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This looks like an interesting work to be done. Just as non-blocking comments:

1) the milestones are really aggressive (and perhaps unrealistic)

2) when talking about "owners of the WebTransport API" this would be worth
adding a reference to those owners.

Good luck and fair winds to this potential new WG

-éric




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I agree with Ben that it would seem appropriate to mention HTTP somewhere in
the charter.

I'm also a bit worried that this work is so closely coupled to the work on the
WebTransport API of another SoD that is further still in an unclear state. But
I also don't have a good solution to that. Probably correct to start with
requirement in this case...

I would like to see the relationship of this new group to taps clarified in the
charter!




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> I agree with Ben that it would seem appropriate to mention HTTP somewhere in
> the charter.

The charter talks about "web" and explicitly mentions connecting to
HTTPbis.  What more is important here?  Please suggest text.

> I would like to see the relationship of this new group to taps clarified in the
> charter!

Please suggest text.

Barry


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Please see inline.

> On 5. Mar 2020, at 14:56, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>=20
>> I agree with Ben that it would seem appropriate to mention HTTP =
somewhere in
>> the charter.
>=20
> The charter talks about "web" and explicitly mentions connecting to
> HTTPbis.  What more is important here?  Please suggest text.
>=20
I would have expected more information in the second paragraph. However, =
as I would like to see more information to actually understand what the =
plan regarding to use or extending HTTP, I can proposed text.


>> I would like to see the relationship of this new group to taps =
clarified in the
>> charter!
>=20
> Please suggest text.

Same here, I would like to know what the plan/intention/relationship is.=20=


Mirja


>=20
> Barry
>=20
>=20


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A new IETF WG has been formed in the Applications and Real-Time Area. For
additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs.

WebTransport (webtrans)
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Current status: Proposed WG

Chairs:
  Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com>
  David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>

Assigned Area Director:
  Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>

Applications and Real-Time Area Directors:
  Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
  Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
  Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>

Mailing list:
  Address: webtransport@ietf.org
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Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/webtrans/

Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-webtrans/

Description of Working Group

The WebTransport working group will define new client-server protocols or
protocol extensions in order to support the development of the WebTransport
API https://wicg.github.io/web-transport.

The WebTransport working group will define an application-layer protocol
or suite of application-layer protocols that support a range of simple
communication methods. These must include unreliable messages (that might
be limited by the path MTU), reliable messages, and ordered streams of
reliable messages. Attention will be paid to the performance of the
protocol, with particular attention to the protocol’s overhead and the
potential for head-of-line blocking; its ability to be deployed and used
reliably under different network conditions; and its ability to integrate
into the Web security model. The working group will not define new
transport protocols but will instead use existing protocols such as QUIC
and TLS/TCP.

The group will pay attention to security issues arising from the above
scenarios so as to protect against creation of new modes of attack.

To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the
group will initially develop an overview document containing use cases
and requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort. The
requirements will include those arising from the WebTransport API.
Feedback will also be solicited at various points along the way in order
to ensure the best possible match between the protocol extensions and the
needs of the WebTransport API.

The group will also coordinate with related working groups within the IETF,
such as QUIC and HTTPBIS, as appropriate.  In particular, if the working
group needs any changes to or extensions of the core protocols, those
issues will be raised with the relevant working groups for decisions on how
best to handle them.  If those decisions result in work in WebTrans, the
working group last calls for that work will again be sent to the relevant
working groups.  The group also needs to coordinate with TAPS, as they are
working on related message-based APIs and it's important to make sure there
aren't conflicts and/or duplications.

Milestones:

  Mar 2020 - Adopt a WebTransport Overview draft as a WG work item

  Mar 2020 - Adopt a draft defining a WebTransport protocol as a WG work item

  Oct 2020 - Issue WG last call of the WebTransport Overview document.

  Jan 2021 - Issue WG last call on the first WebTransport protocol document




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As you probably know, WEBTRANS will not be meeting at IETF 107 on March
23.  Instead, as noted by the IESG in the message below, WEBTRANS WG will
have a virtual meeting on Friday, March 27 from 22:10 - 00:10 (UTC).  This
corresponds to 15:10 - 17:10 Pacific Time.

More on meeting parameters will be forthcoming.  In the meantime, please
send any requests for agenda time to webtrans-chairs@ietf.org.

Bernard
For the Chairs
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [107all] IETF 107 Virtual Meeting Agenda

We have created a virtual IETF 107 agenda because the in-person meeting was
cancelled. This is a detailed email that explains our choices. Please read
it to the end.

We prioritized the scheduling of BOFs, working groups meeting for the first
time, and dispatch-style working groups. Existing working groups should
know how to progress their work via email and (virtual) interims, and many
of them have a solid basis to do that with participants who have been
collaborating together for a long time. But BOFs and new WGs do not have
that established working mode and usually benefit from dedicated meeting
time for bootstrapping purposes, as well as from a participant base drawn
from all IETF areas. Similarly, dispatch-style groups are aiming to
dispatch new work that otherwise has not seen much previous discussion.

The virtual agenda is as follows, with all times listed in UTC:

Monday, March 23
20:00-22:00 TXAUTH
22:10-00:10 DISPATCH

Tuesday, March 24
20:00-22:00 ADD, RAW
22:10-00:10 MASQUE

Wednesday, March 25
20:00-21:30 WPACK, DRIP
21:40-22:40 GENDISPATCH
22:50-00:30 Plenary

Thursday, March 26
20:00-22:00 PRIVACYPASS
22:10-00:10 RIPT

Friday, March 27
20:00-22:00 SECDISPATCH
22:10-00:10 WEBTRANS

The total meeting block for WG and BOF sessions amounts to:

Pacific Time                   13:00-17:10  (17:30 on Weds)
Eastern Time               16:00-20:10  (20:30 on Weds)
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Australian Eastern Standard Time       07:00-11:10  (11:30 on Weds)

We will be using Webex for all of these sessions. We will be posting
training materials and online resources in an FAQ on the IETF web site next
week for those who are unfamiliar with Webex.

This agenda, with links to the Webex sessions, will appear in the
datatracker shortly. If you plan to attend any of these sessions and you
are not already registered for IETF 107, we encourage you to register as a
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There will not be any other working group meetings, area meetings, or
research group meetings scheduled between March 23 and March 27. HotRFC is
cancelled. We are not providing virtual replacements for side meetings. The
organizers of the Hackathon and the Code Sprint are working on virtual
support for those events and they will communicate separately about those.

We are aiming to provide a =E2=80=9Challway=E2=80=9D Webex meeting where pa=
rticipants can
go to test audio and other Webex features and to find others who are
attending IETF 107 virtually. The hallway@jabber.ietf.org jabber room will
also continue to be available. More information about these will be
available on the FAQ page next week.

There are many trade-offs involved in scheduling an all-virtual meeting. We
will be pleased if the BOFs on the agenda are able to form WGs after this.
But if not, the virtual BOF will not count as one attempt against the usual
allotment of two attempts to form a WG, given the unusual circumstances.

RFC 8713, which specifies the NomCom process, relies heavily on there being
three meetings per year known as the first, second, and third meetings,
respectively. We consider the virtual IETF 107 to be the first IETF meeting
of 2020. We will be seating the new members of the 2020-2021 IESG, IAB, and
IETF LLC Board at the virtual plenary. We are considering the implications
of the cancelled Vancouver meeting for NomCom volunteer qualification
specified in RFC 8713 Section 4.14 and we will be inviting community
discussion about that soon.

We chose to focus this agenda on the 4.5 hours between 20:00 UTC and 00:30
UTC. Because we anticipate having relatively few participants for the
scheduled sessions located in the part of the world between Europe and
China, this schedule aims to give the most participants an opportunity to
experience =E2=80=9Cnight time=E2=80=9D -- albeit abbreviated -- even if th=
ey wish to
participate in the meeting multiple days in a row. We consulted with the
chairs of the listed sessions when we were crafting this agenda to check if
they thought that many of their expected participants would be
disadvantaged by the slots chosen. They thought these slots were workable.

We are preparing for an increased volume of virtual interim meetings in
April and beyond. We will share more information about strategies for
avoiding conflicts and ensuring fairness in scheduling of virtual interims
next week. Until then, we would like to ask chairs to refrain from
scheduling virtual interims.

We understand that the agenda above is far from ideal. We know that some
people reserved a whole week for IETF work and that week will now appear
empty, and we know that working late into the night, working overnight, or
getting up very early will be unpleasant or infeasible for some. We
understand that when people join meetings from home, other commitments may
interfere. We know there are many in our community with novel ideas about
how to run virtual meetings, and these should be explored further. With the
agenda above, we did the best we could given the rapidly changing
conditions. We do not expect any of the decisions we made for this meeting
to set a precedent for future meetings.

It was very evident to the IESG in the course of developing this agenda
that we lack consensus-based community recommendations about how to deal
with the inherent difficulties of scheduling virtual meetings given time
zone differences. After IETF 107, we will figure out the best way to work
with those interested in the community on this topic, perhaps via the
manycouches mailing list, GENDISPATCH, a BOF, or other ways.

Feel free to send questions and comments to iesg@ietf.org. We may not be
able to respond immediately since we are busier than usual at the moment as
we prepare for the virtual meeting and the seating of the new IESG members.

Regards,
The IESG

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>As you probably know, WEBTRANS will not be meeting at=
 IETF 107 on March 23.=C2=A0 Instead, as noted by the IESG in the message b=
elow, WEBTRANS WG will have a virtual meeting on Friday, March 27 from 22:1=
0 - 00:10 (UTC).=C2=A0 This corresponds to 15:10 - 17:10 Pacific Time.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>More on meeting parameters will be forthcoming=
.=C2=A0 In the meantime, please send any requests for agenda time to <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:webtrans-chairs@ietf.org">webtrans-chairs@ietf.org</a>.=C2=A0</=
div><div><br></div><div>Bernard</div><div>For the Chairs</div><div><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">___________________________=
_____________</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><=
span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">From: 107all &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:107all-bounces@ietf.org">107all-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; on =
behalf of The IESG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:iesg@ietf.org">iesg@ietf.org</a>&g=
t;</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020=
 11:34 AM</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">To: IETF Announcement Li=
st</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:ietf@iet=
f.org">ietf@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:107all@ietf.org">107all@ietf.or=
g</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:irtf-announce@ietf.org">irtf-announce@ietf.org</a>=
</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Subject: [EXTERNAL] [107all] IETF=
 107 Virtual Meeting Agenda</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-siz=
e:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">We have created a virtual I=
ETF 107 agenda because the in-person meeting was cancelled. This is a detai=
led email that explains our choices. Please read it to the end.</span><br s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,=
49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14=
.6667px">We prioritized the scheduling of BOFs, working groups meeting for =
the first time, and dispatch-style working groups. Existing working groups =
should know how to progress their work via email and (virtual) interims, an=
d many of them have a solid basis to do that with participants who have bee=
n collaborating together for a long time. But BOFs and new WGs do not have =
that established working mode and usually benefit from dedicated meeting ti=
me for bootstrapping purposes, as well as from a participant base drawn fro=
m all IETF areas. Similarly, dispatch-style groups are aiming to dispatch n=
ew work that otherwise has not seen much previous discussion.</span><br sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49=
,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6=
667px">The virtual agenda is as follows, with all times listed in UTC:</spa=
n><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:=
rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-=
size:14.6667px">Monday, March 23</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);fon=
t-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">2=
0:00-22:00 TXAUTH</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667p=
x"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">22:10-00:10 DISP=
ATCH</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=
=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49=
,48);font-size:14.6667px">Tuesday, March 24</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50=
,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:1=
4.6667px">20:00-22:00 ADD, RAW</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-=
size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">22:=
10-00:10 MASQUE</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"=
><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Wednesday, March 25</span><br style=3D"=
color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48)=
;font-size:14.6667px">20:00-21:30 WPACK, DRIP</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(=
50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size=
:14.6667px">21:40-22:40 GENDISPATCH</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);=
font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px=
">22:50-00:30 Plenary</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6=
667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Thursday, March 26</span><br styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,4=
9,48);font-size:14.6667px">20:00-22:00 PRIVACYPASS</span><br style=3D"color=
:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font=
-size:14.6667px">22:10-00:10 RIPT</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);fo=
nt-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><s=
pan style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Friday, March 27</spa=
n><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">20:00-22:00 SECDISPATCH</span><br styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,4=
9,48);font-size:14.6667px">22:10-00:10 WEBTRANS</span><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size=
:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">The tot=
al meeting block for WG and BOF sessions amounts to:</span><br style=3D"col=
or:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font=
-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Pa=
cific Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 13:00-17:10=C2=A0 (17:30 on W=
eds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Eastern Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 16:00=
-20:10=C2=A0 (20:30 on Weds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-si=
ze:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Coord=
inated Universal Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 20:00-00:10=
=C2=A0 (00:30 on Weds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.=
6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Central Eur=
opean Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 21:00-01:1=
0=C2=A0 (01:30 on Weds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14=
.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">India Stan=
dard Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
 01:30-05:40=C2=A0 (06:00 on Weds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);f=
ont-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"=
>China Standard Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
04:00-08:10=C2=A0 (08:30 on Weds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);fo=
nt-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">=
Australian Eastern Standard Time=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 07:00-=
11:10=C2=A0 (11:30 on Weds)</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-siz=
e:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">We will be using Webex for =
all of these sessions. We will be posting training materials and online res=
ources in an FAQ on the IETF web site next week for those who are unfamilia=
r with Webex.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><=
br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:r=
gb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">This agenda, with links to the Webex sess=
ions, will appear in the datatracker shortly. If you plan to attend any of =
these sessions and you are not already registered for IETF 107, we encourag=
e you to register as a remote participant &lt;</span><a href=3D"https://nam=
06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ietf.org%2Fhow=
%2Fmeetings%2Fregister%2F&amp;amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CBernard.Aboba%40microsof=
t.com%7C19e12a8347eb4f64579a08d7c6b66547%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47=
%7C1%7C0%7C637196359005883721&amp;amp;sdata=3DkQfAgWbmmCw4EekDfNZsflv834VNP=
7co5U7L9RhVaEc%3D&amp;amp;reserved=3D0" style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;bor=
der:0px;font-variant-numeric:inherit;font-variant-east-asian:inherit;font-s=
tretch:inherit;font-size:14.6667px;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:basel=
ine">https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fww=
w.ietf.org%2Fhow%2Fmeetings%2Fregister%2F&amp;amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CBernard.=
Aboba%40microsoft.com%7C19e12a8347eb4f64579a08d7c6b66547%7C72f988bf86f141af=
91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637196359005883721&amp;amp;sdata=3DkQfAgWbmmCw4E=
ekDfNZsflv834VNP7co5U7L9RhVaEc%3D&amp;amp;reserved=3D0</a><span style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">&gt;.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(5=
0,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14=
.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">There will=
 not be any other working group meetings, area meetings, or research group =
meetings scheduled between March 23 and March 27. HotRFC is cancelled. We a=
re not providing virtual replacements for side meetings. The organizers of =
the Hackathon and the Code Sprint are working on virtual support for those =
events and they will communicate separately about those.</span><br style=3D=
"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);=
font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px=
">We are aiming to provide a =E2=80=9Challway=E2=80=9D Webex meeting where =
participants can go to test audio and other Webex features and to find othe=
rs who are attending IETF 107 virtually. The <a href=3D"mailto:hallway@jabb=
er.ietf.org">hallway@jabber.ietf.org</a> jabber room will also continue to =
be available. More information about these will be available on the FAQ pag=
e next week.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><b=
r style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">There are many trade-offs involved in sche=
duling an all-virtual meeting. We will be pleased if the BOFs on the agenda=
 are able to form WGs after this. But if not, the virtual BOF will not coun=
t as one attempt against the usual allotment of two attempts to form a WG, =
given the unusual circumstances.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);fon=
t-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">RFC 8713, which specif=
ies the NomCom process, relies heavily on there being three meetings per ye=
ar known as the first, second, and third meetings, respectively. We conside=
r the virtual IETF 107 to be the first IETF meeting of 2020. We will be sea=
ting the new members of the 2020-2021 IESG, IAB, and IETF LLC Board at the =
virtual plenary. We are considering the implications of the cancelled Vanco=
uver meeting for NomCom volunteer qualification specified in RFC 8713 Secti=
on 4.14 and we will be inviting community discussion about that soon.</span=
><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:r=
gb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-s=
ize:14.6667px">We chose to focus this agenda on the 4.5 hours between 20:00=
 UTC and 00:30 UTC. Because we anticipate having relatively few participant=
s for the scheduled sessions located in the part of the world between Europ=
e and China, this schedule aims to give the most participants an opportunit=
y to experience =E2=80=9Cnight time=E2=80=9D -- albeit abbreviated -- even =
if they wish to participate in the meeting multiple days in a row. We consu=
lted with the chairs of the listed sessions when we were crafting this agen=
da to check if they thought that many of their expected participants would =
be disadvantaged by the slots chosen. They thought these slots were workabl=
e.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D=
"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48=
);font-size:14.6667px">We are preparing for an increased volume of virtual =
interim meetings in April and beyond. We will share more information about =
strategies for avoiding conflicts and ensuring fairness in scheduling of vi=
rtual interims next week. Until then, we would like to ask chairs to refrai=
n from scheduling virtual interims.</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);=
font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">We understand that =
the agenda above is far from ideal. We know that some people reserved a who=
le week for IETF work and that week will now appear empty, and we know that=
 working late into the night, working overnight, or getting up very early w=
ill be unpleasant or infeasible for some. We understand that when people jo=
in meetings from home, other commitments may interfere. We know there are m=
any in our community with novel ideas about how to run virtual meetings, an=
d these should be explored further. With the agenda above, we did the best =
we could given the rapidly changing conditions. We do not expect any of the=
 decisions we made for this meeting to set a precedent for future meetings.=
</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);=
font-size:14.6667px">It was very evident to the IESG in the course of devel=
oping this agenda that we lack consensus-based community recommendations ab=
out how to deal with the inherent difficulties of scheduling virtual meetin=
gs given time zone differences. After IETF 107, we will figure out the best=
 way to work with those interested in the community on this topic, perhaps =
via the manycouches mailing list, GENDISPATCH, a BOF, or other ways.</span>=
<br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rg=
b(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-si=
ze:14.6667px">Feel free to send questions and comments to <a href=3D"mailto=
:iesg@ietf.org">iesg@ietf.org</a>. We may not be able to respond immediatel=
y since we are busier than usual at the moment as we prepare for the virtua=
l meeting and the seating of the new IESG members.</span><br style=3D"color=
:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-s=
ize:14.6667px"><span style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">Rega=
rds,</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px">The IESG</span><br style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(50,49,48);font-size:14.6667px"></div></div>

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Dear Amy Vezza,

The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
Below is the scheduled session information followed by
the original request. 


    webtrans Session 1 (2:00 requested)
    Friday, 27 March 2020, Session II 2210-0010
    Room Name: Virtual Track 1 size: None
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iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/sessions/webtrans.ics

Request Information:


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Working Group Name: WebTransport
Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area
Session Requester: Amy Vezza

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2 Hours
Number of Attendees: 100
Conflicts to Avoid: 

 Technology Overlap: core dnssd httpbis quic taps tls tsvarea avtcore mmusic emu



People who must be present:
  Dr. Bernard D. Aboba Ph.D.
  Barry Leiba
  David Schinazi

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WEBTRANS Session at IETF 107

Friday, March 27
22:10-00:10 UTC

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The WEBTRANS WG will have a virtual meeting on Friday, March 27, 2020 from
15:10 - 17:10 PM Pacific Time.

Since this virtual meeting will be something of an experiment, we'd like to
get volunteers in advance for the following:

1. Jabber Scribe to take questions from the queue for anyone who is unable
to use WebEx for voice.

2. Note takers to capture decisions and action items.

Please email webtrans-chairs@ietf.org to volunteer.

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ch 27, 2020 from 15:10 - 17:10 PM Pacific Time.<div><br></div><div>Since th=
is virtual meeting will be something of an experiment, we&#39;d like to get=
 volunteers in advance for the following:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Jabbe=
r Scribe to take questions from the queue for anyone who is unable to use W=
ebEx for voice.</div><div><br></div><div>2. Note takers to capture decision=
s and action items.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Please email <a href=3D"=
mailto:webtrans-chairs@ietf.org">webtrans-chairs@ietf.org</a> to volunteer.=
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Here is a preliminary agenda for the IETF 107 WEBTRANS WG Meeting.  If
you'd like to propose additional agenda items or modify the time
allocations, please send email to webtrans-chairs@ietf.org.

If you are listed below as presenting, now would be a good time to work on
your slides. The deck is available here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1APFmYij7nyqlmu91R7G61F66pxvWQD5H6UY=
1W-taRjU


IETF 107 WEBTRANS WG Agenda
Friday, March 27, 2020
15:10 - 17:10 Pacific Time


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   15:10 =E2=80=93 15:30 Preliminaries, Chairs (20 minutes)
   -

      Note Well
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      Jabber Scribe
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      Note Takers
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      Agenda Bash
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   15:30 - 15:50 WebTransport Overview and Requirements, Victor Vasiliev
   (20 minutes)
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      https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview
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   15:50 - 16:05 WebTransport using HTTP/2, Eric Kinnear (15 minutes)
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      https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kinnear-webtransport-http2
      -

   16:05 - 16:20 WebTransport over QUIC, Victor Vasiliev (15 minutes)
   -

      https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-quic
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   16:20 - 16:35 WebTransport over HTTP/3, Victor Vasiliev (15 minutes)
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      https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-http3
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   17:00 - 17:10 Wrap up and Summary, Chairs & ADs (10 minutes)

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Here is a preliminary agenda for the IETF 107 WEBTRANS WG =
Meeting.=C2=A0 If you&#39;d like to propose additional agenda items or modi=
fy the time allocations, please send email to <a href=3D"mailto:webtrans-ch=
airs@ietf.org">webtrans-chairs@ietf.org</a>.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>If yo=
u are listed below as presenting, now would be a good time to work on your =
slides. The deck is available here:=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://docs=
.google.com/presentation/d/1APFmYij7nyqlmu91R7G61F66pxvWQD5H6UY1W-taRjU">ht=
tps://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1APFmYij7nyqlmu91R7G61F66pxvWQD5H6UY1W=
-taRjU</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br><div><br></div><div>IETF 107 WEBTRANS WG Agenda</=
div><div>Friday, March 27, 2020</div><div>15:10 - 17:10 Pacific Time</div><=
div><div><br></div><div><span id=3D"gmail-docs-internal-guid-a4ebb44d-7fff-=
b968-3fcd-e8fb7555a4fd"><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><fon=
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color:rgb(51,0,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:norma=
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dding-left:2.7pt"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;ma=
rgin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transpare=
nt;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-alig=
n:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">15:10 =E2=80=93 15:30 Preliminaries, Chair=
s (20 minutes)</span></p></li><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px=
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c:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space=
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e:disc;color:rgb(204,204,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numer=
ic:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-spac=
e:pre;padding-left:0.925pt"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-=
top:2.4pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-col=
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ertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Jabber Scribe</span></p></li><=
li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(204,204,0);backgroun=
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"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:2.4pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:n=
ormal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pr=
e-wrap">Note Takers</span></p></li><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type=
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op:2.4pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-colo=
r:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;ve=
rtical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Agenda Bash</span></p></li></ul=
><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(51,0,102);backgrou=
nd-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:no=
rmal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;padding-left:2.7pt"><p dir=3D"=
ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:3.6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:no=
rmal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre=
-wrap">15:30 - 15:50 WebTransport Overview and Requirements, Victor Vasilie=
v (20 minutes)</span></p></li><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px=
"><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(102,153,153);back=
ground-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asia=
n:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;padding-left:4.475pt"><p d=
ir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:2.8pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview" style=
=3D"text-decoration-line:none"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-c=
olor:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal=
;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wra=
p">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview</span></a></=
p></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(51,0,10=
2);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-ea=
st-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;padding-left:2.7pt"=
><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:3.6pt;margin-bottom:0pt=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant=
-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;whit=
e-space:pre-wrap">15:50 - 16:05 WebTransport using HTTP/2, Eric Kinnear (15=
 minutes)</span></p></li><ul style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li=
 dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(102,153,153);backgroun=
d-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:nor=
mal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;padding-left:3.075pt"><p dir=3D=
"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:3.6pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kinnear-webtransport-http2" style=3D"=
text-decoration-line:none"><span style=3D"color:rgb(126,156,232);background=
-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:norm=
al;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-w=
rap">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kinnear-webtransport-http2</span></a=
></p></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"list-style-type:disc;color:rgb(51,0=
,102);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant=
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pt"><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.2;margin-top:3.6pt;margin-bottom:=
0pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-vari=
ant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;w=
hite-space:pre-wrap">16:05 - 16:20 WebTransport over QUIC, Victor Vasiliev =
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ansparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-d=
ecoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">http=
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The IETF 107 meeting of the WEBTRANS WG is tomorrow, March 27, 2020.

The agenda is posted here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/materials/agenda-107-webtrans-00

In order to have the slides available and posted to the materials
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">The IETF 107 meeting of the WEBTRANS WG i=
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ere:=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/ma=
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The agenda for today's meeting is available by clicking on "Meeting
Materials" for the WEBTRANS WG entry on the agenda page:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda

For reasons I'm not clear about, the uploaded slides are not yet visible
there, although they do show up here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/session/webtrans

In case we don't figure this out in time, you can access the slides here:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1APFmYij7nyqlmu91R7G61F66pxvWQD5H6UY1W-taRjU/


Bernard, for the Chairs

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g on &quot;Meeting Materials&quot; for the WEBTRANS WG entry on the agenda =
page:=C2=A0<div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda"=
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>For reasons I&#39;m not clear about, the uploaded slides are not y=
et visible there, although they do show up here:=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D=
"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/session/webtrans">https://datatra=
cker.ietf.org/meeting/107/session/webtrans</a></div><div><br></div><div>In =
case we don&#39;t figure this out in time, you can access the slides here:=
=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1APFmYij=
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Hi folks,

We have posted the minutes of WEBTRANS @ IETF 107 to the datatracker:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-107-webtrans/

Please verify that your statements were correctly recorded,
and reply to this message if you see any error.

Thanks again to Bron Gondwana and Peter Wu for taking minutes
and to Lucas Pardue for Jabber scribing.

Cheers,
David Schinazi

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Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,

As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,
this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group
adoption call for draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/

The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please send comments,
statements of support, and/or objections to <webtransport@ietf.org>.

I'll note that WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG
consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor's individual draft
is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.

As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our charter:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/
    To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the
    group will initially develop an overview document containing use cases
    and requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.

Thanks,
David and Bernard

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,<div><br></div><div>As discuss=
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port, and/or objections to=C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:webtransport@ietf.org=
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t WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG</div><div>consensus ye=
t, it just means that we think that Victor&#39;s individual draft</div><div=
>is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.</div><div><br></div><div>A=
s a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our charter:</div><div><=
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ker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/</a><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To assist i=
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I support the adoption of this draft.

IMO, of all the documents on the table, this is the tightest scoped and
broadly applicable.

Cheers
Lucad


On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, 01:00 David Schinazi, <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,
>
> As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,
> this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group
> adoption call for draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/
>
> The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please send comments,
> statements of support, and/or objections to <webtransport@ietf.org>.
>
> I'll note that WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG
> consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor's individual draft
> is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.
>
> As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our charter:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/
>     To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the
>     group will initially develop an overview document containing use cases
>     and requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.
>
> Thanks,
> David and Bernard
> --
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>I support the adoption of this draft.=C2=A0<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">IMO, of all the documents on the tabl=
e, this is the tightest scoped and broadly applicable.=C2=A0</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers</div><div dir=3D"auto">Lucad</=
div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Wed, 1 Apr 2020, 01:00 David Schinazi, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dschinazi=
.ietf@gmail.com">dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,<div><br=
></div><div>As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,</div><div>th=
is email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group</div><div>adoption call f=
or=C2=A0draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.</div><div><a href=3D"https://datat=
racker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-ove=
rview/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The adoption call will run until 20=
20-04-14. Please send comments,</div><div>statements of support, and/or obj=
ections to=C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:webtransport@ietf.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">webtransport@ietf.org</a>&gt;.</div><div><br></div><=
div>I&#39;ll note that WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG</=
div><div>consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor&#39;s indiv=
idual draft</div><div>is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our=
 charter:</div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/abo=
ut/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/w=
ebtrans/about/</a><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To assist in the coordinatio=
n with owners of the WebTransport API, the<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 group will init=
ially develop an overview document containing use cases<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 an=
d requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.<br></div><div><=
br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>David and Bernard</div></div>
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Hi, David,

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:00 PM David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,
>
> As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,
> this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group
> adoption call for draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/
>
> The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please send comments,
> statements of support, and/or objections to <webtransport@ietf.org>.
>
> I'll note that WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG
> consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor's individual draft
> is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.
>

I think this document is in good enough shape for the working group to
adopt.


> As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our charter:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/
>     To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the
>     group will initially develop an overview document containing use cases
>     and requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.
>

I do hope the working group focuses a bit on use cases in its work on this
document.

Best,

Spencer


>
> Thanks,
> David and Bernard
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi, David,=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7=
:00 PM David Schinazi &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com">dschi=
nazi.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,<div><br></=
div><div>As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,</div><div>this =
email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group</div><div>adoption call for=
=C2=A0draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.</div><div><a href=3D"https://datatra=
cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/" target=3D"_blank">https=
://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/</a><br></div><=
div><br></div><div>The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please send=
 comments,</div><div>statements of support, and/or objections to=C2=A0&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:webtransport@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">webtransport@ietf=
.org</a>&gt;.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ll note that WG adoption does =
not mean that the document has WG</div><div>consensus yet, it just means th=
at we think that Victor&#39;s individual draft</div><div>is a good basis fo=
r us to start a new WG draft.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I=
 think this document is in good enough shape for the working group to adopt=
.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>As a reminder, an overview document is discussed=
 in our charter:<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/w=
ebtrans/about/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/=
about/</a><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To assist in the coordination with o=
wners of the WebTransport API, the<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 group will initially de=
velop an overview document containing use cases<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and requir=
ements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.<br></div></div></blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>I do hope the working group focuses a bit on use c=
ases in its work on this document.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Spencer</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div><br></div><div>=
Thanks,</div><div>David and Bernard</div></div>
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I support adoption.=20
It=E2=80=99s a good starting point and can be enhanced as necessary.

Thanks,
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,
>=20
> As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,
> this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group
> adoption call for draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/
>=20
> The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please send comments,
> statements of support, and/or objections to <webtransport@ietf.org>.
>=20
> I'll note that WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG
> consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor's individual draft
> is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.
>=20
> As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our charter:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/
>     To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the=

>     group will initially develop an overview document containing use cases=

>     and requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.
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> Thanks,
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chinazi.ietf@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi WebTransport enthusi=
asts,<div><br></div><div>As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,<=
/div><div>this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group</div><div>adop=
tion call for&nbsp;draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.</div><div><a href=3D"htt=
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l draft</div><div>is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our chart=
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; To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the<br>=
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Subject: Re: [Webtransport] Call for adoption: draft-vvv-webtransport-overview
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I also support adoption. 

>> Hi WebTransport enthusiasts,
>> 
>> As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 last week,
>> this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group
>> adoption call for draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/
>> 
>> The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please send comments,
>> statements of support, and/or objections to <webtransport@ietf.org>.
>> 
>> I'll note that WG adoption does not mean that the document has WG
>> consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor's individual draft
>> is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.
>> 
>> As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in our charter:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/
>>     To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport API, the
>>     group will initially develop an overview document containing use cases
>>     and requirements in order to clarify the goals of the effort.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> David and Bernard
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">I also support adoption.&n=
bsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi WebTransp=
ort enthusiasts,<div><br></div><div>As discussed in our meeting at IETF 107 l=
ast week,</div><div>this email starts a two-week WEBTRANS Working Group</div=
><div>adoption call for&nbsp;draft-vvv-webtransport-overview.</div><div><a h=
ref=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/">ht=
tps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vvv-webtransport-overview/</a><br></div=
><div><br></div><div>The adoption call will run until 2020-04-14. Please sen=
d comments,</div><div>statements of support, and/or objections to&nbsp;&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:webtransport@ietf.org">webtransport@ietf.org</a>&gt;.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I'll note that WG adoption does not mean that the docume=
nt has WG</div><div>consensus yet, it just means that we think that Victor's=
 individual draft</div><div>is a good basis for us to start a new WG draft.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>As a reminder, an overview document is discussed in=
 our charter:</div><div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/=
about/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/webtrans/about/</a><br></div><div>&n=
bsp; &nbsp; To assist in the coordination with owners of the WebTransport AP=
I, the<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; group will initially develop an overview document co=
ntaining use cases<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; and requirements in order to clarify the=
 goals of the effort.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>David a=
nd Bernard</div></div>
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port@ietf.org</span><br><span>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webtrans=
port</span><br></div></blockquote><span>-- </span><br><span>Webtransport mai=
ling list</span><br><span>Webtransport@ietf.org</span><br><span>https://www.=
ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webtransport</span><br></div></blockquote></body><=
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