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Hi! Draft minutes for the IETF 111 session have been posted. Please let =
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datatracker:
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Session recordings can be found at:
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Sorry here are the actual links:

Hi! Draft minutes for the IETF 111 session have been posted at the links =
below. Please let me know if you any comment by 19 August 2021 @ 2359 =
UTC.

datatracker:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/minutes-111-wpack-00
GitHub:
https://github.com/wpack-wg/wg-materials/blob/main/ietf111/minutes.md

Session recordings can be found at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D43do-WGSUxE

Cheers,
spt for the chairs


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Hi! This message starts a WG call for adoption of =
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this I-D; the 1st WG call for adoption did not garner enough interest =
for the chairs to make a decision, but at IETF 111 the WG discussed =
adopting the I-D and trimming it down version to only agreed use cases =
(and sticking the others in an appendix). The I-D can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases/

This adoption call will run until 10 September 2021 at 2359 UTC.* Please =
indicate whether or not you would like to see this I-D adopted as a WG =
item.

Thanks,
Sean and Dave

* Note that I am allowing a little extra time here because it is =
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This seems like the wrong order of things to me.  If the point is to adopt =
a document that describes the scenarios we actually have consensus on, why =
are the others not moved to the appendix in the version prior to the adopti=
on call?

If the point is simply to have consensus on the fact that we have a scenari=
o document, fine, but even if it's temporary I don't really like the idea o=
f having a WG-adopted document that describes scenarios as in-scope that do=
n't have consensus.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wpack <wpack-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Sean Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:14 PM
To: WPACK List <wpack@ietf.org>
Subject: [Wpack] Call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases (redux)

Hi! This message starts a WG call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-c=
ases. This is the 2nd WG call for adoption for this I-D; the 1st WG call fo=
r adoption did not garner enough interest for the chairs to make a decision=
, but at IETF 111 the WG discussed adopting the I-D and trimming it down ve=
rsion to only agreed use cases (and sticking the others in an appendix). Th=
e I-D can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases/

This adoption call will run until 10 September 2021 at 2359 UTC.* Please in=
dicate whether or not you would like to see this I-D adopted as a WG item.

Thanks,
Sean and Dave

* Note that I am allowing a little extra time here because it is vacation t=
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Mike,

I may be more laissez faire than most about WG adoption. I think of it =
as the document is a starting point. To date we haven=E2=80=99t had =
people falling on their swords, so I was leaning more towards the =E2=80=9C=
get this version in, hack on it for -01=E2=80=9D camp. If a lot of =
people are in the same camp as you we can always call this one off, get =
the I-D updated and start over.

spt

> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:15, Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be> wrote:
>=20
> This seems like the wrong order of things to me.  If the point is to =
adopt a document that describes the scenarios we actually have consensus =
on, why are the others not moved to the appendix in the version prior to =
the adoption call?
>=20
> If the point is simply to have consensus on the fact that we have a =
scenario document, fine, but even if it's temporary I don't really like =
the idea of having a WG-adopted document that describes scenarios as =
in-scope that don't have consensus.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wpack <wpack-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Sean Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:14 PM
> To: WPACK List <wpack@ietf.org>
> Subject: [Wpack] Call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases =
(redux)
>=20
> Hi! This message starts a WG call for adoption of =
draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases. This is the 2nd WG call for adoption for =
this I-D; the 1st WG call for adoption did not garner enough interest =
for the chairs to make a decision, but at IETF 111 the WG discussed =
adopting the I-D and trimming it down version to only agreed use cases =
(and sticking the others in an appendix). The I-D can be found here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases/
>=20
> This adoption call will run until 10 September 2021 at 2359 UTC.* =
Please indicate whether or not you would like to see this I-D adopted as =
a WG item.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Sean and Dave
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> * Note that I am allowing a little extra time here because it is =
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Hi,

On 19/08/2021 03:14, Sean Turner wrote:
> Hi! This message starts a WG call for adoption of draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases. This is the 2nd WG call for adoption for this I-D; the 1st WG call for adoption did not garner enough interest for the chairs to make a decision, but at IETF 111 the WG discussed adopting the I-D and trimming it down version to only agreed use cases (and sticking the others in an appendix). The I-D can be found here:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yasskin-wpack-use-cases/
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> This adoption call will run until 10 September 2021 at 2359 UTC.* Please indicate whether or not you would like to see this I-D adopted as a WG item.

I support adoption of this document, as it looks like a reasonable 
starting point. I expect the document to change in the WG.

Best Regards,

Alexey

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> * Note that I am allowing a little extra time here because it is vacation time.
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From: NomCom Chair 2021 <nomcom-chair-2021@ietf.org>
Subject: NomCom 2021-2022 Call for Nominations
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