From nobody Mon Jan 7 18:26:29 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD34130E7E for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 18:26:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.933 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcastmailservice.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ec6ueqqWoi-8 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 18:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2024A130E71 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 18:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.103]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id gfiSgmLL2bX9Cgh61gG2vc; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 02:26:25 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20180828_2048; t=1546914385; bh=/hzEyBTReMCXbQeSJPuBAL8hG4Sc3koid5566Wdwi8A=; h=Received:Received:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date: Message-ID; b=MrJWel4UgL/v1UyZqz2C7hp5C+hxdSHgg/aeUJIV4C+iDqlJ+7S6X351aDSX/rcfQ 28GinGbfhke3e/GnrGskUHBv/DQF70zfWe+Ni+vbSjeDLGBhwtmcQU9k12qqG6DIS5 3QgYc/CKiV1+3SKkV7660mURx29YOhYsL1FewWifEI0fZCPp0YJaoDDEk/gmS2wc9Y 5u0CsZMeNlzgXoFWdP/U7wadsNuYdS0y/kNlx61XxIkrPbwQIBkVEDPc9ae4usXfzu D1AgR5qKdUsDn2xuD19vJVs74X8SWk80mT95pM+PwrG68bMAoS1bW6X78PCu7iXLPL 8UfPdwoH7FsbA== Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id gh5wgCQ14QFZMgh5xgQlXQ; Tue, 08 Jan 2019 02:26:24 +0000 X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0;st=legit Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id x082QKLV012508; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 21:26:20 -0500 Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id x082QJkU012505; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 21:26:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f From: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) To: "Harvey\, Roy" Cc: urn@ietf.org, urn-nid@apps.ietf.org, vberrios@zigbee.org In-Reply-To: (Roy.Harvey@osram.com) Sender: worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:26:19 -0500 Message-ID: <87r2dn996c.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 02:26:28 -0000 "Harvey, Roy" writes: > In 2016, the Zigbee Alliance requested a URN Namespace ID, "zcl", via > the process and template in RFC 8141. Dale Worley provided feedback, > which was incorporated into a revised application sent in August 2016 > to urn-nid@apps.ietf.org . Zigbee has > not received notification of acceptance or issues with the > application. Administrative details: The messages on urn-nid are: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01428.html https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01429.html https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01430.html https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01431.html The version of the URN definition attached to the message I'm replying to (Roy.Harvey@osram.com, 7 Jan 2019) is the same as the "revised definition" in the 3rd of the above messages (msg01430). My opinion; As I stated in the 4th of the above messages (msg01431), "Clearly, that takes care of all my concerns." I believe we should approve this application. 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Worley" CC: "vberrios@zigbee.org" , "urn@ietf.org" , "urn-nid@apps.ietf.org" , "Harvey, Roy" Thread-Topic: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application Thread-Index: AQHUpvmUGP9oYWdox0+kYIZzdUJ+ZqWxwRdg Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:51:12 +0000 Message-ID: <1b516b58df1041948913ec54838eadcc@dnb.de> References: (Roy.Harvey@osram.com) <87r2dn996c.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> In-Reply-To: <87r2dn996c.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.69.12.174] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.1.0.1844-8.2.0.1013-24366.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--29.780-5.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--29.780-5.0-31-10 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.1.0.1844-8.2.1013-24366.000 X-TMASE-Result: 10--29.779600-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 6otD/cJAac2nykMun0J1wqJVTu7sjgg1kdF7loYFTK1HJ8oIS5faKvYV +0g4ZB1V7/w48fAiha+/YO4Hwaf0SF77Twno8dSzwR3oBUcW2mNB+8LAeeOOMPgnJH5vm2+gPQl KJ9DUxnnMZuRXjbIiHLHYk2Gsxjdb1xQ2OgXti5WvPooS+PUQcqa5gqfkY5ootXl9IxEPXOrkhX Ey2xK9dJFsycqitbkvDRtpfDiE+nHd2zF0bWP2B5MSBMTQNiSA+KgiyLtJrSA8guXXRtiXIEfVd jfRv+TC/G26v9h/FJv6X9vlQUOrY2NKRVYWNEScqbg9uWhLYLd1k+gP1XamtJsoi2XrUn/J5DRV VehENPKrusVRy4an8bxAi7jPoeEQftwZ3X11IV0= X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:51:19 -0000 Dale, Thanks for forwarding this to the urn list. I'm currently not monitoring ur= n-nid so I didn't get Roy's message. Two minor comments on this: 1) (procedure) RFC 8141 says that templates are to be sent to urn@ietf.org,= not urn-nid@ietf.org. Since the application precedes RFC 8141, that should= be OK. 2) (template) Roy's mail talks about "the process and template in RFC 8141"= but the registration template is the one from RFC 2141 and the text also r= efers to RFC 2141. Since we've taken so long to process this registration, = I don't think it would be fair to require the registrant to use the new tem= plate from RFC 8141. I vote for approval, too. Best, Lars > -----Original Message----- > From: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dale R. Worley > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 3:26 AM > To: Harvey, Roy > Cc: vberrios@zigbee.org; urn@ietf.org; urn-nid@apps.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application >=20 > "Harvey, Roy" writes: > > In 2016, the Zigbee Alliance requested a URN Namespace ID, "zcl", via > > the process and template in RFC 8141. Dale Worley provided feedback, > > which was incorporated into a revised application sent in August 2016 > > to urn-nid@apps.ietf.org . Zigbee has > > not received notification of acceptance or issues with the > > application. >=20 > Administrative details: >=20 > The messages on urn-nid are: > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01428.html > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01429.html > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01430.html > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01431.html >=20 > The version of the URN definition attached to the message I'm replying > to (Roy.Harvey@osram.com, 7 Jan 2019) is the same as the "revised > definition" in the 3rd of the above messages (msg01430). >=20 > My opinion; >=20 > As I stated in the 4th of the above messages (msg01431), "Clearly, that > takes care of all my concerns." 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Since then, I have not seen further correspondence or confirmation. RFC 8141, Clause 6.2, step 4 says, "If the Designated Experts approve the r= equest and no standardization action is involved, the IANA will register the requested NI= D." Although this NID would become part of a Zigbee standard, the Zigbee A= lliance does not seek standardization within the IETF. I don't see in RFC 8141 how much time it takes for requests to be approved.= Would you please advise when we can expect confirmation that the Designat= ed Experts approved this request and that the NID "zcl" will be registered = to Zigbee? Thank you very much. Best regards, Roy Harvey OSRAM SYLVANIA Inc. SSL Electronics & Infrastructure Standards & Regulatory Affairs :: I IM STA 200 Ballardvale Street, Wilmington, MA 01887 :: +1-978-570-3267=20 Cell: +1-978-530-6084 :: roy.harvey@osram.com :: www.osram-americas.com :: = www.osram.com The information in this email is intended only for the person or entity to = which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged materi= al. Any reviews, retransmissions, dissemination or other use or taking of = any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other t= han the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this email in err= or, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -----Original Message----- From: Dale R. Worley [mailto:worley@ariadne.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:26 PM To: Harvey, Roy Cc: urn@ietf.org; urn-nid@apps.ietf.org; vberrios@zigbee.org Subject: Re: ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application "Harvey, Roy" writes: > In 2016, the Zigbee Alliance requested a URN Namespace ID, "zcl", via=20 > the process and template in RFC 8141. Dale Worley provided feedback,=20 > which was incorporated into a revised application sent in August 2016=20 > to urn-nid@apps.ietf.org . Zigbee has=20 > not received notification of acceptance or issues with the=20 > application. Administrative details: The messages on urn-nid are: https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ie= tf.org%2Fmail-archive%2Fweb%2Furn-nid%2Fcurrent%2Fmsg01428.html&data=3D= 02%7C01%7C%7C24074242b7bd4a110e8908d67510b0b5%7Cec1ca250c2344d56a76b7dfb9ee= e0c46%7C0%7C0%7C636825111910608038&sdata=3DZrjxvzJYPi%2Bn3SkVOg2LXb2CZM= cCM1qB5e%2FxyWMApVc%3D&reserved=3D0 https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ie= tf.org%2Fmail-archive%2Fweb%2Furn-nid%2Fcurrent%2Fmsg01429.html&data=3D= 02%7C01%7C%7C24074242b7bd4a110e8908d67510b0b5%7Cec1ca250c2344d56a76b7dfb9ee= e0c46%7C0%7C0%7C636825111910608038&sdata=3D5gWgAKbRjTKxigwCUXCFCqG1olay= VRVAEMsKvQ8hJ8w%3D&reserved=3D0 https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ie= tf.org%2Fmail-archive%2Fweb%2Furn-nid%2Fcurrent%2Fmsg01430.html&data=3D= 02%7C01%7C%7C24074242b7bd4a110e8908d67510b0b5%7Cec1ca250c2344d56a76b7dfb9ee= e0c46%7C0%7C0%7C636825111910608038&sdata=3DGdrEfLsci%2BnwmbAvQ3Sp7PCoJ5= vFp64BWiqGEfwRo44%3D&reserved=3D0 https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ie= tf.org%2Fmail-archive%2Fweb%2Furn-nid%2Fcurrent%2Fmsg01431.html&data=3D= 02%7C01%7C%7C24074242b7bd4a110e8908d67510b0b5%7Cec1ca250c2344d56a76b7dfb9ee= e0c46%7C0%7C0%7C636825111910608038&sdata=3DSPE%2FHtVFOWycSkH%2BYvC8y8j4= ynvQUBzVDfhfzHJtF4Q%3D&reserved=3D0 The version of the URN definition attached to the message I'm replying to (= Roy.Harvey@osram.com, 7 Jan 2019) is the same as the "revised definition" i= n the 3rd of the above messages (msg01430). My opinion; As I stated in the 4th of the above messages (msg01431), "Clearly, that tak= es care of all my concerns." I believe we should approve this application. 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Worley" CC: "vberrios@zigbee.org" , "urn@ietf.org" , "urn-nid@apps.ietf.org" , "Harvey, Roy" Thread-Topic: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application Thread-Index: AQHUpvmbXRrdI2fVzk+8Ib7Fd+cFW6WxxNcAgAFGAcA= Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:28:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: (Roy.Harvey@osram.com) <87r2dn996c.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <1b516b58df1041948913ec54838eadcc@dnb.de> In-Reply-To: <1b516b58df1041948913ec54838eadcc@dnb.de> Accept-Language: fi-FI, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=juha.hakala@helsinki.fi; x-originating-ip: [128.214.147.95] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; HE1PR07MB4201; 6:Q17lJtvoqyRv6eLu8F0ZuUNEr5q2ULW9E34hQ9fodw6HWQ5t100xIriAuPjk5/zGTnjmZSrxg//0VLyWNI+rrX0a6tRTKeyLYofFVoB3d3jM7sqR5DtSFl8HdbaZ/AXJzzNPOIKQRH9LDJpuuLI+VsL/Ax3DycijU2LU3WUpG8Tt7rhHvIPZFQbkvWgKOvPDBO/5FmO+Y8t1kJvGqDB2tQsD/0kXx1L/SinsiDlGqDFLEK5qlonKEJgDJ9CF2qBmMbhm8F+/hN3Q6N1rFoCOmBesaEWTbcInZZW7C+zpd9F5Vtku/+X9dAh0xyb4I3EUWB+ltt7kF/Gl8k+jrslg2Q7ho9mQkcjAKIWsNG4rHiqwHOzOZEMUR2GQP8wlRcMFM2yAd+PW7t6ACQunePJbzp89TAPiZfZPhD4eokefzAQ8DnDiY3J8odTNt1VpioE1JqBmyxUWrb7tWxLnByUsVQ==; 5:Ts7165mKODeaA4KZSBjXpflpXDee0kJKiDQXLdPsNW83uN1wkz3kXgPRi2z8mlNac/ciiQqlye/Hvvz2RZRzxdNQaRh8SzkgG7y9BU6KAr8an7C0dDaGI1kxsjY7Q+60trnHGApIgMBvi+Wp+wawUIT2bIyuHwyiYSw+jCgSafUeuLxMSuxlguwdxFtGd8Cy+SdadDalbyfmhrah1nXDew==; 7:578pwn6pKYlZTPgFnm0kbvw5vFsYtY4GFCIGSEcWY+9Oyr8zlcAnVWLFOAkAHbcX1+ureNN/7DofC4jzensXYAyiyg9KhkdQdp3jpXYCP0DP6OoRpn/4mJOlq0PJyWWKeTdEkzYZ6RWIsjAdX/7vFg== x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SOS; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 7b611c3f-c97b-45d3-d35c-08d67c450ba6 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(2390118)(7020095)(4652040)(8989299)(4534185)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990200)(5600109)(711020)(2017052603328)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:HE1PR07MB4201; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: HE1PR07MB4201: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-forefront-prvs: 0920602B08 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(39860400002)(396003)(136003)(366004)(346002)(376002)(189003)(199004)(13464003)(76176011)(7696005)(6306002)(11346002)(478600001)(66066001)(68736007)(26005)(186003)(305945005)(55016002)(4326008)(110136005)(5660300001)(102836004)(99286004)(53546011)(966005)(786003)(14454004)(6436002)(316002)(9686003)(2906002)(54906003)(446003)(6246003)(74482002)(256004)(8676002)(476003)(6506007)(229853002)(14444005)(5024004)(71190400001)(106356001)(6116002)(105586002)(97736004)(7736002)(53936002)(93886005)(25786009)(486006)(74316002)(33656002)(8936002)(3846002)(81166006)(81156014)(86362001)(71200400001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR07MB4201; H:HE1PR07MB3097.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: helsinki.fi does not designate permitted sender hosts) x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: SIzZOD3z7+f7eqtG9uNzl8SAkuTgWDmJXN3zDQPUO5gLLVHppWioUI5pSzIBNHyRTAWxmjHSZ7fVCkws8WbaDIgQqf0exkElm7f5TmEs2o8+7zqNFDES8M/vMLdZjTGyJCzdPZi2O2RvpD3+WhG/hnmIPXmMb2mgxmuEq4CHyttan8Uh2XQ5SgaSNBpqEFDDC4hfp2qR8MJ6tN0HTVNyotLFINIaOV0ERJiJHp1bnkhx3c0rN91RMPW6HX1m8qGmA4Fi6whjWRcCoIGi4sAdAUDQdjVN4FzJZVs+OEUdre3a6BVeVw55mg0rOOvTZ6V/HHTvWFRfqAEln+WfSwAK2YjGAMUHDFQrTISgElopaQghMDJVo6Xbo2tPdV4R9uDnsRSPO3zFc6Ql3V2pKnGPjNMmBUMQ8zb0791DogVuZRA= spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: helsinki.fi X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 7b611c3f-c97b-45d3-d35c-08d67c450ba6 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 17 Jan 2019 06:28:50.7432 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 98ae7559-10dc-4288-8e2e-4593e62fe3ee X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB4201 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:29:00 -0000 Dale; all,=20 I approve this application as well.=20 There was not much information about the applicant (The ZigBee Alliance), b= ut the ZigBee web site provided enough background information for me (see h= ttps://www.zigbee.org/zigbee-for-developers/about-us/, for instance).=20 It would be nice to know a little bit more about the intended scope of urn:= zcl, in order to maintain some understanding of what kind of items URNs are= or will be applied to. =20 Best regards,=20 Juha -----Original Message----- From: urn On Behalf Of Svensson, Lars Sent: keskiviikko 16. tammikuuta 2019 12.51 To: Dale R. Worley Cc: vberrios@zigbee.org; urn@ietf.org; urn-nid@apps.ietf.org; Harvey, Roy <= Roy.Harvey@osram.com> Subject: Re: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application Dale, Thanks for forwarding this to the urn list. I'm currently not monitoring ur= n-nid so I didn't get Roy's message. Two minor comments on this: 1) (procedure) RFC 8141 says that templates are to be sent to urn@ietf.org,= not urn-nid@ietf.org. Since the application precedes RFC 8141, that should= be OK. 2) (template) Roy's mail talks about "the process and template in RFC 8141"= but the registration template is the one from RFC 2141 and the text also r= efers to RFC 2141. Since we've taken so long to process this registration, = I don't think it would be fair to require the registrant to use the new tem= plate from RFC 8141. I vote for approval, too. Best, Lars > -----Original Message----- > From: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dale R. Worley > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 3:26 AM > To: Harvey, Roy > Cc: vberrios@zigbee.org; urn@ietf.org; urn-nid@apps.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [urn] ZigBee Alliance "zcl" URN Formal Application >=20 > "Harvey, Roy" writes: > > In 2016, the Zigbee Alliance requested a URN Namespace ID, "zcl",=20 > > via the process and template in RFC 8141. Dale Worley provided=20 > > feedback, which was incorporated into a revised application sent in=20 > > August 2016 to urn-nid@apps.ietf.org . =20 > > Zigbee has not received notification of acceptance or issues with=20 > > the application. >=20 > Administrative details: >=20 > The messages on urn-nid are: > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01428.html > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01429.html > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01430.html > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn-nid/current/msg01431.html >=20 > The version of the URN definition attached to the message I'm replying=20 > to (Roy.Harvey@osram.com, 7 Jan 2019) is the same as the "revised=20 > definition" in the 3rd of the above messages (msg01430). >=20 > My opinion; >=20 > As I stated in the 4th of the above messages (msg01431), "Clearly,=20 > that takes care of all my concerns." I believe we should approve this=20 > application. >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn _______________________________________________ urn mailing list urn@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Thu Jan 17 06:46:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC64129BBF for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:46:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2wS9GQNonfR3 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.dnb.de (prodfix-out0.dnb.de [193.175.100.144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0EB8130E6B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from dnb-tmg.ad.ddb.de (tmg.dnb.de [10.69.66.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.dnb.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE8AE4980824; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:46:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from dnb-tmg.ad.ddb.de (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BF0A4052; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:46:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from dnb-tmg.ad.ddb.de (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A410A4041; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:46:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (unknown [10.69.63.244]) by dnb-tmg.ad.ddb.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:46:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE (10.69.63.244) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.1.669.32; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:46:41 +0100 Received: from dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7]) by dnbf-ex.AD.DDB.DE ([fe80::3576:7565:4f15:49c7%4]) with mapi id 15.01.0669.032; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:46:41 +0100 From: "Svensson, Lars" To: "Dale R. Worley" , Eld Zierau CC: "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for changes in PWID URN version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 Thread-Index: AdSuc3Sm32TiMBAVSZKSdHKbD7LiBA== Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:46:41 +0000 Message-ID: <0a8299a1afb643abb1466b4b0735c12c@dnb.de> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.69.12.174] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.1.0.1844-8.2.0.1013-24372.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--27.623-5.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--27.623-5.0-31-10 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.1.0.1844-8.2.1013-24372.000 X-TMASE-Result: 10--27.622900-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: 6otD/cJAac2+/DppUgeV14Dqq/69HfgsTJDl9FKHbrkJW4Re2U2py6nt 4xKx7rcqpHkojTnLiX0AnJsVFdoN+baOw3xqC4q8hsE+u3nnCfCH7D1bP/FcOoe1w3/L9JY5345 +on9m5LpNYvDaO9t+nFxBgG7mg/DlfPmUQQG69pwA/YF+Wl3eH+D8QblN6KNVrvW2+LEIIhMhn8 yOd6dbI0/3QbfXts8P24m07etrO5R/dZAjNXEbFovNlIrJDKnM4GCn4bchfGvRYCdDmDnTy2Nok eyvFnLM88mAp1QEppWW5DYmFjD7MDUY01xhNnfIHPCema1j/6t9LQinZ4QefHlZfqMjiglXoeQz lhj3almNo+PRbWqfRJBlLa6MK1y4 X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for changes in PWID URN version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:46:48 -0000 Apologies for not commenting on this draft until now... Version 4 of PWID has matured considerably compared to version 3 and I thin= k it needs at the most one or two more iterations until it's ready for regi= stration. I find the discussion about an IANA registry for names of web archives very= interesting and would support the creation of such a registry. The number = of such archives will probably be of manageable size (about the same size a= s the number of national libraries...). I also have a number of minor editorial issues but would wait with those un= til the contents of the draft are more stable. Best, Lars > -----Original Message----- > From: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dale R. Worley > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:02 AM > To: Eld Zierau > Cc: urn@ietf.org > Subject: [Marketing Mail] Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for chang= es in > PWID URN version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 >=20 > Eld Zierau writes: > > Here is the promised Word file with differences between version 3 and 4 >=20 > > [2:application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.docum= ent > Show Save:PWID_from_V3_to_V4.docx (81kB)] >=20 > Why not just give the URL to the datatracker's history page for the I-D: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/history/ > and the URL for the diff between v3 and v4, in the format that basically > everybody in the IETF is familiar with: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-pwid-urn-specification-03&url2= =3Ddraft-pwid- > urn-specification-04 >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn From nobody Mon Jan 21 05:15:11 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3E9130FB8 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:15:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vDRlN9UxGulU for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-out12.electric.net (smtp-out12.electric.net [89.104.206.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6117B124B0C for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1glZPr-0000wx-TD by out12c.electric.net with emc1-ok (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1glZPs-0001dZ-Uj; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:15:04 -0800 Received: by emcmailer; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:15:04 -0800 Received: from [130.226.226.11] (helo=post.kb.dk) by out12c.electric.net with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1glZPr-0000wx-TD; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:15:03 -0800 Received: from EXCH-02.kb.dk (unknown [10.5.0.112]) by post.kb.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE9491F57; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:15:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from EXCH-02.kb.dk (10.5.0.112) by EXCH-02.kb.dk (10.5.0.112) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.1415.2; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:15:02 +0100 Received: from EXCH-02.kb.dk ([fe80::b595:1a1f:5666:b29]) by EXCH-02.kb.dk ([fe80::b595:1a1f:5666:b29%7]) with mapi id 15.01.1415.002; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:15:02 +0100 From: Eld Zierau To: "Svensson, Lars" , "Dale R. Worley" CC: "urn@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for changes in PWID URN version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 Thread-Index: AdSuc3Sm32TiMBAVSZKSdHKbD7LiBAC8br3A Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:15:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: <0a8299a1afb643abb1466b4b0735c12c@dnb.de> In-Reply-To: <0a8299a1afb643abb1466b4b0735c12c@dnb.de> Accept-Language: da-DK, en-US Content-Language: da-DK X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.226.229.95] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Outbound-IP: 130.226.226.11 X-Env-From: elzi@kb.dk X-Proto: esmtp X-Revdns: post-03.kb.dk X-HELO: post.kb.dk X-TLS: X-Authenticated_ID: X-PolicySMART: 10573177 X-Virus-Status: Scanned by VirusSMART (c) X-Virus-Status: Scanned by VirusSMART (s) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for changes in PWID URN version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:15:11 -0000 Thank you Lars, Is there any particular area you think needs approvement? Best regards, Eld -----Original Message----- From: Svensson, Lars =20 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 3:47 PM To: Dale R. Worley ; Eld Zierau Cc: urn@ietf.org Subject: RE: Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for changes in PWID URN = version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 Apologies for not commenting on this draft until now... Version 4 of PWID has matured considerably compared to version 3 and I thin= k it needs at the most one or two more iterations until it's ready for regi= stration. I find the discussion about an IANA registry for names of web archives very= interesting and would support the creation of such a registry. The number = of such archives will probably be of manageable size (about the same size a= s the number of national libraries...). I also have a number of minor editorial issues but would wait with those un= til the contents of the draft are more stable. Best, Lars > -----Original Message----- > From: urn [mailto:urn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dale R. Worley > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 2:02 AM > To: Eld Zierau > Cc: urn@ietf.org > Subject: [Marketing Mail] Re: [urn] Comments/answers to reasons for=20 > changes in PWID URN version 4 - diff version 3 and 4 >=20 > Eld Zierau writes: > > Here is the promised Word file with differences between version 3=20 > > and 4 >=20 > > [2:application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.do > > cument > Show Save:PWID_from_V3_to_V4.docx (81kB)] >=20 > Why not just give the URL to the datatracker's history page for the I-D: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pwid-urn-specification/history/ > and the URL for the diff between v3 and v4, in the format that=20 > basically everybody in the IETF is familiar with: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=3Ddraft-pwid-urn-specification-03&url2 > =3Ddraft-pwid- > urn-specification-04 >=20 > Dale >=20 > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn