From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Apr 2 03:36:12 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA00720 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h3290Li16516 for vrrp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 04:00:21 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3290KK16511 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 04:00:20 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA00694 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h328oMK16023; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:50:27 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h328nFK15957 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:49:15 -0500 Received: from fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA00526 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 03:24:34 -0500 (EST) From: ono@kame.net Received: from m7.gw.fujitsu.co.jp ([10.0.50.77]) by fgwmail6.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/Fujitsu Gateway) id h328R1Lh019773 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:27:01 +0900 (envelope-from ono@kame.net) Received: from n6.gw.fujitsu.co.jp by m7.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/Fujitsu Domain Master) id h328QXfG010120 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:27:01 +0900 (envelope-from ono@kame.net) Received: from hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp ([10.0.50.62]) by n6.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (SAVSMTP 3.0.0.44) with SMTP id M2003040217270003221 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:27:00 +0900 Received: from hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h328QAaq014586 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:26:10 +0900 Received: (from ono@localhost) by hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h328QAp7014583; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:26:10 +0900 To: vrrp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Review References: <200212091303.IAA07330@ietf.org> <3DF4D642.569DC21A@nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:26:10 +0900 In-Reply-To: <3DF4D642.569DC21A@nokia.com> (Mukesh Gupta's message of "Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:43:30 -0800") Message-ID: Lines: 34 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.15.18 (based on Oort Gnus v0.18) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.3 (i386-vine-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Moneko: DarkSlateGray Sender: vrrp-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: vrrp-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: vrrp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hi all, I have implemented VRRPv3 for {Free,Net,Open}BSD/KAME and I have some comments to 'draft-ietf-vrrp-ipv6-spec-03.txt'. Most of them seems good for me. I have some comments below. I suggest that a sentence to mention DAD should be included in this draft. ex: Duplicated Address Detection(DAD) for IPv6 link-local address associated with the virtual routerSHOULD(?) be suppressed about . >6.4.1 Initialize > o Send an unsolicited ND Neighbor Advertisement with the Router > Flag (R) set, the Solicited Flag (S) unset, the Override flag > (O) set, the Target Address set to the IPv6 link-local address > of the Virtual Router, and the Target Link Layer address set to > the virtual router MAC address. "IPv6 link-local address of the Virtual Router" sould be "IPv6 link-local address associated with the Virtual Router" There is a same sentence at 6.4.2. >6.4.2 Backup > o Compute and join the Solicited-Node multicast address [ADD-ARH] > for the link-local IPv6 address of the Virtual Router. This sentence doesn't appear at 6.4.1. I think this should be located at 6.4.1 too. -- Hideki ONO _______________________________________________ vrrp mailing list vrrp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Apr 2 13:05:29 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA21081 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h32ITn000324 for vrrp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:29:49 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h32ITnK00321 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:29:49 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA21062 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h32IPLK32481; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:25:23 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h32IOkK32414 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:24:46 -0500 Received: from mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA20829 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:59:55 -0500 (EST) From: Mukesh.Gupta@nokia.com Received: from davir04nok.americas.nokia.com (davir04nok.americas.nokia.com [172.18.242.87]) by mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h32I2MH17226 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:02:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from daebh002.NOE.Nokia.com (unverified) by davir04nok.americas.nokia.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:02:21 -0600 Received: from daebe008.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.18.242.238]) by daebh002.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:01:55 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: RE: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Review Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:00:52 -0600 Message-ID: <7CA3477F476D7F4FB82F02960B79CEBDFD60E7@daebe008.americas.nokia.com> Thread-Topic: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Review Thread-Index: AcL48x86q5NA8I8YSEmKVEpRgsRx3QATl7nA To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2003 18:01:55.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[F29114E0:01C2F941] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h32IOkK32415 Sender: vrrp-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: vrrp-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: vrrp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hideki, Thanks for the comments. Have you implemented any security related features (clear text password or IPsec AH) in VRRPv3 ? I am asking this because we are removing the security from the draft soon. regards Mukesh > -----Original Message----- > From: ext ono@kame.net [mailto:ono@kame.net] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:26 AM > To: vrrp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Review > > > Hi all, > > I have implemented VRRPv3 for {Free,Net,Open}BSD/KAME and I have some > comments to 'draft-ietf-vrrp-ipv6-spec-03.txt'. > > Most of them seems good for me. I have some comments below. > > I suggest that a sentence to mention DAD should be included > in this draft. > > ex: > Duplicated Address Detection(DAD) for IPv6 link-local address > associated with the virtual routerSHOULD(?) be suppressed about . > > >6.4.1 Initialize > > o Send an unsolicited ND Neighbor Advertisement with > the Router > > Flag (R) set, the Solicited Flag (S) unset, the > Override flag > > (O) set, the Target Address set to the IPv6 > link-local address > > of the Virtual Router, and the Target Link Layer > address set to > > the virtual router MAC address. > > "IPv6 link-local address of the Virtual Router" > sould be > "IPv6 link-local address associated with the Virtual Router" > There is a same sentence at 6.4.2. > > >6.4.2 Backup > > o Compute and join the Solicited-Node multicast > address [ADD-ARH] > > for the link-local IPv6 address of the Virtual Router. > > This sentence doesn't appear at 6.4.1. > I think this should be located at 6.4.1 too. > > -- > Hideki ONO > _______________________________________________ > vrrp mailing list > vrrp@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp > _______________________________________________ vrrp mailing list vrrp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Wed Apr 2 17:56:59 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13803 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h32NLON29975 for vrrp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:21:24 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h32NLOK29972 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:21:24 -0500 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13713 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:56:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h32NHBK29541; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:17:12 -0500 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h32NGTK29504 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:16:29 -0500 Received: from fgwmail7.fujitsu.co.jp (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13406 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 17:51:32 -0500 (EST) From: ono@kame.net Received: from m2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp ([10.0.50.72]) by fgwmail7.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/Fujitsu Gateway) id h32Mrweb028342; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:53:58 +0900 (envelope-from ono@kame.net) Received: from n2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp by m2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/Fujitsu Domain Master) id h32MrpF6013844; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:53:58 +0900 (envelope-from ono@kame.net) Received: from hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp ([10.0.50.61]) by n2.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (SAVSMTP 3.0.0.44) with SMTP id M2003040307535730233 ; Thu, 03 Apr 2003 07:53:57 +0900 Received: from hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h32Mr7aq003809; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:53:07 +0900 Received: (from ono@localhost) by hogehoge.soft.net.fujitsu.co.jp (8.12.9/8.12.9) id h32Mr7ww003806; Thu, 3 Apr 2003 07:53:07 +0900 To: Mukesh.Gupta@nokia.com Cc: Subject: Re: [VRRP] VRRPv3 Review References: <7CA3477F476D7F4FB82F02960B79CEBDFD60E7@daebe008.americas.nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.5 - "Awara-Onsen") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 07:53:06 +0900 In-Reply-To: <7CA3477F476D7F4FB82F02960B79CEBDFD60E7@daebe008.americas.nokia.com> (Mukesh.Gupta@nokia.com's message of "Wed, 2 Apr 2003 12:00:52 -0600") Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.15.18 (based on Oort Gnus v0.18) SEMI/1.14.5 (Awara-Onsen) FLIM/1.14.5 (Demachiyanagi) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.3 (i386-vine-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Moneko: DarkSlateGray Sender: vrrp-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: vrrp-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: vrrp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , > Have you implemented any security related features (clear text password or IPsec AH) in VRRPv3 ? I am asking this because we are removing the security from the draft soon. My implementation is based on freevrrpd which has the featrure of clear text password but not IPsec AH. So, clear text password is also available in my implementation. I have no plan to implement IPsec AH. I have no objection to remove the security stuff from the draft. -- Hideki ONO _______________________________________________ vrrp mailing list vrrp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp From mailnull@www1.ietf.org Mon Apr 28 16:40:00 2003 Received: from www1.ietf.org (ietf.org [132.151.1.19] (may be forged)) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA13901 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h3SKiin11921 for vrrp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:44:44 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3SKii811918 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:44:44 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA13875 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AFRY-0005Ge-00 for vrrp-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:41:44 -0400 Received: from ietf.org ([132.151.1.19] helo=www1.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AFRX-0005GX-00 for vrrp-web-archive@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:41:43 -0400 Received: from www1.ietf.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3SKef811819; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:40:44 -0400 Received: from ietf.org (odin.ietf.org [132.151.1.176]) by www1.ietf.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3SKdm811735 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:39:48 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA13801 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Mukesh.Gupta@nokia.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AFMm-0005FS-00 for vrrp@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:36:48 -0400 Received: from mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com ([63.78.179.217]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AFMm-0005FP-00 for vrrp@ietf.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:36:48 -0400 Received: from davir02nok.americas.nokia.com (davir02nok.americas.nokia.com [172.18.242.85]) by mgw-dax2.ext.nokia.com (Switch-2.2.6/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id h3SKbNb20434 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 15:37:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from daebh002.NOE.Nokia.com (unverified) by davir02nok.americas.nokia.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 15:37:17 -0500 Received: from daebe009.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.18.242.190]) by daebh002.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6139); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 15:36:30 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 15:36:30 -0500 Message-ID: <8D260779A766FB4A9C1739A476F84FA42AC5C6@daebe009.americas.nokia.com> Thread-Topic: WG Milestones. Thread-Index: AcMNwx52Jl1Vhm2hTMKWRSMdTDQrrwAAoVNg To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2003 20:36:30.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[D99058A0:01C30DC5] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www1.ietf.org id h3SKdm811736 Subject: [VRRP] WG Milestones. Sender: vrrp-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: vrrp-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: vrrp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, I am planning to update the WG milestones with the following. If any of you disagree or have any comments, please let me know. DONE Charter Working Group. DONE Issue new Internet Drafts for IPv4 version of the protocol. DONE Issue Internet Draft for IPv6 version of VRRP. DONE Review and finalize IPv4 Internet Drafts. DONE Submit revised IPv4 Internet Drafts to IESG for proposed standard. DONE Issue VRRP MIB drafts. DONE Issue revised draft for IPv6 version of VRRP. DONE Finalize MIB draft and submit to IESG. DONE Resolve open issues with authentication methods. MAY 03 Issue VRRPv3 (VRRP for IPv6) MIB drafts. JUN 03 Submit updated version of VRRP (IPv4) to IESG for Draft Standard. AUG 03 Submit VRRPv3 (VRRP for IPv6) for Proposed Standard. SEP 03 Submit VRRPv3 MIB for Proposed Standard. DEC 03 Review the WG goals and future potential. regards Mukesh _______________________________________________ vrrp mailing list vrrp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vrrp