From prvs=527ce0d9f=christou_chris@bah.com Thu Jul 5 17:50:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493B721F85AF for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:50:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4F5wUu781Zkb for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mclniron01-ext.bah.com (mclniron01-ext.bah.com [128.229.5.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052CF21F8594 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:50:42 -0700 (PDT) x-SBRS: None X-REMOTE-IP: 10.12.10.216 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=HWDFEOfULDN/aY2QFgAJGALh24J7Irc/MZZMnXEzz/Q= c=1 sm=2 a=2Vt7o8STSQUA:10 a=hnOEDMOpc38A:10 a=VSl--tYzzWsA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=A1Bh5xTPAAAA:8 a=R_peLYNO61zOlEPtcSwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10 a=Y-H8ny1_lK_MlP5L:21 a=BSWIzqr_aEdTjdwT:21 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4EAKQ19k8KDArY/2dsb2JhbABFuD+CGAEBAQQBAQE3NBcEAgEIEQQBAQEKFAkHJwsUCQgCBBMIiA65eos5hUZgA5ZJkVA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,533,1336363200"; d="scan'208";a="162666735" Received: from ashbcwsv01.usae.bah.com (HELO ASHBCSHB05.resource.ds.bah.com) ([10.12.10.216]) by mclniron01-int.bah.com with ESMTP; 05 Jul 2012 20:50:58 -0400 Received: from ASHBDAG1M1.resource.ds.bah.com ([169.254.1.42]) by ASHBCSHB05.resource.ds.bah.com ([10.12.10.216]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:50:12 -0400 From: "Christou, Christos [USA]" To: "xmpp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [External] Re: [xmpp] SIP-XMPP mapping specs Thread-Index: AQHNVjJ9WGJi2DHelUui1z6vXfuXzJcSGuEAgAPoPoCABUhEoIAAQ5kA///mK4A= Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:50:11 +0000 Message-ID: <462D69106F82344E95BC83996D8039D2272EDF52@ASHBDAG1M1.resource.ds.bah.com> References: <4FEA2284.70105@stpeter.im> <5A99956B-FC20-4AEE-9D94-AC3A84535491@nostrum.com> <4FEE24AC.7070008@stpeter.im> <2A9179C9953B8C40A1AE90A644BB1CAF0A965F86@ASHBDAG1M2.resource.ds.bah.com> <462D69106F82344E95BC83996D8039D2272EDD43@ASHBDAG1M1.resource.ds.bah.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.12.5.20] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [xmpp] [External] Re: SIP-XMPP mapping specs X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 00:50:44 -0000 Hello all, We are currently working on a system where we require SIP for IP-based voic= e and video services and XMPP for IM/Chat. As a result, to help drive the = vendors towards consistent interoperability and mapping specifications, we = would definitely find this work to be useful. Thank you, Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: xmpp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:xmpp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf=20 > Of Peter Saint-Andre > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:57 PM > To: Ben Campbell > Cc: XMPP Working Group > Subject: [External] Re: [xmpp] SIP-XMPP mapping specs >=20 > My opinion is: let's see if anyone actually sends me direct feedback=20 > as they promised or I requested. I'm using that as a gauge of energy=20 > levels. :) >=20 > On 6/29/12 2:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >> (As chair) >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> Elaborating on Peter's comment that this work "might not be in the XMPP = wg", although it is mentioned in the XMPP charter: >>=20 >> We removed the related milestone for SIP-XMPP mapping a while back, base= d on the working group's express lack of interest at the time. I think the = only reason the charter language remains is that we simply did not feel the= need for a complete recharter at the time. I do not mean this to prejudice= any future decisions on the matter, but if we decide to add the milestone(= s) back, we would need to treat it as proposed new work, rather than just r= estarting an existing, but dormant, work item. >>=20 >> That doesn't mean we can't reuse existing (or expired) drafts--just that= we will need both a work group consensus and AD approval to add the milest= ones back.=20 >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >> Ben. >>=20 >> On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>=20 >>> Recently I've received expressions of interest in reviving and=20 >>> finalizing the SIP-XMPP mapping specifications. In rough order of=20 >>> maturity they are: >>>=20 >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-core/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-presence/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-im/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-chat/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-groupchat/ >>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-sip-xmpp-media/ >>>=20 >>> If anyone here would like to provide feedback on these specs, I=20 >>> would appreciate hearing about off-list so that I can determine if=20 >>> there's energy enough to move them forward somehow (that might not=20 >>> be in the XMPP WG, although there's an item on the WG's charter to=20 >>> "define a framework within which this work could be completed"). >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>>=20 >>> Peter >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Peter Saint-Andre >>> https://stpeter.im/ >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xmpp mailing list >>> xmpp@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp From mamille2@cisco.com Fri Jul 13 08:06:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2A21F8637 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:06:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.577 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.577 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.022, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qE0iacUHxog2 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0274E21F8598 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:05:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=mamille2@cisco.com; l=4619; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342191996; x=1343401596; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=xkHju7O7K4JJFffOQym5LXSwZmPsTuIodc9Z2brXqx4=; b=OQNVSrasJNjhod0xFwxumxK1c2xzjJ9U3QYjwOk7ylqVgadCwkGtNXUB BPpOgRlayscpZtzGKxJswihGWa6zg6MEiWfEZMJ+uVV6pYKiI6FQfiaLf aepk7ShgpIHguwGd9BCW/UeoYcJnAivoFcVdqFQ/RCYzmAGW3UxhlMfjL k=; X-Files: smime.p7s, PGP.sig : 2214, 535 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQFAA85AFCtJV2Y/2dsb2JhbABFgyu0dYEHgicSAXgBUDAnBBMOFIdrC5oGgSigLZBSYAOOTIEhhU2BEo0OgWaCXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,579,1336348800"; d="sig'?p7s'?scan'208";a="101617083" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Jul 2012 15:06:36 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x11.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x11.cisco.com [173.37.183.85]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6DF6aPV016982 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:06:36 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com ([169.254.6.238]) by xhc-rcd-x11.cisco.com ([173.37.183.85]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 10:06:35 -0500 From: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" To: XMPP Working Group Thread-Topic: UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype Thread-Index: AQHNYQkX9V40zEPjy0GhHDInS5a+QA== Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:06:34 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-pgp-agent: GPGMail 1.3.3 x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.24] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19036.006 x-tm-as-result: No--25.825300-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-51-960091800" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [xmpp] UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:06:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail-51-960091800 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-50-960091788; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail-50-960091788 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An update to draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype is now available. 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13 Jul 2012 22:53:55 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com [173.36.12.88]) by rcdn-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6DMrtim030646 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:53:55 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com ([169.254.6.238]) by xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com ([173.36.12.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:53:55 -0500 From: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" To: XMPP Working Group Thread-Topic: UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-e2e Thread-Index: AQHNYUpgVg15xKZpeU+80MUlENbqxA== Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:53:54 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-pgp-agent: GPGMail 1.3.3 x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.24] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19036.004 x-tm-as-result: No--27.744300-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-8-988132784" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [xmpp] UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-e2e X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:53:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-8-988132784 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-988132753; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail-7-988132753 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And update to draft-miller-xmpp-e2e is now available. This is still = using JW*, but uses key wrapping instead of "alg":"none". There is still = some partial header use, for the exchange of the Session Master Key = (SMK). No, this is not addressing every single concern everyone might have = brought up on- or off-list, but at least demonstrates something (I = think) is more inline with JWE. < http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-e2e-02 > - m&m Matt Miller - Cisco Systems, Inc. --Apple-Mail-7-988132753 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIFNTCCBTEw ggMZoAMCAQICAwmYMjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4wHAYDVQQL ExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNhY2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmluZyBBdXRob3Jp dHkxITAfBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEnN1cHBvcnRAY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZzAeFw0xMDEyMTQxNzQ3MTlaFw0x MjEyMTMxNzQ3MTlaMDwxFzAVBgNVBAMTDk1hdHRoZXcgTWlsbGVyMSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJt YW1pbGxlMkBjaXNjby5jb20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQC7Sh5cQYtd /kfoG3KjXd8i2esxt+BtHCmuiSku2VECC6msLKzA08cGJ31GfyX7+996TV3D5omh51j5fznfFikk cVGsuKe+omo70Aidw48ISGygQk8ZJrU8JVVfTjKVJRX39wgj8w8CI/BCz4kXLirIBWKTv1ARuqsO 7I1aqT7pWHAwlAKIbYYEwfz46OjyzmqknglOecy/1PR09nXwAAIepSo0Jk9edqsU8Pdqsbx8cPUV jlFtVkk+58ORjefl+4BoGrzW24rGG2B04sNPrycNqZEaJLmdk5J9ie/FMV10H8wFW8syomuacPxv NhoUgNnkYsJiO7zJEKUUmbmW1GPFAgMBAAGjgf4wgfswDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADBWBglghkgBhvhC AQ0ESRZHVG8gZ2V0IHlvdXIgb3duIGNlcnRpZmljYXRlIGZvciBGUkVFIGhlYWQgb3ZlciB0byBo dHRwOi8vd3d3LkNBY2VydC5vcmcwQAYDVR0lBDkwNwYIKwYBBQUHAwQGCCsGAQUFBwMCBgorBgEE AYI3CgMEBgorBgEEAYI3CgMDBglghkgBhvhCBAEwMgYIKwYBBQUHAQEEJjAkMCIGCCsGAQUFBzAB hhZodHRwOi8vb2NzcC5jYWNlcnQub3JnMB0GA1UdEQQWMBSBEm1hbWlsbGUyQGNpc2NvLmNvbTAN BgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOCAgEAoa/WVlTWG/rbVIFlG1tCdJrbVvIWNfUNSgojunKsoaVGCoIh7T1+ SgWe8sV+r7s5bVlq66iGxTm/qoKMHM9i4aNGlwWDkXqLHoCKbY4qKPGKnn7PaoA6DWQ5u7ZKBkn9 N2fY8iLxiAy/hLnjtRLlbSr2yBX0DbO1K0ORLDwfO2MUf1j2Cou+qVvEmyEe7cUq37iOOsNbtghT xjn+RE7WJiHcR9deAkfI1xXi7UZcFME+k6nhdnX/qWFFLox0fJJCzX1H8DTzRIjA+ciNLWSG+TRx s7fAn+YZisJdkGxMcWlHZxSu+ybPjc9T7zCyf4+yFHigdOMNxiQ2k/E9WTJ84xIis2TG3E9Nba9B PMb6cgjiqGxiFpKKHj9/5A3wDIHZ8dof+M7YFGnHzwF9i72ZEoaO3hMEhAg9LhqGtQtEZohbTZL2 FOeT+8VjUHSOKhEYurQjWrHDj+ZyDjzhOE/KMwqSWokZhoy0s+VQ05BrVlbXd5DJaB/Hem0MdDUc /6IjqtI6f8O/HLQFAVUQgtW50bfCjDOAB/SaEKzygblcAHxSKDbduRQaRst6cIHEy4eQxvxrHIhg b2KWZ00jS+7NUnAMOyzIJTcZfV5mkCb8UjMHq9NSChwpBFuDzpXxjU20xJGDvbVWNDwfbITCczph p4uuhLITzvhHKaUNwxoqx0oxggMzMIIDLwIBATCBgDB5MRAwDgYDVQQKEwdSb290IENBMR4wHAYD VQQLExVodHRwOi8vd3d3LmNhY2VydC5vcmcxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUNBIENlcnQgU2lnbmluZyBBdXRo b3JpdHkxITAfBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWEnN1cHBvcnRAY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZwIDCZgyMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCg ggGHMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTEyMDcxMzIyNTQy OVowIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFB/rS+ci6owlpGtE2ExFxNUxmuiFMIGRBgkrBgEEAYI3EAQxgYMw gYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBDQTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIw IAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25pbmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0 QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAwmYMjCBkwYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxgYOggYAweTEQMA4GA1UEChMHUm9vdCBD QTEeMBwGA1UECxMVaHR0cDovL3d3dy5jYWNlcnQub3JnMSIwIAYDVQQDExlDQSBDZXJ0IFNpZ25p bmcgQXV0aG9yaXR5MSEwHwYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhJzdXBwb3J0QGNhY2VydC5vcmcCAwmYMjANBgkq hkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQCUFYLfxb2ylyxL4DxhxZmOSL6N92mjIYk99i9/6GYuqD+WE2A9cb4Digz1 1J6zlrYRtBa7NWfEEfHvuwWpdJ46Nerh+RYnPyG8eltJu7xUnPCXUmFVXk5NZuTZsXWPjjKa436e 092smIfr/KvkoPo5w7oFIG+xu7szP0FKaW75JSNfDUYZ8N1HWRwbtcaxYYm3mTNEMLqEF0asJFS+ QIzvtCXTcrKuOopA3+fshOnMK5DCwp+VuA4XhHEmBA6hbrZE4LV96xJeRo+aZfKvH53UhPVHlKko ejOSvpPelIESvE0cmqUWL8K1WIP70tr0tDejPYWPsdrGhkNCwH1DR8TCAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-7-988132753-- --Apple-Mail-8-988132784 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0772F21F85D5 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.101.72.115] (unknown [64.101.72.115]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D62B840075; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:47:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5004331F.1070602@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 09:28:31 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: XMPP Working Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-e2e X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:27:49 -0000 On 7/13/12 4:53 PM, Matt Miller (mamille2) wrote: > An update to draft-miller-xmpp-e2e is now available. Thanks, Matt! I've slowly been adjusting mentally to the model you propose, and I think it makes quite a bit of sense for XMPP. I'll need to complete a more thorough review of this I-D (and the various JW* specs) in the near future, but one small item struck me immediately: for the offline case, I think we need to say something about the fact that this is "best-effort" and the sending entity might itself be offline by the time the receiving entity tries to obtain the key (thus leading to failure of the interaction). Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From mamille2@cisco.com Mon Jul 16 08:32:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A535A21F862F for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.583 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.583 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gyd4S8630lNA for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.86.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFA221F862A for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=mamille2@cisco.com; l=5254; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342452785; x=1343662385; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=u941g0s6hSDQPkPyBzNIcd0O0SKX5pF5OdGRkb4V3oY=; b=Z1PvPRQlo+RZrOnI9spp8fDQSGOwRehY0lAzD2x3FSMEFPGEqC69P/WJ 5ox3wv1GnQbSE5XQUks4b53zEWenVJP0JjMB57reaZ90Xb47v+Tg4mzEH 9n42ljiXlgUsRr7Y+7/lvsknolIR5Lw4xCv6ZN3A7eFXbhj2tAS9Rtd2Q 8=; X-Files: smime.p7s, PGP.sig : 2214, 535 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAL0zBFCtJXG9/2dsb2JhbABFuTeBB4IgAQEBAwESAWYFCwIBCBguAjAlAgQOBQ4Uh2UGnD2fZItAhWdgA45NgSGFTY4ggWaCXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,594,1336348800"; d="sig'?p7s'?scan'208";a="102063480" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2012 15:33:04 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GFX4PO010978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:33:04 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com ([169.254.6.238]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:33:04 -0500 From: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" To: Peter Saint-Andre Thread-Topic: [xmpp] UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-e2e Thread-Index: AQHNYUpgVg15xKZpeU+80MUlENbqxJcsYIyAgAABdIA= Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:33:02 +0000 Message-ID: <4E646364-08AA-4FF5-A858-F0CA6C5602BA@cisco.com> References: <5004331F.1070602@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <5004331F.1070602@stpeter.im> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-pgp-agent: GPGMail 1.3.3 x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.28] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19042.006 x-tm-as-result: No--34.027700-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2--926596409" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: XMPP Working Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] UPDATED: draft-miller-xmpp-e2e X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:32:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--926596409 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--926596424; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail-1--926596424 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 16, 2012, at 09:28, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 7/13/12 4:53 PM, Matt Miller (mamille2) wrote: >=20 >> An update to draft-miller-xmpp-e2e is now available. >=20 > Thanks, Matt! I've slowly been adjusting mentally to the model you > propose, and I think it makes quite a bit of sense for XMPP. I'll need > to complete a more thorough review of this I-D (and the various JW* > specs) in the near future, but one small item struck me immediately: = for > the offline case, I think we need to say something about the fact that > this is "best-effort" and the sending entity might itself be offline = by > the time the receiving entity tries to obtain the key (thus leading to > failure of the interaction). >=20 Thanks for the review, Peter. 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x-mac-type=70674453; name="PGP.sig" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="PGP.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQBDRYAAoJEJq6Ou0cgrSPTAIH/2VSaxmXACdOA+cWDqJC4nmi lDaGUPpIudAAj8Nd9t7f9cOrEowHDgV5ACsFOMrlYRluj3kiZo+IKcoqvtV614y3 Ol8GKhc7+mCXhq7ECBiNrE7HGEW8NeoctAd2hZsVt0IsPk6fWEqO39t2ufryGOe7 hkq8+f5DI13PcJpfXTVGdtsHTp5kGNf32sgwkWdEAcA3u2AZxItxkGyiTJ9445gA NoH0nQXbXgoo0/ECCW7LSm6KLQvR3AbcYex4KsaXHRxQUy/FaiYJlLemKQlHHwJm L746V/DPf//jKCfRoukXPkDdQzimbgPjDOgP92v2KLDvUNFfBC7jST/oGyDq+WU= =p+gl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2--926596409-- From ben@nostrum.com Tue Jul 17 14:34:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BCB11E80AD for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:34:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.57 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FAHM7jXdSaRi for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2514811E80A4 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.9] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6HLYp8W098352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:34:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:34:51 -0500 Message-Id: To: XMPP Group Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1280) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1280) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [xmpp] Draft XMPP Agenda for IETF84 X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:34:05 -0000 Hi, The draft XMPP meeting agenda for Vancouver is available at = http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/agenda/agenda-84-xmpp . Please send = any errors, comments, or potential additions to the chairs as soon as = possible. The final agenda is due Monday. Thanks! Ben.= From stpeter@stpeter.im Fri Jul 20 12:18:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5F621F8564 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:18:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tchf4jR-GqbP for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5C821F855F for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.101.72.115] (unknown [64.101.72.115]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B823940075; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5009AF22.7020400@stpeter.im> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:18:58 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Campbell References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Draft XMPP Agenda for IETF84 X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:18:08 -0000 On 7/17/12 3:34 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Hi, > > The draft XMPP meeting agenda for Vancouver is available at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/agenda/agenda-84-xmpp . Please send any errors, comments, or potential additions to the chairs as soon as possible. The final agenda is due Monday. Looks good. Here are a few slides for the 6122bis discussion: https://stpeter.im/files/ietf84-xmpp-6122bis.pdf Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From ben@nostrum.com Fri Jul 27 12:43:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B18F11E80C1 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FyykOK2tIiKw for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0273911E809B for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.12.11.64] ([4.30.77.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6RJhNdp055134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:43:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:43:23 -0500 To: XMPP Group Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 4.30.77.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [xmpp] Minute Taker and Jabber Scribe X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:43:35 -0000 Hi Everyone, We look forward to seeing people at the XMPP meeting at IETF84 in = Vancouver. Is anyone willing to volunteer to take minutes and/or act as the jabber = scribe? Advance volunteers are extra appreciated, since they help us get = on to business during the meeting itself. Otherwise, Joe and I will have = to use up valuable meeting time practicing our sad puppy-dog looks. = Trust me, no one wants to see that :-) Thanks! Ben.= From ben@nostrum.com Mon Jul 30 10:17:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3688C11E8118 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xsIcz+s6rD3L for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C9111E809B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-625b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-625b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.98.91]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q6UHHUp8074601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:17:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1485\)) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:17:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7E820EC3-58C5-42C9-8650-15E7E83A7673@nostrum.com> References: To: XMPP Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1485) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 130.129.98.91 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [xmpp] Minute Taker and Jabber Scribe X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:17:34 -0000 Please? On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Hi Everyone, >=20 > We look forward to seeing people at the XMPP meeting at IETF84 in = Vancouver. >=20 > Is anyone willing to volunteer to take minutes and/or act as the = jabber scribe? Advance volunteers are extra appreciated, since they help = us get on to business during the meeting itself. Otherwise, Joe and I = will have to use up valuable meeting time practicing our sad puppy-dog = looks. Trust me, no one wants to see that :-) >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp