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FYI to this list. The WPACK bundle format also includes a binary
representation of HTTP messages, so we should try to ensure we don't wind
up with two different representations in the ecosystem if possible.

Jeffrey

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 3:20 AM
Subject: Call for Adoption: Binary Representation of HTTP Messages
To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Cc: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>


Hello everyone,

This draft was discussed in our last interim, and there seemed to be
interest in adoption. Additionally, the newly formed OHAI working group has
a dependency on it:
  <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-http-binary-message/>

So, this kicks off a one-week call for adoption for this draft. Please
respond saying whether you support adoption of this draft as a work item.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">FYI to this list. The WPACK bundle format also includes a =
binary representation of HTTP messages, so we should try to ensure we don&#=
39;t wind up with two different representations in the ecosystem if possibl=
e.<div><br></div><div>Jeffrey<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: =
<strong class=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">Mark Nottingham</strong> <s=
pan dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mnot@mnot.net">mnot@mnot.net</a>&gt;=
</span><br>Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 3:20 AM<br>Subject: Call for Adoption:=
 Binary Representation of HTTP Messages<br>To: HTTP Working Group &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org">ietf-http-wg@w3.org</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Tommy =
Pauly &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tpauly@apple.com">tpauly@apple.com</a>&gt;<br><=
/div><br><br>Hello everyone,<br>
<br>
This draft was discussed in our last interim, and there seemed to be intere=
st in adoption. Additionally, the newly formed OHAI working group has a dep=
endency on it:<br>
=C2=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-http-b=
inary-message/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/doc/draft-thomson-http-binary-message/</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
So, this kicks off a one-week call for adoption for this draft. Please resp=
ond saying whether you support adoption of this draft as a work item.<br><b=
r>
<br>
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Thanks for the nudge Jeffrey.  I was aware of that, but found that it wasn't general enough to be fit for this use case.  If there are things we can do to make the differences less dramatic, or eliminate them entirely, that would be worth looking into.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021, at 11:37, Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
> FYI to this list. The WPACK bundle format also includes a binary 
> representation of HTTP messages, so we should try to ensure we don't 
> wind up with two different representations in the ecosystem if possible.
>
> Jeffrey
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Mark Nottingham* <mnot@mnot.net>
> Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 3:20 AM
> Subject: Call for Adoption: Binary Representation of HTTP Messages
> To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
> Cc: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> This draft was discussed in our last interim, and there seemed to be 
> interest in adoption. Additionally, the newly formed OHAI working group 
> has a dependency on it:
>   <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-thomson-http-binary-message/>
>
> So, this kicks off a one-week call for adoption for this draft. Please 
> respond saying whether you support adoption of this draft as a work 
> item.
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>
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Larry Masinter writes:
> I was suggesting you *add* the use cases for MIME multipart as
> potential use cases for WPACK packaging.  For MHTML/related (which
> you cover), for form-data (which you don't), for alternative (which
> you might have), 

Larry, we brought it up today in the wg meeting and the general sense
was we're still not entirely clear how you see this use case.  The
document authors (Jeffry and Felipe) would welcome suggested text,
either here on the list or at https://github.com/wpack-wg/use-cases
with a pull request.


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Hello,

Thank you to everybody involved in organizing yesterday's meeting at 
IETF112.

My slides about our work on bundle preloading should soon be available 
at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/session/wpack

As a small summary for those that could not attend, here are the highlights:

- a explainer for our proposal is available at
   * https://github.com/WICG/bundle-preloading

- ongoing effort to converge with the work by the Chromium team
   * https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/issues/699

- the Node.js module for creating and reading Web Bundles has been 
updated to the latest version of the spec
   * https://www.npmjs.com/package/wbn
   * https://github.com/WICG/webpackage/tree/main/js/bundle

- we have a working prototype in JS of Bundle Preloading:
   * the client uses a service worker to request a list of
     bundled resources and cache them one by one;
   * the server is able to serve bundles on the fly containing
     a subset of the resources in the reference bundle file;
   * we have created a couple of simple examples and are
     very interested in hearing about other scenarios that
     people might want to try out;
   * https://github.com/WICG/bundle-preloading/tree/main/prototypes


Future steps:

- better integration with bundler tools (e.g. webpack);
- early benchmarking;
- develop more examples.


Thanks again and best regards,
Felipe


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> On Nov 10, 2021, at 21:52, Felipe Erias <felipeerias@igalia.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> My slides about our work on bundle preloading should soon be available =
at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/session/wpack

I apologize for not making them available sooner, but they are now up at =
the location about as well as in the WG=E2=80=99s gh repo:
https://github.com/wpack-wg/wg-materials/tree/main/ietf112

Cheers,
spt=

