to make clear in a citation what part/aspect/property of what you _name_ in a citation is what you actual are _referring to_. More on this below when we come to the 'coverage-spec'. ------------ One more specific issue with this section "The precision regards both regards precise reference where there can be no doubt about that you have the correct web material as well as precision about what is actually referred by the reference (e.g. is it the page or the whole website)" There's nothing in the proposal which follows to back up the "you have the correct web material" claim, and the subsequent inventory of 8 'type[s] of archived item[s]' is clearly not sufficient to unambiguously determine "what is actually referred [to] by the reference". *Syntax* I see no problems in the ABNF. ------------ The definitions of the 'coverage-spec' values are hopelessly underspecified, and heterogenous. The 'part'/'page' distinction is particularly unclear/non-obvious/ambiguous/medai-type dependent. *Assignment* The initial claim here and its subsequent gloss taken together don't hold up: "The PWID URNs does not have to be assigned by an authority, as they are based on the information created at the time of archiving:" "In other words: the PWID URNs are created independently, but following an algorithm that itself guarantees uniqueness." On a strict reading of "uniqueness" (i.e. a one-to-one relation between items and PWIDs), this amounts to a claim that _any_ 3rd party considering _any_ item in _any_ archive will always construct the _same_ PWID. This reading is obviously false: the presence of the the two "+( unreserved )" expansions in the ABNF amount to a _guarantee_ that there will be multiple distinct PWIDs for the same item. RFC8141 does not require one-to-one relations between URNs, even URNs within the same namespace. But it does require, in the case of "URNs . . . created independently" that they be created "following an algorithm that itself guarantees uniqueness". The underspecification of the 'coverage-spec' already alluded to above makes independent _and_ inconsistently understood coinages of identical PWIDs not just possible but likely. Consider for example urn:pwid:web.archive.org:2018-01-01T17:03:53Z:part:http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ One person might coin this to mean the text/html character sequence which was served from http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ (my homepage at the University of Edinburgh) at the beginning of 2018, whereas someone else might coin it to mean the text/html character sequence you get from the Web Archive today if you do an http GET on https://web.archive.org/web/20180101170353/http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/, which are different in important ways. In general, it seems that knowing whether to use 'part' or 'page' would depend on a detailed understanding of the media type of the retrieved representation, which the average creator of a citation is unlikely to have. ------------- Some of this is corrigible, but only at the expense of a vast increase in detail and clarity. Others not-so-much, insofar as so much is _necessarily_ left underspecified, to allow for _anything_ to be considered as an archive ('archive-id' value), with the consequent requirement to allow for arbitrarily idiosyncratic internal naming mechanisms ('archived-item' value). I'm curious in this connection to wonder if we actually have any URN namespaces where assignment is done "independently but following an algorithm that itself guarantees uniqueness"? Ah, there are registrations for urn:uuid:, which qualifies, and urn:oid:, which sort of does. OK, is there such a namespace in active use? Which provides for resolution, at least in principle? A crucial point here is that in the OID case a urn:oid:... carries a chain of responsibility with it. If you run across one, you know how to find out who takes responsibility for every level in the tree that's involved in interpreting it. In the UUID case, a urn:uuid: doesn't travel well/at all, so the question doesn't arise. But for PWIDs, if I find one I have _no way_ to figure out who's responsible, or whom I can ask for clarification, or whom to blame if it doesn't appear to 'work'. ---------------- I don't see what the intended value of the discussion of the "SOLR-Wayback tool" is for the spec. *Interoperability* The above comments about ambiguity/lack of identity apply here too: if different implementors interpret e.g. a coverage-spec of 'subsite' differently, their resolvers will not interoperate. *Resolution* None of this is very much to the point. In particular, it completely ignores the precedents set by doi.org, identifiers.org and n2t.net (https://doi.org/10.1038/sdata.2018.95 exemplifies the first and its content discusses the second and third). ============== In conclusion, I think a useful way to think about this proposal is as a misguided attempt to define a urn type which _is_ a citation. This makes sense of PWID's 3rd party nature, and clarifies that the archive-id and -time, the embedded URI and the coverage spec are just a pretty arbitrary, certainly impoverished, subset of what you would expect to find in a _real_ citation. Trying to pack a citation into a URN just doesn't make sense to me. Neither does trying to determine exactly the _right_ subset of citations of web-hosted resources to pack up in order to be both useful and unambiguous. (There is work underway in various venues (see e.g. [1]) to _objectify_ citations and give PIDs to _those_, which might address at least some of the goals of this work.) ht [1] http://sched.co/DJ3P -- Henry S. 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Thompson Sent: perjantai 27. hein=E4kuuta 2018 11.58 To: Eld Zierau Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] Suggested PWID URN for Persistent Web IDentifiers - vers= ion 3 The only parts of the argument that follows that I can make sense of, as to= why the proposed scheme is needed, consist of two mistaken and/or unsuppor= ted high-level claims: 1) Citations of web-hosted resources should refer to archives, not to the resources themselves; 2) Citation of archived material needs help to be sufficiently 'precise'. The first is at best contentious as a general claim, and even in cases wher= e an archive reference is preferred, why packaging it in a PWID urn will ad= d value is not explained. After all, if I know that what I want to cite is= available in some archive, it's because I've found it there, in which case= I already _know_ the URI I can use to retrieve it. More on this when belo= w when we come to the question of uniqueness. Juha: ISO TC 46/SC 9 is currently revising ISO 690 (Guidelines for bibliogr= aphic references and citations to information resources). One of the challe= nges is how to deal with reference rot, which consists of link rot (404) an= d content drift (retrieved documents change). A large percentage of all Int= ernet resources suffer from these problems.=20 Eld has been most helpful in writing the Annex that discusses the usage of = Web archives in detail, and the current version is based on what she has wr= itten, with two important exceptions:=20 - I don't think that referring just to a copy of the cited resource in a We= b archive is always the best solution. Archive reference only must be used = when the resource is dynamic (say, https://www.ed.ac.uk/) and a specific ve= rsion is cited. But when the page is supposed to be persistent (e.g. https= ://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI) the added value provided by the archive l= ink may be modest, because the archived copy may not always be exactly the = same, and web archives themselves may not last forever. The current draft o= f ISO 690 (which is still only a working draft) does promote the use of web= archives, but not as the only solution. And if web archives are used, util= ization of Memento is something that should be considered since it provides= some level of protection to disappearance of web archives. =20 - the current ISO 690 draft does not mention PWID. There are three reasons = for this. First, and most importantly, PWID does not (yet) have a registere= d URN namespace. An ISO standard cannot refer to PWIDs as long as namespace= registration has not been completed. And IMO it is not obvious that it wil= l be completed. Second, every persistent identifier that will be included i= n the examples or elsewhere in the standard must be actionable (expressed, = for the time being, as HTTP URI). So all DOIs that were in the form doi: have been converted into https://doi.org/. This will = not possible with PWIDs, since only the Danish web archive is planning to i= mplement PWIDs, in an archive which has strict access limitations.=20 When you consider what to do with PWID, keep in mind that as a national lib= rary the Royal Danish Library can always use the NBN namespace for items in= the web archive. For instance, something like urn:nbn:pwid: can be c= onstructed, as long as the string conforms to the syntactical requir= ements of the NBN namespace. =20 Henry: The second surely applies to any kind of citation at all, and seems = to depend on a confusion between web identity, media type and the ontology = of citable things and loci associated with them -- all of FRBR lurks just a= round the corner here. Just because some representation is hosted on the Web does not make it easi= er (or harder) than it ever was to make clear in a citation what part/aspec= t/property of what you _name_ in a citation is what you actual are _referri= ng to_. More on this below when we come to the 'coverage-spec'. Juha: trying to express in PWID coverage-spec which part of the of the res= ource has been cited may be more difficult that providing this information = elsewhere in the citation. ISO 690 draft specifies such an alternative appr= oach. And even if PWID really has to be used for this purpose, usage of f-= , r- and q-components may also be considered as an alternative.=20 As Henry says below, coverage-spec would need a lot more alternatives to be= truly useful. Coverage-spec "other" does not add much value, and it would = be necessary to use it for every image, video, etc. And if there are severa= l images on the page, how to indicate the right one (except with f-componen= t)?=20 Best,=20 Juha ------------ One more specific issue with this section "The precision regards both regards precise reference where there can be no doubt about that you have the correct web material as well as precision about what is actually referred by the reference (e.g. is it the page or the whole website)" There's nothing in the proposal which follows to back up the "you have the = correct web material" claim, and the subsequent inventory of 8 'type[s] of = archived item[s]' is clearly not sufficient to unambiguously determine "wha= t is actually referred [to] by the reference". *Syntax* I see no problems in the ABNF. ------------ The definitions of the 'coverage-spec' values are hopelessly underspecified= , and heterogenous. The 'part'/'page' distinction is particularly unclear/= non-obvious/ambiguous/medai-type dependent. *Assignment* The initial claim here and its subsequent gloss taken together don't hold u= p: "The PWID URNs does not have to be assigned by an authority, as they are based on the information created at the time of archiving:" "In other words: the PWID URNs are created independently, but following an algorithm that itself guarantees uniqueness." On a strict reading of "uniqueness" (i.e. a one-to-one relation between ite= ms and PWIDs), this amounts to a claim that _any_ 3rd party considering _an= y_ item in _any_ archive will always construct the _same_ PWID. This readi= ng is obviously false: the presence of the the two "+( unreserved )" expans= ions in the ABNF amount to a _guarantee_ that there will be multiple distin= ct PWIDs for the same item. RFC8141 does not require one-to-one relations between URNs, even URNs withi= n the same namespace. But it does require, in the case of "URNs .. . . cre= ated independently" that they be created "following an algorithm that itsel= f guarantees uniqueness". The underspecification of the 'coverage-spec' al= ready alluded to above makes independent _and_ inconsistently understood co= inages of identical PWIDs not just possible but likely. Consider for examp= le urn:pwid:web.archive.org:2018-01-01T17:03:53Z:part:http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/= ~ht/ One person might coin this to mean the text/html character sequence which w= as served from http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ (my homepage at the University = of Edinburgh) at the beginning of 2018, whereas someone else might coin it = to mean the text/html character sequence you get from the Web Archive today= if you do an http GET on https://web.archive.org/web/20180101170353/http:/= /www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/, which are different in important ways. In general, it seems that knowing whether to use 'part' or 'page' would dep= end on a detailed understanding of the media type of the retrieved represen= tation, which the average creator of a citation is unlikely to have. ------------- Some of this is corrigible, but only at the expense of a vast increase in d= etail and clarity. Others not-so-much, insofar as so much is _necessarily_= left underspecified, to allow for _anything_ to be considered as an archiv= e ('archive-id' value), with the consequent requirement to allow for arbitr= arily idiosyncratic internal naming mechanisms ('archived-item' value). I'm curious in this connection to wonder if we actually have any URN namesp= aces where assignment is done "independently but following an algorithm tha= t itself guarantees uniqueness"? Ah, there are registrations for urn:uuid:= , which qualifies, and urn:oid:, which sort of does. OK, is there such a n= amespace in active use? Which provides for resolution, at least in princip= le? A crucial point here is that in the OID case a urn:oid:... carries a chain = of responsibility with it. If you run across one, you know how to find out= who takes responsibility for every level in the tree that's involved in in= terpreting it. In the UUID case, a urn:uuid: doesn't travel well/at all, s= o the question doesn't arise. But for PWIDs, if I find one I have _no way_= to figure out who's responsible, or whom I can ask for clarification, or w= hom to blame if it doesn't appear to 'work'. ---------------- I don't see what the intended value of the discussion of the "SOLR-Wayback = tool" is for the spec. *Interoperability* The above comments about ambiguity/lack of identity apply here too: if diff= erent implementors interpret e.g. a coverage-spec of 'subsite' differently, their resolvers will not interoperate. *Resolution* None of this is very much to the point. In particular, it completely ignor= es the precedents set by doi.org, identifiers.org and n2t.net (https://doi.org/10.1038/sdata.2018.95 exemplifies the first and its conten= t discusses the second and third).=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D In conclusion, I think a useful way to think about this proposal is as a mi= sguided attempt to define a urn type which _is_ a citation. This makes sen= se of PWID's 3rd party nature, and clarifies that the archive-id and -time,= the embedded URI and the coverage spec are just a pretty arbitrary, certai= nly impoverished, subset of what you would expect to find in a _real_ citat= ion. Trying to pack a citation into a URN just doesn't make sense to me. N= either does trying to determine exactly the _right_ subset of citations of = web-hosted resources to pack up in order to be both useful and unambiguous. (There is work underway in various venues (see e.g. [1]) to _objectify_ cit= ations and give PIDs to _those_, which might address at least some of the g= oals of this work.) ht [1] http://sched.co/DJ3P --=20 Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail from me _al= ways_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam] _______________________________________________ urn mailing list urn@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn