From gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se Fri Mar 4 06:00:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6C728B56A for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:00:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w1FgGYVKaCzy for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsp-outgoing1.binero.net (vsp-outgoing1.binero.net [193.17.218.160]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 609A43A6864 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:00:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.binero.se (unknown [195.74.39.229]) by vsp-outgoing1.binero.net (Halon Mail Gateway) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:01:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.50.31] (h225n1fls32o933.telia.com [213.67.165.225]) by smtp-07-01.atm.binero.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 36BC83A1F0 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:01:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D70F0C1.60807@omnitor.se> Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 15:01:37 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gunnar_Hellstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XCON Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [XCON] Mixer-type capability declaration X-BeenThere: xcon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Centralized Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:00:39 -0000 Is there in the XCON structure an established way to declare what type of conference-mixer a focus intends to use and a ua is capable of presenting? E.g. to tell what is supported among: RTP mith multiple media lines RTP Mixer RTP Translator Other specified mixer types I have not found any such capability declarations specified explicitly anywhere. Thanks Gunnar -- ___________________________________________________ Gunnar Hellström Omnitor gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se +46708204288 From duddy@avaya.com Thu Mar 10 04:20:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B91F3A691D; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:20:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6IaoL-jjXnJb; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6B73A68DF; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAFMtcU2HCzI1/2dsb2JhbACmZXSkeQKZFoVhBJAM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,295,1297054800"; d="scan'208,217";a="236075160" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 07:21:25 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,295,1297054800"; d="scan'208,217";a="614574615" Received: from unknown (HELO 306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.148.152]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2011 07:21:24 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBDF1D.9FE55553" Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:21:38 -0000 Message-ID: <4408C6EC74CC3D42824FD68FDA8E8F71015CE5CB@306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [XCON] Last Call: (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcvfHbSeSeCwhhKtSMKWkHGzqJRyDA== From: "Duddy, Sean (Sean)" To: , Subject: [XCON] Last Call: (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: xcon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Centralized Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 12:20:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBDF1D.9FE55553 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Just a minor comment:- =20 Section 4.3 (a) =20 "If the domain name is NOT within the server's domain of responsibility, then the server MUST return a 500 Server Internal Error." =20 I dont believe this is an appropriate error for this situation.=20 I am not sure what error code would be applicable here, but 500 would indicate to a client that their request is causing an error on the server which is not the case... =20 =20 Sean ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBDF1D.9FE55553 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 All,
   =20 Just a minor comment:-
 
Section 4.3 (a)
 
 "If the domain name is NOT = within the=20 server's domain of responsibility,
 then the server MUST return = a 500=20 Server Internal Error."
 
I dont believe this is an = appropriate error=20 for this situation.
I am not sure what error code would be = applicable here,=20 but 500 would indicate to a client that=20 their request is causing an error on the server which is not the=20 case...
 
 
Sean
------_=_NextPart_001_01CBDF1D.9FE55553-- From spromano@unina.it Fri Mar 11 09:09:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2463A6C49; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:09:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.718 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.718 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Quzn+WO6KM+T; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.unina.it (smtp2.unina.it [192.132.34.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCDF3A6C4E; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [143.225.229.230] ([143.225.229.230]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp2.unina.it (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2BHAtfq017989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:10:56 +0100 Message-ID: <4D7A5798.7080803@unina.it> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:10:48 +0100 From: Simon Pietro Romano User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; it; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Duddy, Sean (Sean)" References: <4408C6EC74CC3D42824FD68FDA8E8F71015CE5CB@306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <4408C6EC74CC3D42824FD68FDA8E8F71015CE5CB@306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090907020009000707030806" Cc: xcon@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [XCON] Last Call: (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: xcon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Centralized Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:09:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090907020009000707030806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sean, > Just a minor comment:- > Section 4.3 (a) > "If the domain name is NOT within the server's domain of responsibility, > then the server MUST return a 500 Server Internal Error." > > I dont believe this is an appropriate error for this situation. > I am not sure what error code would be applicable here, but 500 > would indicate to a client that their request is causing an error on > the server which is not the case... I see your point. What about using a 4xx code like, e.g., "Invalid Domain Name"? Simon > Sean > > > _______________________________________________ > XCON mailing list > XCON@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xcon -- _\\|//_ ( O-O ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Pietro Romano Universita' di Napoli Federico II Computer Science Department Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7684219 e-mail: spromano@unina.it http://www.comics.unina.it/simonpietro.romano <>. Magritte. oooO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~( )~~ Oooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/ --------------090907020009000707030806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sean,

    Just a minor comment:-
 
Section 4.3 (a)
 
 "If the domain name is NOT within the server's domain of responsibility,
 then the server MUST return a 500 Server Internal Error."
 
I dont believe this is an appropriate error for this situation.
I am not sure what error code would be applicable here, but 500 would indicate to a client that their request is causing an error on the server which is not the case...
I see your point. What about using a 4xx code like, e.g., "Invalid Domain Name"?

Simon
 
 
Sean

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--------------090907020009000707030806-- From duddy@avaya.com Fri Mar 11 14:41:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: xcon@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250FF3A6A37; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:41:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wBWeSMmhivI9; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FA23A6A33; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:40:57 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAFMtcU2HCzI1/2dsb2JhbACmZXSkeQKZFgKFXwSQDA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,305,1297054800"; d="scan'208,217";a="236367982" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.53]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2011 17:42:16 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,305,1297054800"; d="scan'208,217";a="616059115" Received: from unknown (HELO 306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.148.152]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2011 17:42:15 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CBE03D.851D7C11" Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:45:25 -0000 Message-ID: <4408C6EC74CC3D42824FD68FDA8E8F71015CE717@306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <4D7A5798.7080803@unina.it> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [XCON] Last Call: (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AcvgD0rMkNzfvNGlT9irVfKm1BcTygAKqK6Q References: <4408C6EC74CC3D42824FD68FDA8E8F71015CE5CB@306900ANEX2.global.avaya.com> <4D7A5798.7080803@unina.it> From: "Duddy, Sean (Sean)" To: "Simon Pietro Romano" Cc: xcon@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [XCON] Last Call: (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: xcon@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Centralized Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:41:00 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE03D.851D7C11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Simon, That sounds good to me! =20 Sean ________________________________ From: Simon Pietro Romano [mailto:spromano@unina.it]=20 Sent: 11 March 2011 17:11 To: Duddy, Sean (Sean) Cc: xcon@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [XCON] Last Call: = (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed Standard Hi Sean, Just a minor comment:- =20 Section 4.3 (a) =20 "If the domain name is NOT within the server's domain of = responsibility, then the server MUST return a 500 Server Internal Error." =20 I dont believe this is an appropriate error for this situation.=20 I am not sure what error code would be applicable here, but 500 would = indicate to a client that their request is causing an error on the = server which is not the case... I see your point. What about using a 4xx code like, e.g., "Invalid = Domain Name"? Simon =20 =20 Sean =09 _______________________________________________ XCON mailing list XCON@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xcon --=20 _\\|//_ ( O-O ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Simon Pietro Romano Universita' di Napoli Federico II Computer Science Department=20 Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7684219 e-mail: spromano@unina.it http://www.comics.unina.it/simonpietro.romano <>. Magritte. oooO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~( )~~ Oooo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ ( ( ) \_) ) / (_/ ------_=_NextPart_001_01CBE03D.851D7C11 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Simon,
    That sounds good to = me!
 
Sean

From: Simon Pietro Romano=20 [mailto:spromano@unina.it]
Sent: 11 March 2011 = 17:11
To:=20 Duddy, Sean (Sean)
Cc: xcon@ietf.org; = iesg@ietf.org
Subject:=20 Re: [XCON] Last Call: <draft-ietf-xcon-ccmp-12.txt>=20 (CentralizedConferencing Manipulation Protocol) to Proposed=20 Standard

Hi Sean,

   =20 Just a minor comment:-
 
Section 4.3 (a)
 
 "If the domain name is = NOT within the=20 server's domain of responsibility,
 then the server MUST = return a 500=20 Server Internal Error."
 
I dont believe this is an = appropriate=20 error for this situation.
I am not sure what error code would be=20 applicable here, but 500 would indicate to a client that their request is causing an error on = the server=20 which is not the case...
I see = your=20 point. What about using a 4xx code like, e.g., "Invalid Domain=20 Name"?

Simon
 
 
Sean

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        Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7684219
                e-mail: spromano@unina.it
          http://www.comics.=
unina.it/simonpietro.romano

    <<Molti mi dicono che lo scoraggiamento =E8 l'alibi degli=20
   idioti. Ci rifletto un istante; e mi scoraggio>>. Magritte.
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