From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue May 3 01:00:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F423DE0780 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:00:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TIpHPc0ri+zQ for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D28FE06E2 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [144.254.202.34]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44E6F40126 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 02:00:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4DBFB612.70505@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:00:18 +0200 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050600050109040606090208" Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: Document Action: 'Moving DIGEST-MD5 to Historic' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-kitten-digest-to-historic-04.txt) X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:00:22 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050600050109040606090208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI. Keep working on those SCRAM implementations. :) /psa -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Document Action: 'Moving DIGEST-MD5 to Historic' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-kitten-digest-to-historic-04.txt) Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:31:03 -0700 From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce CC: kitten mailing list , kitten chair , RFC Editor The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Moving DIGEST-MD5 to Historic' (draft-ietf-kitten-digest-to-historic-04.txt) as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Common Authentication Technology Next= Generation Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Stephen Farrell and Sean Turner. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-kitten-digest-to-historic/ Technical Summary The DIGEST-MD5 Simple Authentication and Security Layer (SASL) mechanism has known security and interoperability problems. This memo recommends that RFC 2831 be moved to Historic status, and that the DIGEST-MD5 mechanism be marked as OBSOLETE in the IANA Registry. Working Group Summary This document is a product of the SASL and KITTEN Working Groups (which merged during the lifetime of the document). Document Quality This document passed a Working Group Last Call in the SASL and KITTEN Working Groups with no major concerns. Personnel Tom Yu (tlyu@mit.edu) is the document shepherd Stephen Farrell (stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie) is the responsible AD. _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce --------------ms050600050109040606090208 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIITzjCC BjQwggQcoAMCAQICASMwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwfTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNVBAoT DVN0YXJ0Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNp Z25pbmcxKTAnBgNVBAMTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTA3 MTAyNDIxMDMzM1oXDTE3MTAyNDIxMDMzM1owgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1T dGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSswKQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWdu 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7 May 2011 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfcpa.amsl.com [64.170.98.47]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3C9E06BA for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 2E5AEE0742; Sat, 7 May 2011 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) To: psaintan@cisco.com, gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com, rjsparks@nostrum.com, ben@nostrum.com, jhildebr@cisco.com From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20110507175918.2E5AEE0742@rfc-editor.org> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Cc: xmpp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [xmpp] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6122 (2801) X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:59:19 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6122, "Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6122&eid=2801 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Florian Zeitz Section: 2.2 Original Text ------------- When preparing a text label (consisting of a sequence of UTF-8 encoded Unicode code points) for representation as an internationalized label in the process of constructing an XMPP domainpart or comparing two XMPP domainparts, an application MUST ensure that for each text label it is possible to apply without failing the ToASCII operation specified in [IDNA2003] with the UseSTD3ASCIIRules flag set (thus forbidding ASCII code points other than letters, digits, and hyphens). Corrected Text -------------- When preparing a text label (consisting of a sequence of UTF-8 encoded Unicode code points) for representation as an internationalized label in the process of constructing an XMPP domainpart, an application MUST ensure that for each text label it is possible to apply without failing the ToASCII operation specified in [IDNA2003] with the UseSTD3ASCIIRules flag set (thus forbidding ASCII code points other than letters, digits, and hyphens). When comparing two XMPP domainparts, an application MUST first apply the [NAMEPREP] profile of [STRINGPREP] to both domainparts and perform a byte-wise comparison afterwards. Notes ----- As is the RFC does not specify how to compare XMPP domainparts. It should have been pointed out that normalization is required and how to do that normalization. Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC6122 (draft-ietf-xmpp-address-09) -------------------------------------- Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format Publication Date : March 2011 Author(s) : P. Saint-Andre Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol Area : Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue May 17 09:27:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AD6E0825 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FoLeZt+DKyMj for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FB7E0828 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-204.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-204.cisco.com [64.101.72.204]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A88E740046 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4DD2A1F0.8040206@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:27:28 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms080604090503070701080608" Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-precis-framework-01.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:27:46 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms080604090503070701080608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-precis-framework-01.txt Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:22:44 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : PRECIS Framework: Handling Internationalized Strings in Protocols Author(s) : Marc Blanchet Peter Saint-Andre Filename : draft-blanchet-precis-framework-01.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2011-05-17 Application protocols that make use of Unicode code points in protocol strings need to prepare such strings in order to perform comparison operations (e.g., for purposes of authentication or authorization). In general, this problem has been labeled the "preparation and comparison of internationalized strings" or= "PRECIS". This document defines a framework that enables application protocols to prepare various classes of strings in a way that depends on the properties of Unicode code points. Because this framework does not depend on large tables of Unicode code points as in stringprep (RFC 3454), it is more agile with regard to changes in the underlying Unicode database and thus provides improved flexibility to application protocols. A specification that reuses this framework either can directly use the base string classes defined in this document or can subclass the base string classes as needed. This framework uses an approach similar to that of the revised internationalized domain names in applications (IDNA) technology (RFC 5890, RFC 5891, RFC 5892, RFC 5893, RFC 5894) and thus adheres to the high-level design goals described in RFC 4690, albeit for non-IDNA technologies. This document obsoletes RFC 3454. 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protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020408070206020902020102" Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xmpp-6122bis-00.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:27:48 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020408070206020902020102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xmpp-6122bis-00.txt Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 09:23:25 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format Author(s) : Peter Saint-Andre Filename : draft-saintandre-xmpp-6122bis-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2011-05-17 This document defines the format for addresses used in the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), including support for non- ASCII characters. This document obsoletes RFC 6122. 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tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0krKni1fio9J for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C822E0746 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-204.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-204.cisco.com [64.101.72.204]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12ED240046 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 10:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4DD2A409.70504@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:36:25 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040705060905090401000007" Subject: [xmpp] address format X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:36:28 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040705060905090401000007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I've finally made the time to write two documents that hopefully will move us forward with regard to the XMPP address format: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-blanchet-precis-framework/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-xmpp-6122bis/ The first document describes a framework for base string classes that we can reuse in XMPP. The second document describes how we can reuse those string classes to replace Nodeprep and Resourceprep. The documents are a bit rough in places, but should provide a starting point for discussion both in the XMPP WG and in the PRECIS WG. 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From waqas20@gmail.com Tue May 17 09:52:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C261CE0720 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:52:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qOPRPsk5L2xt for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gw0-f44.google.com (mail-gw0-f44.google.com [74.125.83.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BEAE071C for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gwb20 with SMTP id 20so275963gwb.31 for ; Tue, 17 May 2011 09:52:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; 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21:51:52 +0500 Message-ID: To: Peter Saint-Andre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: XMPP Subject: Re: [xmpp] address format X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 16:52:13 -0000 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Folks, I've finally made the time to write two documents that hopefully > will move us forward with regard to the XMPP address format: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-blanchet-precis-framework/ > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-xmpp-6122bis/ > For anyone interested in reviewing the changes, side-by-side diff against RFC6122: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-saintandre-xmpp-6122bis-00.txt From mwild1@gmail.com Tue May 24 06:11:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from 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b=AomhIq46cIiuJnp+D4BFyq44BfVClFd7yeT/cpvjZjG5727TIADomIQfE1QjOqTSVl 42iNsf5jyPvw6/3ek1cDGxmhSAVeM6pUUrCuBwEzNuNdIqjfu363VtDQ9Q7tyl/zCakh 2uK7CcxormNEesLrAEH1MNZeqAPco8TnEf8k4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=vqW4i7MPVOkr8RNvaGefN2MVl0unbFayXKx/FEp/rILDo31lYVn87NPWy2Rygd9l5Z VKrSY2V3M0ZP5s+wB/HScn3Xoz+D/yyXny0AZAzeuiCJiL1tmxBgTN55p2CRAtmxmvUk JmPcSz8jRSBj2NzEZ7dQ2aOcwf7iSO6CMA1uI= Received: by 10.42.132.131 with SMTP id d3mr11289764ict.177.1306242677104; Tue, 24 May 2011 06:11:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.195.2 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2011 06:10:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Wild Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 14:10:57 +0100 Message-ID: To: XMPP Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: [xmpp] Roster push on subscription request denial X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:11:20 -0000 Hi, Someone noticed recently an oddity when cancelling a subscription request in Prosody (I haven't investigated other servers). Flow: - Contact sends subscription request - User sends to deny - Prosody sends roster push to user with subscription='remove' This last step is somewhat counter-intuitive - the contact was never in the user's roster as far as the client was concerned. However the roster push is required by the spec: "Otherwise, as shown in the following examples, the contact's server MUST route or deliver both presence notifications of type "unavailable" and presence stanzas of type "unsubscribed" to the user and MUST send a roster push to the contact." Thoughts? Regards, Matthew From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue May 24 09:41:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59380E073C for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rn1AP+xX79CC for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 09:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F61E0730 for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 09:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-158.cisco.com (dhcp-64-101-72-158.cisco.com [64.101.72.158]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E05E640046 for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 10:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4DDBDFC9.5030001@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:41:45 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010409020504050807070703" Subject: Re: [xmpp] Roster push on subscription request denial X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:41:47 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010409020504050807070703 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/24/11 7:10 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Someone noticed recently an oddity when cancelling a subscription > request in Prosody (I haven't investigated other servers). >=20 > Flow: > - Contact sends subscription request > - User sends to deny > - Prosody sends roster push to user with subscription=3D'remove' >=20 > This last step is somewhat counter-intuitive - the contact was never > in the user's roster as far as the client was concerned. >=20 > However the roster push is required by the spec: >=20 > "Otherwise, as shown in the following examples, the contact's server > MUST route or deliver both presence notifications of type > "unavailable" and presence stanzas of type "unsubscribed" to the user > and MUST send a roster push to the contact." >=20 > Thoughts? Your quote is missing some context. The text in Section 3.2.2 reads: ### Upon receiving the outbound subscription cancellation, the contact's server MUST proceed as follows. 1. If the user's bare JID is not yet in the contact's roster or is in the contact's roster with a state of "None", "None + Pending Out", or "To", the contact's server SHOULD NOT route or deliver the presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user and MUST NOT send presence notifications of type "unavailable" to the user as described below. 2. If the user's bare JID is in the contact's roster with a state of "None", "None + Pending Out", or "To" and the 'approved' flag is set to "true" (thus signaling a subscription pre-approval as described under Section 3.4), the contact's server MUST remove the pre-approval and MUST NOT route or deliver the presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user. 3. Otherwise, as shown in the following examples, the contact's server MUST route or deliver both presence notifications of type "unavailable" and presence stanzas of type "unsubscribed" to the user and MUST send a roster push to the contact. ### The case you're talking about fits #1 because the user is not yet in the contact's roster. However, the spec might have a different bug here, because it says that the contact's server SHOULD NOT route the "unsubscribed" to the user. Yet that would prevent the contact's server from informing the user that the contact has denied the subscription request (a kind of "polite denial"). That seems wrong -- I think it needs to say "SHOULD" instead of "SHOULD NOT". Thus 6121bis (shudder) would say: 1. If the user's bare JID is not yet in the contact's roster or is in the contact's roster with a state of "None", the contact's server SHOULD route or deliver the presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user, MUST NOT send presence notifications of type "unavailable" to the user as described below, and MUST NOT send a roster push as described below. We'd then need to define #1b that covers the "None + Pending Out" and "To" cases (send the "unsubscribed", don't send the "unavailable", send the roster push). 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ESMTPSA id BEBEA40046 for ; Tue, 24 May 2011 11:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4DDBEC7F.9050103@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:35:59 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <4DDBDFC9.5030001@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4DDBDFC9.5030001@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saint-andre.com/me/stpeter.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020203030001070908060300" Subject: Re: [xmpp] Roster push on subscription request denial X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:36:03 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020203030001070908060300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/24/11 10:41 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 5/24/11 7:10 AM, Matthew Wild wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone noticed recently an oddity when cancelling a subscription >> request in Prosody (I haven't investigated other servers). >> >> Flow: >> - Contact sends subscription request >> - User sends to deny >> - Prosody sends roster push to user with subscription=3D'remove' >> >> This last step is somewhat counter-intuitive - the contact was never >> in the user's roster as far as the client was concerned. >> >> However the roster push is required by the spec: >> >> "Otherwise, as shown in the following examples, the contact's server >> MUST route or deliver both presence notifications of type >> "unavailable" and presence stanzas of type "unsubscribed" to the user >> and MUST send a roster push to the contact." >> >> Thoughts? >=20 > Your quote is missing some context. The text in Section 3.2.2 reads: >=20 > ### >=20 > Upon receiving the outbound subscription cancellation, the contact's= > server MUST proceed as follows. >=20 > 1. If the user's bare JID is not yet in the contact's roster or is > in the contact's roster with a state of "None", "None + Pending > Out", or "To", the contact's server SHOULD NOT route or deliver > the presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user and MUST > NOT send presence notifications of type "unavailable" to the use= r > as described below. >=20 > 2. If the user's bare JID is in the contact's roster with a state o= f > "None", "None + Pending Out", or "To" and the 'approved' flag is= > set to "true" (thus signaling a subscription pre-approval as > described under Section 3.4), the contact's server MUST remove > the pre-approval and MUST NOT route or deliver the presence > stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user. >=20 > 3. Otherwise, as shown in the following examples, the contact's > server MUST route or deliver both presence notifications of type= > "unavailable" and presence stanzas of type "unsubscribed" to the= > user and MUST send a roster push to the contact. >=20 > ### >=20 > The case you're talking about fits #1 because the user is not yet in th= e > contact's roster. However, the spec might have a different bug here, > because it says that the contact's server SHOULD NOT route the > "unsubscribed" to the user. Yet that would prevent the contact's server= > from informing the user that the contact has denied the subscription > request (a kind of "polite denial"). That seems wrong -- I think it > needs to say "SHOULD" instead of "SHOULD NOT". Thus 6121bis (shudder) > would say: >=20 > 1. If the user's bare JID is not yet in the contact's roster or is > in the contact's roster with a state of "None", the contact's > server SHOULD route or deliver the presence stanza of type > "unsubscribed" to the user, MUST NOT send presence notifications= > of type "unavailable" to the user as described below, and MUST > NOT send a roster push as described below. >=20 > We'd then need to define #1b that covers the "None + Pending Out" and > "To" cases (send the "unsubscribed", don't send the "unavailable", send= > the roster push). >=20 > Or so it seems to me. :) For further corroboration, see Section 8.2.1 of RFC 3921: ### 8.2.1. Alternate Flow: Contact Declines Subscription Request The above activity flow represents the "happy path" regarding the user's subscription request to the contact. The main alternate flow occurs if the contact refuses the user's subscription request, as described below. 1. If the contact wants to refuse the request, the contact's client MUST send a presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user (instead of the presence stanza of type "subscribed" sent in Step 6 of Section 8.2): 2. As a result, the contact's server MUST route the presence stanza of type "unsubscribed" to the user, first stamping the 'from' address as the bare JID () of the contact: Note: If the contact's server previously added the user to the contact's roster for tracking purposes, it MUST remove the relevant item at this time. ### So I think the spec author goofed here. I'll work on suitable text for an erratum. 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