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On 2012/11/29 23:27, Graham Klyne wrote:

> (FWIW, I thought it was easier to just say "encoded as UTF-8 within XMPP
> streams" than to explain why that's not relevant or out-of-scope.)

It may be easier, but it's technically wrong. This may not hurt here, 
but it may hurt somewhere else down the line because people may get 
confused.

Regards,    Martin.


> So, as Martin says, just "ship it" (with or without the above point).
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On 11/29/12 12:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 11/29/12 7:27 AM, Graham Klyne wrote:
>> On 29/11/2012 04:51, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

<snip/>

>> So, as Martin says, just "ship it" (with or without the above
>> point).
> 
> Done (with the above point).

Registration complete:

http://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/perm/jabber

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FYI, this is your last chance to provide input on this spec. Please send
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Thanks!

Peter

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Dear all,

This message starts two weeks Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on
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(as co-chair of both SIMPLE and XMPP)

This definitely impacts SIMPLE (simple-chat depends on it) , and could =
have implications for XMPP. If you are interested in either or both, =
please send comments If you haven't already done so for this version.  =
If it's fine like it is, that's still a useful comment!

Thanks!

Ben.


On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> =
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> FYI, this is your last chance to provide input on this spec. Please =
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Matt Miller (mamille2) wrote:
> An update to draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype is now available.  The only change is the syntax of the .well-known URI.
>
> < http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype-01 >
>
>
> Enjoy!

Just had a chance to do so again -- some questions:
1) can there be multiple certificates (for rollover) in the file?
2) can the file contain a chain of certificates or is this limited to the
    end entity certificate?
3) is the subject of the certificate(s) fetched checked against RFC 6125?
    If not, wouldn't it be sufficient to compare hashes?
