From superuser@gmail.com Fri Jan 10 11:39:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BF41AE072 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nUt6OSigrOhc for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x22a.google.com (mail-we0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82B01ADFB2 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u57so4345349wes.15 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=x/QkeuYa2aRguGdZl9hR+qarqREv2YyytsKHRAtosPA=; b=ubicOwE2tRcG8sSKUTmpll3/kgHd11HJkyebWVPPnANfuEMvZMph257t+a48RbimKX JbWYw22DUhkQC+iQTTJ4zHIhukXcA+ITm2ucD5JIAV695dWCrUfPU9tM/9N6JTzm7pt6 hU9IlyvKUSHtObJHWm928QccVz5FfEUBTWxyN7/77plfFqt0DcxYmuE4dTB0pj53bgYb 7Bvk1nt6uypr9jvQTv18ri4g7QNgEUofdwgLSzRmKyZY6Zst7bctALRJHiwmbyt1iMv0 QIzRWsa/Xs5kC0YBzf5cxL4xlpq+ZMD3JnLWM9HuZQ3JIX0aRgwzmDpcysVDOeQC20sf Rkfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.39.43 with SMTP id m11mr4302767wik.8.1389382771286; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.84.106 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20131207231754.82862.qmail@joyce.lan> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:39:31 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134cdd88a279604efa2e24f Subject: Re: [weirds] Call for adoption: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-ianaregistries X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 19:39:43 -0000 --001a1134cdd88a279604efa2e24f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This Call completed with no objections. Marc, please resubmit as draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap. -MSK On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: > Adopt, under the same comments mentioned by John Levin. > > .as > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John Levine wrote: > >>This note starts a two-week call for adoption of the above draft. If > there > >>are no sustained objections, this will be our document to satisfy the > >>bootstrapping milestone. > > > > I think we should adopt it, keeping in mind that adopting it doesn't > > necessarily mean that we will publish it in anything like its current > > form. > > > > We still have some big open questions, like whether name bootstrap > > only handles TLDs or is intended to handle arbitrary domain names. > > > > R's, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > weirds mailing list > > weirds@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > --001a1134cdd88a279604efa2e24f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This Call completed with no objections.=A0 Marc, plea= se resubmit as draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap.

-MSK



O= n Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Adopt, under the same comments mentioned by = John Levin.

.as

On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>This note starts a two-week call for adoption of the above draft. = =A0If there
>>are no sustained objections, this will be our document to satisfy t= he
>>bootstrapping milestone.
>
> I think we should adopt it, keeping in mind that adopting it doesn'= ;t
> necessarily mean that we will publish it in anything like its current<= br> > form.
>
> We still have some big open questions, like whether name bootstrap
> only handles TLDs or is intended to handle arbitrary domain names.
>
> R's,
> John
> _______________________________________________
> weirds mailing list
> weirds@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds
_______________________________________________
weirds mailing list
weirds@ietf.org
= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds

--001a1134cdd88a279604efa2e24f-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jan 13 07:01:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F3F1AE1D2; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:01:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CnxvFEhBLVYy; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D9D1AE1B0; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.90.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140113150137.7898.58660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:01:37 -0800 Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap-00.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:01:39 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data= Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : Finding the Authoritative Registration Data (RDAP= ) Service Author : Marc Blanchet Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap-00.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2014-01-13 Abstract: This document specifies a method to find which Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) server is authoritative to answer queries for a requested scope, such as domain names, IP addresses or Autonomous System numbers, using data available in IANA registries. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Mon Jan 13 07:18:01 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689B21AE1FB for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:18:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YIRjE20Ekfsf for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD611AE1EA for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2620::230:c000:c80c:885:4dd2:d8fa] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:c000:c80c:885:4dd2:d8fa]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A8B6E403E6 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:17:45 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: <20140113150137.7898.58660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:17:45 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F8EBFC1-A3E0-426D-AB6C-C5765F40DD86@viagenie.ca> References: <20140113150137.7898.58660.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap-00.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:18:01 -0000 Hello, happy new year (for those who follow the gregorian calendar) To ease the tracking, this is exactly the same version as the personal = draft (draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-ianaregistries-01) that was = accepted as wg document. I already have multiple changes in my local = copy based on the various comments, and will post a new version soon. Regards, Marc. Le 2014-01-13 =E0 10:01, internet-drafts@ietf.org a =E9crit : >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration = Data Service Working Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Finding the Authoritative Registration Data = (RDAP) Service > Author : Marc Blanchet > Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap-00.txt > Pages : 7 > Date : 2014-01-13 >=20 > Abstract: > This document specifies a method to find which Registration Data > Access Protocol (RDAP) server is authoritative to answer queries for > a requested scope, such as domain names, IP addresses or Autonomous > System numbers, using data available in IANA registries. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap-00 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From guillaume@leclanche.net Wed Jan 15 07:48:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC7E1AE364 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:48:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.378 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.378 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2JJYTw_VDOXR for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ve0-x234.google.com (mail-ve0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F191ADF93 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id jz11so473473veb.25 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leclanche.net; s=leclanche-net; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2RkpxoAo8KeRx+Q7d4Xxaoib8p7sIAYzFhy7D88yj0w=; b=aAR2ehf9VKn4F6lGMG+3Zb450GkfpCaI/XpeYTje5tbpGSZ3fQLWJG/1wDU4+DFqj+ tAsBHxL5TZ3NGp+2mnmrHUaTziAJb7JO1KRyqe07NxY3cJK3kTa9k8IaJcW2d8iIdAy5 roppkcBNdxOpgv38jgA15YH2RVaFVQ80r8dzw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2RkpxoAo8KeRx+Q7d4Xxaoib8p7sIAYzFhy7D88yj0w=; b=E9n8ZEEiQXMpZgwtZMGm8MrH+njZC82EhOPP6CAsp6ngmErg0yjq+SlAFqyv+fzF1X AP80Dom289hHI+2ZkwzEnnjeX6SGhvSFhIiyAKM+lzl1e/pQPmmmvpBOepnjHPzYMFXB UDn2Xrey4H4ZyqrdnxP7S2ZbGujzDRhZIX2x0T7LT1K8VRIOcGvUEZnK174DUeFp8qDn o79pha0SCkAICAE/EAsw8KC9GRBGdlGWPNLbCL1BmzCjXKPP8uSw4ZEza0vNhnHSxfkw dXB5yC/ckcMt7XqBr2+igvApn4hEWcp3ihM+3t6I8qG1sc5VQEv8VubCKafbDSRy8Q0H l7Fg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlpo7kNcOITciOMFMSMksIuB+/4SkrkvI4ln4TqRTeTNBfe4uW/8KsRRvHlLdElxTvXtBWw X-Received: by 10.58.235.129 with SMTP id um1mr2382808vec.17.1389800895446; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:48:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.32.71 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:47:35 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2620:0:230:c000:3e97:eff:fe95:5451] In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49306BBE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49306BBE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> From: Guillaume Leclanche Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:47:35 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Mark Nottingham \(mnot@mnot.net\)" , "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] rdap-query and .well-known X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:48:29 -0000 2013/12/18 Hollenbeck, Scott : > Since the discussion on search text seems to be winding down I wanted to = revisit what I think is the last bit of "are we sure?" text in rdap-query-0= 8: the well known URL text. I've cc'd Mark Nottingham in the hope of contin= uing to discussion that stopped with these messages from John and Simon: > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/weirds/current/msg03387.html > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/weirds/current/msg03390.html > > Mark, some additional guidance on the need for this approach would be hel= pful. It seems that Christmas stopped the public debate here; where does the working group stand regarding this issue ? In my opinion, there is no need for the .well-known prefix: the server reached over HTTP is not a Web server, but a RDAP server that speaks some HTTP. It will not deliver content to web browsers, but to RDAP clients. Hence there is no conflict with the "Web" namespace, and .well-known is not necessary. Guillaume From prvs=00858ba7e9=johnl@iecc.com Wed Jan 15 09:37:43 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112F31AE17F for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:37:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oth6VE3otVPp for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696D21AE175 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 55286 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2014 17:37:28 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2014 17:37:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=52d6c758.xn--yuvv84g.k1401; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=6qaHVZtVliIwGc27FDImf06+iY+jh2mZXM4ETIkH2is=; b=jT3iOToSlCo+y92cIOGLbqKmw44GbEfjXuufirLNZNXXFeqsCgpJPi05FRIZQuPvc+apBDzj6hx2Ug+Lewkfsg9CvYcWXxKQqDKCFYcPC0vapPQBNZCzQAm7eo2525tzF2gxvz7cVO6OTNQFISXyPgsF9OjRgfn5lHQzQuWiH1hUQTTzRAX0Nh/5JV9CoSVMvapF8DBHbN8xKTumvutQ6YS2Src2B8FsVePvtyyO2cKYSdQ+nEoWh4tpOKaUSDXw DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=52d6c758.xn--yuvv84g.k1401; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=6qaHVZtVliIwGc27FDImf06+iY+jh2mZXM4ETIkH2is=; b=hQagO7gzKgEQfAb5jEaZrmT+3//8jCGgYXWJPIgWzbMUmOhXJq0GOQw/qlK64sJhxkeDvQ+bCm7soDgug8bQ52dccxfsjm7NYdB5J75gPXHXQTE5V4yaaUPM1jlSjrqMvRikhP9QVFK6JETzfL5HucJrRiGPC1c3P6vmvsRsv8KtE46x5nPY7avZte1Lv4iQsGq6/uF0LzD/INR8WXvG96iNju76BDQH5KAdjAFHatOman5Q0q8hCy53JEzF8SWv Date: 15 Jan 2014 17:37:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20140115173706.51818.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: weirds@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] rdap-query and .well-known X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:37:43 -0000 >In my opinion, there is no need for the .well-known prefix: the server >reached over HTTP is not a Web server, but a RDAP server that speaks >some HTTP. It will not deliver content to web browsers, but to RDAP >clients. Hence there is no conflict with the "Web" namespace, and >.well-known is not necessary. I agree with you, but I expect that without .well-known we'll get blocking discusses from the IESG, and I don't feel strongly enough to have a huge fight. Also, this still depends on how the bootstrap discussions end up. If the bootstrap is a table of URIs, the prefix is irrelevant since the URIs will be whatever they are. If the bootstrap is just host names, e.g. from SRV in the TLD, only then does .well-known matter. R's, John From superuser@gmail.com Wed Jan 15 09:54:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7A31AE378 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qxowgVwOOF_y for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x22d.google.com (mail-we0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C031AE0DC for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id t60so2150563wes.32 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Bz4NsL7uYc/uufh5XbsIWqahXGmMFw5pZOlefa+z06o=; b=bITBnxkKwOV2yOU8vmUeDYBM+Gq1XjBtPQZCD7G0NtToNxk8Wp/4kfv/w2JDphW3fT +5/Nz0BEu8hyg1P2/J5245TY1VjEYvmxOjE4sZ9v1RiPaQBwQXsPY8La2uPM6pbx74Mm EbnBASuTWcPxJMs6Nhf0bFnuX9/goUpZnIAlyIXc9m4h5vht5uL2xym9lOOiz/Pa87T6 7a3DPKE9a6fUVpzrqYacrTjub2zX5N7OhuTkXnoM+akxww1dp9YJUqO255NFiBWHCLg8 1xUDnjJPlP5bf/6nw7wrZkDPLvYrFwOy93cbLuo1sv1kAF7uT8bpstEdhmjo0fVMQOxw 5rAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.173.163 with SMTP id bl3mr3857570wjc.10.1389808463723; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.84.106 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49306BBE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:54:23 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Guillaume Leclanche Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6220c9430504f005ff32 Cc: "Mark Nottingham \(mnot@mnot.net\)" , "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] rdap-query and .well-known X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:54:38 -0000 --089e013c6220c9430504f005ff32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No hat. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Guillaume Leclanche < guillaume@leclanche.net> wrote: > In my opinion, there is no need for the .well-known prefix: the server > reached over HTTP is not a Web server, but a RDAP server that speaks > some HTTP. It will not deliver content to web browsers, but to RDAP > clients. Hence there is no conflict with the "Web" namespace, and > .well-known is not necessary. > I don't agree. RDAP is a format for registration data, and the preferred transport is HTTP. We thus live in HTTP space, at least within the construct of the "using-http" draft, and the rules of operating in that space apply to us. If we want to register a new URI scheme (rdap://server/...), that's possibly a different story, but then we have a lot more work to do as that's not the path we're on right now. -MSK --089e013c6220c9430504f005ff32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No hat.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Guillaume = Leclanche <guillaume@leclanche.net> wrote:
In my opinion, th= ere is no need for the .well-known prefix: the server
reached over HTTP is not a Web server, but a RDAP server that speaks
some HTTP. It will not deliver content to web browsers, but to RDAP
clients. Hence there is no conflict with the "Web" namespace, and=
.well-known is not necessary.

I don't = agree.=A0 RDAP is a format for registration data, and the preferred transpo= rt is HTTP.=A0 We thus live in HTTP space, at least within the construct of= the "using-http" draft, and the rules of operating in that space= apply to us.

If we want to register a new URI scheme (rdap://server/...),= that's possibly a different story, but then we have a lot more work to= do as that's not the path we're on right now.

-MSK
--089e013c6220c9430504f005ff32-- From guillaume@leclanche.net Wed Jan 15 10:23:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6C91AE389 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:23:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.378 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.378 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id trjoZhpZJcI5 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x22c.google.com (mail-vc0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393561AE3C9 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id lf12so562827vcb.3 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:23:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=leclanche.net; s=leclanche-net; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=vhP3sbNulHEzwwVqwGkLwxlIucan3zApQY/PsvUE6GE=; b=QwTpLirmWNd4SH2KBwER5lfyn2jTZWikx+ggCozVz4882139aI0K5mM0BzfEOghyHk eaK9XLhaorHwx7TrWNgAeQkLpnRGG5ce2sRgxXYTEfS1HiCzoLdlbcHZtNPaLgQD5vK0 OlLiR/1vN1tV+RMB3WpD5gsHIbIYhGSvWY9oc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=vhP3sbNulHEzwwVqwGkLwxlIucan3zApQY/PsvUE6GE=; b=AAn36ZJpi+qIY7CSeSfuLTcBU+2TDlMgzIRJRNQIPNlc8SLki7pc5A6MexAH+i8/nG XmDm3BmSufkkNt45qocQXdP2yHI+Xsov6XFRKM4Zb9EkxIUQsKGWzaiU5qNTKJOWRQbc jfpHD3NlatuLQcNEi5RwkUOnid/VXoSC3CR5gRaZ68MYP1jWWdbKyYu6ZBhBHuMAwYJ4 IgeKC4USdJm3ZVgSTKb3nd8IPhEqQZS0zjMMnWzvSlcvtDIA/tk8cktheelB2E97QoMv xiBPlkXyYKfnE56mN6plWYJBQoYcjhJftv/LFD+ZfY8QTED8Y2Y8h99t8vCvVDE7uPpX dfSg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl4AOnpmNAg6y5alVE1OE2H71FRAMs54nDaoL+D930o+YztN5bxW2ZCxqG4U0akHjbrcEtd X-Received: by 10.220.186.68 with SMTP id cr4mr62480vcb.55.1389810206197; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:23:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.32.71 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:22:46 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2620:0:230:c000:81b0:a92f:8bff:4575] In-Reply-To: References: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F49306BBE@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> From: Guillaume Leclanche Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:22:46 -0500 Message-ID: To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "Mark Nottingham \(mnot@mnot.net\)" , "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] rdap-query and .well-known X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:23:41 -0000 2014/1/15 Murray S. Kucherawy : > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Guillaume Leclanche > wrote: >> >> In my opinion, there is no need for the .well-known prefix: the server >> reached over HTTP is not a Web server, but a RDAP server that speaks >> some HTTP. It will not deliver content to web browsers, but to RDAP >> clients. Hence there is no conflict with the "Web" namespace, and >> .well-known is not necessary. > > > I don't agree. RDAP is a format for registration data, and the preferred > transport is HTTP. We thus live in HTTP space, at least within the > construct of the "using-http" draft, and the rules of operating in that > space apply to us. We do: the .well-known is creating a namespace for server metadata. The information queried and returned to and from the server using rdap-query draft syntax is not server metadata. In my understanding, the .well-known could be used if we wanted to define, for example, how to get the rdap server version, configuration, or the list of features available. Actually it could maybe be used for the help path. Guillaume From superuser@gmail.com Fri Jan 17 11:03:09 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4241AE146 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:03:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4jWX2-YUHf_0 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F371AE143 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y10so4981282wgg.32 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DnQH/Hohs5Vv5ePbghyPlXadpkE3Y4fj8+VhHXykLC0=; b=JGY40mpcPybDabJnGvt/03EX6AAia7s9h6S3E6vIpNydK2UhzVrQRd47Weu+wXH8+F XuNMSXo9+B7o9mzpss2D4OsGtkj+agoz8elV9ohIkX1VfUeJhftET7VjdsWxpHvxLBUg S5Uwpgdnr0YtOQpzP7Trh/OVyt3pBNdYmJ9QGIRlGBOPpltnmLWgMn9CL/5JzFKh9od6 d2HINOk1rAd2tyfB+cATK80qF3s77FYlnI1hxAKxJJtAeMEzMFipNu4f9ye3K8OC1W1H QZFmxOTGZ26XEcrkbDt+FEaTlpGUUiYzyzI9x+ds9uTSjiGu3Wf6s314/fDuvRO3qUqa VndA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.85.138 with SMTP id h10mr4073978wiz.5.1389985374845; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.84.106 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:02:54 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3068463782c0eb04f02f3025 Subject: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:03:09 -0000 --20cf3068463782c0eb04f02f3025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues, Despite the very low activity since IETF 88, I'm anticipating this will swing upward soon or at least as we approach the meeting, as usual. Accordingly, I've requested another two-hour session with the same conflicts as we had for Vancouver. Please propose agenda items for London. The draft agenda is due to the Secretariat on 2/17. Thanks, -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --20cf3068463782c0eb04f02f3025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Colleagues,

Despite the very low activity sinc= e IETF 88, I'm anticipating this will swing upward soon or at least as = we approach the meeting, as usual.=A0 Accordingly, I've requested anoth= er two-hour session with the same conflicts as we had for Vancouver.

Please propose agenda items for London.=A0 The draft agenda is du= e to the Secretariat on 2/17.

Thanks,
-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair
--20cf3068463782c0eb04f02f3025-- From shollenbeck@verisign.com Fri Jan 17 11:27:49 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB1C1A1F00 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:27:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NxqBXsAbsZ8c for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod6og127.obsmtp.com (exprod6og127.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D5C1A1F63 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:27:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob127.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUtmEJdDqpuY1KEHUlcDNF8/eiiI1TeeL@postini.com; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:27:34 PST Received: from BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexchm01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.255]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id s0HJRXmO012290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:27:33 -0500 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by BRN1WNEXCHM01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:27:33 -0500 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling Thread-Index: AQHPE7bHcgKKC5CT70yz6T75ZCO2apqJTLyg Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:27:32 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4931D290@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4931D290BRN1WNEXMBX01vc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:27:49 -0000 --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4931D290BRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We're going to need to make some progress on bootstrapping and .well-known.= I don't want to lead that discussion, but I do want it to happen. Scott From: weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucher= awy Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:03 PM To: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling Colleagues, Despite the very low activity since IETF 88, I'm anticipating this will swi= ng upward soon or at least as we approach the meeting, as usual. According= ly, I've requested another two-hour session with the same conflicts as we h= ad for Vancouver. Please propose agenda items for London. The draft agenda is due to the Sec= retariat on 2/17. Thanks, -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4931D290BRN1WNEXMBX01vc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We’re going to need to make some pro= gress on bootstrapping and .well-known. I don’t want to lead that dis= cussion, but I do want it to happen.

 

Scott

 

From: weirds [= mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:03 PM
To: weirds@ietf.org
Subject: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling

 

Colleagues,

Despite the very low activity since IETF 88, I'm anticipating this will swi= ng upward soon or at least as we approach the meeting, as usual.  Acco= rdingly, I've requested another two-hour session with the same conflicts as= we had for Vancouver.

Please propose agenda items for London.  The dr= aft agenda is due to the Secretariat on 2/17.

Thanks,
-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair

--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4931D290BRN1WNEXMBX01vc_-- From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Fri Jan 17 11:41:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEAA1AE11D for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:41:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OFrgIpMACNVM for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4065D1AE0DB for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:41:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2620:0:230:2002::1001] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:2002::1001]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 78C324040B; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:40:56 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:40:57 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1221A879-36F0-4041-A47F-FACF5E11DFD4@viagenie.ca> References: To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:41:12 -0000 Le 2014-01-17 =E0 14:02, Murray S. Kucherawy a = =E9crit : > Colleagues, >=20 > Despite the very low activity since IETF 88, I'm anticipating this = will swing upward soon or at least as we approach the meeting, as usual. = Accordingly, I've requested another two-hour session with the same = conflicts as we had for Vancouver. >=20 > Please propose agenda items for London. The draft agenda is due to = the Secretariat on 2/17. - bootstrap, draft-ietf-weirds-bootstrap, Marc Blanchet. 20 min? Marc. >=20 > Thanks, > -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Fri Jan 17 11:47:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFECE1ADF78 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:47:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vqXnLA2kdtbK for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:47:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC6C1A1F4E for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:47:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (ringo.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:c000:3e97:eff:fe0b:dd8a]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 113994040B for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:47:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <52D988D0.7020308@viagenie.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:47:28 -0500 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: weirds@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] IETF 89 scheduling X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:47:42 -0000 Le 2014-01-17 14:02, Murray S. Kucherawy a écrit : > Please propose agenda items for London. 15 minutes for discussion of interop results. Thanks, Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Jan 21 07:42:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2B41A02DB; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:42:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 68TqwTAy5Ytp; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410BD1A0341; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:42:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.90.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140121154220.15635.49748.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 07:42:20 -0800 Cc: weirds@ietf.org Subject: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:42:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data= Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Object Inventor= y Analysis Authors : Linlin Zhou Ning Kong Sean Shen Arturo Servin Steve Sheng Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2014-01-19 Abstract: WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) were collected and analyzed. This document describes the statistical analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. The purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) responses. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From superuser@gmail.com Tue Jan 21 11:57:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A23E1A0257 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id psf7QqfPhh37 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447441A0251 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m15so8328304wgh.2 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ekIHY3qiIEjpPjkFCSU8BzuT8mmzpb9rYzwa/Ft2eJY=; b=kM6UiQ58KlwG5eNzF9auKZw+zE0E6PnRkiRTNEL5/B5uLSMNxGFbNYSK6YvWZSqd9N xQTIiCrJFlh5TwJh/42tO+xkdNnDeO6u6RLEWt3xT9eqkyd6C4F1ae1381o5XiyuXx42 jxznWrMt1WeCRnRdvdGI31+xm/7+YWGuEJ073XbrtRBr+iBMHdybwBB95r5XA2v8oRAs ymia1otJJD7BayTJvnyjZJaX7GCPDg75uku17JZdtPh82OgTtoyVWb5IXmAw5dzfzE6C 2fbGeH4xtsGgkH2TFYBBSyKDsDEofq8w9qwg4HsWneeIQSWVkXXYJxxhlCjJxFEjF4Zy HW3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.221.38 with SMTP id qb6mr16026585wic.26.1390334246622; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.98.41 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140121154220.15635.49748.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20140121154220.15635.49748.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:57:26 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134d2dae39c2004f0806aa9 Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 19:57:29 -0000 --001a1134d2dae39c2004f0806aa9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Authors, Is this ready for Working Group Last Call? -MSK On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration > Data Service Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Object > Inventory Analysis > Authors : Linlin Zhou > Ning Kong > Sean Shen > Arturo Servin > Steve Sheng > Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt > Pages : 24 > Date : 2014-01-19 > > Abstract: > WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regional > Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) were > collected and analyzed. This document describes the statistical > analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. The > purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to > facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registration Data > Access Protocol (RDAP) responses. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > --001a1134d2dae39c2004f0806aa9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Authors,

Is this ready for Working = Group Last Call?

-MSK

=
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, <= internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
=A0This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Da= ta Service Working Group of the IETF.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Registration Data Access Protoc= ol Object Inventory Analysis
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Authors =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : Linlin Zhou
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Ning Kong
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Sean Shen
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Arturo Servin
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Steve Sheng
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Filename =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventor= y-02.txt
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Pages =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 : 24
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Date =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: 2014-01-19

Abstract:
=A0 =A0WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regional
=A0 =A0Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) were =A0 =A0collected and analyzed. =A0This document describes the statistical =A0 =A0analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. =A0The =A0 =A0purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to
=A0 =A0facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registration Data=
=A0 =A0Access Protocol (RDAP) responses.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-= object-inventory/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inv= entory-02

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-w= eirds-object-inventory-02


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp= .ietf.org/internet-drafts/

_______________________________________________
weirds mailing list
weirds@ietf.org
= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds

--001a1134d2dae39c2004f0806aa9-- From zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn Tue Jan 21 22:13:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F911A0237 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:13:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.434 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.434 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vunogj1N8T0N for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnnic.cn (smtp.cnnic.cn [218.241.118.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B470C1A01AA for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:13:00 -0800 (PST) X-EYOUMAIL-SMTPAUTH: zhoulinlin@cnnic.cn Received: from unknown127.0.0.1 (HELO lenovo95e6383c) (127.0.0.1) by 127.0.0.1 with SMTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:12:57 +0800 From: "Linlin Zhou" To: "'Murray S. Kucherawy'" , References: <20140121154220.15635.49748.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:12:57 +0800 Message-ID: <01a901cf1738$ff138330$fd3a8990$@cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AA_01CF177C.0D36C330" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac8W4wcgvaBo3NlrTJ6P4yFX4qkFYgAVcA3g Content-Language: zh-cn Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 06:13:03 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01CF177C.0D36C330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it is ready. Others opinion? Regards, Linlin From: weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:57 AM To: weirds@ietf.org Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt Authors, Is this ready for Working Group Last Call? -MSK On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registration Data Service Working Group of the IETF. Title : Registration Data Access Protocol Object Inventory Analysis Authors : Linlin Zhou Ning Kong Sean Shen Arturo Servin Steve Sheng Filename : draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2014-01-19 Abstract: WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) were collected and analyzed. This document describes the statistical analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. The purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP) responses. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ weirds mailing list weirds@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01CF177C.0D36C330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think it = is ready. Others opinion?

 =

Regards,

Linlin=

 =

From:= weirds = [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. = Kucherawy
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:57 = AM
To: weirds@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D = Action: = draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt

 

Authors,

Is this ready for = Working Group Last Call?

-MSK

 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> = wrote:


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the = Web Extensible Internet Registration Data Service Working Group of the = IETF.

        Title       =     : Registration Data Access Protocol Object Inventory = Analysis
        Authors       =   : Linlin Zhou
              =             Ning Kong
    =                     =   Sean Shen
              =             Arturo Servin
    =                     =   Steve Sheng
        Filename     =    : draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt
  =       Pages           : = 24
        Date         =    : 2014-01-19

Abstract:
   WHOIS output = objects from registries (including both Regional
  =  Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)) = were
   collected and analyzed.  This document = describes the statistical
   analysis process and result of = existing WHOIS information.  The
   purpose of this = document is to build an object inventory to
   facilitate = discussions of data objects included in Registration Data
  =  Access Protocol (RDAP) responses.


The IETF datatracker = status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-obje= ct-inventory/

There's also a htmlized version available = at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inv= entory-02

A diff from the previous version is available = at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-weirds-ob= ject-inventory-02


Please note that it may take a couple = of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and = diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also = available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

________= _______________________________________
weirds mailing list
weirds@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds

 

------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01CF177C.0D36C330-- From ietfing@gmail.com Thu Jan 23 21:34:37 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01311A00FB for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:34:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AyN2kiyEyFST for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3461A0094 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id lf10so2821380pab.32 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:34:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type; bh=JIwMotbhg1gWdv5aPIG7INUNbdSi/sBpkJJLxvF662o=; b=v7A4d5PZRqvyWOgn05vseM3rMXCUrvsu6lmydPj4Dyk7U61vqtRUIMz+Nf1C3KhKdF wF997ub5mqzeNR6nFu0+4zjeGNja9x22JVJg+hNsHPUZhF+07j/4h5GmjnXz5R+NrbSS Q4c0zcDx8klfUx/SWP+nKW6GbnfN8TOkoolgfzXAzOqNqIteDjbvd3lhCL9rd/+dkp7S y100lc1azGNvXaVUju9QtjYcCIPSE9xP0Lo0k2SdKFD/kMl0H6c5T0cdZW6GTCBbMh43 TZrse+cLNYOoGgXMSPj9au6fh1V8aYXB6Y8C9ldrd4/WlkOZEdp1Rg8ee9PYiCS+FatK lrbg== X-Received: by 10.66.227.200 with SMTP id sc8mr12297281pac.35.1390541675074; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from Ning.local ([218.241.103.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yi8sm71192026pab.16.2014.01.23.21.34.32 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:34:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:34:30 +0800 From: Ning Kong To: "=?utf-8?Q?weirds=40ietf.org?=" , "Murray S. Kucherawy" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <20140121154220.15635.49748.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Airmail Beta (226) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="52e1fb66_6ceaf087_139" Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 05:34:38 -0000 --52e1fb66_6ceaf087_139 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yes, I think so. Cheers, Ning =E5=BC=80=E5=90=AF 2014=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8822=E6=97=A5 at =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=88= 3:57:33, Murray S. Kucherawy (superuser=40gmail.com) =E5=86=99: Authors, Is this ready for Working Group Last Call=3F -MSK On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:42 AM, wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. =C2=A0This draft is a work item of the Web Extensible Internet Registrati= on Data Service Working Group of the IET=46. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Re= gistration Data Access Protocol Object Inventory Analysis =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Linlin = Zhou =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ning Kong =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sean Shen =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Arturo Servin =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Steve Sheng =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =46ilename =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: draft= -ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02.txt =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : 24= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= : 2014-01-19 Abstract: =C2=A0 =C2=A0WHOIS output objects from registries (including both Regiona= l =C2=A0 =C2=A0Internet Registries (RIRs) and Domain Name Registries (DNRs)= ) were =C2=A0 =C2=A0collected and analyzed. =C2=A0This document describes the st= atistical =C2=A0 =C2=A0analysis process and result of existing WHOIS information. =C2= =A0The =C2=A0 =C2=A0purpose of this document is to build an object inventory to =C2=A0 =C2=A0facilitate discussions of data objects included in Registrat= ion Data =C2=A0 =C2=A0Access Protocol (RDAP) responses. The IET=46 datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff=3Furl2=3Ddraft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory-0= 2 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous =46TP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F weirds mailing list weirds=40ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =20 weirds mailing list =20 weirds=40ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds =20 --52e1fb66_6ceaf087_139 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

rdap-query is done pending whatever change= s are necessary as a result of bootstrap/.well-known discussion.=

 

Scott

 

From: weirds [= mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:37 PM
To: weirds@ietf.org
Subject: [weirds] Document status

 

Colleagues,

All of our documents except the bootstrapping one have milestones that expi= re after tomorrow.  The mailing list has been dead quiet this month.

Authors, are you bloc= ked?  Do you need help getting reviews, comments, feedback, implementa= tion tests, expert reviews, something else?

-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair

--_000_831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4933B8D3BRN1WNEXMBX01vc_-- From andy@arin.net Thu Jan 30 10:49:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F131A0072 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:49:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RANDOM_SURE=0.499, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pzBVHJQViS5Q for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.arin.net (smtp2.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC261A0435 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 1D7F52136F3; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (chaxch05.corp.arin.net [192.149.252.94]) by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9DE2136F3; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net (10.1.30.17) by CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (192.149.252.94) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0500 Received: from CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net ([169.254.1.174]) by CHAXCH03.corp.arin.net ([10.1.30.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0500 From: Andy Newton To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Document status Thread-Index: AQHPHepKkYTS7lTkBkeFfFfxor9IQJqdnAYA Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:48:58 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [10.1.30.36] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CF10082B2C119andyarinnet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Document status X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:49:05 -0000 --_000_CF10082B2C119andyarinnet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To my knowledge, there are no major changes needed json-response. There are= some examples that need to be tweaked. The using-http draft is simply waiting for resubmittal, I believe. -andy From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" > Date: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:37 PM To: "weirds@ietf.org" > Subject: [weirds] Document status Colleagues, All of our documents except the bootstrapping one have milestones that expi= re after tomorrow. The mailing list has been dead quiet this month. Authors, are you blocked? Do you need help getting reviews, comments, feed= back, implementation tests, expert reviews, something else? -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --_000_CF10082B2C119andyarinnet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To my knowledge, there are no major changes needed json-response. Ther= e are some examples that need to be tweaked.

The using-http draft is simply waiting for resubmittal, I believe.

-andy

From: "Murray S. Kucherawy&quo= t; <superuser@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:= 37 PM
To: "weirds@ietf.org" <= weirds@ietf.org>
Subject: [weirds] Document status

Colleagues,

All of our documents except the bootstrapping one have milestones that expi= re after tomorrow.  The mailing list has been dead quiet this month.
Authors, are you blocked?  Do you need help getting reviews, comments,= feedback, implementation tests, expert reviews, something else?

-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair


--_000_CF10082B2C119andyarinnet_-- From superuser@gmail.com Thu Jan 30 11:15:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8AC1A04DD for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0odo19c4tgQX for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x234.google.com (mail-wg0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AE01A04DF for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id b13so6993467wgh.31 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VcfgZaF7LwzqSAsh12zrt2hExQUDuKzoI46s0QkHAEU=; b=QsSNuU3uzhtSaLTgOmfQLlsZwao0iTsiVpYpNG9aHOsx70bq879m2IwFxqtJggQhkm DnPJOV3El0Cce2UJyXV28JllM7EEdWr3XRNdvJc7W1Uc9DlL5iPW2A5OPa49vI43sYmx 8LjjiwIsffhJ+XOscjorGTWfeIB+2cgFSS74Yemv7RKmXS6m5T3lyFwLbHIma+h3I40p NkV7XGHveF4dPOHsagRJZwTzx+rS24+TIgyEwQPGyfKULIQEEAqTNhfoHU60I11t8Bo7 JWhrRhxKpqQthft7m3oGqtYtBBAotre6h0fojXhv645/djLaKD5MRG4S/Fg/deD7h92f A4lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.35.36 with SMTP id e4mr10695573wij.8.1391109320258; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.98.41 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:15:20 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f64352ee0ba9104f134e052 Subject: [weirds] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 19:15:25 -0000 --e89a8f64352ee0ba9104f134e052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues, This message initiates an extended Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-weirds-object-inventory, ending Friday, March 14, 2014. Please submit substantive comments of support or other review feedback to weirds@ietf.org (preferably on this thread), or privately to the author or to weirds-chairs@tools.ietf.org, prior to that date. We will need to see enough of these to be able to judge rough consensus of the working group before it can be sent to our Area Director to start the formal publication process. Thank you, -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --e89a8f64352ee0ba9104f134e052 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Colleagues,

This message initiates a= n extended Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf= -weirds-object-inventory, ending Friday, March 14, 2014.=A0 Please submit s= ubstantive comments of support or other review feedback to weirds@ietf.org (preferably on this thread), or priv= ately to the author or to w= eirds-chairs@tools.ietf.org, prior to that date.=A0 We will need to see enough of these to be able to= =20 judge rough consensus of the working group before it can be sent to our=20 Area Director to start the formal publication process.

Thank y= ou,

-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair
--e89a8f64352ee0ba9104f134e052-- From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Thu Jan 30 11:48:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9401A0450 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:48:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.436 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.436 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NK9GFb1eGHl2 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E561A044E for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2620:0:230:2002::1001] (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:2002::1001]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57C30403AF; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:48:45 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:48:42 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4D4AE202-B309-4921-AEF3-D38E41DF38C4@viagenie.ca> References: To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Cc: "weirds@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [weirds] Document status X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 19:48:51 -0000 Le 2014-01-30 =E0 13:37, Murray S. Kucherawy a = =E9crit : > Colleagues, >=20 > All of our documents except the bootstrapping one have milestones that = expire after tomorrow.=20 I have another rev to do on bootstrap. Already some fixes in my local = copy. Shall publish soon. > The mailing list has been dead quiet this month. If I look in the past, bootstrap always generated some mails... ;-) = Let's see what happens... > Authors, are you blocked?=20 no. > Do you need help getting reviews, comments, feedback, implementation = tests, expert reviews, something else? to me, the next rev of bootstrap shall be almost ready for WGLC. Will = see what the comments will be. Marc. >=20 > -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair > _______________________________________________ > weirds mailing list > weirds@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds From superuser@gmail.com Thu Jan 30 11:58:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A5C1A0450 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4S_vTisyjJoN for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com (mail-wg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EA71A044E for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id x13so7085404wgg.33 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rZrOx3M1xTbyIKOIMFAFCFwy6s8HzAeS/JI1UaO2f3g=; b=mukAfxTtRF6ByN2WDrkVA1Cu40uuUqVic87DXTHUFc9ImVOaGpaqlyJ+Zz8gHX4H6m GrlWo1dObybNEOYtEkwPQLwpS0m/94rmnzz5JpUFzM+OHCOgGzOMltOyQrHTAk6GCzrQ IHtCHGpPDMbG7qBKblUIq85fL13mDuTGSgj5oeQvTmNydajRo64tU2K57xdfFMtiurfj K5xu7OwyFsCjxaEDaErWjXL7TkqRw6qSB4eN11+Ilw38hRihdOk1NLCPEu7nUKhL6SJi CTQdZTK7HGeyydgtPGQpyTDJuL2D5TRtQ6feOTGmA311lOOJNrsWgBIRz84lSobD1uz0 zjLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.77.7 with SMTP id o7mr7364325wjw.35.1391111894683; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.98.41 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:58:14 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "weirds@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfd05fc53561a04f1357add Subject: [weirds] Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-weirds-json-response X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 19:58:20 -0000 --047d7bfd05fc53561a04f1357add Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues, This message initiates an extended Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-weirds-json-response, ending Friday, March 14, 2014. Please submit substantive comments of support or other review feedback to weirds@ietf.org (preferably on this thread), or privately to the author or to weirds-chairs@tools.ietf.org, prior to that date. We will need to see enough of these to be able to judge rough consensus of the working group before it can be sent to our Area Director to start the formal publication process. Thank you, -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair --047d7bfd05fc53561a04f1357add Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Colleagues,

This message initiates a= n extended Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf= -weirds-json-response, ending Friday, March 14, 2014.=A0 Please submit subs= tantive comments of support or other review feedback to weirds@ietf.org (preferably on this t= hread), or privately to the author or to weirds-chairs@tools.ietf.org, prior to that date.=A0 We will need to see enough of these to be able to= =20 judge rough consensus of the working group before it can be sent to our=20 Area Director to start the formal publication process.

Thank y= ou,

-MSK, WEIRDS co-chair
--047d7bfd05fc53561a04f1357add-- From kambe@jprs.co.jp Thu Jan 30 21:43:21 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013541A0554 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:43:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.073 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.073 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W8sumSGGAWhn for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp [IPv6:2001:df0:8:17::10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623701A0553 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 21:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp [172.18.8.32]) by off-send01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id s0V5hESh017300 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:43:15 +0900 X-AuditID: ac120820-b7f196d00000167f-40-52eb37f305fe Received: from localhost (off-cpu04.tyo.jprs.co.jp [172.18.4.14]) by off-sendsmg01.tyo.jprs.co.jp (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 04.2B.05759.3F73BE25; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:43:15 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:40:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20140131.144009.59661735.kambe@jprs.co.jp> To: weirds@ietf.org From: Naoki Kambe Organization: Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2.52 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrIIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsWyRoiFT/ez+esgg+4PXBbzu46zODB6LFny kymAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoErY82bP8wFvewV3dPmMzcw7mPtYuTkkBAwkfjSdQvKFpO4cG89 WxcjF4eQwElGiSUTn7ODJFgEtCX27oJo4BUwl1jyspcNxBYREJZY/PIdC4gtLGAlce/2FbB6 NgEViWX3NjN1MXJw8AvoS0xtSoGYbyfR9BeknANojKDE3x3CIGFmAS2JnhmP2SFseYntb+cw T2DknYVQNQtJ1SwkVQsYmVcxyuSnpekWp+alFOemGxjqlVTm62UVFBXrJYPoTYzgEOJQ2ME4 45TBIUYBDkYlHl6ugldBQqyJZcWVuYcYJTmYlER53dVfBwnxJeWnVGYkFmfEF5XmpBYfYpTg YFYS4X3fD1TOm5JYWZValA+TkuZgURLnPf7nTKCQQHpiSWp2ampBahFMVoaDQ0mC94oZ0FDB otT01Iq0zJwShDQTByfIcB6g4atAaniLCxJzizPTIfKnGCWlxHkXgCQEQBIZpXlwva8YxYFe EOZtBMnyANMBXNcroIFMQAO1ykGuLS5JREhJNTBuLo3UV39zKz3rsjVPYXSRfIbhveYa/mUl Xr0qMUfdpWZuYFL77NRhYn76Sod6aliYb9k6z5/2T/1VZc/45pgEKtaYJoQ1Nec+PqywOTCh LMKfo/HjwciEECH3tvVSTi2h1reFLTqWCCTzcq+fa253pUr6s5wh36uJPwvupz9LXcsqt7Bd iaU4I9FQi7moOBEAymnzZ8QCAAA= Subject: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:43:21 -0000 Dear WG, Some existing whois servers might be able to accept a query for nameserver by an IP address. And new gTLD registries are required to do so according to the spec 4 of the new registry agreement: 1.7.1 Query format: whois "NS1.EXAMPLE.TLD", whois "nameserver (nameserver name)", or whois "nameserver (IP Address)" <---- * So, on an RDAP server, should this be implemented? If yes, how should it be looked up? For example, if nameserver data to be looked up is assigned to 192.0.2.1, which way should be used? http://example.com/.well-known/rdap/ip/192.0.2.1 or http://example.com/.well-known/rdap/nameserver/192.0.2.1 As long as I roughly read the existing I-Ds about query and response on RDAP, I couldn't find this answer. If this topic was already discussed on this list, sorry for the duplication. Regards, Naoki Kambe From shollenbeck@verisign.com Fri Jan 31 05:06:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B761A1F1B for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:06:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CFIVJVmm36K5 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod6og121.obsmtp.com (exprod6og121.obsmtp.com [64.18.1.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8E11A1F01 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from peregrine.verisign.com ([216.168.239.74]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob121.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUuuf03Q/e/s13fIOq77L/UhSzUg/1WRb@postini.com; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:06:29 PST Received: from brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.173.152.205]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id s0VD6RED021292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:06:27 -0500 Received: from BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) by brn1wnexcas01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:06:26 -0500 From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" To: Naoki Kambe , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address Thread-Index: AQHPHkda+NJyATz2I0Gvqq07a9IVOpqeyptA Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:06:26 +0000 Message-ID: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4933C1CC@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <20140131.144009.59661735.kambe@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20140131.144009.59661735.kambe@jprs.co.jp> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.173.152.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:06:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: weirds [mailto:weirds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Naoki Kambe > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:40 AM > To: weirds@ietf.org > Subject: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address >=20 > Dear WG, >=20 > Some existing whois servers might be able to accept a query for > nameserver by an IP address. And new gTLD registries are required to > do so according to the spec 4 of the new registry agreement: >=20 > 1.7.1 Query format: > whois "NS1.EXAMPLE.TLD", > whois "nameserver (nameserver name)", or > whois "nameserver (IP Address)" <---- * >=20 > So, on an RDAP server, should this be implemented? If yes, how should > it be looked up? For example, if nameserver data to be looked up is > assigned to 192.0.2.1, which way should be used? >=20 > http://example.com/.well-known/rdap/ip/192.0.2.1 > or > http://example.com/.well-known/rdap/nameserver/192.0.2.1 >=20 > As long as I roughly read the existing I-Ds about query and response on > RDAP, I couldn't find this answer. If this topic was already discussed > on this list, sorry for the duplication. rdap-query doesn't currently describe a method for nameserver lookup by IP = address. If we do that we'd use the "nameserver" path segment. The new registry agreement describes requirements for whois (not RDAP) serv= ice, so I don't want to blindly assume that it's a requirement for us. That= doesn't mean that we shouldn't think about adding it, though. Should we? I= t doesn't seem unreasonable. Examples: nameserver/192.0.2.0 nameserver/2001:db8::0 Scott From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Fri Jan 31 05:18:00 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854541A05A3 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:18:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.141 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.141 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_INFO=1.448, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5o4OyLixVx3S for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.yitter.info (ow5p.x.rootbsd.net [208.79.81.114]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADAA1A0596 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.yitter.info (unknown [209.117.47.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B05FE8A031 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:17:54 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:17:52 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: weirds@ietf.org Message-ID: <20140131131752.GD11869@mx1.yitter.info> References: <20140131.144009.59661735.kambe@jprs.co.jp> <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4933C1CC@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <831693C2CDA2E849A7D7A712B24E257F4933C1CC@BRN1WNEXMBX01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:18:00 -0000 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 01:06:26PM +0000, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: k about adding it, though. Should we? It doesn't seem unreasonable. Examples: > > nameserver/192.0.2.0 > nameserver/2001:db8::0 I suppose, but it's a little strange. NS records only contain names, and an IP address might be the A/AAAA RDATA at several names. How would you know which nameserver you were talking about? A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From andy@arin.net Fri Jan 31 08:45:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DE21A03F5 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:45:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.936 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.936 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FH_RANDOM_SURE=0.499, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tpi1lSNyacJw for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.arin.net (smtp2.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0711A0367 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 2A2BF213676; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (chaxch05.corp.arin.net [192.149.252.94]) by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AC621366D; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from CHAXCH04.corp.arin.net (10.1.30.19) by CHAXCH05.corp.arin.net (192.149.252.94) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:45:22 -0500 Received: from CHAXCH01.corp.arin.net ([169.254.1.174]) by CHAXCH04.corp.arin.net ([10.1.30.19]) with mapi id 14.02.0347.000; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:45:21 -0500 From: Andy Newton To: Andrew Sullivan , "weirds@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address Thread-Index: AQHPHkdd4s5XDGGdZkaFe1AKjNMPmpqfIcEAgAADMgD//+YjAA== Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:45:21 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20140131131752.GD11869@mx1.yitter.info> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.7.130812 x-originating-ip: [10.1.30.36] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <481D63E84544454F86598D88A8B1F88D@corp.arin.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:45:28 -0000 On 1/31/14 8:17 AM, "Andrew Sullivan" wrote: >On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 01:06:26PM +0000, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >k about adding it, though. Should we? It doesn't seem unreasonable. >Examples: >>=20 >> nameserver/192.0.2.0 >> nameserver/2001:db8::0 > >I suppose, but it's a little strange. NS records only contain names, >and an IP address might be the A/AAAA RDATA at several names. How >would you know which nameserver you were talking about? I agree. This more like a search than a lookup. If we want to support this, it should be /nameservers?ip=3DX where X is either an IPv4 or IPv6 address. -andy From prvs=010187b771=johnl@iecc.com Fri Jan 31 08:48:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: weirds@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6D21A0416 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:48:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.535, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E2kzu2UCd394 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD811A03F5 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 08:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 54237 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2014 16:48:49 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2014 16:48:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=52ebd3f1.xn--yuvv84g.k1401; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=mfPej+Ss1UR/SkKa48JHcMh+xYhusC6xMCtDjo/Pg+E=; b=XA++8Bns45unxm5UZe4kd1N7E1p75l+GeIzO0YTInzvZ4uUj49wYgqfuPK61ch6ZTW6ywIRrHPycs05f3qMluePWWAR8n2N9TfJdTCOzq6DLrw9sNqWjGr+GMb+daYSEgGsQMiBvbLdNAxQnEqZosc6fmuyKLgPwrsBhKwoOdnP9NiebK4bXaiYeBbrg8bbiHmsmTMkC0XmVBevLBIjVgUricCD1132kUexj+pGqZaPJSlWp8ffI8D1tm1Njyut9 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=52ebd3f1.xn--yuvv84g.k1401; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=mfPej+Ss1UR/SkKa48JHcMh+xYhusC6xMCtDjo/Pg+E=; b=Ieeep5zKxiMZVGzZrEFQkd7ffTmSgS5FNEcwaa4XY6/zy2lf5Ex6B/gqZ5Od1A7QLDYNWDpZ/f+V1FmyDiKVeLFWK1hcOwfBEnqGUnarL3kwX2UWodNDjRGrI4EkgINdcJD7WnxXlDqgkw2IDXI3JGAZZ7xrBr1ory88AsrNSNdJsv88IQyFQAeRNFqaXCWRMIGGaQPubs1mP1DPFMTeCqODo6SMa377ul+QEwra8GSd6tFkg5f1xq0rHpwRzebS Date: 31 Jan 2014 16:48:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20140131164826.30587.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: weirds@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20140131131752.GD11869@mx1.yitter.info> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [weirds] Question: Nameserver data looked up by IP address X-BeenThere: weirds@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "WHOIS-based Extensible Internet Registration Data Service \(WEIRDS\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 16:48:57 -0000 >> nameserver/192.0.2.0 >> nameserver/2001:db8::0 > >I suppose, but it's a little strange. NS records only contain names, >and an IP address might be the A/AAAA RDATA at several names. How >would you know which nameserver you were talking about? You wouldn't. It's inherently a wildcard query. If we have wildcard queries for nameservers, we could treat it the same way. If not, I'm inclined to say that the server is allowed to pick any server with that address and treat it as a request about that server. R's, John