From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Nov 2 21:40:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B49A11E8080 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:40:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tf5gpu4PDn8q for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7364C11E8111 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [63.145.238.4]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98D6941FE4 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4EB21B3B.7080708@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:40:27 -0700 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: weirds@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [weirds] FYI: workshop on domain names and persistence X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:40:33 -0000 I learned today of a call for participation in a workshop on domain names and persistence to be held in Bristol, UK on December 8: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/idcc_workshop.html It's possible that some folks on this list might be interested. Feel free to forward as appropriate. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Thu Nov 10 07:15:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB64A21F8B32 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:15:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2z-oM582ggX3 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5B321F8B21 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (69-196-144-227.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.144.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 203B11ECB41F for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:15:24 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: weirds@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111110151523.GE340@shinkuro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [weirds] Agenda that won't upload X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:15:30 -0000 --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, I attempted to update the agenda to have the drafts actually on the agenda, but the materials manager keeps spitting up on the file. No idea why. Anyway, here's what I tried to upload. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@crankycanuck.ca --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="bof-agenda-ietf8020111110a.txt" Agenda for WEIRDS BoF, IETF 82 2011-11-10 0. Agenda bashing. 1. A very quick review of the background. 2. A pointer to the drafts about actual deployments, but not discussion of the drafts. 3. A very quick overview of the then-extant requirements draft. (draft-kucherawy-weirds-requirements-01) The above items should take no more than 30 minutes. The remaining time is nearly 2 hours; if we don't exhaust discussion in that time, it is a testament to wills. 4. Questions for discussion (at least 30 mins): a. Is this a problem to be solved? b. Is the problem statement in the proposed charter clear enough? c. Why isn't this IRISbis? RELEVANT DRAFTS: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kucherawy-weirds-requirements-01 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-weirds-arin-whoisrws-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheng-weirds-icann-rws-dnrd-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fiorelli-weirds-rws-00 RELEVANT OTHER READING: http://usenix.org/publications/login/2011-10/openpdfs/Newton.pdf --1UWUbFP1cBYEclgG-- From dave.piscitello@icann.org Fri Nov 11 12:25:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175A921F8B55 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:25:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PDbG6QojP49o for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org (expfe100-1.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5130A21F8B54 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.236]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:25:16 -0800 From: Dave Piscitello To: "weirds@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:25:14 -0800 Thread-Topic: RESTful presentation to APWG Thread-Index: AcygsAWRv6hklORhREKDPI7XJQbkYw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:25:17 -0000 All hello, I want to report that my presentation to the Antiphishing Working Group on = the RESTful work (largely based on the USENIX ;login article) was very posi= tively received, as in several people asked about the timeframe when they c= an expect to begin to use it. The general feeling expressed was that struct= ured data is welcomed, and data tagged indicating language/character set is= an attractive way forward. I had some hallway discussions about ways to share some development effort = to do implement/demonstrate some additional features beyond the initial pro= totyping and deployment. =20 I've sent APWG members the WEIRDS mailing list information (info page, arch= ives). Hopefully we will see some new participation. = From aservin@lacnic.net Sat Nov 12 00:49:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5AD21F84CE for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:49:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.985 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.985 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fah1eyQYB4cD for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D9B21F84CC for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.59.2.199] (unknown [210.229.158.128]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEC130841C; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 06:49:09 -0200 (UYST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Arturo Servin In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:49:04 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9BEAE22A-5189-4E37-B1B6-3A8DBF027C70@lacnic.net> References: To: Dave Piscitello X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:49:21 -0000 Hi, We have a prototype working but it is in a development = environment behind our intranet. I will try to have it ready for public access before the BoF in = Taipei. Regards, /as On 12 Nov 2011, at 05:25, Dave Piscitello wrote: > All hello, >=20 > I want to report that my presentation to the Antiphishing Working = Group on the RESTful work (largely based on the USENIX ;login article) = was very positively received, as in several people asked about the = timeframe when they can expect to begin to use it. The general feeling = expressed was that structured data is welcomed, and data tagged = indicating language/character set is an attractive way forward. >=20 > I had some hallway discussions about ways to share some development = effort to do implement/demonstrate some additional features beyond the = initial prototyping and deployment. =20 >=20 > I've sent APWG members the WEIRDS mailing list information (info page, = archives). Hopefully we will see some new participation.=20 > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From andy@hxr.us Sat Nov 12 02:31:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F183921F8713 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QVOJorO5TkBI for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1E321F86AA for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by ggnr4 with SMTP id r4so4043759ggn.31 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.136.38 with SMTP id v26mr2359060yhi.69.1321093896927; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.5] (ip72-196-196-5.dc.dc.cox.net. [72.196.196.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 40sm41960815anu.17.2011.11.12.02.31.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:35 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Andy Newton In-Reply-To: <9BEAE22A-5189-4E37-B1B6-3A8DBF027C70@lacnic.net> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:31:33 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0253B56A-C3C3-4724-BE9F-D0ECDBB98891@hxr.us> References: <9BEAE22A-5189-4E37-B1B6-3A8DBF027C70@lacnic.net> To: Arturo Servin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 10:31:38 -0000 Arturo, Most excellent news. Is there a draft describing the data format, for = the curious? -andy On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: > Hi, >=20 > We have a prototype working but it is in a development = environment behind our intranet. >=20 > I will try to have it ready for public access before the BoF in = Taipei. >=20 > Regards, > /as >=20 > On 12 Nov 2011, at 05:25, Dave Piscitello wrote: >=20 >> All hello, >>=20 >> I want to report that my presentation to the Antiphishing Working = Group on the RESTful work (largely based on the USENIX ;login article) = was very positively received, as in several people asked about the = timeframe when they can expect to begin to use it. The general feeling = expressed was that structured data is welcomed, and data tagged = indicating language/character set is an attractive way forward. >>=20 >> I had some hallway discussions about ways to share some development = effort to do implement/demonstrate some additional features beyond the = initial prototyping and deployment. =20 >>=20 >> I've sent APWG members the WEIRDS mailing list information (info = page, archives). Hopefully we will see some new participation.=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> weirds mailing list >> weirds@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >=20 > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From aservin@lacnic.net Sat Nov 12 07:28:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F93321F8753 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.498 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yorcSonAE5WA for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0A921F86DD for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.96] (61-222-134-211.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.222.134.211]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8E030841C; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:27:59 -0200 (UYST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Arturo Servin In-Reply-To: <0253B56A-C3C3-4724-BE9F-D0ECDBB98891@hxr.us> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:27:49 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <787F27FE-A203-4DE3-B934-9CA029F223F9@lacnic.net> References: <9BEAE22A-5189-4E37-B1B6-3A8DBF027C70@lacnic.net> <0253B56A-C3C3-4724-BE9F-D0ECDBB98891@hxr.us> To: Andy Newton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:28:17 -0000 Not yet. The first step is just to mimic the output of the whois, so it = is kinda plain text. We have some ideas that I would like to discuss = during the week. Regards, .as On 12 Nov 2011, at 18:31, Andy Newton wrote: > Arturo, >=20 > Most excellent news. Is there a draft describing the data format, for = the curious? >=20 > -andy >=20 > On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> We have a prototype working but it is in a development = environment behind our intranet. >>=20 >> I will try to have it ready for public access before the BoF in = Taipei. >>=20 >> Regards, >> /as >>=20 >> On 12 Nov 2011, at 05:25, Dave Piscitello wrote: >>=20 >>> All hello, >>>=20 >>> I want to report that my presentation to the Antiphishing Working = Group on the RESTful work (largely based on the USENIX ;login article) = was very positively received, as in several people asked about the = timeframe when they can expect to begin to use it. The general feeling = expressed was that structured data is welcomed, and data tagged = indicating language/character set is an attractive way forward. >>>=20 >>> I had some hallway discussions about ways to share some development = effort to do implement/demonstrate some additional features beyond the = initial prototyping and deployment. =20 >>>=20 >>> I've sent APWG members the WEIRDS mailing list information (info = page, archives). Hopefully we will see some new participation.=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> weirds mailing list >>> weirds@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> weirds mailing list >> weirds@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From dave.piscitello@icann.org Sat Nov 12 08:01:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1772A21F8540 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:01:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tVj2l9yCJIOV for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org (expfe100-1.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E180E21F891D for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.236]) with mapi; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:01:07 -0800 From: Dave Piscitello To: Arturo Servin Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:01:05 -0800 Thread-Topic: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG Thread-Index: AcyhVEmbC5H/mVVDQcelN0Wf7QIS2g== Message-ID: <64759259-1617-4DEF-BE22-DC551E5AB1BB@icann.org> References: <9BEAE22A-5189-4E37-B1B6-3A8DBF027C70@lacnic.net> <0253B56A-C3C3-4724-BE9F-D0ECDBB98891@hxr.us> <787F27FE-A203-4DE3-B934-9CA029F223F9@lacnic.net> In-Reply-To: <787F27FE-A203-4DE3-B934-9CA029F223F9@lacnic.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:01:24 -0000 Yes, great news that you are experimenting.=20 Steve Sheng, Francisco Arias and I are working with some folks on ICANN's S= SAC to pull together an initial set of data objects from ICANN's registrar = accreditation agreement (RAA), EPP, and ICANN's registrar escrow XML (curre= ntly http://www.icann.org/en/escrow/registrar-escrow-08nov01.htm#xmlformat)= .=20 Optimistically, we could have a data model and xml schema in a month or so.= Of course, it would be a straw man and subject to consideration by a broad= er ICANN community. Adoption of the schema is a policy matter for gTLDs an= d ccTLDs would decide amongst themselves or individually to adopt it. Clear= ly the optimal situation is for all TLDs and registrars to employ a common = schema. On Nov 12, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: >=20 > Not yet. >=20 > The first step is just to mimic the output of the whois, so it is kinda = plain text. We have some ideas that I would like to discuss during the week= . >=20 > Regards, > .as >=20 > On 12 Nov 2011, at 18:31, Andy Newton wrote: >=20 >> Arturo, >>=20 >> Most excellent news. Is there a draft describing the data format, for th= e curious? >>=20 >> -andy >>=20 >> On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> We have a prototype working but it is in a development environment beh= ind our intranet. >>>=20 >>> I will try to have it ready for public access before the BoF in Taipei= . >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> /as >>>=20 >>> On 12 Nov 2011, at 05:25, Dave Piscitello wrote: >>>=20 >>>> All hello, >>>>=20 >>>> I want to report that my presentation to the Antiphishing Working Grou= p on the RESTful work (largely based on the USENIX ;login article) was very= positively received, as in several people asked about the timeframe when t= hey can expect to begin to use it. The general feeling expressed was that s= tructured data is welcomed, and data tagged indicating language/character s= et is an attractive way forward. >>>>=20 >>>> I had some hallway discussions about ways to share some development ef= fort to do implement/demonstrate some additional features beyond the initia= l prototyping and deployment. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> I've sent APWG members the WEIRDS mailing list information (info page,= archives). Hopefully we will see some new participation.=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> weirds mailing list >>>> weirds@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> weirds mailing list >>> weirds@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >=20 From aservin@lacnic.net Sat Nov 12 17:46:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF6C21F8467 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:46:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.101 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.101 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP=1.398, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l4aRnyLRVFEt for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B2311E808D for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-14a4.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-14a4.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.20.164]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0F2308424; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:46:34 -0200 (UYST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Arturo Servin In-Reply-To: <64759259-1617-4DEF-BE22-DC551E5AB1BB@icann.org> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:46:26 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9158B20B-08B5-458B-A430-088ECB156AB0@lacnic.net> References: <9BEAE22A-5189-4E37-B1B6-3A8DBF027C70@lacnic.net> <0253B56A-C3C3-4724-BE9F-D0ECDBB98891@hxr.us> <787F27FE-A203-4DE3-B934-9CA029F223F9@lacnic.net> <64759259-1617-4DEF-BE22-DC551E5AB1BB@icann.org> To: Dave Piscitello X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] RESTful presentation to APWG X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:46:43 -0000 Dave, Thank you for the link, very interesting. I can see some = intersections (and differences) between the domain and the number world = of whois. For the organization, are you considering a subset of vcard = (RFC6350)? I think this is also a question for others considering using = whois rest services as producers and consumers of information. Regards, .as =09 On 13 Nov 2011, at 00:01, Dave Piscitello wrote: > Yes, great news that you are experimenting.=20 >=20 > Steve Sheng, Francisco Arias and I are working with some folks on = ICANN's SSAC to pull together an initial set of data objects from = ICANN's registrar accreditation agreement (RAA), EPP, and ICANN's = registrar escrow XML (currently = http://www.icann.org/en/escrow/registrar-escrow-08nov01.htm#xmlformat).=20= >=20 > Optimistically, we could have a data model and xml schema in a month = or so. Of course, it would be a straw man and subject to consideration = by a broader ICANN community. Adoption of the schema is a policy matter = for gTLDs and ccTLDs would decide amongst themselves or individually to = adopt it. Clearly the optimal situation is for all TLDs and registrars = to employ a common schema. >=20 > On Nov 12, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Not yet. >>=20 >> The first step is just to mimic the output of the whois, so it = is kinda plain text. We have some ideas that I would like to discuss = during the week. >>=20 >> Regards, >> .as >>=20 >> On 12 Nov 2011, at 18:31, Andy Newton wrote: >>=20 >>> Arturo, >>>=20 >>> Most excellent news. Is there a draft describing the data format, = for the curious? >>>=20 >>> -andy >>>=20 >>> On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi, >>>>=20 >>>> We have a prototype working but it is in a development = environment behind our intranet. >>>>=20 >>>> I will try to have it ready for public access before the BoF in = Taipei. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>> /as >>>>=20 >>>> On 12 Nov 2011, at 05:25, Dave Piscitello wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> All hello, >>>>>=20 >>>>> I want to report that my presentation to the Antiphishing Working = Group on the RESTful work (largely based on the USENIX ;login article) = was very positively received, as in several people asked about the = timeframe when they can expect to begin to use it. The general feeling = expressed was that structured data is welcomed, and data tagged = indicating language/character set is an attractive way forward. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I had some hallway discussions about ways to share some = development effort to do implement/demonstrate some additional features = beyond the initial prototyping and deployment. =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I've sent APWG members the WEIRDS mailing list information (info = page, archives). Hopefully we will see some new participation.=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> weirds mailing list >>>>> weirds@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> weirds mailing list >>>> weirds@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >>=20 From steve.sheng@icann.org Sun Nov 13 00:29:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3825221F8B39 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:29:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sA-pv4n1Q2cl for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org (expfe100-2.exc.icann.org [64.78.22.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB0021F8B38 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXVPMBX100-1.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.232]) by EXPFE100-2.exc.icann.org ([64.78.22.237]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:29:34 -0800 From: Steve Sheng To: SM , Jay Daley Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:29:33 -0800 Thread-Topic: [weirds] SSAC Report on WHOIS Terminology and Structure Thread-Index: AcySYCmp7uN/0Ji5R76FfMwMHfzEewPfjIHS Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20111024072154.0a9c30a8@resistor.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-Entourage/13.9.0.110114 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] SSAC Report on WHOIS Terminology and Structure X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:29:36 -0000 Hello SM and all,=20 FYI, regarding SAC 051, please find below the recent ICANN board resolution= : http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-28oct11-en.htm#5 ...=20 Resolved (2011.10.28.26), the Board hereby acknowledges the receipt of SAC 051, and thanks SSAC and other contributors for their efforts in the creation of the report. Resolved (2011.10.28.27), the Board directs staff to produce, in consultation with the community, a roadmap for the coordination of the technical and policy discussions necessary to implement the recommendations outlined in SAC 051. Resolved (2011.10.28.28), the Board directs staff to forward SAC 051 to ICANN's Advisory Committees and Supporting Organizations for their advice, if any, with regards to implementing the SSAC recommendations, and to forward SAC 051 to the Whois Review Team. We have not started implementing the Board resolutions yet, but if you have any thoughts / suggestions, feel free to email/talk to me and Francisco. Kind regards,=20 --=20 Steve Sheng Senior Technical Analyst Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers On 10/24/11 7:44 AM, "SM" wrote: > Hi Jay, > At 06:53 24-10-2011, Jay Daley wrote: >> For those of you that have not seen this, the SSAC published a report on >> WHOIS >=20 > Thanks. >=20 >> Terminology and Structure back in September. One of a long series >> trying to get something done about WHOIS (sorry, "Domain Name >> Directory Registration Data - Access Protocol" and "Domain Name >> Registration Data - Directory Service" ! ) >=20 > The first recommendation is about terminology. It's up to Domain > Name Registration Vendors to adopt that. >=20 > The second recommendation is for the ICANN Community to evaluate and > adopt an access protocol that supports internationalization. >=20 > The third recommendation is for the ICANN Community to develop a > framework for accessing the data with support for authentication and > authorization. >=20 > Is there a mailing list to follow the discussions of the ICANN > Community about the framework? >=20 > Regards, > -sm=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Mon Nov 14 18:52:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDB21F0D3D for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:52:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tMjWCPXp5Iei for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC90B1F0C90 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (dhcp-678b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.103.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99DE81ECB41C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:52:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:52:41 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: weirds@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111115025240.GD20914@shinkuro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [weirds] Updated agenda & other info for the BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:52:54 -0000 Dear colleagues, I uploaded a new agenda to the meeting materials (and included it below). I have been in touch with the Meetecho people, and we will apparently have at least some support from them for remote participants. It won't be two-way voice, though, so you'll need a jabber client at least. BoFs really need complete minutes. Does anyone want to volunteer in advance to help by taking the minutes? Best, A Agenda for WEIRDS BoF, IETF 82 2011-11-15 0. Agenda bashing. 1. Some review of the background 2. Short presentations on what people actually built 3. Short overview of requirements draft and issues in proposed charter The above items should take no more than 30 minutes. The remaining time is nearly 2 hours; if we don't exhaust discussion in that time, it is a testament to wills. 4. Questions for discussion (at least 30 mins): a. Is this a problem to be solved? b. Is the problem statement in the proposed charter clear enough? c. Should this build more on IRIS? Why or why not? d. Is there reasonable prospect for deployment? e. Is one protocol for “registry data” the right approach? RELEVANT DRAFTS: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kucherawy-weirds-requirements-01 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-weirds-arin-whoisrws-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheng-weirds-icann-rws-dnrd-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fiorelli-weirds-rws-00 RELEVANT OTHER READING: http://usenix.org/publications/login/2011-10/openpdfs/Newton.pdf PROPOSED CHARTER http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/weirds/current/msg00231.html -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Mon Nov 14 19:44:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5671F0C5C for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:44:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZOynb9KF0PAv for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA681F0C45 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (dhcp-678b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.103.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E81871ECB420 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:44:33 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: weirds@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111115034432.GI20914@shinkuro.com> References: <20111115025240.GD20914@shinkuro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20111115025240.GD20914@shinkuro.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [weirds] Updated agenda & other info for the BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:44:40 -0000 Dear colleagues, On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 09:52:41PM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > Agenda for WEIRDS BoF, IETF 82 > 2011-11-15 Sorry for any confusion that caused: the date there is actually just a version of the agenda. Here's a disambiguation: Agenda for WEIRDS BoF, IETF 82 agenda version 2011-11-15b meeting 2011-11-16 09:00, Taipei, Taiwan 0. Agenda bashing. 1. Some review of the background 2. Short presentations on what people actually built 3. Short overview of requirements draft and issues in proposed charter The above items should take no more than 30 minutes. The remaining time is nearly 2 hours; if we don't exhaust discussion in that time, it is a testament to wills. 4. Questions for discussion (at least 30 mins): a. Is this a problem to be solved? b. Is the problem statement in the proposed charter clear enough? c. Should this build more on IRIS? Why or why not? d. Is there reasonable prospect for deployment? e. Is one protocol for “registry data” the right approach? f. Volunteers? Who will sign up to chair a WG/edit drafts/review drafts/implement? RELEVANT DRAFTS: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kucherawy-weirds-requirements-01 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-weirds-arin-whoisrws-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheng-weirds-icann-rws-dnrd-00 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fiorelli-weirds-rws-00 RELEVANT OTHER READING: http://usenix.org/publications/login/2011-10/openpdfs/Newton.pdf PROPOSED CHARTER http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/weirds/current/msg00231.html -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Mon Nov 14 21:11:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72F41F0DB0 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:11:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AnpnO7cl66uE for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4201F0D9B for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (dhcp-678b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.103.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02F561ECB41C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:10:51 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:11:01 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: weirds@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111115051100.GB22046@shinkuro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [weirds] Remote participation in BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:11:08 -0000 Hi all, As I mentioned before, we will have some support from Meetecho for remote participants in tomorrow's BoF session. The Meetecho support people (who've been very accommodating) told me they'll be sending something to the mailing list with detailed instructions. The IETF meeting remote participation page at http://www.ietf.org/meeting/82/remote-participation.html gives some other information about remote participation. I'd also like to remind people that there is a current work project open to develop a specification for a Remote Participation Service. Paul Hoffman has the contract to do this development. The announcement is found at https://www.ietf.org/ibin/c5i?mid=6&rid=49&gid=0&k1=933&k2=60385&tid=1321333032. I imagine that Paul would find feedback about your experiences if you want to share them. I haven't seen a post from him on the general IETF discussion list about where to send him feedback, so please watch for that. Best regards, Andrew -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Tue Nov 15 03:38:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6186E1F0C4C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:38:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yYnpEPXRVdFM for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60B91F0C6C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (dhcp-464e.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.70.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B10C1ECB41C for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:38:15 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: weirds@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111115113814.GB23966@shinkuro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: [weirds] Materials for BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:38:20 -0000 Hi, In case anyone needs the materials for tomorrow for the BoF, here they are: Agenda &c: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-0.pdf Andy Newton: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-1.pdf Kaveh Ranjbar: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-2.pdf Steve Sheng: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-3.pdf Best, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From ietf@meetecho.com Tue Nov 15 06:36:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D60F21F8DCC for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:36:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jlGz959ryU+5 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpw1.aruba.it (smtpipvs3.aruba.it [62.149.128.188]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E25BC21F8DC1 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14760 invoked by uid 89); 15 Nov 2011 14:36:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO aruba.it) (62.149.158.90) by smtpw1.ad.aruba.it with SMTP; 15 Nov 2011 14:36:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:36:08 +0100 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Meetecho IETF support" To: weirds@ietf.org X-XaM3-API-Version: V3(R2) X-SenderIP: 143.225.229.143 X-Spam-Rating: smtpw1.ad.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [weirds] Meetecho support for WEIRDS BOF meeting session X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:36:16 -0000 Hi all,=0A=0Aa virtual room has been reserved on the Meetecho system for = tomorrow's WEIRDS BOF meeting session.=0A=0AAccess to the on-line session= (including audio and video streams) will be available from 9:00am at:=0A= http://www.meetecho.com/ietf82/weirds=0A=0AThe Meetecho session automatic= ally logs you into the standard IETF jabber room. So, from there, you can= have an integrated experience involving all media and allowing you to in= teract with the room.=0A=0AA tutorial of interactivity features of the to= ol can be found at:=0Ahttp://www.meetecho.com/ietf82/tutorials=0A=0AFor f= urther information you can contact us at ietf-support@meetecho.com.=0A=0A= Cheers,=0Athe Meetecho team=0A=C2=A0=0A--=C2=A0=0AMeetecho s.r.l.=0AWeb C= onferencing and Collaboration Tools=0Awww.meetecho.com=0A=C2=A0 From carlosm3011@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 12:59:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1844A11E80BD for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:59:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yX3FG0UyD2s6 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0EC11E80BA for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by faap16 with SMTP id p16so1044782faa.31 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:59:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IZQjukRDVgrczcYy0ofVVQ78tdKWmD4RTJoqa4KTb8o=; b=hhDff0fGHjYb6h3E9k1SPvqQPLWUN7WZ+2qe2lR42+DX64xKpRfnpSqLvbuAOEFUAG 2CfrOiycDcPGdRwF2+rgkWy59poJFLuDnR7cEDQ+z0bs/Dp30nDDKS+nIzEmWXOvSWpS 5E6667lCEfikuQZ3F2Gcvee7ZFgBhcXrvcDLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.105.83 with SMTP id gk19mr18489254lab.30.1321390790055; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.10.197 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:59:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111115113814.GB23966@shinkuro.com> References: <20111115113814.GB23966@shinkuro.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:50 -0200 Message-ID: From: Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo To: weirds@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [weirds] Materials for BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: carlos@lacnic.net List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:59:59 -0000 Hello all, we (LACNIC) have put online a proof-of-concept RESTful WHOIS for you to play with. It's really rough around the edges but we wanted to put it online ahead of your BoF in Taipei. We have also drafted a quick I-D-esque document which you can use to access the system: http://www.labs.lacnic.net/drupal/sites/default/files/draft-lacnic-weirds-restwhois-01.pdf Looking forward to your comments, Carlos On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hi, > > In case anyone needs the materials for tomorrow for the BoF, here they > are: > > Agenda &c: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-0.pdf > Andy Newton: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-1.pdf > Kaveh Ranjbar: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-2.pdf > Steve Sheng: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-3.pdf > > Best, > > A > > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > -- -- ========================= Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo http://cagnazzo.name ========================= From aservin@lacnic.net Tue Nov 15 17:00:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D3D11E80B2 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:00:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.097 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G6KL28U7cia1 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECCC11E80DA for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::16:b080:64fa:84ec:a88b] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:b080:64fa:84ec:a88b]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591B0308462; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:00:09 -0200 (UYST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B5E96C26-91FC-4D5D-AC3D-82D7DAD62654" From: Arturo Servin In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:00:08 +0800 Message-Id: <883C1AFB-A5FF-4810-99A0-4D1DBE7EA705@lacnic.net> References: <20111115113814.GB23966@shinkuro.com> To: carlos@lacnic.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: Re: [weirds] Materials for BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:00:27 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B5E96C26-91FC-4D5D-AC3D-82D7DAD62654 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We discovered some typos, you can try: http://restwhois.labs.lacnic.net/restfulwhois/ip/2001:13c7:7001::5 http://restwhois.labs.lacnic.net/restfulwhois/operator/UY-LACN-LACNIC/ The xml structure is mirroring the whois, but that was just for = a quick start. Regards, /as On 16 Nov 2011, at 04:59, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > we (LACNIC) have put online a proof-of-concept RESTful WHOIS for you > to play with. It's really rough around the edges but we wanted to put > it online ahead of your BoF in Taipei. >=20 > We have also drafted a quick I-D-esque document which you can use to > access the system: >=20 > = http://www.labs.lacnic.net/drupal/sites/default/files/draft-lacnic-weirds-= restwhois-01.pdf >=20 > Looking forward to your comments, >=20 > Carlos >=20 > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Andrew Sullivan = wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> In case anyone needs the materials for tomorrow for the BoF, here = they >> are: >>=20 >> Agenda &c: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-0.pdf >> Andy Newton: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-1.pdf >> Kaveh Ranjbar: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-2.pdf >> Steve Sheng: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-3.pdf >>=20 >> Best, >>=20 >> A >>=20 >> -- >> Andrew Sullivan >> ajs@anvilwalrusden.com >> _______________________________________________ >> weirds mailing list >> weirds@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo > http://cagnazzo.name > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds --Apple-Mail=_B5E96C26-91FC-4D5D-AC3D-82D7DAD62654 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii We discovered some typos, you can = try:

http://restwhois.labs.lacnic.net/restfulwhois/ip/2001:13c7:7001::5

The xml structure is mirroring = the whois, but that was just for a quick = start.

Regards,
/as

= On 16 Nov 2011, at 04:59, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:

Hello = all,

we (LACNIC) have put online a proof-of-concept RESTful WHOIS = for you
to play with. It's really rough around the edges but we = wanted to put
it online ahead of your BoF in Taipei.

We have = also drafted a quick I-D-esque document which you can use to
access = the system:

http://www.labs.lacnic.net/drupal/sites/default/= files/draft-lacnic-weirds-restwhois-01.pdf

Looking forward to = your comments,

Carlos

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:38 AM, = Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
Hi,

In case anyone = needs the materials for tomorrow for the BoF, here = they
are:

Agenda &c: = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-0.pdf
Andy Newton: = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-1.pdf
Kaveh Ranjbar: = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-2.pdf
Steve Sheng: = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-3.pdf

Best,

A

--
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ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds




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Carlos M. = Martinez-Cagnazzo
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= --Apple-Mail=_B5E96C26-91FC-4D5D-AC3D-82D7DAD62654-- From Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Tue Nov 15 17:34:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E093C11E8143 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:34:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.894, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id do2nUvYnDaDv for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.knowthenet.org.uk (mx1.knowthenet.org.uk [213.248.199.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFE211E8136 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:34:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: s=main.dk.nominet.selector; d=nominet.org.uk; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-AV:Received:Received:From:To:Subject: Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:Date:Message-ID:Accept-Language: Content-Language:X-MS-Has-Attach:X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type:Content-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding: MIME-Version; b=E1FqeveCLa9txfpdGsirrFdgLHGVBnLdH6SUU6WTGDBLZhFOCNiFZjxc s0z/6fqJRDMuBTcDskRCbmMfZWPEASsik7w/IigZeJIAHKop8slTVYYLI 5pcF0SDfzGukikR; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nominet.org.uk; i=Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk; q=dns/txt; s=main.dkim.nominet.selector; t=1321407259; x=1352943259; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ray=20Bellis=20 |Subject:=20Error=20handling=20in=20draft-newton-et-al-we irds-rir-query=20?|Date:=20Wed,=2016=20Nov=202011=2001:34 :09=20+0000|Message-ID:=20<6E2B4A8B-75EA-43D4-91D8-2CF49F BB3BA9@nominet.org.uk>|To:=20"weirds@ietf.org"=20|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Transfer-Encoding: =20quoted-printable|Content-ID:=20<75329a40-d79c-4562-912 5-a265a1d68ba3>; bh=EAi9JI6LVA4Blb9lBb04riaBGdGT21OapxtsnBNGD8I=; b=jnlu84zVJOcdnO3sLURrE6t6F2sCgtWPmpHG23HvlwmYrHQ59RgRbfcB FYUv15RyUal+a6dBpjQPIP4Gk16YbrL8fp9xQXBNP/sacStjBz+veE89/ G84X+F5jrOxYEMB; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,518,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="36625474" Received: from wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([213.248.197.145]) by mx3.nominet.org.uk with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 01:34:10 +0000 Received: from WDS-EXC1.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::1593:1394:a91f:8f5f]) by wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::7577:eaca:5241:25d4%19]) with mapi; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:34:10 +0000 From: Ray Bellis To: "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Error handling in draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query ? Thread-Index: AQHMo//WTMjToDFNQUWofe0lQIQ+Rw== Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:34:09 +0000 Message-ID: <6E2B4A8B-75EA-43D4-91D8-2CF49FBB3BA9@nominet.org.uk> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <75329a40-d79c-4562-9125-a265a1d68ba3> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [weirds] Error handling in draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query ? X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:34:24 -0000 Just wondering, as I don't see it in the doc, and am not familiar with the = preferred semantics in "RESTlike" applications - What's the expected response in case of errors? For example, if the query is for a non-existent entity, would the server: a) return a "200 OK" with some form of error returned in the response body in the appropriate data format, i.e.: {"error": "no such domain"} =20 or, b) return a "404 Not Found" error with an unspecified response body Ray From bje@apnic.net Tue Nov 15 17:48:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C6211E816A for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a6WVInLys8lK for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp.apnic.net (asmtp.apnic.net [IPv6:2001:dc0:2001:11::199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFD911E813E for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dc0:a000:4:ddb2:7ba1:272d:c719] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dc0:a000:4:ddb2:7ba1:272d:c719]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by asmtp.apnic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21C9B6762; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:48:20 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_49849E04-610E-45A1-865D-E709EDA5B8E7"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Byron Ellacott In-Reply-To: <6E2B4A8B-75EA-43D4-91D8-2CF49FBB3BA9@nominet.org.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:48:19 +1000 Message-Id: <9160A6B2-E250-4D62-AE62-3E77F64FA4E9@apnic.net> References: <6E2B4A8B-75EA-43D4-91D8-2CF49FBB3BA9@nominet.org.uk> To: Ray Bellis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] Error handling in draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query ? X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:48:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_49849E04-610E-45A1-865D-E709EDA5B8E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 16/11/2011, at 11:34 AM, Ray Bellis wrote: > Just wondering, as I don't see it in the doc, and am not familiar with = the preferred semantics in "RESTlike" applications - >=20 > What's the expected response in case of errors? >=20 > For example, if the query is for a non-existent entity, would the = server: >=20 > a) return a "200 OK" with some form of error returned in > the response body in the appropriate data format, i.e.: >=20 > {"error": "no such domain"} >=20 > or, >=20 > b) return a "404 Not Found" error with an unspecified response body My preference is: c) Return a 404 error with detail in the response body. Or whatever the appropriate 4xx error is for the mistake made by the = client. 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bh=Pa9NMOnpVKorJhqorvIUGyj4tNUUqjoGgZ5SRKcV3uw=; b=w/FwjDWpNN1LGZz8GVEyi6dy+G3dmYxekbr+R7MRMiULAczT0UWzJWBi yURwagU3EA8h+KbCJDSCgU1d3qoNDxNEi4hHLejXKhvqbQpDwws7mIjVB 3V+Focb8IawE2y+; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,518,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="36625989" Received: from wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([213.248.197.145]) by mx3.nominet.org.uk with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 02:05:34 +0000 Received: from WDS-EXC1.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::1593:1394:a91f:8f5f]) by wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::7577:eaca:5241:25d4%19]) with mapi; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:05:33 +0000 From: Ray Bellis To: Byron Ellacott Thread-Topic: [weirds] Error handling in draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query ? Thread-Index: AQHMpAHWr6FRBtqjcEGUuXZEVH55bpWuwG8A Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:05:34 +0000 Message-ID: <2C35F8F0-BF27-4D5F-97F2-727DB0064309@nominet.org.uk> References: <6E2B4A8B-75EA-43D4-91D8-2CF49FBB3BA9@nominet.org.uk> <9160A6B2-E250-4D62-AE62-3E77F64FA4E9@apnic.net> In-Reply-To: <9160A6B2-E250-4D62-AE62-3E77F64FA4E9@apnic.net> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <95935aaa-c86b-4df0-88f6-02def2202b07> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] Error handling in draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query ? X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:05:45 -0000 On 16 Nov 2011, at 09:48, Byron Ellacott wrote: >=20 > My preference is: >=20 > c) Return a 404 error with detail in the response body. Which kind of implies having the schema(s) include definitions for status m= essages. Hmm... Ray From bje@apnic.net Tue Nov 15 18:28:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBE711E81BD for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:28:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74CKZOvzjJ4U for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp.apnic.net (asmtp.apnic.net [IPv6:2001:dc0:2001:11::199]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6D911E81B8 for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:dc0:a000:4:ddb2:7ba1:272d:c719] (unknown [IPv6:2001:dc0:a000:4:ddb2:7ba1:272d:c719]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by asmtp.apnic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AEFB67A2; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:28:39 +1000 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5F2A10BC-7187-4EF6-8B93-7B264ADA1551"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Byron Ellacott In-Reply-To: <2C35F8F0-BF27-4D5F-97F2-727DB0064309@nominet.org.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:28:38 +1000 Message-Id: <5F1B1839-9D17-44D8-813D-F7CDC07E97F7@apnic.net> References: <6E2B4A8B-75EA-43D4-91D8-2CF49FBB3BA9@nominet.org.uk> <9160A6B2-E250-4D62-AE62-3E77F64FA4E9@apnic.net> <2C35F8F0-BF27-4D5F-97F2-727DB0064309@nominet.org.uk> To: Ray Bellis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] Error handling in draft-newton-et-al-weirds-rir-query ? X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:28:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5F2A10BC-7187-4EF6-8B93-7B264ADA1551 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 16/11/2011, at 12:05 PM, Ray Bellis wrote: > On 16 Nov 2011, at 09:48, Byron Ellacott wrote: >>=20 >> My preference is: >>=20 >> c) Return a 404 error with detail in the response body. >=20 > Which kind of implies having the schema(s) include definitions for = status messages. Yes, it does, as well as a dictionary of expected return codes per = request. 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(ietf@meetecho.com@130.129.21.177) by smtp5.ad.aruba.it with SMTP; 16 Nov 2011 12:36:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4EC3AE5C.5090804@meetecho.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:36:44 +0100 From: Meetecho IETF support User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: weirds@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.ad.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: smtplq01.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [weirds] WEIRDS BOF session recording available X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:40:56 -0000 Dear all, the full recording (synchronized video, audio, slides and jabber room) of today's WEIRDS BOF is available. You can watch it by either clicking the proper link on the remote participation page (http://www.ietf.org/meeting/82/remote-participation.html#Meetecho), or by directly accessing the following URL: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf82/recordings For the chair(s): please feel free to put the link to the recording in the minutes, if you think this might be useful. In case of problems with the playout, just drop an e-mail to ietf-support@meetecho.com. Cheers, the Meetecho Team -- Meetecho s.r.l. Web Conferencing and Collaboration Tools www.meetecho.com From carlosm3011@gmail.com Wed Nov 16 05:14:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B5C21F9502 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:14:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, MANGLED_TOOL=2.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dE6pXYsmh3wD for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3124621F94FC for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by faap16 with SMTP id p16so1728853faa.31 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:14:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CwsUtKYVVB5q2v1DuIz60S2iMno+NFMqDlP8xlPFeBg=; b=bHsvwUwH9bIt5hEj4ljn3lPaiKDKyKq0+U0kxkfn93L9ZetNOo+ZWJ2hg3TRs27D/Z 2btJ44I5iDFr/m5ob0/7kW5JqbpApkvseUnKXr862UmSAtXeAYLl3zAEBf5dC7xA91DD FHldxgIyEbXndgeMWvmDnylGXOvjYZ/B+wt6s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.112.10 with SMTP id im10mr20090886lab.2.1321449271821; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:14:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: carlosm3011@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.10.197 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:14:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <883C1AFB-A5FF-4810-99A0-4D1DBE7EA705@lacnic.net> References: <20111115113814.GB23966@shinkuro.com> <883C1AFB-A5FF-4810-99A0-4D1DBE7EA705@lacnic.net> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:14:31 -0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uhkx6M6eNCOjrGUTZbRlvZZWmHE Message-ID: From: Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo To: Arturo Servin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: Re: [weirds] Materials for BoF X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:14:34 -0000 I have updated the document and corrected the typos. regards, Carlos On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: > > We discovered some typos, you can try: > http://restwhois.labs.lacnic.net/restfulwhois/ip/2001:13c7:7001::5 > http://restwhois.labs.lacnic.net/restfulwhois/operator/UY-LACN-LACNIC/ > The xml structure is mirroring the whois, but that was just for a quick > start. > Regards, > /as > On 16 Nov 2011, at 04:59, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote: > > Hello all, > > we (LACNIC) have put online a proof-of-concept RESTful WHOIS for you > to play with. It's really rough around the edges but we wanted to put > it online ahead of your BoF in Taipei. > > We have also drafted a quick I-D-esque document which you can use to > access the system: > > http://www.labs.lacnic.net/drupal/sites/default/files/draft-lacnic-weirds-restwhois-01.pdf > > Looking forward to your comments, > > Carlos > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Andrew Sullivan > wrote: > > Hi, > > In case anyone needs the materials for tomorrow for the BoF, here they > > are: > > Agenda &c: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-0.pdf > > Andy Newton: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-1.pdf > > Kaveh Ranjbar: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-2.pdf > > Steve Sheng: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/weirds-3.pdf > > Best, > > A > > -- > > Andrew Sullivan > > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > > _______________________________________________ > > weirds mailing list > > weirds@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > > > > > -- > -- > ========================= > Carlos M. Martinez-Cagnazzo > http://cagnazzo.name > ========================= > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > > > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > >