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From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Tue Nov 14 03:12:03 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA23033 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from hippolyte.radguard.com [192.117.11.9] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A0F8327A019A; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:59:52 -0500 Received: from hellman.radguard.com (unverified) by hippolyte.radguard.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:00:25 +0200 Received: from radguard.com by hellman.radguard.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16264; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:58:38 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <3A10F144.2D4D66FC@radguard.com> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:01:08 +0200 From: Bentzy Weissman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vrrp@drcoffsite.com Subject: VRRP operation over separate segments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does VRRP suppose to work (as is) on separate segments on the same LAN (ATM LAN Emulation, etc'). thanks, Benzi Weissman SW Eng. RADGUARD Ltd. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster@radguard.com This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Tue Nov 14 03:48:16 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id DAA08247 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from southpass.baynetworks.com [134.177.3.16] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB2949040280; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 03:43:21 -0500 Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h016b.s86b1.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.1.107]) by southpass.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA21771; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (ns1.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.85.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06801; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from salhotra.corpindia.baynetworks.com (snail.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.87.19]) by mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09072; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:02:42 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <010301c04e16$409dbbe0$1357fb8d@corpindia.baynetworks.com> From: "Aruneesh Salhotra" To: "Bentzy Weissman" , References: <3A10F144.2D4D66FC@radguard.com> Subject: Re: VRRP operation over separate segments Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:08:18 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bentzy VRRP is supposed to work over different segments, on the same LAN. In case of LANE, the LES will hold the mapping between the VRRP MAC address and the ATM address of the machine acting as the VRRP Master router. Whenever a LEC has to send data to the VRRP IP address, it will first get the VRRP MAC address for the same using IP ARP, and then using LE_ARP, it will get the ATM address of the VRRP Master Router. All this is supportive of the fact, that VRRP works over different segments present on the same LAN. Aruneesh (Nortel Networks.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bentzy Weissman" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: VRRP operation over separate segments > Hi, > > Does VRRP suppose to work (as is) on separate segments on the same LAN > (ATM LAN Emulation, etc'). > > > thanks, > > Benzi Weissman > SW Eng. > RADGUARD Ltd. > > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. 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I'm just starting to get to know VRRP.As I was reading the different RFC's , I ran into some questions. Can anyone tell me where there's any forum I can advise with , ask question,etc ?. Any reference ? 10x, Regards, Amnon Even Zohar Atidim Technological Park, Bldg.4 Tel-Aviv 61131, Israel Tel: 972-3-645-8595 Fax: 972-3-648-7368 E-mail: amnonE@radlan.co.il From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Sun Nov 19 10:01:37 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA10183 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.barak.net.il [206.49.94.213] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A8E3296601C2; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:51:15 -0500 Received: from messenger.rnd.co.il ([209.88.194.205]) by mail.barak.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA19913 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:51:22 +0200 (IST) Received: by MESSENGER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:47:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: Amnon Even-zohar To: "'Vrrp mailing list'" Subject: A VRRP Scenario Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:45:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Hi ! Suppose a virtual router is configured with more then one backUp.Since none of the VRRP routers is the IP Address owner ,none of them has a priority of 255 but any other value.Lets say they own a consecutive priority.(like 100,101,102). Now the master is down.The router with priority 100 is declared as the master.After a while the original master is up again. My question : With what priority will the original master send its advertisment ?.Why ? Does it remember it used to be the original master ?.If so. how ? 10x for your time, Regards, Amnon Even Zohar Atidim Technological Park, Bldg.4 Tel-Aviv 61131, Israel Tel: 972-3-645-8595 Fax: 972-3-648-7368 E-mail: amnonE@radlan.co.il From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Sun Nov 19 12:24:45 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA11324 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id ABDA2AD01B8; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:20:26 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id JAA17735; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id eAJHKP014536; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:20:25 -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:20:25 -0800 Nokia Silicon Valley Email Exploit Scanner Received: from Ihinden-5.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.22.78, claiming to be "spruce.iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com(WTS.12.69) smtpdaSL9iF; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:20:20 PST Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001119091741.02164840@mailhost.iprg.nokia.com> X-Sender: hinden@mailhost.iprg.nokia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:18:23 -0800 To: Amnon Even-zohar From: Bob Hinden Subject: Re: Reference Cc: "'Vrrp mailing list'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com You found it (e.g., vrrp mailing list). Bob At 11:01 AM 11/19/2000 +0200, Amnon Even-zohar wrote: >Hi ! >I'm just starting to get to know VRRP.As I was reading the different RFC's >, I ran into some questions. >Can anyone tell me where there's any forum I can advise with , ask >question,etc ?. Any reference ? >10x, From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Sun Nov 19 12:32:52 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA11378 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AD9DA0240108; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:27:57 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id JAA17868; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id eAJHS1O15920; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:01 -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:28:01 -0800 Nokia Silicon Valley Email Exploit Scanner Received: from Ihinden-5.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.22.78, claiming to be "spruce.iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com(WTS.12.69) smtpdNeAbly; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:27:57 PST Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001119092006.0214b630@mailhost.iprg.nokia.com> X-Sender: hinden@mailhost.iprg.nokia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:26:01 -0800 To: Amnon Even-zohar From: Bob Hinden Subject: Re: A VRRP Scenario Cc: "'Vrrp mailing list'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Amnon, In your example if the "original master" had a higher priority than 100, it would be come master again. It does not remember it used to be the original master. Bob At 04:45 PM 11/19/2000 +0200, Amnon Even-zohar wrote: >Hi ! >Suppose a virtual router is configured with more then one backUp.Since >none of the VRRP routers is the IP Address owner ,none of them has a >priority of 255 but any other value.Lets say they own a consecutive >priority.(like 100,101,102). >Now the master is down.The router with priority 100 is declared as the >master.After a while the original master is up again. > >My question : With what priority will the original master send its >advertisment ?.Why ? > Does it remember it used to be the original master ?.If > so. how ? From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Sun Nov 19 14:02:35 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA11912 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ertpg14e1.nortelnetworks.com [47.234.0.35] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2904FD4028E; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:57:20 -0500 Received: from zsc4c000.us.nortel.com by ertpg14e1.nortelnetworks.com; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:56:44 -0500 Received: by zsc4c000.us.nortel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.35) id ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:56:39 -0800 Message-ID: <6F303E756050D3119C4C0008C7917D00022DCBE4@zbl6c000.corpeast.baynetworks.com> From: "Adnan Onart" To: "'Bob Hinden'" , Amnon Even-zohar Cc: "'Vrrp mailing list'" Subject: RE: A VRRP Scenario Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:56:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.35) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0525A.725BB180" Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0525A.725BB180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bob, 1) Doesn't this depend also on the value of pre-emption flag? 2) Although there is nothing wrong with Ammon's example, isn't advisable to "spread out" priority numbers to avoid unintended race conditions? Clarifications are appreciated. Best regards, Adnan -----Original Message----- From: Bob Hinden [mailto:hinden@IPRG.nokia.com] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:26 PM To: Amnon Even-zohar Cc: 'Vrrp mailing list' Subject: Re: A VRRP Scenario Amnon, In your example if the "original master" had a higher priority than 100, it would be come master again. It does not remember it used to be the original master. Bob At 04:45 PM 11/19/2000 +0200, Amnon Even-zohar wrote: >Hi ! >Suppose a virtual router is configured with more then one backUp.Since >none of the VRRP routers is the IP Address owner ,none of them has a >priority of 255 but any other value.Lets say they own a consecutive >priority.(like 100,101,102). >Now the master is down.The router with priority 100 is declared as the >master.After a while the original master is up again. > >My question : With what priority will the original master send its >advertisment ?.Why ? > Does it remember it used to be the original master ?.If > so. how ? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0525A.725BB180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: A VRRP Scenario

Bob,

1) Doesn't this depend also on the value of = pre-emption flag?
2) Although there is nothing wrong with Ammon's = example, isn't advisable to "spread out"
        priority = numbers to avoid unintended race conditions?

Clarifications are appreciated.

Best regards,

Adnan


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Hinden [mailto:hinden@IPRG.nokia.com]<= /FONT>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:26 PM
To: Amnon Even-zohar
Cc: 'Vrrp mailing list'
Subject: Re: A VRRP Scenario


Amnon,

In your example if the "original master" = had a higher priority than 100, it
would be come master again.  It does not = remember it used to be the
original master.

Bob


At 04:45 PM 11/19/2000 +0200, Amnon Even-zohar = wrote:
>Hi !
>Suppose a virtual router is configured with more = then one backUp.Since
>none of the VRRP routers is the IP Address owner = ,none of them has a
>priority of 255 but any other value.Lets = say  they own a consecutive
>priority.(like 100,101,102).
>Now the master is down.The router with priority = 100 is declared as the
>master.After a while the original master is up = again.
>
>My question :  With what priority will the = original master send its
>advertisment ?.Why ?
>          = ;         Does it remember it = used to be the original master ?.If
> so. how ?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0525A.725BB180-- From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Sun Nov 19 14:32:27 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA12119 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A99A7D6D01A6; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:27:22 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id LAA21521; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id eAJJRM414121; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:27:22 -0800 X-Virus-Scanned: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:27:22 -0800 Nokia Silicon Valley Email Exploit Scanner Received: from Ihinden-5.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.22.78, claiming to be "spruce.iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com(WTS.12.69) smtpddRUxVj; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:27:18 PST Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001119112100.02163158@mailhost.iprg.nokia.com> X-Sender: hinden@mailhost.iprg.nokia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:25:12 -0800 To: "Adnan Onart" From: Bob Hinden Subject: RE: A VRRP Scenario Cc: "'Bob Hinden'" , Amnon Even-zohar , "'Vrrp mailing list'" In-Reply-To: <6F303E756050D3119C4C0008C7917D00022DCBE4@zbl6c000.corpeast .baynetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Adnan, >1) Doesn't this depend also on the value of pre-emption flag? Yes. >2) Although there is nothing wrong with Ammon's example, isn't advisable >to "spread out" > priority numbers to avoid unintended race conditions? The finite state machine in the protocol doesn't care. To avoid configuration errors it is a good idea. Bob From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Sun Nov 19 23:43:50 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id XAA17447 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from southpass.baynetworks.com [134.177.3.16] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9E4EC7D0298; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:34:44 -0500 Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h016b.s86b1.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.1.107]) by southpass.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA10193; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (ns1.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.85.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22985; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from salhotra.corpindia.baynetworks.com (snail.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.87.19]) by mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21828; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:57:51 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <00b901c052aa$fd3375e0$1357fb8d@corpindia.baynetworks.com> From: "Aruneesh Salhotra" To: "Amnon Even-zohar" , "'Vrrp mailing list'" References: Subject: Re: A VRRP Scenario Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:03:09 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Amnon The scenario you have described in your query is a basic example of VRRP in action. When the master is up, it keeps sending VRRP advertisments declaring its priority. Every VRRP router, listens to the advertisments, and whenever one detects that it hasnt received a VRRP advertisments in a configurabe time period, it starts sending adevertisments. No VRRP router remembers the status of the router at any point of time. The only FSM it maintains is the last VRRP operation, slave or master. Now when the router with priority 102 becomes the master router, it is in control of VRRP IP. When the original VRRP Master router (priority 255) comes up again, it sends a VRRP advertisment, and takes on the VRRP master router. If you have any more questions in this respect, please do let me know. Aruneesh Nortel Networks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amnon Even-zohar" To: "'Vrrp mailing list'" Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 8:15 PM Subject: A VRRP Scenario > Hi ! > Suppose a virtual router is configured with more then one backUp.Since none of the VRRP routers is the IP Address owner ,none of them has a priority of 255 but any other value.Lets say they own a consecutive priority.(like 100,101,102). > Now the master is down.The router with priority 100 is declared as the master.After a while the original master is up again. > > My question : With what priority will the original master send its advertisment ?.Why ? > Does it remember it used to be the original master ?.If so. how ? > > 10x for your time, > Regards, > > Amnon Even Zohar > Atidim Technological Park, Bldg.4 > Tel-Aviv 61131, Israel > Tel: 972-3-645-8595 > Fax: 972-3-648-7368 > E-mail: amnonE@radlan.co.il > > > > From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Mon Nov 20 02:16:42 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id CAA02014 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from baynet.baynetworks.com [134.177.3.20] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id ADC2C1D8029C; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:07:46 -0500 Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h016b.s86b1.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.1.107]) by baynet.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA16085; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (ns1.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.85.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04456; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 23:05:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from salhotra.corpindia.baynetworks.com (snail.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.87.19]) by mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00410; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:30:49 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <00fa01c052c0$5cc22640$1357fb8d@corpindia.baynetworks.com> From: "Aruneesh Salhotra" To: "Amnon Even-zohar" Cc: References: Subject: Re: A VRRP Scenario Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:36:06 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Amnon, Ya, it would be a good idea if you send your questions, and i can answer them, taking one at a time. Regarding the priorities, it really does not matter what the priority of a particular router is. The important factor is the time period in which a router has to receive VRRP adevrtisments from a VRRP router (acting as Master), and its own priority. Suppose the master goes down, that means, it wont be able to send any VRRP advertisments. Now, the FSM of the backup VRRP routers, will time out not receiving any VRRP advertisments, and thus feel that there are no other routers in picture, and will send VRRP advertisments. Now if a particular time goes by, and it receives no VRRP advertisments from any other VRRP router, it will take on the responsibility of the master VRRP router. It is similar to saying, who takes it first, obviously on basis of VRRP priority. Please feel absolutely free to ask. Cheers Aruneesh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amnon Even-zohar" To: "Salhotra, Arunesh " Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 12:24 PM Subject: RE: A VRRP Scenario > Hi Aruneesh ! > In the scenario I described ,I specificaly wrote that none of the VRRP routers has a priority of 255.Eventhough , u said that (and I quote) : > "..When the original VRRP Master router (priority 255) > comes up again...".Why priority 255 ? Why not priority 102 like it was confgiured originally ?. > > P.S - I have some more questions I gathered during my learning of the VRRP. > Will it be Ok if I'll send u them summerized so u can inspect and answer them ? > Thanks a lot, > Amnon Even Zohar > Atidim Technological Park, Bldg.4 > Tel-Aviv 61131, Israel > Tel: 972-3-645-8595 > Fax: 972-3-648-7368 > E-mail: amnonE@radlan.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aruneesh Salhotra [mailto:salhotra@nortelnetworks.com] > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 6:33 AM > To: Amnon Even-zohar; 'Vrrp mailing list' > Subject: Re: A VRRP Scenario > > > Hi Amnon > The scenario you have described in your query is a basic example of VRRP in > action. > When the master is up, it keeps sending VRRP advertisments declaring its > priority. Every VRRP router, listens to the advertisments, and whenever one > detects that it hasnt received a VRRP advertisments in a configurabe time > period, it starts sending adevertisments. No VRRP router remembers the > status of the router at any point of time. The only FSM it maintains is the > last VRRP operation, slave or master. > Now when the router with priority 102 becomes the master router, it is in > control of VRRP IP. When the original VRRP Master router (priority 255) > comes up again, it sends a VRRP advertisment, and takes on the VRRP master > router. > If you have any more questions in this respect, please do let me know. > Aruneesh > Nortel Networks > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amnon Even-zohar" > To: "'Vrrp mailing list'" > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 8:15 PM > Subject: A VRRP Scenario > > > > Hi ! > > Suppose a virtual router is configured with more then one backUp.Since > none of the VRRP routers is the IP Address owner ,none of them has a > priority of 255 but any other value.Lets say they own a consecutive > priority.(like 100,101,102). > > Now the master is down.The router with priority 100 is declared as the > master.After a while the original master is up again. > > > > My question : With what priority will the original master send its > advertisment ?.Why ? > > Does it remember it used to be the original master ?.If so. how > ? > > > > 10x for your time, > > Regards, > > > > Amnon Even Zohar > > Atidim Technological Park, Bldg.4 > > Tel-Aviv 61131, Israel > > Tel: 972-3-645-8595 > > Fax: 972-3-648-7368 > > E-mail: amnonE@radlan.co.il > > > > > > > > > From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Mon Nov 20 05:27:39 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id FAA03593 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from gg2ns.delhi.tcs.co.in [202.54.61.36] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB3C9C280248; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:21:48 -0500 Received: from MAILGG2.delhi.tcs.co.in (mailgg2 [157.227.2.117]) by gg2ns.delhi.tcs.co.in (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA24411 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:25:02 -0500 (GMT) Received: from nokia_92 ([157.227.2.17]) by MAILGG2.delhi.tcs.co.in (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 6525699D.00393E6F; Fri, 20 Nov 1970 15:55:15 +0530 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:42:54 -0000 Message-ID: <01C05308.8C03FFD0.rajnishm@delhi.tcs.co.in> From: Rajnish Madan To: "'vrrp@drcoffsite.com'" Subject: Vrrp Query. Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:42:52 -0000 Organization: TCS X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 30 TEXT Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Hi All, I have a basic query regarding how the VRRP works. As I understand, the router have its physical MAC address, say X, which a host uses for the communication. The ethernet card will be having this MAC address onto it. All the packets which have this MAC address are being picked and forwarded by the router. Now consider the case in which the VRRPd starts running on R1 as master and is backed up by R2. At this moment R1 starts picking up the packets destined for the Virtual MAC Address, say V (by telling to the hosts thru gratituous ARP). Does this mean that the hardware address of the Ethernet card to be changed to V. If YES 1. What about the hosts which do not have (for any reason) the ARP table modified with IP mapping to V. 2. In case a Router is acting as master for two (the virtual routers), which virtual MAC address the Ethernet card to be set, as both the virtual router will be having their seperate Virtual MAC addresses. If NO 1. Do we need to set the Ethernet card in the promiscuous mode to accept all the packets and filter out depending on the Virtual MAC address. 2. Only the packets with the destination link MAC address as the Virtual address need to be picked by the VRRPd other packets with the physical MAC address or any other MAC address will be handled the same way as they were previuosly when no VRRPd was running. Thanks in advance Rajnish From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Mon Nov 20 06:03:05 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA03911 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 06:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from baynet.baynetworks.com [134.177.3.20] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3AC762501FC; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:57:48 -0500 Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (hd331.s8dfb.BayNetworks.COM [141.251.211.49]) by baynet.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA23517; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (ns1.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.85.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12705; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:01:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from salhotra.corpindia.baynetworks.com (snail.corpindia.baynetworks.com [141.251.87.19]) by mailhost.CorpIndia.BayNetworks.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05977; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:20:39 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <018501c052e0$77d566c0$1357fb8d@corpindia.baynetworks.com> From: "Aruneesh Salhotra" To: "Rajnish Madan" , References: <01C05308.8C03FFD0.rajnishm@delhi.tcs.co.in> Subject: Re: Vrrp Query. Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:25:59 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rajnish There is no activity on the ethernet card, and no physical modifications are made. When the VRRP is up on a running router, the router responds back to ARP request for the VRRP IP with the VRRP MAC address. Whenever a source router wants to send a packet to a machine on its local LAN, it sends a IP ARP to obtain the MAC address of that machine. In this case, it will receive the VRRP MAC. I presume as suggested by you that the ethernet card would be working in the promiscous mode, but i cant guarantee that it true at all. Aruneesh Nortel Networks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajnish Madan" To: Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 9:12 PM Subject: Vrrp Query. > Hi All, > > I have a basic query regarding how the VRRP works. > > As I understand, the router have its physical MAC address, say X, > which a host uses for the communication. The ethernet card will be having > this MAC address onto it. All the packets which have this MAC address are > being picked and forwarded by the router. > > Now consider the case in which the VRRPd starts running on R1 as master and is backed up by R2. > At this moment R1 starts picking up the packets destined for the Virtual MAC Address, > say V (by telling to the hosts thru gratituous ARP). > > Does this mean that the hardware address of the Ethernet card to be changed to V. > If YES > 1. What about the hosts which do not have (for any reason) the ARP table modified with IP mapping to V. > 2. In case a Router is acting as master for two (the virtual routers), which virtual MAC address the Ethernet card > to be set, as both the virtual router will be having their seperate Virtual MAC addresses. > If NO > 1. Do we need to set the Ethernet card in the promiscuous mode to accept all the packets and filter out depending > on the Virtual MAC address. > 2. Only the packets with the destination link MAC address as the Virtual address need to be picked by the VRRPd > other packets with the physical MAC address or any other MAC address will be handled the same way as they > were previuosly when no VRRPd was running. > > Thanks in advance > Rajnish > > > > From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Mon Nov 20 14:46:18 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA02677 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id ADE1701F0196; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:39:13 -0500 Received: from mira-sjcd-3.cisco.com (mira-sjcd-3.cisco.com [171.69.2.17]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14351; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumandra.cisco.com (dhcp-171-68-196-96.cisco.com [171.68.196.96]) by mira-sjcd-3.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACP11877; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:39:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20001120115552.00a45060@mira-sjcd-3.cisco.com> X-Sender: smajee@mira-sjcd-3.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:01:17 -0800 To: Rajnish Madan , "'vrrp@drcoffsite.com'" From: Sumandra Majee Subject: Re: Vrrp Query. In-Reply-To: <01C05308.8C03FFD0.rajnishm@delhi.tcs.co.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com At 03:42 PM 11/20/00 +0000, Rajnish Madan wrote: >Hi All, > >I have a basic query regarding how the VRRP works. > >As I understand, the router have its physical MAC address, say X, >which a host uses for the communication. The ethernet card will be having >this MAC address onto it. All the packets which have this MAC address are >being picked and forwarded by the router. > >Now consider the case in which the VRRPd starts running on R1 as master >and is backed up by R2. >At this moment R1 starts picking up the packets destined for the Virtual >MAC Address, >say V (by telling to the hosts thru gratituous ARP). > >Does this mean that the hardware address of the Ethernet card to be >changed to V. In the implementation I know of the ethernet address is indeed changed to the virtual MAC. There are variant of VRRP where the card is essentially in promiscuous mode. >If YES > 1. What about the hosts which do not have (for any reason) the > ARP table modified with IP mapping to V. > 2. In case a Router is acting as master for two (the virtual > routers), which virtual MAC address the Ethernet card > to be set, as both the virtual router will be having their > seperate Virtual MAC addresses. >If NO > 1. Do we need to set the Ethernet card in the promiscuous mode to > accept all the packets and filter out depending > on the Virtual MAC address. > 2. 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However, by adding a variable period of time (the Skew time is a value between 0 and 1 second), a higher priority Backup router (which has a smaller skew time according to the formula in the RFC) would change state into Master before a lower one. if the differences in the Backup routers priorities are configured properly, there is a good chance that the lower priority backup router would get the new Master's advertisement before his timer fires. 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From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Mon Nov 27 01:13:05 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id BAA27322 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from hippolyte.radguard.com [192.117.11.9] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9DF2196010E; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 01:06:23 -0500 Received: from hellman.radguard.com (unverified) by hippolyte.radguard.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:07:10 +0200 Received: from radguard.com by hellman.radguard.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id IAA18363; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:05:18 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <3A21F9DF.6ABAA94@radguard.com> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:06:24 +0200 From: Bentzy Weissman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vrrp@drcoffsite.com Subject: failover time Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that under some configuration conditions VRRP will be able to supply 50 miliSec failover: switch that ensures slave's line is quite (because of switch port-mapping "directed" to master) - therefore slave won't miss any advr. sent by master with no delay/colision on line. Moreover, I am talking about only 2 devices that closely connected (single segment). Am i wrong ? Bentzy W. Aruneesh Salhotra wrote: > Hi Bentzy > The failover time in case of VRRP should be kept keeping in mind the > round-trip time, and other consideration. > I had worked on supporting VRRP over MPOA. Now, MPOA works over ATM, and > bandwidth is also quite respectable as compared to ethernet, still we had > kept a time of 5secs for the failure time. So i guess bringing the time down > to 50milliseconds would be dangerous, because, because ethernet is a shared > medium, and there is no guarantee, that you will get the chance of sending > packets. SO i guess you should take the worst case scenario, and design the > protocol. Moreover, VRRP doesnt come into action most of time, so keeping > more stress on the backup would be extra processing. I guess concentrating > more on other protocols and issues is better. I understand that in case the > VRRP IP is the only gateway for a LAN (suppose), then becomes imperative > that the change over time is kept mimimal, so as to keep the CSMACD unaware > of the scenario. > Aruneesh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bentzy Weissman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 5:48 PM > Subject: Advertisement_Interval range > > > Hi, > > > > Is anyone knows what is a reasonable range of "Advertisement_Interval" > > parameter so that VRRP will still stay stable. Is 10 miliSec is > > reasonable ? > > I want to reduce failover time from 3 seconds (default) to 50 mili > > seconds. > > > > thanks, > > Bentzy W. > > From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Tue Nov 28 11:04:49 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA06615 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail3.microsoft.com [131.107.3.123] by drcoffsite.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A5F143C0710; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:57:37 -0500 Received: from 157.54.9.100 by mail3.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:56:46 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Received: by inet-imc-03.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:57:43 -0800 Message-ID: <8E937B8C67213B41BB5C87E2C6FCC22312D2F7@red-msg-29.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> From: David Whipple To: "'csgowtham@yahoo.com'" Cc: vrrp@drcoffsite.com Subject: RE: reg VRRP implementation Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:57:27 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com I would probably not be the best person to help with the issues related to implementing VRRP on linux..:-) I have copied the mailing list on this email, maybe someone out there has implemented on Linux, or could be of more help... Thanks. David Whipple. -----Original Message----- From: csgowtham@yahoo.com [mailto:csgowtham@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:17 PM To: David Whipple Subject: reg VRRP implementation Respected Sir, Thank you for your reply. We would like to implement VRRP from the scratch for linux. Any implementation guides or references and *skills required*(for eg: kernel internals) will be of great help to us. Thanking you yours truly, gowtham&group --- David Whipple wrote: > Do you just want to run an existing implementation > or actually write VRRP > from scratch on a new platform? > > Thanks. > David Whipple. > > -----Original Message----- > From: csgowtham@yahoo.com > [mailto:csgowtham@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:00 PM > To: David Whipple > Subject: > > > Respected Sir, > We, a group of 4 undergraduate(Computer > Science and Engineering) students , want to > implement > VRRP in our LAN.We are doing this as our final year > project(3 months). We will be thankful to you if you > could please suggest us the skills we need to > implement VRRP and the feasibility(in 3 months). > Expecting your reply > Thanking you > > Yours truly, > Gowtham & group. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Tue Nov 28 11:49:44 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA27119 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprch1.nortel.com [192.135.215.14] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A07CCF60420; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:42:36 -0500 Received: from zsc4c000.us.nortel.com by smtprch1.nortel.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:34:13 -0600 Received: by zsc4c000.us.nortel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.35) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:34:00 -0800 Message-ID: <6F303E756050D3119C4C0008C7917D00022DCC3E@zbl6c000.corpeast.baynetworks.com> From: "Adnan Onart" To: "'David Whipple'" , "'csgowtham@yahoo.com'" Cc: vrrp@drcoffsite.com Subject: RE: reg VRRP implementation Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:33:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.35) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C05959.01135720" Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05959.01135720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi David, There is an open source VRRP implementation for Linux: vrrpd. Here is a pointer from a previous email exchange. **************** beginning of quote ******* Subject: Re: VRRP implementations... Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:01:21 -0400 From: Jerome Etienne To: vrrp@drcoffsite.com References: 1 , 2 On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:33:10AM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote: > Anyone else who has a VRRP implementation that is not listed, please send > me the info and I will update the file. When i sent the info about my implementation to bob hinden, he encouraged me to send them to the list. It is an opensource implementation of VRRPv2 as specified in rfc2338. It run in userspace under linux. You can find it in http://w3.arobas.net/~jetienne/vrrpd.tgz I doesn't have commercial implementations to test the interoperability, so if any interoperability problems occur, please email me. ************************************* end of quote **** Best regards, ***************************************************************** Adnan Adam Onart | Nortel Networks Phone: (978) 288 6321 | 600 Technology Drive Email: aonart@nortelnetworks.com | Billerica MA 01821 **************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: David Whipple [mailto:dwhipple@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:57 AM To: 'csgowtham@yahoo.com' Cc: vrrp@drcoffsite.com Subject: RE: reg VRRP implementation I would probably not be the best person to help with the issues related to implementing VRRP on linux..:-) I have copied the mailing list on this email, maybe someone out there has implemented on Linux, or could be of more help... Thanks. David Whipple. -----Original Message----- From: csgowtham@yahoo.com [mailto:csgowtham@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:17 PM To: David Whipple Subject: reg VRRP implementation Respected Sir, Thank you for your reply. We would like to implement VRRP from the scratch for linux. Any implementation guides or references and *skills required*(for eg: kernel internals) will be of great help to us. Thanking you yours truly, gowtham&group --- David Whipple wrote: > Do you just want to run an existing implementation > or actually write VRRP > from scratch on a new platform? > > Thanks. > David Whipple. > > -----Original Message----- > From: csgowtham@yahoo.com > [mailto:csgowtham@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:00 PM > To: David Whipple > Subject: > > > Respected Sir, > We, a group of 4 undergraduate(Computer > Science and Engineering) students , want to > implement > VRRP in our LAN.We are doing this as our final year > project(3 months). We will be thankful to you if you > could please suggest us the skills we need to > implement VRRP and the feasibility(in 3 months). > Expecting your reply > Thanking you > > Yours truly, > Gowtham & group. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of > Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05959.01135720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: reg VRRP implementation

Hi David,

There is an open source VRRP implementation for = Linux: vrrpd. Here is a pointer
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Subject:
          &nb= sp; Re: VRRP implementations...
       Date:
          &nb= sp; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 01:01:21 -0400
      From:
          &nb= sp; Jerome Etienne <jetienne@arobas.net>
        To: =
          &nb= sp; vrrp@drcoffsite.com
 References:
          &nb= sp; 1 , 2




On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 10:33:10AM -0700, Bob Hinden = wrote:
> Anyone else who has a VRRP implementation that = is not listed, please send
> me the info and I will update the file.

When i sent the info about my implementation to bob = hinden, he encouraged me
to send them to the list. It is an opensource = implementation of VRRPv2 as
specified in rfc2338. It run in userspace under = linux. You can find it in
http://w3.arobas.net/~jetienne/vrrpd.tgz

I doesn't have commercial implementations to test the = interoperability, so
if any interoperability problems occur, please email = me.

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Best regards,

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Adnan Adam = Onart           &= nbsp;     | Nortel Networks
Phone: (978) 288 = 6321           &n= bsp;            = | 600 Technology Drive
Email: aonart@nortelnetworks.com | Billerica MA = 01821
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Whipple [mailto:dwhipple@microsoft.com= ]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:57 AM
To: 'csgowtham@yahoo.com'
Cc: vrrp@drcoffsite.com
Subject: RE: reg VRRP implementation


I would probably not be the best person to help with = the issues related to
implementing VRRP on linux..:-)

I have copied the mailing list on this email, maybe = someone out there has
implemented on Linux, or could be of more help...

Thanks.
David Whipple.

-----Original Message-----
From: csgowtham@yahoo.com [mailto:csgowtham@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:17 PM
To: David Whipple
Subject: reg VRRP implementation


Respected Sir,
          &nb= sp;  Thank you for your reply. We would like
to implement VRRP from the scratch for linux. = Any
implementation guides or references and  = *skills
required*(for eg: kernel internals) will be of = great
help to us.
Thanking you

yours truly,
gowtham&group
--- David Whipple <dwhipple@microsoft.com> = wrote:
> Do you just want to run an existing = implementation
> or actually write VRRP
> from scratch on a new platform?
>
> Thanks.
> David Whipple.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: csgowtham@yahoo.com
> [mailto:csgowtham@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:00 PM
> To: David Whipple
> Subject:
>
>
> Respected Sir,
>          = ;    We, a group of 4 undergraduate(Computer
> Science and Engineering) students , want = to
> implement
> VRRP in our LAN.We are doing this as our final = year
> project(3 months). We will be thankful to you = if you
> could please suggest us the skills we need = to
> implement VRRP and the feasibility(in 3 = months).
> Expecting your reply
> Thanking you
>
> Yours truly,
> Gowtham & group.
>
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C05959.01135720-- From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Wed Nov 29 16:27:40 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA12220 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.packetengines.com [208.227.187.173] by drcoffsite.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2736F600A8; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:17:39 -0500 Received: from hostr607.alcatel.com by mail2.packetengines.com via smtpd (for dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) with SMTP; 29 Nov 2000 21:17:42 UT Received: by steam with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:16:51 -0800 Message-ID: From: Michelle Jarrett To: "'vrrp@drcoffsite.com'" Subject: real vs virtual associated ip addresses Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:16:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com The vrrp spec says a router becomes master if it owns the associated IP addressES. However, a network "guru" told me that one of the routers can have ONE real ip address configured but that the rest are virtual. Is only one real associated address allowed? Thanks, Michelle Jarrett From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Wed Nov 29 16:39:45 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id QAA16761 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tristero.cryptocourier.com [216.231.56.189] by drcoffsite.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6795530027E; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:34:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 12520 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2000 21:38:14 -0000 Received: from roark.layer8.net (192.168.69.11) by tristero.cryptocourier.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2000 21:38:14 -0000 Received: by roark.layer8.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:23:33 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:23:33 -0800 From: Ben Black To: Michelle Jarrett Cc: vrrp@drcoffsite.com Subject: Re: real vs virtual associated ip addresses Message-ID: <20001129132333.C1117@layer8.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjarrett@ind.alcatel.com on Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 01:16:51PM -0800 Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com i'm not sure i fully understand your question, but here goes. most routers (including servers acting as routers) have a "primary" IP address for an interface and any additional IP addresses are called "secondary" or "alias". this, however is completely irrelevant to VRRP. VRRP makes no distinction between a primary and a secondary address on an interface, as it only cares that a *single* interface on a *single* router is designated as the "owner" (not that it does not say "real", "primary", or any other name that would imply something about the specific router). make sense? ben On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 01:16:51PM -0800, Michelle Jarrett wrote: > The vrrp spec says a router becomes master if it owns the > associated IP addressES. However, a network "guru" told me > that one of the routers can have ONE real ip address configured > but that the rest are virtual. Is only one real associated > address allowed? > > Thanks, > > Michelle Jarrett > From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Thu Nov 30 06:59:55 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA27609 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.barak.net.il [206.49.94.213] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF3D865F02FC; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:51:25 -0500 Received: from messenger.rnd.co.il ([209.88.194.205]) by mail.barak.net.il (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04459 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:51:25 +0200 (IST) Received: by MESSENGER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:47:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: Amnon Even-zohar To: "'Vrrp mailing list'" Subject: SNMP Traps Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:46:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Hi ! Does anybody know what are the traps as referred in RFC 2787 ?. When do they occur ? Under what circumstances ? What should be done when they occur ?. Thank you, Regards, Amnon Even Zohar Atidim Technological Park, Bldg.4 Tel-Aviv 61131, Israel Tel: 972-3-645-8595 Fax: 972-3-648-7368 E-mail: amnonE@radlan.com From VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Thu Nov 30 07:07:06 2000 Received: from drcoffsite.com (dns1.drcoffsite.com [216.177.1.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id HAA00373 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from itc-eml2.lannet.com [194.90.94.231] by drcoffsite.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1C248A20390; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:02:10 -0500 Received: by itc-eml2.lannet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:01:58 +0200 Message-ID: <15F58915DF84D311AC7D0090279AA61423419B@itc-eml2.lannet.com> From: Dan Romascanu To: "'Amnon Even-zohar'" , "'Vrrp mailing list'" Subject: RE: SNMP Traps Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:01:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Sender: VRRP-owner@drcoffsite.com Amnon, The definitions in RFC 2787 seems pretty clear. 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