From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Oct 1 11:25:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61A111E820B; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:25:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YQKebH+StWda; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FE611E8153; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20131001182507.21382.30405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:25:07 -0700 Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:25:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data= Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Query Format Author(s) : Andrew Lee Newton Scott Hollenbeck Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2013-10-01 Abstract: This document describes uniform patterns to construct HTTP URLs that may be used to retrieve registration information from registries (including both Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) using "RESTful" web access patterns. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From shollenbeck@verisign.com Tue Oct 1 11:33:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC6A11E822B for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yZvy0EIEXySF for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og102.obsmtp.com (exprod6og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.183]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD32011E821E for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.verisign.com ([216.168.239.75]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob102.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUksVWt/KOHWXIB/DF1ztvwflY4Yok6Vd@postini.com; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:32:59 PDT Received: from brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.206]) by osprey.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r91IWvOL029147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:32:57 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:32:57 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHOvtORzMU+doAnKEOj6hRRWXKS3ZngKadw Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:32:57 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4928976B@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <20131001182507.21382.30405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20131001182507.21382.30405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:33:14 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:25 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: weirds@ietf.org > Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration > Data Service Working Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Query Format > Author(s) : Andrew Lee Newton > Scott Hollenbeck > Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt > Pages : 15 > Date : 2013-10-01 >From the change log: "Fixed query parameter typo by replacing "/?" with "?". Changed "asplain" = to "AS Plain". Added entity search by handle. Corrected section references= . Updated IDN search text." There are still some open questions about IDN search processing: 1. Normalization? Yes or no. If yes, which form? 2. Unicode partial matching. Refer to RFC 5892 and I-D.ietf-precis-nickname= or RFC 5891? Scott From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Tue Oct 1 12:04:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC311E8244 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.525 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.525 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AfYH-QgtY2q9 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266E21E820E for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2620::230:c000:999a:d50a:3015:7145] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:c000:999a:d50a:3015:7145]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8349403E6; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4928976B@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:03:54 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <817242F6-D877-478E-9FAC-0A02C3CE44A1@viagenie.ca> References: <20131001182507.21382.30405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4928976B@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:04:08 -0000 Le 2013-10-01 =E0 14:32, "Hollenbeck, Scott" = a =E9crit : >> -----Original Message----- >> From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:25 PM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: weirds@ietf.org >> Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt >>=20 >>=20 >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration >> Data Service Working Group of the IETF. >>=20 >> Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Query Format >> Author(s) : Andrew Lee Newton >> Scott Hollenbeck >> Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt >> Pages : 15 >> Date : 2013-10-01 >=20 >> =46rom the change log: >=20 > "Fixed query parameter typo by replacing "/?" with "?". Changed = "asplain" to "AS Plain". Added entity search by handle. Corrected = section references. Updated IDN search text." >=20 > There are still some open questions about IDN search processing: >=20 > 1. Normalization? Yes or no. If yes, which form? >=20 > 2. Unicode partial matching. Refer to RFC 5892 and = I-D.ietf-precis-nickname or RFC 5891? >=20 I think this (idn searching) warrants a good meeting time discussion in = Vancouver... Marc. > Scott > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From shollenbeck@verisign.com Tue Oct 1 12:06:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327B311E8229 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:06:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DGp9wyE2ogXO for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og113.obsmtp.com (exprod6og113.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E748F21F9E68 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.verisign.com ([216.168.239.75]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob113.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUksdKebR94b3zef+q0WrFe12jc393d1M@postini.com; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:06:20 PDT Received: from BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexchm01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.255]) by osprey.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r91J6Ed2030103 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:06:14 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:06:14 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Marc Blanchet Thread-Topic: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHOvtORzMU+doAnKEOj6hRRWXKS3ZngNFH2gAAAMBA= Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:06:14 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49289803@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <20131001182507.21382.30405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4928976B@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <817242F6-D877-478E-9FAC-0A02C3CE44A1@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <817242F6-D877-478E-9FAC-0A02C3CE44A1@viagenie.ca> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:06:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Blanchet [mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:04 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: weirds@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt >=20 > Le 2013-10-01 =E0 14:32, "Hollenbeck, Scott" a > =E9crit : >=20 > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:25 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: weirds@ietf.org > >> Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >> directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet > Registration > >> Data Service Working Group of the IETF. > >> > >> Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Query Format > >> Author(s) : Andrew Lee Newton > >> Scott Hollenbeck > >> Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt > >> Pages : 15 > >> Date : 2013-10-01 > > > >> From the change log: > > > > "Fixed query parameter typo by replacing "/?" with "?". Changed > "asplain" to "AS Plain". Added entity search by handle. Corrected > section references. Updated IDN search text." > > > > There are still some open questions about IDN search processing: > > > > 1. Normalization? Yes or no. If yes, which form? > > > > 2. Unicode partial matching. Refer to RFC 5892 and I-D.ietf-precis- > nickname or RFC 5891? > > >=20 > I think this (idn searching) warrants a good meeting time discussion in > Vancouver... I agree, and that's precisely why I already requested time to talk about it= . Are we confirmed, Murray? Scott From superuser@gmail.com Tue Oct 1 12:42:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE7321F9D22 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R+ZZGqfYYl+e for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13BD21F9193 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:39:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id n12so7940404wgh.27 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:38:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ec6k4aZowoZHMWPcocNKrWAYaxw374QMnycAJSkpMLg=; b=oyQEafaYhS6ZBDL63ixREIVUpQ9N1gHJNbCF93Z0yzYXPINYh6glJssaSGs1eOqTnc zdS/+R/xgBWoqisIQrr9AcazPrcyQQg0C+pt1BZ+x7OruYjRKcFIMQDX7bi+LZSMCQEl QynZXB58zlWz+fZOk+KijTqbzmJ29xWXn64M1rB4vVIGy0YTANnxSOpeMdTxoG99vC/M dph9DecRQ6OH1tWaLi9XTFxUrfdnfUst9ZK8Cevrr8VSKBoxRx9La3eVhmSLYFrSeNzU c4rHRhzEfUwsxGl7BHereSp/dDchStXOfxm0MnknC5ncBH2QhQnm6CFld46OxH8RkL9T slGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.184.107 with SMTP id et11mr20289985wic.60.1380656321675; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.18.202 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:38:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49289803@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <20131001182507.21382.30405.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4928976B@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <817242F6-D877-478E-9FAC-0A02C3CE44A1@viagenie.ca> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49289803@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:38:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c227ee9c682804e7b31984 Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:42:25 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:42:25 -0000 --001a11c227ee9c682804e7b31984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We haven't started crafting an agenda yet, but I'd say it's a safe bet that this will be on there. I'll try to get a rough agenda out in the next few days. It's due in a couple of weeks. -MSK On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marc Blanchet [mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:04 PM > > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > > Cc: weirds@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt > > > > Le 2013-10-01 =E0 14:32, "Hollenbeck, Scott" = a > > =E9crit : > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On > > >> Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:25 PM > > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > > >> Cc: weirds@ietf.org > > >> Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt > > >> > > >> > > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > >> directories. > > >> This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet > > Registration > > >> Data Service Working Group of the IETF. > > >> > > >> Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Query Format > > >> Author(s) : Andrew Lee Newton > > >> Scott Hollenbeck > > >> Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt > > >> Pages : 15 > > >> Date : 2013-10-01 > > > > > >> From the change log: > > > > > > "Fixed query parameter typo by replacing "/?" with "?". Changed > > "asplain" to "AS Plain". Added entity search by handle. Corrected > > section references. Updated IDN search text." > > > > > > There are still some open questions about IDN search processing: > > > > > > 1. Normalization? Yes or no. If yes, which form? > > > > > > 2. Unicode partial matching. Refer to RFC 5892 and I-D.ietf-precis- > > nickname or RFC 5891? > > > > > > > I think this (idn searching) warrants a good meeting time discussion in > > Vancouver... > > I agree, and that's precisely why I already requested time to talk about > it. Are we confirmed, Murray? > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > --001a11c227ee9c682804e7b31984 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We haven't started crafting an agenda yet, but I&= #39;d say it's a safe bet that this will be on there.

I'll t= ry to get a rough agenda out in the next few days.=A0 It's due in a cou= ple of weeks.

-MSK


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Hollenbeck, Scott <shol= lenbeck@verisign.com> wrote:
>= -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Blanchet [mailto:marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:04 PM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott
> Cc: weirds@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07.txt<= br> >
> Le 2013-10-01 =E0 14:32, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> a
> =E9crit :
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: weirds-bounc= es@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-b= ounces@ietf.org] On
> >> Behalf Of interne= t-drafts@ietf.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:25 PM
> >> To: i-d-announce@iet= f.org
> >> Cc: weirds@ietf.org > >> Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query-07= .txt
> >>
> >>
> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-D= rafts
> >> directories.
> >> This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet
> Registration
> >> Data Service Working Group of the IETF.
> >>
> >> =A0 =A0Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Registration Data Access P= rotocol Query Format
> >> =A0 =A0Author(s) =A0 =A0 =A0 : Andrew Lee Newton
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Scott Holl= enbeck
> >> =A0 =A0Filename =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-query= -07.txt
> >> =A0 =A0Pages =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 15
> >> =A0 =A0Date =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: 2013-10-01
> >
> >> From the change log:
> >
> > "Fixed query parameter typo by replacing "/?" with= "?". =A0Changed
> "asplain" to "AS Plain". =A0Added entity search by= handle. Corrected
> section references. Updated IDN search text."
> >
> > There are still some open questions about IDN search processing:<= br> > >
> > 1. Normalization? Yes or no. If yes, which form?
> >
> > 2. Unicode partial matching. Refer to RFC 5892 and I-D.ietf-preci= s-
> nickname or RFC 5891?
> >
>
> I think this (idn searching) warrants a good meeting time discussion i= n
> Vancouver...

I agree, and that's precisely why I already requested time = to talk about it. Are we confirmed, Murray?

Scott
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--001a11c227ee9c682804e7b31984-- From andy@arin.net Wed Oct 2 12:28:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF63C21F9E33 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:28:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ta0PUb6Lj0EZ for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.arin.net (smtp2.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF82221F9C6B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 83B7A21367E; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH06.corp.arin.net (chaxch06.corp.arin.net [192.149.252.95]) by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D4F2135AC; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net (10.1.30.17) by CHAXCH06.corp.arin.net (192.149.252.95) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:13:01 -0400 Received: from CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net ([169.254.1.243]) by CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net ([10.1.30.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:13:01 -0400 From: Andy Newton To: John Levine , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Object inventory update Thread-Index: AQHOu4h/9zg91X1p+kCTejeY8eLDJZncmmAAgACEeoCAABTTgIAEnByA Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 19:13:00 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130929164921.45188.qmail@joyce.lan> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [10.1.30.36] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Object inventory update X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:28:40 -0000 When the RIRs met to put together a unified model, many things were purposefully left out, among them the routing registry specific objects and queries. The intent was that such objects and queries, including IP search queries for more specific nets, would be added at a later time when it was felt the community desired them. At present there is not much in the way of IRR community participation on this list. I think adding these objects and queries to our documents now would further delay us as we would need to seek out IRR participants for their feedback. -andy On 9/29/13 12:49 PM, "John Levine" wrote: >>Is it the goal of RDAP to be able to query all of these registries for >>all this information? > >To the extent possible, yes definitely. > >Keep in mind that doesn't mean that all the RIRs have to provide the >same data or answer the same set of queries. It does mean that for >the data they do provide, the query and response formats are the same. >If some RIRs respond to queries with the JSON equivalent of "I don't >know" for the stuff they don't handle, that's OK. > >R's, >John >_______________________________________________ >weirds mailing list >weirds@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > From johnl@iecc.com Wed Oct 2 15:55:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EAC21F9EC8 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:55:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id se-6iRE63Xxr for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FAD21F9EE5 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16569 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2013 22:54:44 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2013 22:54:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=524ca434.xn--3zv.k1309; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=ETdXKhVr5M0j1IWrTPk3pNwccxlSnM3DSWOQrsu7mNY=; b=H4RelvaMG0XGUUgEGFxZ+5xkDEMoC2Om490GzO71hP2DUMnL4EKlLSEJV5JQRBfseNqOI6S3W8JUVpXxsKBId8UHA0WphCrIfZVjjZOd1BuM+MlYO5kn2IdmJbJU5T63RLhq0T+S8Kkay1RkHfwBDC4rJjhVFMYtgOhjJ2rcNTvf5P/PRR5/8zeMn2ShdLARrJuWuiTJft+OSff+5z44wX/ctc0cufVXwCJj512ZoIwZUJG1fPeh38DfFDr+FV8A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=524ca434.xn--3zv.k1309; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=ETdXKhVr5M0j1IWrTPk3pNwccxlSnM3DSWOQrsu7mNY=; b=Hz/NtJbfOu4yjvKoNCmBbM/qXEdQnsKfitzyy/5RAKbDwvXwB4SOI93CAcBH4Qb48yGEz5jeZBoMMg8foFQRzYX7DbBdiXMUcesQrXsWQVZQO43+Eeja1MuW2OjJy/FVeoRaehz0dUMieQrTD577winx1zOFWphWAB4o9eCrLOjf7A1ve19HrOwIcNiocYZVjPG8dH4pOLMTl0pbiYNy+wEU9tdgN2drtoSHHUfj2M4GaOJfUwpQNHLKwQFw9+eo Date: 2 Oct 2013 22:54:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20131002225422.79950.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: weirds@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] Object inventory update X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 22:55:56 -0000 In article you write: >When the RIRs met to put together a unified model, many things were >purposefully left out, among them the routing registry specific objects >and queries. The intent was that such objects and queries, including IP >search queries for more specific nets, would be added at a later time when >it was felt the community desired them. At present there is not much in >the way of IRR community participation on this list. I think adding these >objects and queries to our documents now would further delay us as we >would need to seek out IRR participants for their feedback. Ah. That seems reasonable. Is it worth putting in a sentence making it explicit that we know about those objects but are not addressing them at this time? From andy@arin.net Thu Oct 3 03:00:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594AA21F9E8B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 03:00:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qmubl1P4wr9V for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 03:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.arin.net (smtp2.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5B421E804D for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 02:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 123EE2136A5; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 05:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (chaxch05.corp.arin.net [192.149.252.94]) by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B6621367D; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 05:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH04.corp.arin.net (10.1.30.19) by CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (192.149.252.94) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 05:56:11 -0400 Received: from CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net ([169.254.1.243]) by CHAXCH04.corp.arin.net ([10.1.30.19]) with mapi id 14.02.0347.000; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 05:56:10 -0400 From: Andy Newton To: John Levine , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Object inventory update Thread-Index: AQHOu4h/9zg91X1p+kCTejeY8eLDJZncmmAAgACEeoCAABTTgIAEnByAgACA3wCAAHXXAA== Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:56:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20131002225422.79950.qmail@joyce.lan> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [192.149.252.96] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Object inventory update X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:00:15 -0000 On 10/2/13 6:54 PM, "John Levine" wrote: >In article you write: >>When the RIRs met to put together a unified model, many things were >>purposefully left out, among them the routing registry specific objects >>and queries. The intent was that such objects and queries, including IP >>search queries for more specific nets, would be added at a later time >>when >>it was felt the community desired them. At present there is not much in >>the way of IRR community participation on this list. I think adding these >>objects and queries to our documents now would further delay us as we >>would need to seek out IRR participants for their feedback. > >Ah. That seems reasonable. Is it worth putting in a sentence making >it explicit that we know about those objects but are not addressing >them at this time? > > I think that would make sense. Good idea. -andy From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Oct 3 12:02:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2F421F9AA7; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.080, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XQ0e05xfvZod; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 12:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0451C21F9703; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:52:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20131003185209.14774.85009.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 11:52:09 -0700 Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:02:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data= Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : JSON Responses for the Registration Data Access Protocol= (RDAP) Author(s) : Andrew Lee Newton Scott Hollenbeck Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06.txt Pages : 82 Date : 2013-10-03 Abstract: This document describes JSON data structures representing registration information maintained by Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs). These data structures are used to form Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) query responses. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-json-response There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01419acc81e8a904e7f2625c Subject: [weirds] Fwd: NOMCOM 2013 - Second Call for Nominations - two weeks left X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 23:08:56 -0000 --089e01419acc81e8a904e7f2625c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: NomCom Chair 2013 Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:31 AM Subject: NOMCOM 2013 - Second Call for Nominations - two weeks left To: IETF Announcement List Cc: IETF Discuss List Nominations for the IESG, IAB, and IAOC are due to the Nomcom by Friday, 18 October, 2013. Is there someone you work with at IETF who has leadership potential and a growing track record? Please read the Nomcom call for nominations and consider nominating her or him. Or several folks! Deadline for nominations is October 18. Nominate soon to give your nominee(s) plenty time to fill in the questionnaire. Information about the desired expertise for positions is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/expertise Lots more, including which positions are open, how to make a nomination, and how to send us your feedback on the desired expertise, follows. IETFers, let's hear from you! Make nominations, accept nominations! If you have any questions about the process, feel free to get in touch with me. Best regards, Allison for the Nomcom Allison Mankin Nomcom Chair 2013-14 ----- The Info You Need for Nominating ----- The 2013-14 Nominating Committee (Nomcom) is seeking nominations from now until October 18, 2013. The open positions being considered by this year's Nomcom can be found later in this section, and also on this year's Nomcom website: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/ Nominations may be made by selecting the Nominate link at the top of the Nomcom 2013 home page, or by visiting the following URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/nominate/ Note that nominations made using the web tool require an ietf.org datatracker account. You can create a datatracker ietf.org account if you don't have one already by visiting the following URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/ Nominations may also be made by email to nomcom13 at ietf.org. If you nominate by email, please include the word "Nominate" in the Subject and indicate in the email who is being nominated, their email address (to confirm acceptance of the nomination), and the position for which you are making the nomination. If you use email, please use a separate email for each person you nominate, and for each position (if you are nominating one person for multiple positions). Self-nomination is welcome! No need to be shy. Nomcom 2013-14 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees" described in RFC 5680. As stated in RFC 5680: "The list of nominees willing to be considered for positions under review in the current Nomcom cycle is not confidential". Willing nominees for each position will be listed in a publicly accessible way - anyone with a datatracker account may access the lists. In all other ways, the confidentiality requirements of RFC 3777/BCP10 remain in effect. All feedback and all Nomcom deliberations will remain confidential and will not be disclosed. In order to ensure time to collect sufficient community feedback about each of the willing nominees, nominations must be received by the Nomcom on or before October 18, 2013. Please submit your nominations as early as possible for the sake of your nominees, as we've set the questionnaire submission deadline for October 25, 2013. The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2014 IETF meeting, and thus the positions for which we are accepting nominations: IAOC Chris Griffiths IAB Bernard Aboba Marc Blanchet Ross Callon Eliot Lear Hannes Tschofenig IESG Barry Leiba (Applications) Brian Haberman (Internet) Benoit Claise (Operations and Management) Gonzalo Camarillo (RAI) Stewart Bryant (Routing) Sean Turner (Security) Martin Stiemerling (Transport) Please be resourceful in identifying possible candidates for these positions, as developing our talent is a very crucial requirement for the IETF. Also, please give serious consideration to accepting nominations you receive. The summaries of the desired expertise for the positions, developed by the respective bodies, are found at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/expertise/ In addition to nominations, the Nomcom seeks community input on the positions themselves. We need and welcome the community's views and input on the jobs within each organization. If you have ideas on the positions' responsibilities (more, less, different), please let us know. You can send us email about this to nomcom13 at ietf.org, and we will use this feedback actively. Thank you for your help in nominating a great pool of strong and interesting nominees! --089e01419acc81e8a904e7f2625c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


---------- Forwarded me= ssage ----------
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Date: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Subject: NOMCOM 2013 - Second Call fo= r Nominations - two weeks left
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Cc: IETF = Discuss List <ietf@ietf.org>


Nominations for the IESG, IAB, and IAOC are due to the Nomcom by Fr= iday, 18 October, 2013.

Is there someone you work with at IETF who has leadership potential and a g= rowing track record? Please read the Nomcom call for nominations and consid= er nominating her or him. Or several folks! Deadline for nominations is Oct= ober 18. =A0Nominate soon to give your nominee(s) plenty time to fill in th= e questionnaire. Information about the desired expertise for positions is h= ere:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/exper= tise

Lots more, including which positions are open, how to make a nomination, an= d how to
send us your feedback on the desired expertise, follows.

IETFers, let's hear from you! =A0Make nominations, accept nominations!<= br>
If you have any questions about the process, feel free to get in touch with= me.

Best regards,

Allison for the Nomcom

Allison Mankin
Nomcom Chair 2013-14

----- The Info You Need for Nominating -----

The 2013-14 Nominating Committee (Nomcom) is seeking nominations
from now until October 18, 2013. The open positions being considered
by this year's Nomcom can be found later in this section, and also on this year's Nomcom website:

htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/

Nominations may be made by selecting the Nominate link at the top of
the Nomcom 2013 home page, or by visiting the following URL:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/nominate/

Note that nominations made using the web tool require an ietf.org
datatracker account. You can create a datatracker ietf.org account
if you don't have one already by visiting the following URL:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/

Nominations may also be made by email to nomcom13 at ietf.org.
If you nominate by email, please include the word "Nominate" in t= he Subject
and indicate in the email who is being nominated, their email address (to confirm acceptance of the nomination), and the position for which you
are making the nomination. If you use email, please use a separate email fo= r
each person you nominate, and for each position (if you are nominating one<= br> person for multiple positions).

Self-nomination is welcome! =A0No need to be shy.

Nomcom 2013-14 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure of Willing<= br> Nominees" described in RFC 5680. =A0As stated in RFC 5680: "The l= ist of
nominees willing to be considered for positions under review in the
current Nomcom cycle is not confidential". Willing nominees for each position will be listed in a publicly accessible way - anyone with a
datatracker account may access the lists. =A0In all other ways, the
confidentiality requirements of RFC 3777/BCP10 remain in effect. =A0All
feedback and all Nomcom deliberations will remain confidential and will
not be disclosed.

In order to ensure time to collect sufficient community feedback about
each of the willing nominees, nominations must be received by the
Nomcom on or before October 18, 2013. =A0Please submit your nominations
as early as possible for the sake of your nominees, as we've set the questionnaire submission deadline for October 25, 2013.

The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2014 IETF meeti= ng,
and thus the positions for which we are accepting nominations:

IAOC
Chris Griffiths

IAB
Bernard Aboba
Marc Blanchet
Ross Callon
Eliot Lear
Hannes Tschofenig

IESG
Barry Leiba (Applications)
Brian Haberman (Internet)
Benoit Claise (Operations and Management)
Gonzalo Camarillo (RAI)
Stewart Bryant (Routing)
Sean Turner (Security)
Martin Stiemerling (Transport)

Please be resourceful in identifying possible candidates for these
positions, as developing our talent is a very crucial requirement for
the IETF. =A0Also, please give serious consideration to accepting nominatio= ns
you receive.

The summaries of the desired expertise for the positions, developed by the<= br> respective bodies, are found at:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2013/expertise/

In addition to nominations, the Nomcom seeks community input on
the positions themselves. =A0We need and welcome the community's
views and input on the jobs within each organization. If you
have ideas on the positions' responsibilities (more, less,
different), please let us know. =A0You can send us email about this to
nomcom13 at ietf.org, and= we will use this feedback actively.

Thank you for your help in nominating a great pool of strong and interestin= g
nominees!




--089e01419acc81e8a904e7f2625c-- From superuser@gmail.com Sat Oct 5 19:43:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFCC21F9DFC for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P4Cxwnt8yBRX for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 19:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C3821F84F8 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 19:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cb5so3320052wib.10 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 19:43:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ExMPAsZ5ZIIu8XZQPaYrMybUft7uc5xxXBvk2Q3B/xQ=; b=IzD/Opz9DQmVLlG5Xmhik87rllI6jJEmy+OapxqOOrhllGVrDnWafwY8kNMuwlddKj RQN2aQwTRoS1UwwU2PLrccDxdZCRrmzmW3UkStEm2DHmEXMo+dmyifmDcGGXevS0lFZW IdlbHLMCX1LfB4CTk4TToD3CzpbriL8tM0/Zy6woznToxSgoA+HRWOkP4WpI/jg7cwJX 1wk9d3Ulx3UTv2mAEp7WS3sFIAjDdLHIMc4+o0jn4gvfEkrHVE1evnoC8XO7Hq3A3JFs NyFfUc39FL/CNBQWLtBE22TrqsmbQy6ObfzxkvV4wLFM3WSR3uKARiqc9q1JSuNIF4RV RJFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.105.198 with SMTP id go6mr13500403wib.0.1381027382252; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 19:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.18.202 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 19:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 19:43:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0418258c8b5c6104e8097e6f Subject: [weirds] IETF 88 Preliminary Agenda available X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 02:43:06 -0000 --f46d0418258c8b5c6104e8097e6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The IETF 88 Preliminary Agenda has been posted. The final agenda will be published on Friday, October 11th. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/88/agenda.html https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/88/agenda.txt We tentatively have a two-hour slot on Thursday afternoon. See you all there! -MSK --f46d0418258c8b5c6104e8097e6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The IETF 88 Preliminary Agenda has been posted. = The final agenda will be published on Friday, October 11th.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/88/agenda.html
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/88/agenda.txt

W= e tentatively have a two-hour slot on Thursday afternoon.=A0 See you all th= ere!

-MSK
--f46d0418258c8b5c6104e8097e6f-- From zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn Sat Oct 5 20:37:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AD221F9DE1 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HWC4tjVgFqu4 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6066C21F9DBA for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2013 20:37:28 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO lenovo95e6383c) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 11:37:23 +0800 From: "Linlin Zhou" To: "'John Levine'" , References: <20131002225422.79950.qmail@joyce.lan> In-Reply-To: <20131002225422.79950.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 11:45:13 +0800 Message-ID: <00a101cec246$79fd3660$6df7a320$@cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac6/wo/zHlnMJqToRpa73dulAo0mqQCcefGw Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: Re: [weirds] Object inventory update X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 03:37:34 -0000 I'll try to add a RIR survey result including the analysis of the data models of IP address, ASN, Person or contact and the organization that held the resource. In addition, clarify why we address the selected objects in this draft not them all. Regards, Linlin > -----Original Message----- > From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > John Levine > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:54 AM > To: weirds@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [weirds] Object inventory update > > In article you write: > >When the RIRs met to put together a unified model, many things were > >purposefully left out, among them the routing registry specific objects > >and queries. The intent was that such objects and queries, including IP > >search queries for more specific nets, would be added at a later time > >when it was felt the community desired them. At present there is not > >much in the way of IRR community participation on this list. I think > >adding these objects and queries to our documents now would further > >delay us as we would need to seek out IRR participants for their feedback. > > Ah. That seems reasonable. Is it worth putting in a sentence making it > explicit that we know about those objects but are not addressing them at this > time? > > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 14 10:26:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501AD21E8171; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:26:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ae1Lpm38IRz; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545F621E8177; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.80.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20131014172654.11458.27459.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 10:26:54 -0700 Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:26:56 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data= Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Object Inventory Analy= sis Author(s) : Linlin Zhou Ning Kong Sean Shen Arturo Servin Steve Sheng Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2013-10-12 Abstract: WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) were collected and analyzed. This document describes the statistical analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. The purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) responses. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn Mon Oct 14 18:49:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325BF21E805D for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:49:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BW7HdtNyVshw for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E07521F93C4 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:48:56 -0700 (PDT) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO lenovo95e6383c) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 09:48:53 +0800 From: "Linlin Zhou" To: Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 09:48:56 +0800 Message-ID: <00c401cec948$b63dba10$22b92e30$@cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac7JArCVwNoAUWVgQiee4iH/NFrl9QAPqVtg Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:49:01 -0000 * The draft added a section of RIR object inventory including IP address, ASN, contact and organization query types. * Added Change Log section. * Exchanged section 2 and section 3. Any comments are welcome. Regards, Linlin -----Original Message----- From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:27 AM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Object Inventory Analysis Author(s) : Linlin Zhou Ning Kong Sean Shen Arturo Servin Steve Sheng Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2013-10-12 Abstract: WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) were collected and analyzed. This document describes the statistical analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. The purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) responses. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From kambe@jprs.co.jp Fri Oct 18 02:48:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A39721F9E12 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 02:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 495isq9EwnCI for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 02:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp [IPv6:2001:df0:8:17::10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1E811E810C for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 02:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp [172.18.8.32]) by off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r9I9mfgV014002 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:48:41 +0900 X-AuditID: ac120820-b7f196d00000167f-cf-526103f9201a Received: from localhost (off-cpu04.tyo.jprs.co.jp [172.18.4.14]) by off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 18.A8.05759.9F301625; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:48:41 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:48:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20131018.184840.229751654.kambe@jprs.co.jp> To: weirds@ietf.org From: Naoki Kambe In-Reply-To: <20131003185209.14774.85009.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20131003185209.14774.85009.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Organization: Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2.52 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrJIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsWyRoiFT/cnc2KQwetfzBbzu46zODB6LFny kymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr4/ecZqaCLbwVrU/uMDYwzuXqYuTkkBAwkTh1bw0ThC0mceHe erYuRi4OIYGTjBKX3r1nB0mwCGhL9Lw9wgxi8wpYSHy8+RksLiIgLLH45TsWEFtYwFzi1p57 YIPYBFQklt3bDGZzCjhJrFr9CqxXSMBRYvX/40D1HBz8AvoSU5tSIPbaSTT9fQcW5hUQlPi7 QxgkzCygJdEz4zE7hC0vsf3tHOYJjPyzEKpmIamahaRqASPzKkaZ/LQ03eLUvJTi3HQDQ72S yny9rIKiYr1kEL2JERxyHAo7GGecMjjEKMDBqMTD286UECTEmlhWXJl7iFGSg0lJlFf/C1CI Lyk/pTIjsTgjvqg0J7X4EKMEB7OSCO/zv0A53pTEyqrUonyYlDQHi5I47/E/ZwKFBNITS1Kz U1MLUotgsjIcHEoSvOeYEoOEBItS01Mr0jJzShDSTBycIMN5gIbfB6nhLS5IzC3OTIfIn2KU lBLnnQ+SEABJZJTmwfW+YhQHekGYdw1IlgeYPuC6XgENZAIaKDwxDmRgSSJCSqqB0fQLn7vM 9Zgdivwn78y0nBd99WhbY/qcr2qXvPn6HoZE/3rautiWsVhjh3b96yrOW4uabmpalDy/VX5A JPC668mLURXrJoXx+PjGfkyb+pdza0ZRffKx7UW2IvnTjx5jbJvAuenZL4bjCa84faq2Cm/p yfZiWS/wzlo9yrJ0sZro0tM1qY8LlViKMxINtZiLihMB3FwIwdwCAAA= Subject: [weirds] Comments on draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06 X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:48:43 -0000 Hello, I found something like typo and have a minor comment on draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06. The comment is about street addresses of an entity. Excuse me if this topic is already discussed. --- 6.3. The Domain Object Class ... "ldhName" : "blah.example.com", ... "nameServers" : [ Should "nameServers" be "nameservers"? I found other two same typos. --- A.1. Registrants and Contacts ... embedded entity that is both a registrant and admin contact: ... "roles" : [ "registrant", "admin" ], ... Should these "admin" be "administrative" according to definition of 10.2.3.? I found another same typo. --- Appendix C. Structured vs Unstructured Addresses I felt confusion between street address in Appendix C and street addresses described in RFC 5733(EPP Contact Mapping). This I-D says here about these addresses: ... 1. post office box - not applicable, empty string 2. extended address (e.g., apartment or suite number) - Suite 1234 3. street address - 4321 Rue Somewhere OTOH, an example in 3.1.2. EPP Command in RFC 5733: ... S: S: 123 Example Dr. S: Suite 100 ... In this werds I-D, addresses under street address are strictly separated according to jCal specification. But in RFC 5733, they are all put into . Also these orders seem opposite. Especially for an implementor who is not familiar with US addressing like me, it would be better if something like a hint for conversion between them is described around here. Regards, Naoki Kambe From shollenbeck@verisign.com Mon Oct 21 04:50:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1583211E83A7 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:50:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.149, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G7IIDCYxEXpG for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og109.obsmtp.com (exprod6og109.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC1611E8170 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob109.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUmUU6ZGfMEuarT/tpaWWjzmwUivUVYZJ@postini.com; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 04:50:03 PDT Received: from brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.205]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r9LBo0ch016870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:50:00 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:49:45 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Call for WEIRDS Agenda items for November Thread-Index: AQHOrY9Jod/i8uMSvkKEBzA9c2wnPZn/S6qQ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:49:50 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492B8D6B@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492B8D6BBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Call for WEIRDS Agenda items for November X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:50:34 -0000 --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492B8D6BBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Murray, do you have an agenda identified for the meeting? If Andy and I wil= l have an opportunity to talk about the query/response search issues we're = going to need to pull a few slides together. Scott From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Murray S. Kucherawy Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:02 PM To: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] Call for WEIRDS Agenda items for November Colleagues, It's that time again. If you would like to make a presentation to WEIRDS w= hen we convene in November, or if you would like to request that someone co= ver a specific topic, please email weirds-chairs@tools.ietf.org with your topic and requested time. We need some= idea of how long the meeting will be so we can request an appropriate time= slot. As I said in Berlin, we will be more liberal with the amount of tim= e we request since we seem to consistently run out of time, but we still ne= ed some idea in advance of what the agenda will look like so we can be sure= major subject areas are covered. The deadline for us to request a time slot is only a few weeks away, so ple= ase don't leave your requests until the last minute. Thanks! -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492B8D6BBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Murray, do you have an agenda identified f= or the meeting? If Andy and I will have an opportunity to talk about the qu= ery/response search issues we’re going to need to pull a few slides together.

 

Scott

 

From: weirds-b= ounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:02 PM
To: weirds@ietf.org
Subject: [weirds] Call for WEIRDS Agenda items for November

 

Colleagues,

It's that time again.  If you would like to make a presentation to WEI= RDS when we convene in November, or if you would like to request that someo= ne cover a specific topic, please email weirds-chairs@tools.ietf.or= g with your topic and requested time.  We need some idea of how lo= ng the meeting will be so we can request an appropriate time slot.  As= I said in Berlin, we will be more liberal with the amount of time we request since we seem to consistently run out of tim= e, but we still need some idea in advance of what the agenda will look like= so we can be sure major subject areas are covered.

The deadline for us to request a time slot is only a few weeks away, so ple= ase don't leave your requests until the last minute.

Thanks!

-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair

--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492B8D6BBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_-- From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Mon Oct 21 08:57:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2534211E8544 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:57:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OnS4u9vJ3eGV for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40DB11E85A4 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2620:0:230:2002::1001] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:2002::1001]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 927C4401F0 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:55:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Blanchet Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_31A4B801-8DA9-4A58-B5E0-A99182F5A059" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:55:19 -0400 References: <20131021155024.29409.44007.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "weirds@ietf.org Group" Message-Id: <1DCFFB1A-C5F1-493A-A3EC-235957891D5D@viagenie.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Subject: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:57:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_31A4B801-8DA9-4A58-B5E0-A99182F5A059 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, based on our discussion on bootstrap in Berlin and the ideas suggested = to use a label under the TLD for the names and the NRO file for IP = addresses and AS, I wrote this draft to capture the ideas. Hopefully, it = is in line with the suggestions. It is not full baked but enough to = discuss I think. When we will reach concensus on the method(DNS, IANA, = this one), I'll update appropriately. comments welcome. Regards, Marc. D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 : > De : internet-drafts@ietf.org > Objet : I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt > Date : 21 octobre 2013 11:50:24 HAE > =C0 : i-d-announce@ietf.org > R=E9pondre =E0 : internet-drafts@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >=20 >=20 > Title : Finding the Authoritative Registration Data = (RDAP) Server > Author(s) : Marc Blanchet > Filename : = draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt > Pages : 6 > Date : 2013-10-21 >=20 > Abstract: > This document specifies a method to find which Registration Data > Access Protocol (RDAP) server is authoritative to answer queries for > a requested scope, such as domain names, IP addresses or Autonomous > System numbers. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomou= s >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt --Apple-Mail=_31A4B801-8DA9-4A58-B5E0-A99182F5A059 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Objet : I-D Action: = draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt
Date : 21 octobre 2013 = 11:50:24 HAE
R=E9pondre =E0 : = internet-drafts@ietf.org
<= /span>


A New Internet-Draft is available from the = on-line Internet-Drafts directories.


Title =           : Finding = the Authoritative Registration Data (RDAP) Server
Author(s) =       : Marc Blanchet
Filename =        : = draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt
Pages =           : 6
Date =            : = 2013-10-21

Abstract:
  This document specifies a = method to find which Registration Data
  Access Protocol = (RDAP) server is authoritative to answer queries for
  a = requested scope, such as domain names, IP addresses or Autonomous
=   System numbers.


The IETF datatracker status page = for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstra= p-autonomous

There's also a htmlized version available = at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomo= us-00


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from = the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are = available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available = by anonymous FTP = at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

________________________= _______________________
I-D-Announce mailing = list
I-D-Announce@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d= -announce
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or = ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt

= = --Apple-Mail=_31A4B801-8DA9-4A58-B5E0-A99182F5A059-- From dblumenthal@pir.org Mon Oct 21 10:57:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CCB11E8227 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:57:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cTnV4h4zRxHy for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hub028-ca-7.exch028.serverdata.net (hub028-ca-7.exch028.serverdata.net [64.78.52.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03E511E839D for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MBX028-W1-CA-2.exch028.domain.local ([10.254.18.52]) by HUB028-CA-7.exch028.domain.local ([10.254.18.233]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:57:15 -0700 From: Don Blumenthal To: "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: ICANN Whois Technical Requirements Survey Thread-Index: AQHOzob58El1xKv5tkGisv23O9q0nw== Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:57:14 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.8.130913 x-originating-ip: [108.211.201.119] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CE8AE3374A65Bdblumenthalpirorg_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [weirds] ICANN Whois Technical Requirements Survey X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:57:45 -0000 --_000_CE8AE3374A65Bdblumenthalpirorg_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We had a thread about the survey a long time ago, and I promised to send th= e final version of the report when it was done. It took a lot longer than it should have for a few reasons, but the report = now is official after the ICANN GNSO Council approved it last week (more bu= reaucratese than necessary, I guess). http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/wswg-final-21aug13-en.pdf Don --_000_CE8AE3374A65Bdblumenthalpirorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7683DEFA664E2847B1D8BCFB7DA668F0@exch028.domain.local> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We had a= thread about the survey a long time ago, and I promised to send the final = version of the report when it was done.

It took = a lot longer than it should have for a few reasons, but the report now is o= fficial after the ICANN GNSO Council approved it last week (more bureaucrat= ese than necessary, I guess).

http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/wswg-final-21aug13-en.pdf

Don

--_000_CE8AE3374A65Bdblumenthalpirorg_-- From shollenbeck@verisign.com Mon Oct 21 11:20:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF67F11E8448 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:20:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ql3Gq1J+qSab for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og107.obsmtp.com (exprod6og107.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F80211E8451 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob107.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUmVwZ9LH8RUNZWXJ3Dj7q0+5yPaY8ZvK@postini.com; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:20:24 PDT Received: from BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexchm01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.255]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r9LIKMfd031106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:20:22 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:20:08 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Don Blumenthal , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: ICANN Whois Technical Requirements Survey Thread-Index: AQHOzob58El1xKv5tkGisv23O9q0n5n/dx0Q Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:20:11 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492BA94E@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492BA94EBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] ICANN Whois Technical Requirements Survey X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:20:31 -0000 --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492BA94EBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After taking a quick glance I'm pretty confident that we didn't miss anythi= ng. Scott From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Don Blumenthal Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:57 PM To: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] ICANN Whois Technical Requirements Survey We had a thread about the survey a long time ago, and I promised to send th= e final version of the report when it was done. It took a lot longer than it should have for a few reasons, but the report = now is official after the ICANN GNSO Council approved it last week (more bu= reaucratese than necessary, I guess). http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois/wswg-final-21aug13-en.pdf Don --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492BA94EBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

After taking a quick glance I’m pret= ty confident that we didn’t miss anything.

 

Scott

 

From: weirds-b= ounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Don Blumenthal
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:57 PM
To: weirds@ietf.org
Subject: [weirds] ICANN Whois Technical Requirements Survey

 

We had a thread about the s= urvey a long time ago, and I promised to send the final version of the repo= rt when it was done.

 

It took a lot longer than i= t should have for a few reasons, but the report now is official after the I= CANN GNSO Council approved it last week (more bureaucratese than necessary, I guess).

 

 

Don

 =

--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492BA94EBRN1WNEXMBX01vc_-- From superuser@gmail.com Mon Oct 21 12:02:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D3A21E8093 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:02:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MXkkShTgTG4q for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x232.google.com (mail-wg0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD9F11E8249 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id n12so6989247wgh.17 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XjmlXwZx917PwZL49etx87bO3PdSdeVkb3yCX1iNsQM=; b=OoaD4ZJ+uHCyca1rMFhyGInWnhUoVyKUmhuKYMlHOXfzEzxapJq22xbzez3yPd5lmK 6EZa+A8DKdsRVitnBJ4LUAa/1661I34ZxIAPfE9dGcfVAZk0m0o13pf2tzPln+ET1q5c B7NXC29PI1R+bAySjpb5LQFLWs5XLhAhWh5fhbClLTmlXDEM4f0N0jZNeZhhItKwuBVC 3bXX2P5PNxMzvuvEq884dy0g80csy0xKY6SzWFROsIJgqkK2mvQhlfqWsi/FWIu6d+Dq nxg3IkrFg8sE0P41/tYJLwQvCO5O9toLVtV4Bh5HWhh8N+StJiKZxHBU/p1NjulO+n/9 FzPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.178.166 with SMTP id cz6mr3198588wjc.53.1382381960591; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.18.202 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:59:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d1a0cb4822e04e944e1a9 Subject: [weirds] Draft IETF 88 WEIRDS agenda posted X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:02:15 -0000 --089e013d1a0cb4822e04e944e1a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The draft WEIRDS agenda is now available at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/agenda/agenda-88-weirds Please let us know ASAP if there are any changes needed. -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --089e013d1a0cb4822e04e944e1a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
The draft WEIRDS agenda is now available at:

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/agenda/agenda-88-weirds

Please let us know ASAP if there are any changes needed.

-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair

--089e013d1a0cb4822e04e944e1a9-- From prvs=0999251037=johnl@iecc.com Mon Oct 21 13:40:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E03311E81C8 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.209 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.209 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.210, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9SgBUjSFAIJO for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8765211E8438 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 13:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 93130 invoked from network); 21 Oct 2013 20:39:54 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 21 Oct 2013 20:39:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=5265911a.xn--30v786c.k1310; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=ONI6YgTlQajnl23zE3hc3aJ6o4n+Z5rFaGhujGxiwuQ=; b=rCcK6SSz2YO4lvPUu+2JUkO3pSdeYRTy3Dl9BRYScjYetihLsuHVyCewkzO5MLo8znAYjgzW5E4ug4yZXr/EbPU7LytTMxm/enRmxof9AtsXGvSNmVK3L/fao8lG2gEa2mY9b988qXiKDdxG8agjeQtWPKLwd+UpDhWvf4cGO8Bs2mLWMRyoLSlb41/TX7MfwINqoZN8rtLyTL5GNMFldGV46RChBZ2Fu/WIAxriJt4/Evocji285vRgNeRnCwkU DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=5265911a.xn--30v786c.k1310; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=ONI6YgTlQajnl23zE3hc3aJ6o4n+Z5rFaGhujGxiwuQ=; b=fM7C3izamV5sr7LzUsY7iFA07cGdgTdtFVtD1UNdVRKWwNfMLw7Fm0fXbXJ7+BzPgKlahTtTPCFO4be9H4ik6qu3dy8PAvxbPkF1lLTeRj9K5VSfsFXNUKAkFj3jhJZw4aWobhqDzMne+M8+oWfaEdim8hjeH8aXAO0OVLlg3QvXTrkkMH0NaIVq/o2efuqUrXNJjJ+oRgUx5Ivq7Rb0j1JUH19udyNL0kUIDL/ALjXncTdUfWQPo6J+Z9cHGQDm Date: 21 Oct 2013 20:39:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20131021203932.12363.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: weirds@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <1DCFFB1A-C5F1-493A-A3EC-235957891D5D@viagenie.ca> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:40:42 -0000 In article <1DCFFB1A-C5F1-493A-A3EC-235957891D5D@viagenie.ca> you write: >-=-=-=-=-=- >-=-=-=-=-=- > >Hello, > based on our discussion on bootstrap in Berlin and the ideas suggested to use >a label under the TLD for the names and the NRO file for IP addresses and AS, I >wrote this draft to capture the ideas. Hopefully, it is in line with the >suggestions. It is not full baked but enough to discuss I think. When we will >reach concensus on the method(DNS, IANA, this one), I'll update appropriately. > >comments welcome. It looks basically OK -- most of the alternatives have been ruled out so these are what's left. A and AAAA in the TLDs are no good unless we want to invent a new reserved name and check to make sure that nobody has used it yet. For the numbers bootstraps, assuming the RIRs are agreeable, I'd like to say that the much smaller IANA allocation list is an acceptable substitute for the NRO list. I expect some people will find a 300,000 line bootstrap file a bit rich for their setups. The differences between the IANA and NRO files should all be known to the relevant RIRs, who can issue redirects, no? R's de Montréal, John From andy@arin.net Mon Oct 21 14:25:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3691811E837A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nvTDva6KEood for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.arin.net (smtp1.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1775911E842C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp1.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 71DF21650C1; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH06.corp.arin.net (chaxch06.corp.arin.net [192.149.252.95]) by smtp1.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934F21650BE; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:25:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net (10.1.30.17) by CHAXCH06.corp.arin.net (192.149.252.95) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:25:21 -0400 Received: from CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net ([169.254.1.243]) by CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net ([10.1.30.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:25:20 -0400 From: Andy Newton To: Naoki Kambe , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Comments on draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06 Thread-Index: AQHOy+c9kxYUTkIrhESUHoIRa/Nj35n/sFKA Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:25:19 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20131018.184840.229751654.kambe@jprs.co.jp> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [10.1.30.36] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <93D3CE398589A346883CD87D1D25F272@corp.arin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Comments on draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06 X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:25:57 -0000 On 10/18/13 12:48 PM, "Naoki Kambe" wrote: >Hello, > >I found something like typo and have a minor comment on >draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06. The comment is about street >addresses of an entity. > >Excuse me if this topic is already discussed. > >--- >6.3. The Domain Object Class > ... > "ldhName" : "blah.example.com", > ... > "nameServers" : > [ > >Should "nameServers" be "nameservers"? I found other two same typos. The style is to use camel-casing, so it is suppose to be "nameServers". I'll look for the typos. > >--- >A.1. Registrants and Contacts >... >embedded entity that is both a registrant and admin contact: >... > "roles" : [ "registrant", "admin" ], >... > >Should these "admin" be "administrative" according to definition of >10.2.3.? I found another same typo. Yes, it should be administrative. Thanks. > >--- >Appendix C. Structured vs Unstructured Addresses > >I felt confusion between street address in Appendix C and street >addresses described in RFC 5733(EPP Contact Mapping). > >This I-D says here about these addresses: >... > 1. post office box - not applicable, empty string > > 2. extended address (e.g., apartment or suite number) - Suite 1234 > > 3. street address - 4321 Rue Somewhere > >OTOH, an example in 3.1.2. EPP Command in RFC 5733: >... > S: > S: 123 Example Dr. > S: Suite 100 >... > >In this werds I-D, addresses under street address are strictly >separated according to jCal specification. But in RFC 5733, they are >all put into . Also these orders seem opposite. > >Especially for an implementor who is not familiar with US addressing >like me, it would be better if something like a hint for conversion >between them is described around here. We can work on an example conversion between 5733 and jCard. Thanks for the idea. -andy From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Mon Oct 21 17:58:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F89D11E82EA for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.262 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.262 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.262, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_63=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t62LxNMzLyOM for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DCC11E80EA for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2620:0:230:2001::1001] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:2001::1001]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DA9B40220; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: <20131021203932.12363.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:58:29 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <906B9197-2D5E-41E7-9D31-F95D8BEFC44B@viagenie.ca> References: <20131021203932.12363.qmail@joyce.lan> To: "John Levine" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-autonomous-00.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 00:58:32 -0000 Le 2013-10-21 =C3=A0 16:39, "John Levine" a =C3=A9crit = : > In article <1DCFFB1A-C5F1-493A-A3EC-235957891D5D@viagenie.ca> you = write: >> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- >>=20 >> Hello, >> based on our discussion on bootstrap in Berlin and the ideas = suggested to use >> a label under the TLD for the names and the NRO file for IP addresses = and AS, I >> wrote this draft to capture the ideas. Hopefully, it is in line with = the >> suggestions. It is not full baked but enough to discuss I think. When = we will >> reach concensus on the method(DNS, IANA, this one), I'll update = appropriately. >>=20 >> comments welcome. >=20 > It looks basically OK -- most of the alternatives have been ruled out I'm not sure they are ruled out yet. I think each method has its pros = and cons. And I've heard support for some of the presented ones in = Berlin.=20 But at least, with this, we have the full (yet?) set on the table to = discuss. Marc. > so these are what's left. A and AAAA in the TLDs are no good unless > we want to invent a new reserved name and check to make sure that > nobody has used it yet. >=20 > For the numbers bootstraps, assuming the RIRs are agreeable, I'd like > to say that the much smaller IANA allocation list is an acceptable > substitute for the NRO list. I expect some people will find a 300,000 > line bootstrap file a bit rich for their setups. The differences > between the IANA and NRO files should all be known to the relevant > RIRs, who can issue redirects, no? >=20 > R's de Montr=EF=BF=BDal, > John From kambe@jprs.co.jp Mon Oct 21 21:10:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC34621F9DBE for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:10:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3gBuka+R5omc for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp [IPv6:2001:df0:8:17::10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A5211E811A for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp [172.18.8.32]) by off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r9M49x8N008774; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:09:59 +0900 X-AuditID: ac120820-b7f196d00000167f-34-5265fa97cfef Received: from localhost (off-cpu04.tyo.jprs.co.jp [172.18.4.14]) by off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 54.01.05759.79AF5625; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:09:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:09:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20131022.130915.98881369.kambe@jprs.co.jp> To: andy@arin.net From: Naoki Kambe In-Reply-To: References: <20131018.184840.229751654.kambe@jprs.co.jp> Organization: Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2.52 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrHIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsWyRoiFT3f6r9Qgg9WLRS12/l7PZDG/6ziL A5PHql3H2D2WLPnJFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJXx7/FapoIGtor5X1qYGxj3sXQxcnJICJhI HLx/hRHCFpO4cG89G4gtJHCSUeLcEyMQm0VAW+Lk/clgcV4Bc4k7f1+C9YoICEp8Oz2THcRm FhCW2PHiJViNsICLxIR/u8FsNgEViWX3NjOB2Jwgcx53Qs2PlJjRe5y1i5GDg19AX2JqUwrE CXYSTX/fsYCEeYHG/90hDDFdS6JnxmOoTfIS29/OYZ7AKDALoWoWkqpZSKoWMDKvYpTJT0vT LU7NSynOTTcw1CupzNfLKigq1ksG0ZsYwcHJobCDccYpg0OMAhyMSjy8xVapQUKsiWXFlbmH GCU5mJREea99AArxJeWnVGYkFmfEF5XmpBYfYpTgYFYS4d17BCjHm5JYWZValA+TkuZgURLn Pf7nTKCQQHpiSWp2ampBahFMVoaDQ0mCV+QnUKNgUWp6akVaZk4JQpqJgxNkOA/QcC6QGt7i gsTc4sx0iPwpRkkpcd5kkIQASCKjNA+u9xWjONALwrxqIFkeYKKB63oFNJAJaKAzI9jAkkSE lFQD49Up025ZSD0V7mxaKauX8yK8pEg8ZOM0i7pdGgoKM7k+fp+r1VArbnVtk+tkpqSViYdO Gl25svLshm97y5JLnsze53DmhVi17N3Nazj4evk65ZJPrnFclS45Y3oe+82IF6yyNeosKr6z 9xatlb3ZypX1/WDhAtsJTxJSq168/HVLjPdcIaePgRJLcUaioRZzUXEiAGtVw83xAgAA Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: Re: [weirds] Comments on draft-ietf-weirds-json-response-06 X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 04:10:08 -0000 Andy-san, Thank you for replying. From: Andy Newton Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 21:25:19 +0000 > >6.3. The Domain Object Class > > ... > > "ldhName" : "blah.example.com", > > ... > > "nameServers" : > > [ > > > >Should "nameServers" be "nameservers"? I found other two same typos. > > The style is to use camel-casing, so it is suppose to be "nameServers". > I'll look for the typos. Anyway the lower-case style seems to be used for nameservers here (members description in 6.3.): o nameservers -- an array of nameserver objects as defined by Section 6.2 Also a part of "nameserverSearchResults" is lower case. I think it would be better that we have a consistency. 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[199.15.87.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u66sm4874360yhd.24.2013.10.24.12.28.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <526974D0.9030607@afilias.info> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:28:16 -0400 From: Ernie Dainow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [weirds] synchronize search query and response specs and examples X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:28:35 -0000 Domain search is specified as /domains?name=XXXX Response is specified as "handle" : "1-XXXX", "ldhName" : "1.example.com", Since the search can be for either ldh or unicode names, "ldhName" may not be correct. Also, to avoid confusion with the query draft, the response example should not use "XXXX", or else spell out what the actual query was for this example. In general, if a search is made for parameter "searchfor", the result should include a field with "searchfor" so the client can determine which returned field corresponds to the search request. This will allow the client to choose how to manage and display the results, e.g. alphabetic order of the search request. So, the response for an entity search by name /entities?fn=Joe* should have a response like "handle" : "A12345", "fn" : "Joe User", -Ernie From edainow@afilias.info Thu Oct 24 14:26:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868C611E835C for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zXLSNtyDfOMP for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound.afilias.info (outbound.afilias.info [66.199.183.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D242411E8394 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ms5.on1.afilias-ops.info ([10.109.8.9] helo=smtp.afilias.info) by outbound.afilias.info with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VZSPw-00089T-3N for weirds@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:26:08 +0000 Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]) by smtp.afilias.info with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VZSPv-00083G-6N for weirds@ietf.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:26:08 +0000 Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id w8so1704331vbj.14 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=os0bngS4ZX7yW2+Lj/8AoZ1NWx9MBTZfycrSvTuFEK4=; b=iAN1G3pWLzD4ziMZ2psvEjap48s9d4ClAiWTodK8D97rmsdpCh2ukERSuTCILL3Fel BHxz6ic3rfYF2oh8yWwc8pNubOzk/qMLb/fjBWKDF15+tpy6ijg3KCAtOIWQmiwlb8r5 D6A9r3jh5PCbUrJfnlofL/PSeeWOQdA4QqlLGv5vuWBHMkwZtSWIuz8WNLB74S/b/waG IlaLAnf+7CiU97Lq+Snwnc8vjj+yyLMcrkJR55MRM7vajhtUY/8E5o2d6S7+TAxY0PSw WYTnI42/QYNXkRvbnxM33Hg6EytqrHLJrakx6HvEvZkBXMYtRXKmid1UANTWVfJSGcMB qarA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkf2QBjYRGJK1SPNZP0T4ui3GToh51CxMnfY68ZXl1PG/vgvRHIMvBlPDUXF/ozsSjI2bfJoygzkVsqUw7UbKXCrH+8oTciaGauQVboDXspHln6VZwJNMjW44E3atikhwODY4ls X-Received: by 10.58.146.71 with SMTP id ta7mr2481295veb.23.1382649962564; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.146.71 with SMTP id ta7mr2481290veb.23.1382649962452; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.68.31] (tor-gateway.afilias.info. [199.15.87.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jw6sm3174311veb.3.2013.10.24.14.26.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52699066.4060103@afilias.info> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:25:58 -0400 From: Ernie Dainow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:26:19 -0000 The search for domains and nameservers can be redirected, since they contain .tld and a redirector can determine the server for that domain. For entity search there is no such information. However that could be provided by changing the entity search query to something like /entities?fn=XXXX&tld=YYY A similar extension could also be used with entity lookup queries so that they could also be redirected. -Ernie From prvs=0003cc88e6=johnl@iecc.com Thu Oct 24 20:21:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E593111E8103 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.48 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.48 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.119, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LTMCYubmc0iI for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CC811E80F6 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 60383 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2013 03:21:36 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 25 Oct 2013 03:21:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=5269e3c0.xn--30v786c.k1310; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=EeRHKbMq2EI4jPvXTTJeMfUHE8v5bKKYmBf+iIp0MZI=; b=GTC5QA4ndzU9yONgx0s2oNqopTm1K+GhK4vrP6myyhpdPK14Nqm0RsPoFMPBaDG9BTlFeM7E3CPOKvFXt9nJd/1nTHadukY3tbSwfGFwGduPcQ/l3IQJ9zK83DCq4LgwyOEy+3Kun/3Xpr7mbMi8S2PDKABdS8JXOsIgfHGL8F9gVDR2LytRnVATFpbFq6RZ9lNHYxxfPW2wauNpaRy2c/ChKCae4lNC4cR0nZQ5miGoiZIl/UeB1+55VbpaqA6z DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=5269e3c0.xn--30v786c.k1310; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=EeRHKbMq2EI4jPvXTTJeMfUHE8v5bKKYmBf+iIp0MZI=; b=txrdd1za4coikTJjm3x8pLv4DBDgNF4ESkmqvwe5RhiaUfnUPe7OvZ0bxCh6eXZ7Ovitl4ot6w2WNi/uR9kjQ2W8bSBwqs11uwqLuU2s7v8igFeBzEmvldkzHE3AxCpIAfRQEluMB6Ux9rMuK4BIi4kHGrchFgKu+aBP6eFKOYD/HnrsZk4y9bcfKBXKCc3jnvmQwXBtM36YQRCjP42MOnDP/j3+ny/zQA+7EETuK6RgN9hL4rsYuhW7VFKbnu6G Date: 25 Oct 2013 03:21:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20131025032114.3095.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: weirds@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <52699066.4060103@afilias.info> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 03:21:54 -0000 In article <52699066.4060103@afilias.info> you write: >The search for domains and nameservers can be redirected, since they >contain .tld and a redirector can determine the server for that domain. >For entity search there is no such information. However that could be >provided by changing the entity search query to something like >/entities?fn=XXXX&tld=YYY I'm confused. Aren't entities specific to TLDs? The only redirects that would make sense would be to other servers that handle (perhaps part of) the same name space. 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[199.15.87.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g14sm12955137yhb.23.2013.10.25.10.45.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <526AAE53.9030808@afilias.info> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:45:55 -0400 From: Ernie Dainow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Levine , weirds@ietf.org References: <20131025032114.3095.qmail@joyce.lan> In-Reply-To: <20131025032114.3095.qmail@joyce.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:46:20 -0000 On 10/24/2013 11:21 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article <52699066.4060103@afilias.info> you write: >> The search for domains and nameservers can be redirected, since they >> contain .tld and a redirector can determine the server for that domain. >> For entity search there is no such information. However that could be >> provided by changing the entity search query to something like >> /entities?fn=XXXX&tld=YYY > I'm confused. Aren't entities specific to TLDs? The only redirects that > would make sense would be to other servers that handle (perhaps part of) > the same name space. > If a client sends a request for a domain to a redirector, it will get a response that most likely includes handles for one or more entities. To get the details for one of those entities, it can analyze the url from which it received the (redirected) response to extract the authoritative server, or it can send the entity request to the redirector. Note that the domain response should also have a link to the entity, which is direct and preferable to using redirection. But the above suggestion is a way to make redirection universal and applicable to all RDAP queries, since the current specs do not support redirection for entities. On the other hand, if we define a simple universal bootstrap scheme where clients can easily locate the server for any TLD, then perhaps we don't need redirection at all, for DNRs at least. -Ernie From prvs=0003224fa1=johnl@taugh.com Fri Oct 25 16:06:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9AB11E81DA for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:06:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.489 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.489 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ExsMV4eWy6Nd for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F2711E80F1 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27627 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2013 23:06:51 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 25 Oct 2013 23:06:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=526af98b.xn--hew.k1310; i=sendmail-bs@submit.iecc.com; bh=lc8kYMGOLKVzq3UMGvy1fpJm4f2QQa9qJ69jUsZHGQs=; b=pQZnu8z5yjIESsxSCq25Ze8VkWO0UczZW9003wpb3UMDPByk2iQ5/fb94GWQMo5O4kS1pyC67pd8O+Y3UvutbO2gN2qgzSMdwRJxRl2675mUHnkiacNNhhCN/or2v+EBx8JZGgyH1hzik/UiJ7BvhjvRyegle5xlWAeoPpThNQRrip3++demEDqpeCAqnifK3KCdx9dmip1UYklhBuiHYFpqPNK7hii0y/FlVBXb5qf1DBK5L7weijXtD77SIwWL DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=526af98b.xn--hew.k1310; olt=sendmail-bs@submit.iecc.com; bh=lc8kYMGOLKVzq3UMGvy1fpJm4f2QQa9qJ69jUsZHGQs=; b=Uo3OqA0b0hCxMRgYFnXQswE8C5ID0nR8qdRvLQQLtDvr/SPqJM5UrSYAte1rWMiWS+lEa0oYABQT9IiC7dfTtsWP2xjW3a7cMvktyAA2IjBLCp11paWZNQZhbc3it3V1sFP71MtENP5yVsjoddNMKesJvG7k7yUHQKFPqAsrI0lKkTxlSQIbIZvF4blA+RCrEHPPGnfJ4DtdzCGNtTzusAZPkzRxT7wAj+09N1Hjo/Lm8/ToBMJKNPpySrbxKTcc Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2013 23:06:50 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:06:49 -0400 (EDT) From: John R Levine To: Ernie Dainow In-Reply-To: <526AAE53.9030808@afilias.info> Message-ID: References: <20131025032114.3095.qmail@joyce.lan> <526AAE53.9030808@afilias.info> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: Re: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 23:06:58 -0000 > If a client sends a request for a domain to a redirector, it will get a > response that most likely includes handles for one or more entities. To > get the details for one of those entities, it can analyze the url from > which it received the (redirected) response to extract the authoritative > server, or it can send the entity request to the redirector. Hmmn. It would seem obvious to say to send the request back to the server that told you about the entity, but it's not clear how many clients make it easy to examine the redirect chain for a response. > On the other hand, if we define a simple universal bootstrap scheme where > clients can easily locate the server for any TLD, then perhaps we don't need > redirection at all, for DNRs at least. There are plenty of TLDs with internal structure below the TLD. A familiar one is .UK where the TLD and CO.UK are Nominet, but .AC.UK is Janet. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. 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Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfced1ef25de904e99e7331 Subject: Re: [weirds] Draft IETF 88 WEIRDS agenda posted X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 05:51:10 -0000 --047d7bfced1ef25de904e99e7331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A quick note about the agenda: We haven't heard any requests for changes or other objections. The agenda will be presumed final as-is if we get to the end of Monday and no issues have been raised. See you in Vancouver, -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Murray S. 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See you in Vancouver,

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--047d7bfced1ef25de904e99e7331-- From shollenbeck@verisign.com Mon Oct 28 05:00:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4DE11E818F for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 05:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hwi4iRijEGna for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 05:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og109.obsmtp.com (exprod6og109.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2328411E8250 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.verisign.com ([216.168.239.75]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob109.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUm5RqjvmBjd04VnXp+L7lICZ5sbRZ+j9@postini.com; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:59:59 PDT Received: from brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.206]) by osprey.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r9SBxcqw025701 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:59:38 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas02.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:59:37 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Ernie Dainow , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] search redirects Thread-Index: AQHO0P+3PnNe20SlNE+iZ+nJCWv+75oKB31w Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:59:36 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492C171F@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <52699066.4060103@afilias.info> In-Reply-To: <52699066.4060103@afilias.info> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:00:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Ernie Dainow > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:26 PM > To: weirds@ietf.org > Subject: [weirds] search redirects >=20 > The search for domains and nameservers can be redirected, since they > contain .tld and a redirector can determine the server for that domain. > For entity search there is no such information. However that could be > provided by changing the entity search query to something like > /entities?fn=3DXXXX&tld=3DYYY >=20 > A similar extension could also be used with entity lookup queries so > that they could also be redirected. I've got mixed feelings about this. I can see the utility, but it just does= n't feel right. The TLD is a natural part of domains and name servers. It's= *not* a natural part of an entity. Plus, how would this work for an RIR wh= ere there are entities, but no TLD? I'd like to stay away from special case= logic in the protocol if at all possible. Scott From andy@arin.net Mon Oct 28 09:52:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7B411E8286 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:52:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3hI6beuhzBT for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.arin.net (smtp2.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFBC21E80C8 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 58685213665; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (chaxch05.corp.arin.net [192.149.252.94]) by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EAB2135FF; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net (10.1.30.17) by CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (192.149.252.94) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:51:52 -0400 Received: from CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net ([169.254.1.243]) by CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net ([10.1.30.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 12:51:52 -0400 From: Andy Newton To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" , Ernie Dainow , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] search redirects Thread-Index: AQHO0P+z5ZHlB6oeEkmMSuobs3P9ZZoKS2YAgAAOl4A= Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:51:51 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492C171F@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [10.1.30.36] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <78ECDB29B96E974BBF4CE26E88A2CA53@corp.arin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:52:19 -0000 On 10/28/13 7:59 AM, "Hollenbeck, Scott" wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Ernie Dainow >> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:26 PM >> To: weirds@ietf.org >> Subject: [weirds] search redirects >>=20 >> The search for domains and nameservers can be redirected, since they >> contain .tld and a redirector can determine the server for that domain. >> For entity search there is no such information. However that could be >> provided by changing the entity search query to something like >> /entities?fn=3DXXXX&tld=3DYYY >>=20 >> A similar extension could also be used with entity lookup queries so >> that they could also be redirected. > >I've got mixed feelings about this. I can see the utility, but it just >doesn't feel right. The TLD is a natural part of domains and name >servers. It's *not* a natural part of an entity. Plus, how would this >work for an RIR where there are entities, but no TLD? I'd like to stay >away from special case logic in the protocol if at all possible. I agree with Scott about staying away from special use case logic in the protocol. I do think there is room for redirects of entity lookups when used with structured handles, but this is more of a convention issue rather than a protocol issue. But searches are different than lookups, in that they can return multiple results. What is a client suppose to do with multiple referrals? Chase each one down? That seems troubling. Additionally, these wouldn't be HTTP redirects but redirects at the JSON layer. -andy From prvs=0006ef84c5=johnl@iecc.com Mon Oct 28 11:47:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B5321E80AD for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:47:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.112, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id csUHYryrapPs for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E58921E80AF for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 99878 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2013 18:46:56 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 28 Oct 2013 18:46:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=526eb120.xn--3zv.k1310; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=LCZJNyaxhIgW/ibrdwTabniny1XnsrArhywDBdQVEn8=; b=aLvTCVdKQBzMXzTBdfwy+EfJjsXx7DE1dLKnm+fs3MOhbUof2lbWJHr8SsT7YET2+J0AY+CH43cQ9W6teq264pWvkQ4qXylZD+TACN2rkrLII/ag9geyOkTNa5cQC6zUsafLydvEoWsb8qEJaSIN0sXumC10X3kmGrKTq/TvOwfjaBPc4qZp7ZEH9LoOtLDAiu3ijzccyWZbFzk5ir8drIJBX320FXuCaj/kUZett2bEUZ7UhlKuaG2s2EwJxVo+ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=526eb120.xn--3zv.k1310; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=LCZJNyaxhIgW/ibrdwTabniny1XnsrArhywDBdQVEn8=; b=TnFszwy9CAe4bNbhggnbSDe+cG1cIR9WWTidZ3Xx0Gu6oBgpUFcOwNR3U+NmrWh6o81Ul+e8wk13BvOxa5TruYKuhFcAmFCzlTZTWls5/Wq3ZtId6XVC1hEOZd91Ym4Wto8n80PrGOiEiITpMgh5yJL+6gwEULikAdDAsVNoLOrUDQ02CSRau1FDy28ke4AKnSviN0loRUIhwL5/0t6BwlY1bBRaMVxu5OVD56Nu5nX7UuCLpUCA4Sb1ISi7S8Im Date: 28 Oct 2013 18:46:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20131028184634.8795.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: weirds@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] search redirects X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:47:02 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >I do think there is room for redirects of entity lookups when used with >structured handles, but this is more of a convention issue rather than a >protocol issue. ... Here's the scenario I see as most likely to cause trouble. I look up something like this: http://rdap-servers.net/domain/bull.hockey It redirects to the real server for .hockey and I get back a blob of JSON that includes something like this: { "handle" : "abc123", "roles" : [ "organization" ], ... } To look up the handle abc123, I need to go back to the .hockey server, but if I do this, I lose, because the redirector doesn't have the context to know where that handle came from: http://rdap-servers.net/entity/abc123 A possible band-aid would be to include in the JSON response the name of the server to handle related queries, which will usually be the one returning the response. This could also be useful for situtations like .AC.UK, where a subdomain is under different management from the TLD. Even if you know the TLD's server, you run into the same problem if the handles for a subdomain are separate. R's, John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlJusRwACgkQkEiFRdeC/kV5YgCgi1vCi3nJQKL5+Eg+SEnNh6ug GrgAoKW5aylgUnYeuHiFKo6QxCyPsSvt =HP05 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shollenbeck@verisign.com Tue Oct 29 04:46:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53FE11E8230 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 04:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.539 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.539 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dhbPQ6UsQdR3 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 04:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod6og119.obsmtp.com (exprod6og119.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF4F11E816B for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 04:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osprey.verisign.com ([216.168.239.75]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob119.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUm+f31nlekBjHwkXSSY0O9Zv3z3K5Ih4@postini.com; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 04:46:12 PDT Received: from brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.205]) by osprey.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id r9TBjYwS004543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:45:34 -0400 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:45:34 -0400 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Ernie Dainow , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] synchronize search query and response specs and examples Thread-Index: AQHO0O89MilBXi34WEyA5jYeUF2pu5oLlqvw Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:45:33 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F492C24A3@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <526974D0.9030607@afilias.info> In-Reply-To: <526974D0.9030607@afilias.info> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] synchronize search query and response specs and examples X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:46:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: weirds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Ernie Dainow > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 3:28 PM > To: weirds@ietf.org > Subject: [weirds] synchronize search query and response specs and > examples >=20 > Domain search is specified as /domains?name=3DXXXX > Response is specified as > "handle" : "1-XXXX", > "ldhName" : "1.example.com", > Since the search can be for either ldh or unicode names, "ldhName" may > not be correct. > Also, to avoid confusion with the query draft, the response example > should not use "XXXX", or else spell out what the actual query was for > this example. >=20 > In general, if a search is made for parameter "searchfor", the result > should include a field with "searchfor" so the client can determine > which returned field corresponds to the search request. This will allow > the client to choose how to manage and display the results, e.g. > alphabetic order of the search request. >=20 > So, the response for an entity search by name /entities?fn=3DJoe* > should have a response like > "handle" : "A12345", > "fn" : "Joe User", I'll talk to Andy about this. Consistency could indeed make things easier t= o understand. Scott