From ben@nostrum.com Thu Sep 6 14:40:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14FF21F8798 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U5WGe8SmAEAN for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D9E21F8776 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.30] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q86LeTxj087009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:40:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:40:50 -0500 References: <20120906002129.10667.70960.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: XMPP Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: Help the NomCom: Nominations and Feedback X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:40:54 -0000 Please help the NomCom in any way you can! Begin forwarded message: > From: NomCom Chair > Subject: Help the NomCom: Nominations and Feedback > Date: September 5, 2012 7:21:29 PM CDT > To: Working Group Chairs > > The IETF Nominations Committee (NomCom) is currently seeking > nominations for individuals to serve on the IESG, IAB, and IAOC. > Additionally, this is an announcement that the NomCom is seeking > feedback on individuals who have accepted nominations for IETF > leadership positions. > > It is very important to the NomCom process that we get input from a > broad spectrum of the community. Therefore, in case members of your > working group do not read the IETF announcement and discussion lists, > the NomCom would appreciate your help in disseminating the following > information. > > The NomCom website contains information about this year's NomCom > including the positions we are seeking to fill, and the qualifications > required for these positions: > > https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2012/ > > The NomCom is accepting nominations until September 24. Nominations > for any position can be made using the following web tool: > > https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2012/nominate > > Feedback about individuals who the NomCom is considering can be > providing using the following web tool: > > https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2012/input > > The feedback tool provides a list of individuals who have agreed to be > considered for each position. We will be updating this list in the coming > weeks as more individuals accept nominations. > > Feedback provided to the NomCom is kept strictly confidential! > > Note that use of the NomCom web tools require an ietf.org (i.e., > datatracker) account. You can create an ietf.org account by visiting the > following URL: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/ > > As an alternative to using the web tools, you can send email to the > NomCom at nomcom12@ietf.org to make a nomination or provide input to > the committee. > > Thank you for your help, > - Matt Lepinski > nomcom-chair@ietf.org From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Sep 18 11:43:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42B621F84F5 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:43:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AJv0pYHTlhS0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA38521F84F1 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.182] (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8D7640DF9 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:44:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5058C0E1.4080806@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:43:45 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP Working Group X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xmpp] additional mapping in 6122bis X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:43:44 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 FYI, I'm working on an revised version of 6122bis to align it with the other PRECIS-related specs. The revisions are small, and I am hoping that this version would be ready for a Working Group Last Call. In Vancouver, the major open issue here seemed to be whether we would apply additional mappings (see draft-yoneya-precis-mappings), especially width mappings (fullwidth/halfwidth) but also locale-specific mappings and the like. Currently, all of the additional mappings are purely optional. For the sake of backward-compatibility, I think the width mappings make sense because in 3920/6122 we used NFKC, which does the width mappings by default, so IMHO applying the width mappings in 6122bis would be sensible. Right now my feeling is that it would be good to change the width mappings from a MAY to a SHOULD but leave any other mappings (e.g., locale-specific mappings) as a MAY. If there are no concerns/objections, I'll incorporate that update in the next revision. Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBYwOEACgkQNL8k5A2w/vzD+gCg8Gxq06fko9zGgyHNm4ppG3gH LJcAnigCCJEMXy5C+Mipoze2fi+0MR4g =Mfmm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Sep 23 11:31:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27ED021F8496; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.109, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UhZEgDmCFVJI; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CD821F847D; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:31:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20120923183115.7824.78675.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:31:15 -0700 Cc: xmpp@ietf.org Subject: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:31:16 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protoco= l Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Addre= ss Format Author(s) : Peter Saint-Andre Filename : draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2012-09-23 Abstract: This document defines the address format for the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), including support for code points outside the ASCII range. This document obsoletes RFC 6122. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From stpeter@stpeter.im Sun Sep 23 11:32:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BB021F8496 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:32:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lUVG6wVWGb2q for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E026721F847D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.197] (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57C9440DA5 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <505F55CF.3070006@stpeter.im> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:32:47 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <20120923183115.7824.78675.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120923183115.7824.78675.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:32:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Relatively minor changes to align with the PRECIS framework spec, and also a more substantive change to recommend mapping of fullwidth and halfwidth characters to their decomposition mappings... On 9/23/12 12:31 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging > and Presence Protocol Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol > (XMPP): Address Format Author(s) : Peter Saint-Andre Filename > : draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04.txt Pages : 21 Date > : 2012-09-23 > > Abstract: This document defines the address format for the > Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), including > support for code points outside the ASCII range. This document > obsoletes RFC 6122. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-04 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBfVc8ACgkQNL8k5A2w/vxtPACg1uLUm/P0tMjmIl5wfT5BgonC pWQAoPKdvqJmRUn1nxd5BzEF3gqiZwt8 =7hYw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Sep 25 14:55:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0FC1F0CBE for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.572 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.572 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5Zc5wTPkiYD for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF361F0C55 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.101.72.41] (unknown [64.101.72.41]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9E3C4009B for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <50622850.7090701@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:55:28 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP Working Group References: <5058C0E1.4080806@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <5058C0E1.4080806@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [xmpp] additional mapping in 6122bis X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:55:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/18/12 12:43 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > FYI, I'm working on an revised version of 6122bis to align it with > the other PRECIS-related specs. The revisions are small, and I am > hoping that this version would be ready for a Working Group Last > Call. > > In Vancouver, the major open issue here seemed to be whether we > would apply additional mappings (see > draft-yoneya-precis-mappings), especially width mappings > (fullwidth/halfwidth) but also locale-specific mappings and the > like. Currently, all of the additional mappings are purely > optional. For the sake of backward-compatibility, I think the width > mappings make sense because in 3920/6122 we used NFKC, which does > the width mappings by default, so IMHO applying the width mappings > in 6122bis would be sensible. Right now my feeling is that it would > be good to change the width mappings from a MAY to a SHOULD but > leave any other mappings (e.g., locale-specific mappings) as a > MAY. I received a message from someone offlist requesting to make this a MUST, not a SHOULD (in order to reduce ambiguity). That makes sense to me. Does anyone have objections to making that change? Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBiKE8ACgkQNL8k5A2w/vzLRQCcCpk3ZYZWq+YKkzTLKSdA0CyA j+AAoOCXL7DG23Gxkjs84Lv1djijcz0f =Y5Fd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----