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AM5PR04MB2948 X-TM-SNTS-SMTP: 5C067D1C01F3A073A729C9B427BF6309FF45CCF15987A2D5EB7EE7D07E7881472000:8 X-OriginatorOrg: bertelsmann.de X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-06-05_06:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] IANA URN-Namespace Registration Arvato Systems X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 07:38:22 -0000 Good morning, I was wondering, whether there is any update from your side regarding our r= egistration of a URN-namespace. A short update would be really nice. Regards, Britta -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: J=FCrgenschellert, Britta, NMA-SD=20 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. April 2019 11:49 An: Peter Saint-Andre ; urn@ietf.org Betreff: RE: [urn] IANA URN-Namespace Registration Arvato Systems Hello Peter, thank you so much for your answer, it is really helpful for us!=20 We are well aware that we are "just" a corporation and not a standards deve= lopment organization or consortium, however, in the European Union (from ne= xt year on also in Russia) our system plays a central role in reporting sta= tus updates of drugs to the respective authorities. This is why a major par= t of the pharmaceutical industry is going to use our vocabulary. Currently = the EPCIS CBV does not cover all the information that is required by the au= thorities.=20 If you suggest that we opt for the http-solution instead, this is fine for = us. However, we feel that the entire industry would benefit from a solution= that is aligned with the EPCIS standard that is applied by all our custome= rs anyway. It might also help the industry in developing a standard in the = future. Legislation in the pharmaceutical context is ever changing. With a = namespace that can be applied by the entire industry, we are settled for an= y upcoming requirements. I hope this clarifies why we applied for the URN namespace. Please do not h= esitate to contact me if you have any questions. Kind Regards, Britta=20 -----Original Message----- From: Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 04:29 To: J=FCrgenschellert, Britta, NMA-SD ; urn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [urn] IANA URN-Namespace Registration Arvato Systems Hallo Britta, Thanks for your note. As you can see from the list of formal URN namespaces= registered to date [1], namespace identifiers have been granted only to st= andards development organizations, industry consortia, scientific societies= , scholarly initiatives, and the like. In general, we encourage [2] corpora= tions to use URIs (e.g., http URIs) in which the authority component (RFC 3= 986, =A73.2) includes a domain name under the control of the corporation, s= uch as: https://www.arvato-systems.com/schemas/foo Is there a particular reason why you feel that a URN would be more appropri= ate in your case? If you wish to provide information that would be useful f= or an entire industry, is there perhaps a consortium that could register a = URN namespace that would meet your needs? Kind Regards, Peter [1] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.iana.org_ass= ignments_urn-2Dnamespaces_urn-2Dnamespaces.xhtml&d=3DDwID-g&c=3Dvo2ie5TPcLd= cgWuLVH4y8lsbGPqIayH3XbK3gK82Oco&r=3DEINMvfwHJQ3Z7sRv87erN-nYhswMmvtPrSe3N6= THWzYe6dUmsesyJW1yVaXjTxzk&m=3D4yBLLXw78K3YSIDEA12NRPI_WPnhf7qRVUam8yYPI1k&= s=3DHDvLo2M4ebHAJ8T14mEUu4gD3hbje-jfm-mfHFuqEUI&e=3D [2] Looking again at RFC 8141, I see that we don't explicitly prohibit corp= orations from requesting URN namespaces, but this limitation is perhaps imp= lied by the requirements for community use, long-term stability of the assi= gning organization, etc. If we ever publish an updated specification to rep= lace RFC 8141, we might want to clarify this matter. On 4/17/19 5:52 AM, J=FCrgenschellert, Britta, NMA-SD wrote: > Dear Sirs, >=20 > =A0 >=20 > I am writing you because my company wishes to apply for a IANA URN=20 > namespace. 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[24.233.209.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d17sm151307qtp.84.2019.06.05.17.17.46 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Jun 2019 17:17:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Martin To: urn@ietf.org Message-ID: <6c9a05a7-bae3-0dc8-47d0-5ebd3f778e69@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 20:17:45 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F2DD79BE6D0C0CA67BC69889" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 18:33:59 -0700 Subject: [urn] Draft URN namespace assignment request X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 01:13:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2DD79BE6D0C0CA67BC69889 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Namespace Identifier: Assigned by IANA Version: 1 Date: 2019-06-05 Registrant: Alexander L. Martin alexbuzzbee@gmail.com Purpose: Identifies a resource with a name assigned by an arbitrary, non-centrally-registered authority, allowing the generation of URNs by applications and entities that do not have or do not wish to use a domain name, email address, or other registered identifier, but that still wish to use a human-readable name. Syntax: The syntactical structure of this namespace's NSS is identical to that of the 'uuid' namespace, with the addition of a human-readable name following a colon, like so: urn:urn-N:0fce65b6-bf2d-4dde-8e78-ef50d9d67a1e:foobar-xml-namespace The UUID serves as an "authority identifier" that prevents collisions between names assigned by different authorities. Each authority generates its own authority identifier, and can then assign an unlimited number of names using that authority identifier. URN-equivalence is as described in section 3 of RFC 4122 (under the heading "Rules for Lexical Equivalence") for UUIDs, and in section 3.1 of RFC 8141 for all other components. The structure and meaning of q-components, r-components, and f-components are not defined here, but may be defined by later specifications that make use of the namespace. Assignment: Each authority wishing to assign names generates a UUID. It then includes that UUID as the authority identifier in each name it assigns. The nature of UUIDs ensures that authority identifiers will not conflict unless the UUIDs are generated improperly. Security and Privacy: The UUID could serve to identify a particular entity if used many times, but the assigning authority could simply generate a new UUID to change its identity. Additionally, the UUID would not reveal information other than by correlating names assigned by the same authority, unless that UUID is somehow known to associate with a specific entity. Interoperability: There are no known interoperability concerns. Resolution: Because of the decentralized nature of UUIDs, a single resolution method is impossible. It may be possible for later specifications using the namespace to specify a resolution method. Documentation: This document. Additional Information: While both this namespace and 'uuid' make use of UUIDs, 'uuid' contains only a UUID, while this namespace also contains a human-readable name. Due to this, this namespace may, and likely will, use the same UUID for multiple names. An alternate possibility for fulfilment of the same need would be to update RFC 4122 in order to allow the use of a q-component or f-component to give a human-readable name. However, this would necessarily result in a violation of section 3.1 of RFC 8141, to wit: If an r-component, q-component, or f-component (or any combination thereof) is included in a URN, it MUST be ignored for purposes of determining URN-equivalence. --------------F2DD79BE6D0C0CA67BC69889 Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; name="pEpkey.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pEpkey.asc" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- mQENBFxc65MBCADWyeIMpRT4n8qnfSY3wJ4dXlBwoj6qQXAapfYJ1qQPsMvAxDH6 c8pHqlsstgdyAyMyEFgBLRjipxAGfaNoUhV1MVOC6OGw2eiMqWm0nuBADk1GIYmy v1XkRxq5WhTb2y16dEpgNMLxf0uIddRd5zqNtaaE2qcDMfjM2pAID6BjwLy2UPpP PMuzSnllowtDqauI5uUWPOcU3IIr/WXNEOGpu0EJZX2D6I7t9Cr1QLYybDKiPfSF KXiT8QaR0b0J3S5StJz18X1zC0NksnqpNTrQ24cIpc5bnQt1/8eiGcgbCgOfgS0V HS24qQHXudGqXMeLKnMRVkfuETiKBi0rImezABEBAAG0KEFsZXhhbmRlciBNYXJ0 aW4gPGFsZXhidXp6YmVlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAVQEEwEIAD4WIQQxqF+3TVWmZWpa cApNcCl78ar8VQUCXFzrlAIbAwUJAeEzgAULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIX gAAKCRBNcCl78ar8VbjzB/9kmzacIa9v66EFiqUW7++tj6+Kh/JzJcJhwKMa35sk KQPVSe0q5Fb9qgREDWyG9Y4E9hLvo6u6DO4MBw/H+bd0QmZ/XhesLeE0SoHCEaJL H5JChEA4qpOLOjW8M7tsx/wkOeofHuzAEzU3p4M+UDTvL/Izpu82Mn/bmYpv4T1n sfVFKGP9JRv6nflHtvGnHgBkLsQbzQA7YyjFQ5aGYfNLOSMef4AE73OrNNfLoCfR 1cjGJlhDPCeXNc7QpDhvR6Z8CZPphbNi6JfWfGbnKnbn7Pb4Zomli/gskRmf0pIm esnc9sF73Zub6ol83vSreA3uitD79lwCjF4o1+vtEZdMuQENBFxc65MBCACoRLnG wqOijwu8opgLY0fM/+nMTCT41sh+J9zgtdTXz0FWKrMGW7eFxmyt1DawjAjhrSk9 X3o93cw0Wnhren28/CqrEzeVX7qRQq3AM035UkqZSLdDERgl7xSEXxDf0Y4xGgX/ 10lDdoe4rf0E53+fPPg0iUgwy+vp2qjYFrJIqZr03Trza8WGZxkErEqkBsLGOWEl 0UvTkKWwlgqargcGsItrp+eG5IZyzrdFCmQMk8UOz89ULW9ZGCC8OOm31XBOVLJO RsWIGUePd7UkDsBwYrhLiFMrrcbPBuSO75ZtnxX+GRQNutOrQq0iEnUgOCZt7TDy 16YXxPur0r69OS1bABEBAAGJATwEGAEIACYWIQQxqF+3TVWmZWpacApNcCl78ar8 VQUCXFzrkwIbDAUJAeEzgAAKCRBNcCl78ar8VWeMB/9+iWQ1k3LWVZSexrUkjpwp G/VeaSNtYo69+uE28dAUQc10oB8zpaiy/lqU1QrP2Vjd2G2m7RDIAXh4bWSUNYHq HFDntidiUKO7qDThF/ZCxCEAkWMjFK5UPGQPgXiQGQaAj1hQpjle2K5H1v20fAlw F1MB6CUtNodaqhHgapdomIYfoQjetMYpJMI4dC59Sk3gLXjiqyJzSNOrLikT16GU 6J/yjJM+3BkTKp9LWAIGLcuV7GI8np5lBDL2XUFWSFOqrAxyYQO8gK6GwZfhj0Yq W0bkBBtaRmyZHmnfujsxqqBE11mGQBSv3xybY+SkH+BD+U6IpgmOHwIFhna8tqw1 =3DE2Rm -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- --------------F2DD79BE6D0C0CA67BC69889-- From nobody Thu Jun 6 03:44:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65A5120224 for ; 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[79.44.11.243]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c12sm1523251wmb.1.2019.06.06.03.44.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jun 2019 03:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Enrico Francesconi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Enrico Francesconi In-Reply-To: <98e208d5-a6e2-fc24-6259-73e49d725ae5@mozilla.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 12:44:41 +0200 Cc: Pierluigi Spinosa , Alexey Melnikov , LUPO Caterina , urn@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <301FFB03-36A5-402C-A240-F1C217BE35F9@ittig.cnr.it> References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> <2e9c9bb1-0e82-b02d-a920-62d319888e37@mozilla.com> <98e208d5-a6e2-fc24-6259-73e49d725ae5@mozilla.com> To: Peter Saint-Andre X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2019 10:44:48 -0000 Dear Peter and Alexey, we have just received by the "Agenzia per l=E2=80=99Italia Digitale" = (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for information = technologies in the public administration, a request for news about the = status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an IETF = standard in an official recommendation for Italian public = administrations aimed to be publish by next July. We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the = publication procedure as RFC. Thanks a lot for your collaboration! Best regards Enrico --- Enrico Francesconi ITTIG - CNR Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques Italian National Research Council Via de' Barucci 20 50127 Florence Italy Tel: +39-055-4399-665 Fax: +39-055-4399-605 email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre = wrote: >=20 > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published as = an > informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen > through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears > that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG). >=20 > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps for > this registration. >=20 > Peter >=20 > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >> Dear Dale and Peter, >> are there any news about the actual registration at IANA of the = urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13? >>=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/ >>=20 >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation! >> Best regards >>=20 >> Pierluigi and Enrico >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Enrico Francesconi >> ITTIG - CNR >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques >> Italian National Research Council >>=20 >> Via de' Barucci 20 >> 50127 Florence >> Italy >>=20 >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665 >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605 >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it >> --------------------------------------------------------- >>=20 >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring = Area >>> Director. >>>=20 >>> Peter >>>=20 >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. >>>>=20 >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >>>>> Dear Dale, >>>>> thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? >>>>> Best >>>>> Enrico >>>>>=20 >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley = >>>> > ha scritto: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Enrico Francesconi >>>> > writes: >>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), = we >>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before = to >>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the = URN:LEX >>>>>> namespace. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell from = reviewing >>>>> the discussion at >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, = we have >>>>> consensus to register the namespace based on = draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, >>>>> but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it that = notifies >>>>> IANA? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Dale >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> urn mailing list >>>> urn@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >>>>=20 >>=20 From nobody Sat Jun 15 02:12:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB8C12008A for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:12:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.198, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dTdJspfFyv82 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-f47.google.com (mail-io1-f47.google.com [209.85.166.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85E7D120020 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f47.google.com with SMTP id k8so11147529iot.1 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dpGXlZzFpSLpk99CMXbc/9olPtwp+3MK5NUpAhFYExk=; b=BmulMUcaj3sZcoJq4Y0592cZL1jZYQvsXvwTJn1ArzRVYcXjXWvEZI8GnztiAObavv o63WXGcOL2zOO4rVvIlHWeKlhM8YPynXHIFXXXHYSR/emsgwjvCGJHHYhm3Ks1v9kAyh 6vwe6SoPoSWuZLkw+LzXZQra5c0EaywGU2wKM383Z5i0FEI88CdY6uht2oaLS5cCuLx8 xLyZs3KzCxxMX7uBTQa/yKS+nKncsNDRELt51XkRmGk2Gj0cuV4EkCuPYdPNat2wI2Mg L0uLErWL6JlVf2oJ5+uoWYQYhVXsdgYoN5PN4oDvVQgMj8ah4/IF/dJOFUy3jGs41HWC ZZ9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVSvXxDJTre9R3cTgytpPmU99dFbl9yPfz2cpAvgRNjH2dKJ1pC 4Siy21FRzmGfC4Ar4WW5a01EmVYcundoTFgGNG4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz/3yBuRJ1rZvtrt70pHxBGgblfi8QUJecZPi26BhD8+KQnpSdUuY4FkgSy1zQA44ViXUhYKA1XW0QnI1BZhk0= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:890d:: with SMTP id b13mr31490977ion.124.1560589962560; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:12:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> <2e9c9bb1-0e82-b02d-a920-62d319888e37@mozilla.com> <98e208d5-a6e2-fc24-6259-73e49d725ae5@mozilla.com> <301FFB03-36A5-402C-A240-F1C217BE35F9@ittig.cnr.it> In-Reply-To: <301FFB03-36A5-402C-A240-F1C217BE35F9@ittig.cnr.it> From: Enrico Francesconi Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 11:12:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: Peter Saint-Andre Cc: Pierluigi Spinosa , Alexey Melnikov , LUPO Caterina , urn@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005bc84c058b592ac3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:12:46 -0000 --0000000000005bc84c058b592ac3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I was contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be released. I do appreciate your feedback on that, thanks! Best regards Enrico Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi ha scritto: > Dear Peter and Alexey, > we have just received by the "Agenzia per l=E2=80=99Italia Digitale" (= Agency > for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for information technologies = in > the public administration, a request for news about the status of URN:LEX= . > They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an IETF standard in an official > recommendation for Italian public administrations aimed to be publish by > next July. > We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the > publication procedure as RFC. > > Thanks a lot for your collaboration! > Best regards > > Enrico > > > --- > Enrico Francesconi > ITTIG - CNR > Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > Italian National Research Council > > Via de' Barucci 20 > 50127 Florence > Italy > > Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > > > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > > > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published as an > > informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen > > through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker > > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears > > that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG). > > > > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps for > > this registration. > > > > Peter > > > > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > >> Dear Dale and Peter, > >> are there any news about the actual registration at IANA of the > urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13? > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/ > >> > >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation! > >> Best regards > >> > >> Pierluigi and Enrico > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> Enrico Francesconi > >> ITTIG - CNR > >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > >> Italian National Research Council > >> > >> Via de' Barucci 20 > >> 50127 Florence > >> Italy > >> > >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre > wrote: > >>> > >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring Area > >>> Director. > >>> > >>> Peter > >>> > >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. > >>>> > >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > >>>>> Dear Dale, > >>>>> thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the > >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? > >>>>> Best > >>>>> Enrico > >>>>> > >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley >>>>> > ha scritto: > >>>>> > >>>>> Enrico Francesconi >>>>> > writes: > >>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communication (June 2018), = we > >>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is needed before t= o > >>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the > URN:LEX > >>>>>> namespace. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell from > reviewing > >>>>> the discussion at > >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, > we have > >>>>> consensus to register the namespace based on > draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, > >>>>> but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it that > notifies > >>>>> IANA? > >>>>> > >>>>> Dale > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> urn mailing list > >>>> urn@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > >>>> > >> > > --0000000000005bc84c058b592ac3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0sorry = to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I was contacted agai= n about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the official recommendat= ion mentioned in my message below is about to be released.
I do appreciate your feedback on that,
thanks= !

Best regards
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico

Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico= Francesconi <francesconi@it= tig.cnr.it> ha scritto:
Dear= Peter and Alexey,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0we have just received by the "Agenzia per l=E2=80=99Itali= a Digitale" (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for in= formation technologies in the public administration, a request for news abo= ut the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an IETF= standard in an official recommendation for Italian public administrations = aimed to be publish by next July.
We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the publication= procedure as RFC.

Thanks a lot for your collaboration!
Best regards

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico


---
Enrico Francesconi
ITTIG - CNR
Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
Italian National Research Council

Via de' Barucci 20
50127 Florence
Italy

Tel: +39-055-4399-665
Fax: +39-055-4399-605
email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it

> On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published as a= n
> informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen > through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker<= br> > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears=
> that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG).
>
> Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps = for
> this registration.
>
> Peter
>
> On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
>> Dear Dale and Peter,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0are there any news about the actual registration at IA= NA of the urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13?
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your cooperation!
>> Best regards
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Pierluigi and Enrico
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Enrico Francesconi
>> ITTIG - CNR
>> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques
>> Italian National Research Council
>>
>> Via de' Barucci 20
>> 50127 Florence
>> Italy
>>
>> Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>> Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozil= la.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the = sponsoring Area
>>> Director.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IAN= A.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
>>>>> Dear Dale,
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don= 9;t know who is the
>>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary?
>>>>> Best
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley <wo= rley@ariadne.com
>>>>> <mailto:worley@ariadne.com>> ha scritto:<= br> >>>>>
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@i= ttig.cnr.it
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it<= /a>>> writes:
>>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communicati= on (June 2018), we
>>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is= needed before to
>>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental"= ; registration of the URN:LEX
>>>>>> namespace.
>>>>>
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.=C2= =A0 As far as I can tell from reviewing
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0the discussion at
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html,= we have
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0consensus to register the namespace based = on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0but we haven't actually notified IANA = of that.=C2=A0 Who is it that notifies
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0IANA?
>>>>>
>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Dale
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> urn mailing list
>>>> urn@ietf.org
>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/l= istinfo/urn
>>>>
>>

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Sat, 15 Jun 2019 09:49:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Enrico Francesconi , Peter Saint-Andre Cc: urn@ietf.org, Alexey Melnikov , LUPO Caterina , Pierluigi Spinosa References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> <2e9c9bb1-0e82-b02d-a920-62d319888e37@mozilla.com> <98e208d5-a6e2-fc24-6259-73e49d725ae5@mozilla.com> <301FFB03-36A5-402C-A240-F1C217BE35F9@ittig.cnr.it> From: Peter Saint-Andre Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=stpeter@stpeter.im; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFETDzsBEAC0FOv1N3ZJzIIxN6cKD475KVS9CHDPeYpegcOIPnL5eY1DCHeh/IwS1S7R CePtmiybNoV9FsI4PKUknzXQxA6LVEdAR/LUlhgJKjq+gsgp8lqbEILhg13ecH66HwLS9rar bQkC47T7kL8miIPBFC6E3A4Lq1L+eueO6UcLhKgoYkMxOjdiWrMgKTnVpch5ydLkPm/z0Zo8 zRgqlPuTLeCrXXZYnjHXLVFN2xy04UzOs7P5u5KVfx5Z7uQisr8pXtyLd6SpTZo6SHgKBv15 uz0rqXhsJojiGtOXfWznAjaS5FUOORq9CklG5cMOUAT8TNftv0ktsxaWDL1ELDVQPy1m7mtz o+VREG+0xmU6AjMo/GHblW1UU7MI9yCiuMLsp/HLrFuiosqLVZ85wuLQ2junPe3tK8h15Ucx IXAcpQ1VqIaDQFbeuLOXJTF8YHpHdpHYt/ZM1ll7ZBKGAo8yd7uF7wJ9D3gUazwdz9fFjWV7 oIk7ATwOlFllzmWDn+M2ygbHOGUGMX5hSaa8eDSieiR2QoLdn27Fip7kMBTJ2+GISrfnJTN/ OQvmj0DXXAdxHmu2C4QgmZbkge35n129yzXn9NcqzrGLroV62lL3LgX6cSbiH5i7GgWY6CAP b1pMogV0K475n9FvOSDRiG4QSO5yqKiA3OP5aKrIRp2TNAk4IwARAQABtCZQZXRlciBTYWlu dC1BbmRyZSA8c3RwZXRlckBzdHBldGVyLmltPokCOQQTAQIAIwUCURMPOwIbAwcLCQgHAwIB BhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEOoGpJErxa2p6bgQAKpxu07cMDOLc4+EG8H19NWXIVVy bOEvfGuHYZaLKkPrhrMZwJiOwBpyISNRt9qzX1eLCVaojaoEVX6kD8MGc5zKFfiJZy3j7lBW l+Ybr7FfXYy2BbAXKx49e1n6ci9LmBrmVfAEaxtDNPITZ9N9oUAb9vS0nrG036EwteEHAveQ vlDjO7lhz6+Cv7lZQgBj9rZ6khfcQ4S3nSCQaKLQ9Iav4fqxI7SfuPKnx6quHX3JNLGnVo3w l+j/foCK0iTrmtHxCI3kc/bx6g32pRjHEPX0ALMBhmzU2uca+TE0zCEC96mgYXAUCwdnCFWy beIEbt6pz65iML13kAVAq0H/GqncnMGN0MbOatnw1Tdz/vkLojIy7QbPcQ0plUFxv5491xPf IrHhOWdRXp6WUt88fcqhT6MHZpVRtusj2ornKVVn+Y0GLsMMCTcrXJRG7Ao1YV72t/pJpzfG WSaaxolxDIZ6B+76jrIhUhiWgo/4nf+DN6BIlCZQ6j6xxjjx462cu02kuhIILTk2pzaMOufT BWx0uJhZk/KP2Fay/41pX7pvVOwRC4uIlKsLnJKLPS7EDa4BUUxENfd/9LqOGwlII8BbSe98 PLMI8sXkcigc3UXMVda9ll0YhQa+lbP1NaszmnBhwuiCsgnPGbImsJuRzgEEgckwP/dNeyr6 MlFMyfaeuQINBFETDzsBEADBzOsEHpUmhkRUjH9Tek87dn5P/Yh/L/HptgCGk40TL/C+kYdk d3HyteMEf061PNmsS/Rq8k37Fu3VODYb9SPYKxtgksKSYUtIkPKvao09K9QNWPqyWuNf0F+i AjVMUudaEVFJ7bHF310RDwLY5IvLeCXxtvG+Vv/i+g77d2WdPDp+zLJ8306C4yBKjSJV8xW0 cn2fd7NviIEN6cNHTsZNDZVMlgYPrxnwSq8GTEPGC7HsLIwGcx3hIe9QjnPw9CpAmQENpDEy WcxgF5uwo2NJECoDswKz1Nb0gfawF3ZIbD+GcLujTu94iJuVg25jATWm9wTgcfZo4UPllRGX dIb8uWwUFQlLQgd4ROLZZtXNGmHIymJrV2crx53gxup+1j0XqhlzKg8xbImWhEfS9oHZkRK8 VHgmWSIt7TNwNir6N5j3lqwWVBhnu6GzF01sKGNySlqNRbd0fqhakCkK71b8ot8tYTcYG5Lg 10z6HTbgQx2UwLthUjqbblDQ+GLmrOhiWklLXRsnlnPMwnEyFePAnsT5tasy2Cn9qjpttNDa h7PB8iFUi9mtTF/XDVgpFaB5G3CDV7Q2NgbAI6g6QhLIAmXzSP635G83mda0TKXHQXHDyLJT Tn+WVFU7t4m4uLt+0DsWU8jXHQWyUTNG9WPUrXhusDUAPHxFCQ/n/lQVBwARAQABiQIfBBgB AgAJBQJREw87AhsMAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pqfgP/ApN+TRu2bBIgaw1dr3AznSSha84DIpXUDh3 udZvQrGbUtz8/mA+e3iZEN/cmmBw2LGlAuQoJNILTZQ318yTP+E5QU7fJH7FVsohUyvrMfyt 3IMA9jg0Z9MuloLezvIjjMfFeNa0ROgDb/ubOT7JQzi1kwN8Lu3lO80HwqBHXEeOLoislUSn ZajRKvITbKWkZ6PHRjlMw1Wk4oIi6VLHgGgj79zzL3uhML2663m7imShvz1QcHTwvyR5i8cZ bNOEkotZyERiA1p7YHuruS+QvTi3ZPoQbnMUB3a7py9d11bw1+w3LiAUGZE/z5hBWOFxYtw+ w/U/Vx0BwJGYlwU3M2W20uEXe+qxz7wnakygKjmLiD2z4njfKjcNCiV3FmXrpmWgADln1c4j fxDh0NrndrsM8FPDf1TMPtOZgFDkKripc9xkZ/25P6xn27oTOHWKcAC0QhxSH+HuVBBRk8Ag F+zAbDZe4/L6+kanSrycIXW+wCzwBq61aWsz2QhhuKjozVkhk4dRG+CfjzAFjnyxwYERn3uX VKQAwTwcdNcTI9RV98IsNrw9Y4lJEAg6CjNPmiD5+EASycqaOuToRSGukr8sOQLWLPyTnez/ aG8Xf7a+fntWzK2HuDYoSDhJJrylWw/lMklOBm4wtMeNA0zcQH6AQV/GzQVQkSGqrLuMVIV/ Message-ID: <4367f5c7-ea15-843e-c5a1-025bd2b59313@stpeter.im> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 07:49:53 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:50:00 -0000 Ciao Enrico, My apologies for the delay. I will reply in this thread and all the others next week. Peter On 6/15/19 3:12 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > Dear All, >    sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I was > contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the > official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be > released. > I do appreciate your feedback on that, > thanks! > > Best regards >    Enrico > > Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi > ha scritto: > > Dear Peter and Alexey, >    we have just received by the "Agenzia per l’Italia Digitale" > (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for information > technologies in the public administration, a request for news about > the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an > IETF standard in an official recommendation for Italian public > administrations aimed to be publish by next July. > We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the > publication procedure as RFC. > > Thanks a lot for your collaboration! > Best regards > >    Enrico > > > --- > Enrico Francesconi > ITTIG - CNR > Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > Italian National Research Council > > Via de' Barucci 20 > 50127 Florence > Italy > > Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > > > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre > wrote: > > > > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published > as an > > informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happen > > through normal processes before publication. However, the datatracker > > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it appears > > that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG). > > > > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps for > > this registration. > > > > Peter > > > > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > >> Dear Dale and Peter, > >>   are there any news about the actual registration at IANA of the > urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13? > >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/ > >> > >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation! > >> Best regards > >> > >>   Pierluigi and Enrico > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> Enrico Francesconi > >> ITTIG - CNR > >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > >> Italian National Research Council > >> > >> Via de' Barucci 20 > >> 50127 Florence > >> Italy > >> > >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre > wrote: > >>> > >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsoring > Area > >>> Director. > >>> > >>> Peter > >>> > >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. > >>>> > >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > >>>>> Dear Dale, > >>>>>   thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the > >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? > >>>>> Best > >>>>>   Enrico > >>>>> > >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley > > >>>>> >> ha > scritto: > >>>>> > >>>>>   Enrico Francesconi > >>>>>    >> writes: > >>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communication (June > 2018), we > >>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is needed > before to > >>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of the > URN:LEX > >>>>>> namespace. > >>>>> > >>>>>   Sorry, we've dropped the ball here.  As far as I can tell > from reviewing > >>>>>   the discussion at > >>>>>  >  https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we > have > >>>>>   consensus to register the namespace based on > draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, > >>>>>   but we haven't actually notified IANA of that.  Who is it > that notifies > >>>>>   IANA? > >>>>> > >>>>>   Dale > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> urn mailing list > >>>> urn@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > >>>> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > From nobody Sat Jun 15 06:57:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: urn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6B1120092 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 06:57:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.198, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VJESdi7WcIMJ for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-f46.google.com (mail-io1-f46.google.com [209.85.166.46]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55685120020 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f46.google.com with SMTP id u19so11911199ior.9 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 06:57:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2COXJz6+6HEN3xRioxCAkm1u3zc7C7NmZAv4jMQRNag=; b=gHrBQNUTtQde+/k2MV53/HR4ddGFeYUoEMGvMK08ctx8MnX8tZApf9rLz9RTcUriWu /O6UulIgSbilBxCiGS7fH0txc0/OISAjgHbdVJNKQomp7fmxOeQ9h7zC5+kEquPc0sid 9abSoKIc2dbzr16oIcnTfze5TY+h1z++rV3vNwOvOi/gJtkUULDmthLWZglXX0pnQIiO B0G0nMhEK/rG85vM421chZemGY7gSwY8feOq05Xuq2dI9JR1HVQQB5H7RGN/PIISpiJ/ 8pq2U+uM8iwB1FCEAQlzZY5Ak9oBwCaWSMygIo3mH/6AC03muHBrt97dDlAKNzpyXFYk X3vQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVyCfJ/m1BgAnuOVn+eoB9xmbQJP1ZX0YlIhYjw9uBbE5112xlF ewtiTEpQ/yDglo7CuFrGSpqfBexU/ZbwuUyfSFY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzBoHHb86nb0+U+W3mmi4fx59+ZBzlYNcVRsxeF99aqujt4vjAnWKi+zvx8BsjOpQxGxGEx+/BITy8H4pFLc58= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9456:: with SMTP id x22mr1656655ior.71.1560607057406; Sat, 15 Jun 2019 06:57:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6BFBDEE4-8D30-462A-A8FE-D284116EC42C@ittig.cnr.it> <87bm5re8ty.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> <1225e8e0-dcfe-29bc-2f0e-850945b7632d@stpeter.im> <2e9c9bb1-0e82-b02d-a920-62d319888e37@mozilla.com> <98e208d5-a6e2-fc24-6259-73e49d725ae5@mozilla.com> <301FFB03-36A5-402C-A240-F1C217BE35F9@ittig.cnr.it> <4367f5c7-ea15-843e-c5a1-025bd2b59313@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4367f5c7-ea15-843e-c5a1-025bd2b59313@stpeter.im> From: Enrico Francesconi Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 15:57:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: Peter Saint-Andre Cc: Peter Saint-Andre , urn@ietf.org, Alexey Melnikov , LUPO Caterina , Pierluigi Spinosa Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004a737d058b5d2570" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] Moving ahead with draft-spinosa-urn-lex X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:57:41 -0000 --0000000000004a737d058b5d2570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ciao Peter, thank you very much for that! Best regards Enrico Il sab 15 giu 2019, 15:50 Peter Saint-Andre ha scritto= : > Ciao Enrico, > > My apologies for the delay. I will reply in this thread and all the > others next week. > > Peter > > On 6/15/19 3:12 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > > Dear All, > > sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I was > > contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the > > official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be > > released. > > I do appreciate your feedback on that, > > thanks! > > > > Best regards > > Enrico > > > > Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi > > ha scritto: > > > > Dear Peter and Alexey, > > we have just received by the "Agenzia per l=E2=80=99Italia Digit= ale" > > (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for information > > technologies in the public administration, a request for news about > > the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an > > IETF standard in an official recommendation for Italian public > > administrations aimed to be publish by next July. > > We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the > > publication procedure as RFC. > > > > Thanks a lot for your collaboration! > > Best regards > > > > Enrico > > > > > > --- > > Enrico Francesconi > > ITTIG - CNR > > Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > > Italian National Research Council > > > > Via de' Barucci 20 > > 50127 Florence > > Italy > > > > Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > > Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > > email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > > > > > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre > > wrote: > > > > > > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published > > as an > > > informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happ= en > > > through normal processes before publication. However, the > datatracker > > > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it > appears > > > that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG). > > > > > > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps > for > > > this registration. > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > > >> Dear Dale and Peter, > > >> are there any news about the actual registration at IANA of th= e > > urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13? > > >> > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/ > > >> > > >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation! > > >> Best regards > > >> > > >> Pierluigi and Enrico > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Enrico Francesconi > > >> ITTIG - CNR > > >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques > > >> Italian National Research Council > > >> > > >> Via de' Barucci 20 > > >> 50127 Florence > > >> Italy > > >> > > >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665 > > >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605 > > >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it > > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsorin= g > > Area > > >>> Director. > > >>> > > >>> Peter > > >>> > > >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > > >>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. > > >>>> > > >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: > > >>>>> Dear Dale, > > >>>>> thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the > > >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? > > >>>>> Best > > >>>>> Enrico > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley > > > > >>>>> >> ha > > scritto: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Enrico Francesconi > > > >>>>> > >> writes: > > >>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communication (June > > 2018), we > > >>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is needed > > before to > > >>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of th= e > > URN:LEX > > >>>>>> namespace. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell > > from reviewing > > >>>>> the discussion at > > >>>>> > > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, w= e > > have > > >>>>> consensus to register the namespace based on > > draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, > > >>>>> but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it > > that notifies > > >>>>> IANA? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dale > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> urn mailing list > > >>>> urn@ietf.org > > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > urn mailing list > > urn@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn > > > > --0000000000004a737d058b5d2570 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ciao Peter,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0thank you = very much for that!

Best= regards
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico


Il sab 15 giu 2019, = 15:50 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@s= tpeter.im> ha scritto:
Ciao = Enrico,

My apologies for the delay. I will reply in this thread and all the
others next week.

Peter

On 6/15/19 3:12 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
> Dear All,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you beca= use I was
> contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the > official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be > released.
> I do appreciate your feedback on that,
> thanks!
>
> Best regards
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico
>
> Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@itti= g.cnr.it
> <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>> ha scritto:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Dear Peter and Alexey,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0we have just received by the "Age= nzia per l=E2=80=99Italia Digitale"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority= for information
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0technologies in the public administration, a reques= t for news about
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference = to URN:LEX as an
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0IETF standard in an official recommendation for Ita= lian public
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0administrations aimed to be publish by next July. >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the s= tatus of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publication procedure as RFC.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks a lot for your collaboration!
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best regards
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0---
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico Francesconi
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ITTIG - CNR
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Institute of Legal Information Theory and Technique= s
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Italian National Research Council
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Via de' Barucci 20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A050127 Florence
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Italy
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it <mailt= o:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre <= ;stpeter@mozilla.com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote:<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is inten= ded to be published
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0as an
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> informational RFC, in which case the IANA regi= stration would happen
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> through normal processes before publication. H= owever, the datatracker
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up = (specifically it appears
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> that he needs to create the writeup for ballot= ing by the IESG).
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Alexey, please let us know if we're mistak= en about the next steps for
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> this registration.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> Peter
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Dear Dale and Peter,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0are there any news about the a= ctual registration at IANA of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13= ?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> h= ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Thanks a lot for your cooperation!
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Best regards
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Pierluigi and Enrico
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> ------------------------------------------= ---------------
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Enrico Francesconi
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> ITTIG - CNR
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Institute of Legal Information Theory and = Techniques
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Italian National Research Council
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Via de' Barucci 20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> 50127 Florence
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Italy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it = <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>> ------------------------------------------= ---------------
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-= Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote:<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Ale= xey, since he's the sponsoring
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Area
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Director.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> Peter
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre= wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> In my role as URN review team lead= , I will contact the IANA.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico France= sconi wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>> Dear Dale,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0thanks for your fe= edback! Frankly I don't know who is the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>> responsible, is it maybe the i= etf secretary?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>> Best
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:= 13 Dale R. Worley
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<worley@ariadne.com <mailto:worley@ariadn= e.com>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>> <mailto:worley@ariadne.com<= /a> <mailto:worley@ariadne.com>>> ha
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scritto:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Enrico Francesconi= <francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:f= rancesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>&g= t;> writes:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>> being quite a long time si= nce the last communication (June
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02018), we
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>> were wondering whether any= action from our side is needed
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0before to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>> proceed with the so called= "experimental" registration of the
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0URN:LEX
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>> namespace.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sorry, we've d= ropped the ball here.=C2=A0 As far as I can tell
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0from reviewing
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0the discussion at<= br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0have
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0consensus to regis= ter the namespace based on
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0but we haven't= actually notified IANA of that.=C2=A0 Who is it
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that notifies
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0IANA?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Dale
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> __________________________________= _____________
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> urn mailing list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> urn@ietf.org <mailto:urn@ietf.org&g= t;
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>> https:/= /www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>>>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> urn mailing list
> u= rn@ietf.org
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Sent from mobile, might be terse=20 > On Jun 15, 2019, at 6:57 AM, Enrico Francesconi = wrote: >=20 > Ciao Peter, > thank you very much for that! >=20 > Best regards > Enrico >=20 >=20 > Il sab 15 giu 2019, 15:50 Peter Saint-Andre ha scritt= o: >> Ciao Enrico, >>=20 >> My apologies for the delay. I will reply in this thread and all the >> others next week. >>=20 >> Peter >>=20 >> On 6/15/19 3:12 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >> > Dear All, >> > sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I was >> > contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the >> > official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be >> > released. >> > I do appreciate your feedback on that, >> > thanks! >> >=20 >> > Best regards >> > Enrico >> >=20 >> > Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi > > > ha scritto: >> >=20 >> > Dear Peter and Alexey, >> > we have just received by the "Agenzia per l=E2=80=99Italia Digit= ale" >> > (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority for information= >> > technologies in the public administration, a request for news about= >> > the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference to URN:LEX as an= >> > IETF standard in an official recommendation for Italian public >> > administrations aimed to be publish by next July. >> > We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the status of the >> > publication procedure as RFC. >> >=20 >> > Thanks a lot for your collaboration! >> > Best regards >> >=20 >> > Enrico >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > --- >> > Enrico Francesconi >> > ITTIG - CNR >> > Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques >> > Italian National Research Council >> >=20 >> > Via de' Barucci 20 >> > 50127 Florence >> > Italy >> >=20 >> > Tel: +39-055-4399-665 >> > Fax: +39-055-4399-605 >> > email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it >> >=20 >> > > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre > > > wrote: >> > > >> > > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intended to be published= >> > as an >> > > informational RFC, in which case the IANA registration would happ= en >> > > through normal processes before publication. However, the datatra= cker >> > > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (specifically it ap= pears >> > > that he needs to create the writeup for balloting by the IESG). >> > > >> > > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken about the next steps= for >> > > this registration. >> > > >> > > Peter >> > > >> > > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >> > >> Dear Dale and Peter, >> > >> are there any news about the actual registration at IANA of th= e >> > urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13? >> > >> >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/ >> > >> >> > >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation! >> > >> Best regards >> > >> >> > >> Pierluigi and Enrico >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> Enrico Francesconi >> > >> ITTIG - CNR >> > >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques >> > >> Italian National Research Council >> > >> >> > >> Via de' Barucci 20 >> > >> 50127 Florence >> > >> Italy >> > >> >> > >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665 >> > >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605 >> > >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> > >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-Andre > > > wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, since he's the sponsorin= g >> > Area >> > >>> Director. >> > >>> >> > >>> Peter >> > >>> >> > >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> > >>>> In my role as URN review team lead, I will contact the IANA. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >> > >>>>> Dear Dale, >> > >>>>> thanks for your feedback! Frankly I don't know who is the >> > >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ietf secretary? >> > >>>>> Best >> > >>>>> Enrico >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:13 Dale R. Worley >> > >> > >>>>> >> ha >> > scritto: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Enrico Francesconi > > >> > >>>>> > > >> writes: >> > >>>>>> being quite a long time since the last communication (June >> > 2018), we >> > >>>>>> were wondering whether any action from our side is needed >> > before to >> > >>>>>> proceed with the so called "experimental" registration of th= e >> > URN:LEX >> > >>>>>> namespace. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Sorry, we've dropped the ball here. As far as I can tell >> > from reviewing >> > >>>>> the discussion at >> > >>>>>=20 >> > https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, w= e >> > have >> > >>>>> consensus to register the namespace based on >> > draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13, >> > >>>>> but we haven't actually notified IANA of that. Who is it >> > that notifies >> > >>>>> IANA? >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Dale >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> urn mailing list >> > >>>> urn@ietf.org >> > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >> > >>>> >> > >> >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > urn mailing list >> > urn@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn >> >=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail-75F9AEDA-43D7-49FB-8A01-3A95F0C46A3C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unfortunately I will need to do this next w= eek, but I have put time on my calendar to make sure it happens!

Sent from mobile, might be terse = ;
Ciao Peter,
   thank you very much fo= r that!

Best regards
   Enrico


Il sab 15 giu 2019, 15:50 Peter Sai= nt-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>= ; ha scritto:
Ciao Enrico,

My apologies for the delay. I will reply in this thread and all the
others next week.

Peter

On 6/15/19 3:12 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote:
> Dear All,
>    sorry to disturb you again, I'm just back to you because I= was
> contacted again about the status of the possible urn:lex rfc, as the > official recommendation mentioned in my message below is about to be > released.
> I do appreciate your feedback on that,
> thanks!
>
> Best regards
>    Enrico
>
> Il gio 6 giu 2019, 12:44 Enrico Francesconi <francesconi@ittig.= cnr.it
> <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>> ha scritto:
>
>     Dear Peter and Alexey,
>        we have just received by the "Agenzia p= er l=E2=80=99Italia Digitale"
>     (Agency for Digital Italy, AGID), Italian authority f= or information
>     technologies in the public administration, a request= for news about
>     the status of URN:LEX. They wish to make reference t= o URN:LEX as an
>     IETF standard in an official recommendation for Ital= ian public
>     administrations aimed to be publish by next July. >     We take therefore this opportunity to ask you the st= atus of the
>     publication procedure as RFC.
>
>     Thanks a lot for your collaboration!
>     Best regards
>
>        Enrico
>
>
>     ---
>     Enrico Francesconi
>     ITTIG - CNR
>     Institute of Legal Information Theory and Techniques=
>     Italian National Research Council
>
>     Via de' Barucci 20
>     50127 Florence
>     Italy
>
>     Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>     Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>     email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it <mailto:= francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>
>     > On 5 Mar 2019, at 02:41, Peter Saint-Andre <= = stpeter@mozilla.com
>     <mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote: >     >
>     > As far as I know, this Internet-Draft is intend= ed to be published
>     as an
>     > informational RFC, in which case the IANA regis= tration would happen
>     > through normal processes before publication. Ho= wever, the datatracker
>     > page indicates that Alexey needs to follow up (= specifically it appears
>     > that he needs to create the writeup for balloti= ng by the IESG).
>     >
>     > Alexey, please let us know if we're mistaken ab= out the next steps for
>     > this registration.
>     >
>     > Peter
>     >
>     > On 3/4/19 11:19 AM, Enrico Francesconi wrote: >     >> Dear Dale and Peter,
>     >>   are there any news about the ac= tual registration at IANA of the
>     urn:lex namespace based on draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13?=
>     >>
>     >> htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spinosa-urn-lex/
>     >>
>     >> Thanks a lot for your cooperation!
>     >> Best regards
>     >>
>     >>   Pierluigi and Enrico
>     >>
>     >> -------------------------------------------= --------------
>     >> Enrico Francesconi
>     >> ITTIG - CNR
>     >> Institute of Legal Information Theory and T= echniques
>     >> Italian National Research Council
>     >>
>     >> Via de' Barucci 20
>     >> 50127 Florence
>     >> Italy
>     >>
>     >> Tel: +39-055-4399-665
>     >> Fax: +39-055-4399-605
>     >> email: francesconi@ittig.cnr.it &l= t;mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
>     >> -------------------------------------------= --------------
>     >>
>     >>> On 12 dic 2018, at 18:30, Peter Saint-A= ndre <stpeter@mozilla.com
>     <mailto:stpeter@mozilla.com>> wrote: >     >>>
>     >>> Actually, I'll coordinate with Alexey, s= ince he's the sponsoring
>     Area
>     >>> Director.
>     >>>
>     >>> Peter
>     >>>
>     >>> On 12/12/18 7:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre w= rote:
>     >>>> In my role as URN review team lead,= I will contact the IANA.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> On 12/12/18 7:35 AM, Enrico Frances= coni wrote:
>     >>>>> Dear Dale,
>     >>>>>   thanks for your fee= dback! Frankly I don't know who is the
>     >>>>> responsible, is it maybe the ie= tf secretary?
>     >>>>> Best
>     >>>>>   Enrico
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Il giorno mer 12 dic 2018, 04:1= 3 Dale R. Worley
>     <worley@ariadne.com <mailto:worley@ariadne.c= om>
>     >>>>> <mailto:worley@ariadne.com <mailto:worley@ariadne.com>>> ha
>     scritto:
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>   Enrico Francesconi &= lt;francesconi@ittig.cnr.it
>     <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>
= >     >>>>>   <mailto:franc= esconi@ittig.cnr.it
>     <mailto:francesconi@ittig.cnr.it>>= > writes:
>     >>>>>> being quite a long time sin= ce the last communication (June
>     2018), we
>     >>>>>> were wondering whether any a= ction from our side is needed
>     before to
>     >>>>>> proceed with the so called "= experimental" registration of the
>     URN:LEX
>     >>>>>> namespace.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>   Sorry, we've droppe= d the ball here.  As far as I can tell
>     from reviewing
>     >>>>>   the discussion at >     >>>>> 
>      https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/urn/current/maillist.html, we >     have
>     >>>>>   consensus to regist= er the namespace based on
>     draft-spinosa-urn-lex-13,
>     >>>>>   but we haven't actu= ally notified IANA of that.  Who is it
>     that notifies
>     >>>>>   IANA?
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>   Dale
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> ___________________________________= ____________
>     >>>> urn mailing list
>     >>>> urn@ietf.org <mailto:urn@ietf.org><= br> >     >>>> https://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn
>     >>>>
>     >>
>
>
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Worley" Cc: urn@ietf.org, "Smith, Neel" , "cwblackwell@gmail.com" References: <87bm2ncp8s.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> From: Peter Saint-Andre Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=stpeter@stpeter.im; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFETDzsBEAC0FOv1N3ZJzIIxN6cKD475KVS9CHDPeYpegcOIPnL5eY1DCHeh/IwS1S7R CePtmiybNoV9FsI4PKUknzXQxA6LVEdAR/LUlhgJKjq+gsgp8lqbEILhg13ecH66HwLS9rar bQkC47T7kL8miIPBFC6E3A4Lq1L+eueO6UcLhKgoYkMxOjdiWrMgKTnVpch5ydLkPm/z0Zo8 zRgqlPuTLeCrXXZYnjHXLVFN2xy04UzOs7P5u5KVfx5Z7uQisr8pXtyLd6SpTZo6SHgKBv15 uz0rqXhsJojiGtOXfWznAjaS5FUOORq9CklG5cMOUAT8TNftv0ktsxaWDL1ELDVQPy1m7mtz o+VREG+0xmU6AjMo/GHblW1UU7MI9yCiuMLsp/HLrFuiosqLVZ85wuLQ2junPe3tK8h15Ucx IXAcpQ1VqIaDQFbeuLOXJTF8YHpHdpHYt/ZM1ll7ZBKGAo8yd7uF7wJ9D3gUazwdz9fFjWV7 oIk7ATwOlFllzmWDn+M2ygbHOGUGMX5hSaa8eDSieiR2QoLdn27Fip7kMBTJ2+GISrfnJTN/ OQvmj0DXXAdxHmu2C4QgmZbkge35n129yzXn9NcqzrGLroV62lL3LgX6cSbiH5i7GgWY6CAP b1pMogV0K475n9FvOSDRiG4QSO5yqKiA3OP5aKrIRp2TNAk4IwARAQABtCZQZXRlciBTYWlu dC1BbmRyZSA8c3RwZXRlckBzdHBldGVyLmltPokCOQQTAQIAIwUCURMPOwIbAwcLCQgHAwIB BhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEOoGpJErxa2p6bgQAKpxu07cMDOLc4+EG8H19NWXIVVy bOEvfGuHYZaLKkPrhrMZwJiOwBpyISNRt9qzX1eLCVaojaoEVX6kD8MGc5zKFfiJZy3j7lBW l+Ybr7FfXYy2BbAXKx49e1n6ci9LmBrmVfAEaxtDNPITZ9N9oUAb9vS0nrG036EwteEHAveQ vlDjO7lhz6+Cv7lZQgBj9rZ6khfcQ4S3nSCQaKLQ9Iav4fqxI7SfuPKnx6quHX3JNLGnVo3w l+j/foCK0iTrmtHxCI3kc/bx6g32pRjHEPX0ALMBhmzU2uca+TE0zCEC96mgYXAUCwdnCFWy beIEbt6pz65iML13kAVAq0H/GqncnMGN0MbOatnw1Tdz/vkLojIy7QbPcQ0plUFxv5491xPf IrHhOWdRXp6WUt88fcqhT6MHZpVRtusj2ornKVVn+Y0GLsMMCTcrXJRG7Ao1YV72t/pJpzfG WSaaxolxDIZ6B+76jrIhUhiWgo/4nf+DN6BIlCZQ6j6xxjjx462cu02kuhIILTk2pzaMOufT BWx0uJhZk/KP2Fay/41pX7pvVOwRC4uIlKsLnJKLPS7EDa4BUUxENfd/9LqOGwlII8BbSe98 PLMI8sXkcigc3UXMVda9ll0YhQa+lbP1NaszmnBhwuiCsgnPGbImsJuRzgEEgckwP/dNeyr6 MlFMyfaeuQINBFETDzsBEADBzOsEHpUmhkRUjH9Tek87dn5P/Yh/L/HptgCGk40TL/C+kYdk d3HyteMEf061PNmsS/Rq8k37Fu3VODYb9SPYKxtgksKSYUtIkPKvao09K9QNWPqyWuNf0F+i AjVMUudaEVFJ7bHF310RDwLY5IvLeCXxtvG+Vv/i+g77d2WdPDp+zLJ8306C4yBKjSJV8xW0 cn2fd7NviIEN6cNHTsZNDZVMlgYPrxnwSq8GTEPGC7HsLIwGcx3hIe9QjnPw9CpAmQENpDEy WcxgF5uwo2NJECoDswKz1Nb0gfawF3ZIbD+GcLujTu94iJuVg25jATWm9wTgcfZo4UPllRGX dIb8uWwUFQlLQgd4ROLZZtXNGmHIymJrV2crx53gxup+1j0XqhlzKg8xbImWhEfS9oHZkRK8 VHgmWSIt7TNwNir6N5j3lqwWVBhnu6GzF01sKGNySlqNRbd0fqhakCkK71b8ot8tYTcYG5Lg 10z6HTbgQx2UwLthUjqbblDQ+GLmrOhiWklLXRsnlnPMwnEyFePAnsT5tasy2Cn9qjpttNDa h7PB8iFUi9mtTF/XDVgpFaB5G3CDV7Q2NgbAI6g6QhLIAmXzSP635G83mda0TKXHQXHDyLJT Tn+WVFU7t4m4uLt+0DsWU8jXHQWyUTNG9WPUrXhusDUAPHxFCQ/n/lQVBwARAQABiQIfBBgB AgAJBQJREw87AhsMAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pqfgP/ApN+TRu2bBIgaw1dr3AznSSha84DIpXUDh3 udZvQrGbUtz8/mA+e3iZEN/cmmBw2LGlAuQoJNILTZQ318yTP+E5QU7fJH7FVsohUyvrMfyt 3IMA9jg0Z9MuloLezvIjjMfFeNa0ROgDb/ubOT7JQzi1kwN8Lu3lO80HwqBHXEeOLoislUSn ZajRKvITbKWkZ6PHRjlMw1Wk4oIi6VLHgGgj79zzL3uhML2663m7imShvz1QcHTwvyR5i8cZ bNOEkotZyERiA1p7YHuruS+QvTi3ZPoQbnMUB3a7py9d11bw1+w3LiAUGZE/z5hBWOFxYtw+ w/U/Vx0BwJGYlwU3M2W20uEXe+qxz7wnakygKjmLiD2z4njfKjcNCiV3FmXrpmWgADln1c4j fxDh0NrndrsM8FPDf1TMPtOZgFDkKripc9xkZ/25P6xn27oTOHWKcAC0QhxSH+HuVBBRk8Ag F+zAbDZe4/L6+kanSrycIXW+wCzwBq61aWsz2QhhuKjozVkhk4dRG+CfjzAFjnyxwYERn3uX VKQAwTwcdNcTI9RV98IsNrw9Y4lJEAg6CjNPmiD5+EASycqaOuToRSGukr8sOQLWLPyTnez/ aG8Xf7a+fntWzK2HuDYoSDhJJrylWw/lMklOBm4wtMeNA0zcQH6AQV/GzQVQkSGqrLuMVIV/ Message-ID: <807bf523-ee1b-0a0b-6526-15223d0faec0@stpeter.im> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:35:22 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87bm2ncp8s.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs X-BeenThere: urn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Revisions to URN RFCs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 21:35:29 -0000 My apologies for the delayed reply. On 3/6/19 8:55 PM, Dale R. Worley wrote: > Comments on these registrations: > > As Julian points out, using '#' as part of the URN assigned-name is > not allowed. > > > CTS URN registration > > CTS URNs provide permanent, canonical, scholarly references to > texts or passages of text associated with the unique cultural > phenomena that humanists study. > > s/unique cultural phenomena/cultural phenomena/ -- I can't see any > manner in which the enormous number of humanistic phenomena are each > "unique". I defer to the registrants on that topic. > Syntax: > > The general structure of a CTS URN is as follows: > > urn:cts:SUBNAMESPACE:WORK:PASSAGE@SUBREFERENCE > > ... > > A detailed definition of CTS syntax can be found at: > > http://cite-architecture.org/ctsurn/ > > Unfortunately, neither this registration nor the pointed-to syntax > definition gives an exact description of the syntax. E.g., at every > location where I noticed a part of the syntax described as "optional", > there was no exact statement regarding what adjacent separating > characters could or could not be omitted. BNF is necessary. ABNF is always good. I'm not sure if the registrants are familiar with ABNF but I'm sure we'd be happy to coach them. > o An optional passage reference refers either to an individual > passage or to a range of passages within a work. [...] > > o An optional subreference identifies a span within a single > citation unit using indexed substrings. [...] > > No assignment process is specified for either of these components. As far as I can see, those constructs would not need formal assignment. Indeed, it's probably best for them to be represented by an f-component: The f-component is intended to be interpreted by the client as a specification for a location within, or region of, the named resource. It distinguishes the constituent parts of a resource named by a URN. Thus we would have URNs like this (note the `#`): urn:cts:SUBNAMESPACE:WORK#PASSAGE@SUBREFERENCE Peter