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([2a02:678:588:f800:58d7:51ce:cf33:17ff]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j2sm3198616ywa.73.2018.12.09.09.39.02 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Dec 2018 09:39:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: Enrico Francesconi Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_459569B5-217E-4654-870D-139CA378A050" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) From: Enrico Francesconi In-Reply-To: <48CF1A9A-E476-478C-8A91-923393357D50@ittig.cnr.it> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 18:39:01 +0100 Cc: Pierluigi Spinosa , LUPO Caterina , urn@ietf.org, Barry Leiba , Peter Saint-Andre , john-ietf@jck.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, "Hakala, Juha E" Message-Id: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> References: <87a7tk6wgz.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <921B7656-86DB-471A-9085-91381725D2BC@ittig.cnr.it> <48CF1A9A-E476-478C-8A91-923393357D50@ittig.cnr.it> To: Alexey Melnikov , "Dale R. Worley" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 09:48:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2018 17:39:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_459569B5-217E-4654-870D-139CA378A050 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Alexey, Dear Dale, being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we = were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to = proceed with the so called "experimental=E2=80=9D registration of the = URN:LEX namespace. Thanks for any feedback you can give us! Best regards Pierluigi and Enrico --------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Francesconi ITTIG - CNR Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques Italian National Research Council Via de' Barucci 20 50127 Florence Italy Tel: +39-055-4399-665 Fax: +39-055-4399-605 email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it --------------------------------------------------------- > On 11 ott 2018, at 18:45, Enrico Francesconi = wrote: >=20 > Dear Dale, > we are back to you because we would like to ask you if there has = been any evolution on the so called "experimental=E2=80=9D registration = of the URN:LEX namespace.=20 > The last version of the URN:LEX specifications has been submitted on = June 2018 and from that day we did not received any feedback. > So we were wondering if any action is required by us. >=20 > Thanks a lot for your collaboration > best regards >=20 > Pierluigi and Enrico >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > Enrico Francesconi > ITTIG - CNR > Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > Italian National Research Council >=20 > Via de' Barucci 20 > 50127 Florence > Italy >=20 > Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > --------------------------------------------------------- >=20 >> On 04 giu 2018, at 22:46, Enrico Francesconi = > wrote: >>=20 >> Dear Dale, >> thanks for your message and to the colleagues who approved your = proposal to move ahead with urn-lex registration.=20 >>=20 >> As for the issue you raised about the maintenance of the registry of = jurisdiction codes, we agree at this stage to be ITTIG-CNR the >> Registrar. In this respect we propose the following changes: >>=20 >> Section 3.1 >>=20 >> "However, a special register for the , maintained >> by IANA, is required, the rules of which are defined in section = 11.2." >> =E2=80=94> >> "However, a special register for the is required, >> the rules of which are defined in section 11.2." >>=20 >> [...] >>=20 >> Section 11.2 >>=20 >> "IANA is requested to create a new registry for , >> with the following format:" >> =E2=80=94> >> "It is requested to create a new registry for , >> with the following format:" >>=20 >> [...] >>=20 >> "un.org "; "United Nations"; "DPI, United Nations, =
, "; [reference] >> =E2=80=94>=20 >> "un.org "; "United Nations"; "DPI, United Nations, =
, "; [reference] >> In the current experimental LEX registration phase, ITTIG-CNR will = take care to create and maintain the registry for . >> As the criteria of the LEX names assignment will be consolidated, = after the experimental phase such registry will be maintained by >> IANA. >> The adopted registration policy is compliant with the "Expert Review" = as specified in [RFC8126]. >> Designated Expert(s) will assign jurisdiction codes based on the = following principles: " >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> If you think that such changes are sufficient, we are going to = produce >> the draft v. 13 and upload it in the ietf versioning service. >>=20 >> Thanks! >> Best regards >> Pierluigi and Enrico >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Enrico Francesconi >> ITTIG - CNR >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques >> Italian National Research Council >>=20 >> Via de' Barucci 20 >> 50127 Florence >> Italy >>=20 >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665 >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605 >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>=20 >>> On 01 mag 2018, at 02:38, Dale R. Worley > wrote: >>>=20 >>> My apologies for not working on this earlier. >>>=20 >>> The current draft of "urn-lex" is draft-spinosa-urn-lex-12. People = have >>> criticized its proposed URN system in many ways, but it seems to me = that >>> most of the criticisms are "bibliographic", they concern good ways = to >>> create identifiers for written works. As such, the IETF is not a = good >>> forum for correcting most of those problems. >>>=20 >>> My proposal is that we implement "rough consensus and running code" = -- >>> obtain a usable registration of the "lex" URN namespace so that the >>> authors and ITTIG can put the "lex" URNs into practice. The process = of >>> using the URNs will educate the authors regarding the correct = resolution >>> of the various problems, and will likely cause them to later submit = a >>> revised registration. >>>=20 >>> That is, the registration we create at this time will be understood = to >>> be experimental in nature. >>>=20 >>> In order to be suitable as an "experimental" registration, there are = a >>> few problems that must be resolved: >>>=20 >>> 1. The URN syntax must conform to the generic URN syntax. >>>=20 >>> 2. The requirements of uniqueness and persistence must be met. = (That >>> is, any URN designates at most one resource, and the resource that = it >>> designates must not change over time. However, it is permissible to >>> have multiple URNs designate the same resource.) >>>=20 >>> 3. The process or authority that assigns each URN must be = well-defined. >>>=20 >>> Item 1 is taken care of, in that the syntax in -12 conforms (as far = as I >>> can tell) to the URN syntax in RFC 8141. >>>=20 >>> Item 2 is the responsibility of the Jurisdictional Registrars, in = the >>> same way that the naming authorities of many other URN namespaces = are >>> responsible for uniqueness and persistence. >>>=20 >>> Item 3 requires that a registry of jurisdiction codes and = Jurisdictional >>> Registrars be maintained. Section 11.2 of the -12 draft proposes = that >>> IANA maintain the registry. Given the experimental nature of the = URN >>> registration, it seems to me to be premature to involve IANA, = especially >>> since the principles that the Designated Export must implement are >>> likely to change over time. Instead, it seems to me that the best >>> choice for registrar is ITTIG-CNR, the proposer and developer of the = URN >>> namespace. >>>=20 >>> When the namespace definition is transitioned to a non-experimental >>> status (including fixing a good set of policies to assign = jurisdiction >>> codes), the registry can be transferred to IANA to implement the = proven >>> policies. >>>=20 >>> Following this path requires only small changes for -13, viz., = updating >>> section 11.2. >>>=20 >>> Dale >>> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Archived discussions: >>>=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03828.html = >>> 16 Nov 2017 >>> "urn:lex draft v. 12" >>>=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03811.html = >>> starting 20 Sep 2017 >>> "Request for new URN namespace review: LEX" >>> Message-Id: = <1505909590.1544977.1112321704.5FEB92F9@webmail.messagingengine.com> >>>=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01270.html >>> starting 29 Apr 2014 >>> "Publication request for draft-spinosa-urn-lex" >>> Message-Id: = >>>=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01204.html >>> starting 27 Mar 2013 >>> "Application for a formal URN NID" >>> Message-Id: <23A64284-6B03-4B24-B680-54A61E96BECA at ittig.cnr.it> >>>=20 >>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01059.html >>> 15 Oct 2009 >>> "URN LEX Namespace submission" >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_459569B5-217E-4654-870D-139CA378A050 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Dear Alexey, Dear Dale,
   being = quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we were = wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to proceed = with the so called "experimental=E2=80=9D registration of the URN:LEX = namespace.
Thanks for any feedback you can give = us!

Best = regards
   Pierluigi and Enrico

---------------------------------------------------------
Enrico Francesconi
ITTIG - CNR
Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
Italian National Research Council

Via de' Barucci 20
50127 Florence
Italy

Tel: +39-055-4399-665
Fax: +39-055-4399-605
email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
---------------------------------------------------------
=

On 11 ott 2018, at 18:45, Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> wrote:

Dear Dale,
   we are back to you because we would like to ask = you if there has been any evolution on the so called "experimental=E2=80=9D= registration of the URN:LEX namespace. 
The = last version of the URN:LEX specifications has been submitted on June = 2018 and from that day we did not received any feedback.
So we were wondering if any action is required by = us.

Thanks a = lot for your collaboration
best regards

   Pierluigi = and Enrico


---------------------------------------------------------
Enrico Francesconi
ITTIG - CNR
Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
Italian National Research Council

Via de' Barucci 20
50127 Florence
Italy

Tel: +39-055-4399-665
Fax: +39-055-4399-605
email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
---------------------------------------------------------
=

On 04 giu 2018, at 22:46, Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> wrote:

Dear Dale,
   thanks for your message = and to the colleagues who approved your proposal to move ahead with = urn-lex registration. 

As for the = issue you raised about the maintenance of the registry = of jurisdiction codes, we agree at this stage to be ITTIG-CNR = the
Registrar. In this respect we propose the = following changes:

Section 3.1

"However, a special register for the = <jurisdiction-code>, maintained
by IANA, is = required, the rules of which are defined in section 11.2."
=E2=80=94>
"However, a special register for = the <jurisdiction-code> is required,
the rules of = which are defined in section 11.2."

[...]

Section 11.2

"IANA = is requested to create a new registry for <jurisdiction-code>,
with the following format:"
=E2=80=94>
"It is requested to create a new registry for = <jurisdiction-code>,
with the following format:"

[...]

"un.org"; "United Nations"; "DPI, = United Nations, <address>, <contact>"; [reference]
=E2=80=94> 
"un.org"; "United Nations"; "DPI, United Nations, = <address>, <contact>"; [reference]
In the = current experimental LEX registration phase, ITTIG-CNR will take = care to create and maintain the registry for = <jurisdiction-code>.
As the criteria of the LEX = names assignment will be consolidated, after the experimental phase = such registry will be maintained by
IANA.
The adopted registration policy is compliant with the "Expert Review" as specified = in [RFC8126].
Designated Expert(s) will assign = jurisdiction codes based on the following principles: "




If = you think that such changes are sufficient, we are going to produce
the draft v. 13 and upload it in the ietf versioning = service.

Thanks!
Best = regards
   Pierluigi and Enrico


---------------------------------------------------------
Enrico Francesconi
ITTIG - CNR
Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
Italian National Research Council

Via de' Barucci 20
50127 Florence
Italy

Tel: +39-055-4399-665
Fax: +39-055-4399-605
email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
---------------------------------------------------------
=

On 01 mag 2018, at 02:38, Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> = wrote:

My apologies for not working on this earlier.
The current draft of "urn-lex" is draft-spinosa-urn-lex-12. =  People have
criticized its proposed URN system in = many ways, but it seems to me that
most of the criticisms = are "bibliographic", they concern good ways to
create = identifiers for written works.  As such, the IETF is not a good
forum for correcting most of those problems.

My proposal is that we implement "rough consensus and running = code" --
obtain a usable registration of the "lex" URN = namespace so that the
authors and ITTIG can put the "lex" = URNs into practice.  The process of
using the URNs = will educate the authors regarding the correct resolution
of= the various problems, and will likely cause them to later submit a
revised registration.

That is, = the registration we create at this time will be understood to
be experimental in nature.

In = order to be suitable as an "experimental" registration, there are a
few problems that must be resolved:

1. The URN syntax must conform to the generic URN syntax.

2. The requirements of uniqueness and = persistence must be met.  (That
is, any URN = designates at most one resource, and the resource that it
designates must not change over time.  However, it is = permissible to
have multiple URNs designate the same = resource.)

3. The process or authority that = assigns each URN must be well-defined.

Item = 1 is taken care of, in that the syntax in -12 conforms (as far as I
can tell) to the URN syntax in RFC 8141.

Item 2 is the responsibility of the Jurisdictional = Registrars, in the
same way that the naming authorities of = many other URN namespaces are
responsible for uniqueness = and persistence.

Item 3 requires that a = registry of jurisdiction codes and Jurisdictional
Registrars= be maintained.  Section 11.2 of the -12 draft proposes that
IANA maintain the registry.  Given the experimental = nature of the URN
registration, it seems to me to be = premature to involve IANA, especially
since the principles = that the Designated Export must implement are
likely to = change over time.  Instead, it seems to me that the best
choice for registrar is ITTIG-CNR, the proposer and developer = of the URN
namespace.

When = the namespace definition is transitioned to a non-experimental
status (including fixing a good set of policies to assign = jurisdiction
codes), the registry can be transferred to = IANA to implement the proven
policies.

Following this path requires only small changes for -13, = viz., updating
section 11.2.

Dale
---------------------------------------------------------------= -------
Archived discussions:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03828.html=
16 Nov 2017
"urn:lex draft v. 12"

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/msg03811.html=
starting 20 Sep 2017
"Request for new = URN namespace review: LEX"
Message-Id: <1505909590.1544977.1112321704.5FEB92F9@webmail.messagingengine.= com>

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01270.= html
starting 29 Apr 2014
"Publication = request for draft-spinosa-urn-lex"
Message-Id: = <CALaySJJk5YiCQZqt6WoWkqfAzi2A04HEAH=3DvG0pVAy8e45N5aQ@mail.gmail.com&g= t;

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01204.= html
starting 27 Mar 2013
"Application for a = formal URN NID"
Message-Id: = <23A64284-6B03-4B24-B680-54A61E96BECA at ittig.cnr.it>

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01059.= html
15 Oct 2009
"URN LEX Namespace = submission"



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Worley) To: Enrico Francesconi Cc: aamelnikov@fastmail.fm, barryleiba@computer.org, pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, stpeter@stpeter.im, urn@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> (francesconi@ittig.cnr.it) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMongjCBz6sYpW6J7qXOYaC+AgNFpD9284YvkLL54DIT1MmXOPghDFnFdtdxVDNdq9F6qoBJ2Ya39LdsEdfZmc66SqKak4Aioln/aJfs9GusmZezzOdb iqyV85GClEw4ZdSsZCFXHH4HcRjxjHS15vwPr52GWMt0AD6ksyw+MlaQwa0lumOVajz9upkKK8zHbzAdwoTqXd+/vrH2vAHCwwYQUwKhUednhXwG4Py1w6we AAt37YBECL/S9buoihHiQ/j6/OO9e6eQrpF2CQyiHNnS6HRRJ8t1ZcdTWzey6RMFvijiza11a+UUkm7EyIcCbEidZ6PR0Ys9tlM0deU2cy3l+sfY3BTD8aFC 3qUZxroLwFwB/HM6wVnerSVt+PXGdq+Emp0Z1+8l/fg3kykB6vFfcwPaOvoop9ITCvmYH0+s Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 03:13:23 -0000 Enrico Francesconi writes: > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the URN:LEX > namespace. Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell from reviewing the discussion at https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it that notifies IANA? Dale From nobody Wed Dec 12 06:36:16 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD1B1276D0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:36:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.648 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.648 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FEXTypPqeKPn for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lj1-f176.google.com (mail-lj1-f176.google.com [209.85.208.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 679F21252B7 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lj1-f176.google.com with SMTP id l15-v6so16466809lja.9 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=FL16Cbe44gjECviyk1pr3asQld90W9UCrDMHGqVe00g=; b=ISApIVUNFhdOkQVP2QKYgdSLRmyY0sAcMNU9rc1hyFCu1DjgXyaHuTpJQatKd4dmFg SCLPfDUydhnfw5OF3fy4h+eGvUixim/K08Uz1md0Hxv1mnwOeF8MyKVPqL0EeNT1t6tz c7j5spZS6BtqTKvjW2FbUv3Qr0SpJibbw5TarzhmkPsxEw7YUzZoRMPT2sIBw2YZZlBo nUIO3JCRc9l2Zhw1LYDA/JFTtKVyTc8y2enOpMZ4uiO+HMn43A8jqjaV990RDqir93t3 44BTypVJlreGMQusbSL4IqBj2ag3HWzzu5ILn0mqi7qcrxZ2uxbrezWTnrgrTEobhB9E q7gA== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWbZqZxyNDZGaMBNElDziZ74VL9YDSnR+9WtMk/8IjeUmacPfsm8 2bl93xdrNCOoZ2kZdG2uVUWo1lwhNnIGAALARuE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VpkAMHTuiHADBavfRdwU9K/1lfinQR61LJqHKt587y9nhUQegk8kerON5r/JraOGRzS9oC9hNCtYicsvSQJ+8= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:5854:: with SMTP id x20-v6mr12220924ljd.31.1544625370397; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 06:36:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> From: Enrico Francesconi Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:35:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: "Dale R. Worley" Cc: Alexey Melnikov , Barry Leiba , pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, stpeter@stpeter.im, urn@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000838628057cd41ec5" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:36:15 -0000 --000000000000838628057cd41ec5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear Dale, thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? Best Enrico Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley ha scritto: > Enrico Francesconi writes: > > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we > > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to > > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the URN:LEX > > namespace. > > Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell from reviewing > the discussion at > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have > consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, > but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it that notifies > IANA? > > Dale > > --000000000000838628057cd41ec5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Dale,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0thanks for your = feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the responsible, is it maybe the = ietf secretary?
Best
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico

Il giorno mer 12 dic 20= 18, 04:13 Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com> ha scrit= to:
Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> writes:
> being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of th= e URN:LEX
> namespace.

Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.=C2=A0 As far as I can tell from rev= iewing
the discussion at
http= s://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.=C2=A0 Who is it that not= ifies
IANA?

Dale

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Worley" Cc: Alexey Melnikov , Barry Leiba , pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> From: Peter Saint-Andre Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=stpeter@stpeter.im; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFETDzsBEAC0FOv1N3ZJzIIxN6cKD475KVS9CHDPeYpegcOIPnL5eY1DCHeh/IwS1S7R CePtmiybNoV9FsI4PKUknzXQxA6LVEdAR/LUlhgJKjq+gsgp8lqbEILhg13ecH66HwLS9rar bQkC47T7kL8miIPBFC6E3A4Lq1L+eueO6UcLhKgoYkMxOjdiWrMgKTnVpch5ydLkPm/z0Zo8 zRgqlPuTLeCrXXZYnjHXLVFN2xy04UzOs7P5u5KVfx5Z7uQisr8pXtyLd6SpTZo6SHgKBv15 uz0rqXhsJojiGtOXfWznAjaS5FUOORq9CklG5cMOUAT8TNftv0ktsxaWDL1ELDVQPy1m7mtz o+VREG+0xmU6AjMo/GHblW1UU7MI9yCiuMLsp/HLrFuiosqLVZ85wuLQ2junPe3tK8h15Ucx IXAcpQ1VqIaDQFbeuLOXJTF8YHpHdpHYt/ZM1ll7ZBKGAo8yd7uF7wJ9D3gUazwdz9fFjWV7 oIk7ATwOlFllzmWDn+M2ygbHOGUGMX5hSaa8eDSieiR2QoLdn27Fip7kMBTJ2+GISrfnJTN/ OQvmj0DXXAdxHmu2C4QgmZbkge35n129yzXn9NcqzrGLroV62lL3LgX6cSbiH5i7GgWY6CAP b1pMogV0K475n9FvOSDRiG4QSO5yqKiA3OP5aKrIRp2TNAk4IwARAQABzSZQZXRlciBTYWlu dC1BbmRyZSA8c3RwZXRlckBzdHBldGVyLmltPsLBeQQTAQIAIwUCURMPOwIbAwcLCQgHAwIB BhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEOoGpJErxa2p6bgQAKpxu07cMDOLc4+EG8H19NWXIVVy bOEvfGuHYZaLKkPrhrMZwJiOwBpyISNRt9qzX1eLCVaojaoEVX6kD8MGc5zKFfiJZy3j7lBW l+Ybr7FfXYy2BbAXKx49e1n6ci9LmBrmVfAEaxtDNPITZ9N9oUAb9vS0nrG036EwteEHAveQ vlDjO7lhz6+Cv7lZQgBj9rZ6khfcQ4S3nSCQaKLQ9Iav4fqxI7SfuPKnx6quHX3JNLGnVo3w l+j/foCK0iTrmtHxCI3kc/bx6g32pRjHEPX0ALMBhmzU2uca+TE0zCEC96mgYXAUCwdnCFWy beIEbt6pz65iML13kAVAq0H/GqncnMGN0MbOatnw1Tdz/vkLojIy7QbPcQ0plUFxv5491xPf IrHhOWdRXp6WUt88fcqhT6MHZpVRtusj2ornKVVn+Y0GLsMMCTcrXJRG7Ao1YV72t/pJpzfG WSaaxolxDIZ6B+76jrIhUhiWgo/4nf+DN6BIlCZQ6j6xxjjx462cu02kuhIILTk2pzaMOufT BWx0uJhZk/KP2Fay/41pX7pvVOwRC4uIlKsLnJKLPS7EDa4BUUxENfd/9LqOGwlII8BbSe98 PLMI8sXkcigc3UXMVda9ll0YhQa+lbP1NaszmnBhwuiCsgnPGbImsJuRzgEEgckwP/dNeyr6 MlFMyfaezsFNBFETDzsBEADBzOsEHpUmhkRUjH9Tek87dn5P/Yh/L/HptgCGk40TL/C+kYdk d3HyteMEf061PNmsS/Rq8k37Fu3VODYb9SPYKxtgksKSYUtIkPKvao09K9QNWPqyWuNf0F+i AjVMUudaEVFJ7bHF310RDwLY5IvLeCXxtvG+Vv/i+g77d2WdPDp+zLJ8306C4yBKjSJV8xW0 cn2fd7NviIEN6cNHTsZNDZVMlgYPrxnwSq8GTEPGC7HsLIwGcx3hIe9QjnPw9CpAmQENpDEy WcxgF5uwo2NJECoDswKz1Nb0gfawF3ZIbD+GcLujTu94iJuVg25jATWm9wTgcfZo4UPllRGX dIb8uWwUFQlLQgd4ROLZZtXNGmHIymJrV2crx53gxup+1j0XqhlzKg8xbImWhEfS9oHZkRK8 VHgmWSIt7TNwNir6N5j3lqwWVBhnu6GzF01sKGNySlqNRbd0fqhakCkK71b8ot8tYTcYG5Lg 10z6HTbgQx2UwLthUjqbblDQ+GLmrOhiWklLXRsnlnPMwnEyFePAnsT5tasy2Cn9qjpttNDa h7PB8iFUi9mtTF/XDVgpFaB5G3CDV7Q2NgbAI6g6QhLIAmXzSP635G83mda0TKXHQXHDyLJT Tn+WVFU7t4m4uLt+0DsWU8jXHQWyUTNG9WPUrXhusDUAPHxFCQ/n/lQVBwARAQABwsFfBBgB AgAJBQJREw87AhsMAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pqfgP/ApN+TRu2bBIgaw1dr3AznSSha84DIpXUDh3 udZvQrGbUtz8/mA+e3iZEN/cmmBw2LGlAuQoJNILTZQ318yTP+E5QU7fJH7FVsohUyvrMfyt 3IMA9jg0Z9MuloLezvIjjMfFeNa0ROgDb/ubOT7JQzi1kwN8Lu3lO80HwqBHXEeOLoislUSn ZajRKvITbKWkZ6PHRjlMw1Wk4oIi6VLHgGgj79zzL3uhML2663m7imShvz1QcHTwvyR5i8cZ bNOEkotZyERiA1p7YHuruS+QvTi3ZPoQbnMUB3a7py9d11bw1+w3LiAUGZE/z5hBWOFxYtw+ w/U/Vx0BwJGYlwU3M2W20uEXe+qxz7wnakygKjmLiD2z4njfKjcNCiV3FmXrpmWgADln1c4j fxDh0NrndrsM8FPDf1TMPtOZgFDkKripc9xkZ/25P6xn27oTOHWKcAC0QhxSH+HuVBBRk8Ag F+zAbDZe4/L6+kanSrycIXW+wCzwBq61aWsz2QhhuKjozVkhk4dRG+CfjzAFjnyxwYERn3uX VKQAwTwcdNcTI9RV98IsNrw9Y4lJEAg6CjNPmiD5+EASycqaOuToRSGukr8sOQLWLPyTnez/ aG8Xf7a+fntWzK2HuDYoSDhJJrylWw/lMklOBm4wtMeNA0zcQH6AQV/GzQVQkSGqrLuMVIV/ Message-ID: <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:39:20 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 14:39:29 -0000 In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > Dear Dale, >    thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the > responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? > Best >    Enrico > > Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley > ha scritto: > > Enrico Francesconi > writes: > > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we > > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to > > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the URN:LEX > > namespace. > > Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell from reviewing > the discussion at > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have > consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, > but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it that notifies > IANA? > > Dale > From nobody Wed Dec 12 09:30:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AC513116E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:30:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=mozilla.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tf5OTx_s9Fbh for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io1-xd42.google.com (mail-io1-xd42.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5264E13115D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io1-xd42.google.com with SMTP id t24so15512571ioi.0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mozilla.com; s=google; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IvPkm8VE3lm1pAZZNiNCRZsKRDSo/4APxs0MXymczoc=; b=c17bmRj00LS/qJ6zqQWXdbWVB88Mcdxt0UDOEewIFlfL7F1O0irVBfBXK6okenTsNO adVYcygvzvsVDV0Cuo2da+/ehbbFbOSwmuzFUe8QXUXUWQfnDfdOKlnZYOu4szOf+xa/ fSP6pjNgl8DxUys65TR1d1gvYULRrVhIjMXU0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:openpgp:autocrypt :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IvPkm8VE3lm1pAZZNiNCRZsKRDSo/4APxs0MXymczoc=; b=N0yXhnjC7dUtHDKiCkF/DcV9LsIeWGA/Vexnaeig8bdc9IQUN1qKMj6jCOM3sm/p4/ bOv/YDhWZwnST/JqJKX8CKHJZjee2rbCXpdA5F+99EdNtRG4GjQSGO8D52GSymqJELvQ zcZXqsOCfjqm7LxYvdhkhpgCWusNM5VwYKdtskaTy3puKzmN7JH7J+KP54vNbeixa4ST kURzqCzDBOr3Ie3myMCk6YMB6DGpvwPX/n1K6goaCfnM0r6rhY5WxzeoPm6ci61+2h1Q qUfigTP7frnwFF/8bK3ZJlRbRJ+dts3PgSAMrmL9+//mWw32oRKLaFhyIY4BABU29GDb /HyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaUD1sysHaZPKKpkl8P4PaCGCUZSoYwT0l8WreuW1MxgeMH1O4Y DnYym43oKV//WwtGS0yt7lCDaA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/UdrelSJGvYxUe1NUOsu8H3BgZ2MEXMosjW1IZ17rQhum3fZd937+ZpDZKuIF5lrUlovj7luA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9b0d:: with SMTP id y13mr17922892ion.243.1544635827555; Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.local ([76.25.3.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m132sm3109333itm.26.2018.12.12.09.30.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Dec 2018 09:30:26 -0800 (PST) To: Enrico Francesconi , "Dale R. Worley" Cc: Barry Leiba , pierluigi.spinosa@gmail.com, Alexey Melnikov , L.Svensson@dnb.de, caterina.lupo@gmail.com, urn@ietf.org References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> From: Peter Saint-Andre Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=stpeter@mozilla.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFonEf4BEADvZ+RGsJoOyZaw2rKedB9pBb2nNXVGgymNS9+FAL/9SsfcrKaGYSiWEz7P Lvc97hWH3LACFAHvnzoktv+4IWHjItvhdi9kUQ3Gcbahe55OcdZuSXXH3w5cHF0rKz9aYRpN jENqXM5dA8x4zIymJraqYvHlFsuuPB8rcRIV9SKsvcy14w9iRqu770NjXfE/aIsyRwwmTPiU FQ0fOSDPA/x2DLjed/GYHem90C5vF4Er9InMqH5KAMLnjIYZ9DbPx5c5EME4zW/d648HOvPB bm+roZs4JTHBhjlrTtzDDpMcxHq1e8YPvSdDLPvgFXDcTD4+ztkdO5rvDkbc61QFcLlidU8H 3KBiOVMA/5Rgl4lcWZzGfJBnwvSrKVPsxzpuCYDg01Y/7TH4AuVkv5Na6jKymJegjxEuJUNw CBzAhxOb0H9dXROkvxnRdYS9f0slcNDBrq/9h9dIBOqLhoIvhu+Bhz6L/NP5VunQWsEleGaO 3gxGh9PP/LMyjweDjPz74+7pbyOW0b5VnIDFcvCTJKP0sBJjRU/uqmQ25ckozuYrml0kqVGp EfxhSKVqCFoAS4Q7ux99yT4re2X1kmlHh3xntzmOaRpcZsS8mJEnVyhJZBMOhqE280m80ZbS CYghd2K0EIuRbexd+lfdjZ+t8ROMMdW5L51CJVigF0anyYTcAwARAQABzSdQZXRlciBTYWlu dC1BbmRyZSA8c3RwZXRlckBtb3ppbGxhLmNvbT7CwZQEEwEIAD4WIQQ1VSPTuPTvyWCdvvRl YYwYf2gUqQUCWicR/gIbIwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCAkKCwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRBlYYwY f2gUqdaREAChG8qU1853mP0sv2Mersns8TLG1ztgoKHvMXFlMUpNz6Oi6CjjaMNFhP7eUY4T D43+yQs7f4qCkOAPWuuqO8FbNWQ+yUoVkqF8NUrrVkZUlZ1VZBMQHNlaEwwu1CGoHsLoRohP SiZ0hpmGTWB3V6cDDK4KN6nl610WJbzE9LeKY1AxtePdJi2KM281U0Fz8ntij1jWu0gF2xU4 Sez46JDogHLWKgd0srauhcCVzZjAhiWrXp1+ryzSWYaZO8Kh8SnF1f4o6jtYikMqkxUaI5nX wvD3kNX4AMSkCAZfG7Jcfj/SLDojTcREgO87g7B9bcOOsHN4lj3lHoFV0aXpgPmjfIvAjJHu fHkXZAQAH8w0u9bgJqRn703+A4NPfLopnjegyhlNi7fQ3cMQV1H7Oj7WrB/pCcprx+1u/6Uq oTtDwWh1U5uVthVAI0QojpNWR08zABDX19TlGtVoeygaQV3CAEolxTiYQtCfVavUzUplCZ/t 3v4YiRov+NylflJd+1akyOs1IAgARf444BnoH1fotkpfXNOpp9wUXXwsQcFRdP7vpMkSCkc0 sxPNTVX3ei0QImp4NsrFdaep7LV3zEb3wkAp6KE5Qno4hVVEypULbvB0G6twNZbeRfcs2Rjp jnPb2fofvg2WhAKB20dnRfIfK8OKTD/P+JDcauJANjmekM7BTQRaJxH+ARAApPwkbOTChAQu jMvteb/xcwuL5JZElmLxIqvJhqybV7JknM+3ATyN0CTYQFvPTgIrhpk4zSn0A6pEePdK8mKK 5/aHyd7pr7rLEi1sI/X3UE8ld/E83MExksKrYbs0UX1wSQwYXU6g64KicnuP2Abqg+8wrQ18 1nPcZci9jJI75XVPnTdUpZD5aaQWGp7IJ06NTbiOk30I50ORfulgKoe4m3UfsMALFxIx3pJk oy76xC2tjxYGf+4Uq1M0iK3Wy655GrcwXq/5ieODNUcAZzvK5hsUVRodBq0Lq3g1ivQF4ba7 RQayDzlW6XgoeU49xnCr9XdZYnTnj4iaPmr2NtY6AacBwRz+bJsyugeSyGgHsnVGyUSMk8YN wZHvUykMjH21LLzIUX5NFlcumLUXDOECELCJwewui4W81sI5Sq/WDJet+iJwwylUX22TSulG VwDS+j66TLZpk1hEwPanGLwFBSosafqSNBMDVWegKWvZZVyoNHIaaQbrTIoAwuAGvdVncSQz ttC6KkaFlAtlZt3+eUFWlMUOQ9jxQKTWymyliWKrx+S6O1cr4hwVRbg7RQkpfA8E2Loa13oO vRSQy/M2YBRZzRecTKY6nslJo6FWTftpGO7cNcvbmQ6I++5cBG1B1eNy2RFGJUzGh1vlYo51 pdfSg0U1oPHBPCHNvPYCJ7UAEQEAAcLBfAQYAQgAJhYhBDVVI9O49O/JYJ2+9GVhjBh/aBSp BQJaJxH+AhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEGVhjBh/aBSpAw0P/1tEcEaZUO1uLenNtqysi3mQ6qAHYALR Df3p2z/RBKRVx0DJlzDfDvJ2R/GRwoo+vyCviecuG2RNKmJbf1vSm/QTtbQMUjwut9mx6KCY CyKwniqdhaMBmjCfV2DB2MxxZLYMtDfx/2mY7vzAci7AkjC+RkSUByMEOkyscUydKC/ETdf9 tvI8GhTY/8Q7JSylS3lQA5pMUHiIf+KpSmqKZeBPkGc7nSKM1w1UKUvFAsyyVsiG6A/hWrTr 7tTQAl7YfjtOGE8n4IKGktvrT99bbh9wdWKZ5FdHUN9hx2Q8VP8+0lR1CH2laVFbEwCOv1vM W4cgQDLxwwpo1iOTdHBVtQDxlQ9hPMKVlB1KP9KjchxuiLc24wLmCjP3pDMml4LQxOYB34Eq cgPZ3uHvJZG309sb2wTMTWaXobWNI++ZrsRD5GTmuzF3kkx3krtrq6HI5NSaemxK6MTDTjDN Rj/OwTl0yU35eJXuuryB20GFOSUsxiw00I2hMGQ1Cy9L/+IW6Dvotd8O3LmKh2tFArzXaKLx /rZyGNurS/Go5YjHp8wdJOs7Ka2p1U31js24PMWO6hf6hIiY2WRUsnE6xZNhvBTgKOY6u0KT V6hTevFqEw7OAZDCWUoE2Ob2/oHGZCCMW5SLAMgp7eihF0kGf2S2CmpIFYXGb61hAD8SqSY7 Fn7V Message-ID: <2e9c9bb1-0e82-b02d-a920-62d319888e37@mozilla.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 10:30:25 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:30:33 -0000 Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring Area Director. Peter On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. > > On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >> Dear Dale, >>    thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the >> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? >> Best >>    Enrico >> >> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley > > ha scritto: >> >> Enrico Francesconi > > writes: >> > being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), we >> > were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before to >> > proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the URN:LEX >> > namespace. >> >> Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell from reviewing >> the discussion at >> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we have >> consensus to register the namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, >> but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it that notifies >> IANA? >> >> Dale >> > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >