From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Apr 1 10:56:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4877A1F0CE0 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:56:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bAqDpebYXd4I for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E6B1F0C74 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.129.24.115] (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AC5E40D3A for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5159CA48.9070806@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:56:24 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP Working Group References: <20130401175409.32239.33156.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130401175409.32239.33156.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130401175409.32239.33156.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: Last Call: (The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:56:28 -0000 FYI, since the concept is similar to the WebSocket binding for XMPP... /psa -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Last Call: (The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:54:09 -0700 From: The IESG Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org To: IETF-Announce CC: sipcore@ietf.org The IESG has received a request from the Session Initiation Protocol Core WG (sipcore) to consider the following document: - 'The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-04-15. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract The WebSocket protocol enables two-way realtime communication between clients and servers in web-based applications. This document specifies a WebSocket sub-protocol as a reliable transport mechanism between SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) entities to enable usage of SIP in web-oriented deployments. This document normatively updates RFC 3261. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From ben@nostrum.com Tue Apr 2 15:36:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF6221F8A66 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:36:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PBPjCh9w6IrN for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF83321F8AB0 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r32MaiNY050097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 17:36:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 17:36:44 -0500 To: "XMPP" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:36:51 -0000 Hi, This is a short consensus call on the adoption of = draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a working group draft for our = "server-to-server connection reuse" milestone. If we do so, this will = replace the existing draft-ietf-xmpp-dna. (probably by becoming = draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.) Please note that this adoption is independent from any potential = adoption of draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype or = draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype. We are still exploring where the = work from those drafts should land. Please send yea/nay or other related comments to the XMPP list by the = end of this week. Thanks! Ben.= From ben@nostrum.com Sat Apr 6 15:58:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CDB21F87C5 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:58:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8QJqo1IZsnHC for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:58:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6602221F87B7 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 15:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r36MvvrK004823 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:57:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:57:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> To: "XMPP" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:58:01 -0000 Hi, I received no responses to this consensus call. Normally, I would take this as a sign of disinterest. But I've spoken to = a number of people who support this, and I think we had support in the = room in Orlando. That being said, the official decision lies with the = working group list. So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, = including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the = working group list no later than Friday, 12 April. Thanks! Ben. On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Hi, >=20 > This is a short consensus call on the adoption of = draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a working group draft for our = "server-to-server connection reuse" milestone. If we do so, this will = replace the existing draft-ietf-xmpp-dna. (probably by becoming = draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.) >=20 > Please note that this adoption is independent from any potential = adoption of draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype or = draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype. We are still exploring where the = work from those drafts should land. >=20 > Please send yea/nay or other related comments to the XMPP list by the = end of this week. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp From metajack@gmail.com Sat Apr 6 20:31:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF69021F8DEF for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CTRH4D4smyDJ for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8780421F854F for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id va7so4755717obc.6 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:31:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=g0T1Ce4NPskW86OJXXARO9vXwCqfG5fm0QaLOhjJf5s=; b=s6fJdxoFKLKkyM63dmMHvDwVopYYcoyViwkzQE7L22UOc+YkOz0LU82QCraAv5irBO lXYYTKC1katLkCqigdZHw7vrNDXGnu7NBmQNcJdm8LRJS06/mCyDHPDr2f8jb6ZFqils eoLsU3pOUjBCthJcfmchAYMNC7GaCMb548RuJdW57nSH0mLGGV+z/OF5NZDfQS5yqYEo FiDEEjyOo7i02CLELT3biyEP8c1Z4tTqR91SIKLcH2srqfhNsi/5Z1MYoVssLP62zqYh 7Zd8hCvanDUQymfIMY0P13hU3y7B6vWP5bdydv80bKKdl+U9y2f1r9zCqilDKQbBJsEO W8iA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.102.106 with SMTP id fn10mr7125923obb.85.1365305493089; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 20:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: metajack@gmail.com Received: by 10.60.96.132 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:31:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:31:32 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kJcfq4NEKSRNLIcSJV8EYKUdvII Message-ID: From: Jack Moffitt To: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: XMPP Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 03:31:34 -0000 > Normally, I would take this as a sign of disinterest. But I've spoken to a number of people who support this, and I think we had support in the room in Orlando. That being said, the official decision lies with the working group list. I support adoption. jack. From lance@andyet.net Sat Apr 6 23:56:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6374921F8A84 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:56:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rXxF36+j+lQl for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796AA21F8A7B for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 5so2681275pdd.3 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:56:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=1egiu/etPQ4L3+BcqWIuqE8zjjzCLmD3d/uNbvWtrBk=; b=dBY+27gsP/rfSLVkDdbsD5N1Gv80dT1XGBC5qVRrpAVAHaR5W6zKSyjFGvxPtt22zZ NLtLOs5yqCXPatf4noLLgBXV6ag0txwO9XwQQaqfudsoPlV7SL8dJ+zhj9bP0zioGfTI qYfdJ7A8djaLnfmHqHeQ54z81zLl4VqPWGKCAc9sU68iM9C2YA35BPd9qlbKA+TYkcgy n9ce9QJ4R9H1/oUXaEmvx16OsRN+wB59hVLKSMAG2PyW97ccOwC7Pbayur4+gPYoD6Dk 6ro+vObXQhjpfNCqjdAaobz7erNpq7EiqHD1NGOA+Q7IGoEmazbNROeMBoVqJFE1q6hN VuFA== X-Received: by 10.66.123.105 with SMTP id lz9mr26304109pab.137.1365317799466; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.5] (71-95-126-13.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com. [71.95.126.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id to7sm26788475pab.0.2013.04.06.23.56.37 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Apr 2013 23:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DFEDEDB1-E561-4E00-A2C7-D3E82804DDC3"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Lance Stout In-Reply-To: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:56:40 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> To: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm13WlZTyWwEMqGKIKFfp/Yqgn0bvlz/ieGSXaUPUn2KeX2K2En9lmtl1QD2A8XDP3pA4Y8 Cc: XMPP Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 06:56:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_DFEDEDB1-E561-4E00-A2C7-D3E82804DDC3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, = including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the = working group list no later than Friday, 12 April. 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--Apple-Mail=_DFEDEDB1-E561-4E00-A2C7-D3E82804DDC3-- From zash@zash.se Sun Apr 7 01:59:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72B421F84B2 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:59:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RGH1-a5ehBcw for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphyrna.zash.se (sphyrna.zash.se [IPv6:2001:470:28:559::]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9972721F84A1 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 01:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.43.56] (2.64.74.1.mobile.tre.se [2.64.74.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client 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<98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 OpenPGP: id=B67AD329; url=http://zash.se/~zash/pubkey.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2GRRHLRDHEWXRMMGKSQAN" Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:59:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2GRRHLRDHEWXRMMGKSQAN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013-04-07 00:57, Ben Campbell wrote: > So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, = including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the work= ing group list no later than Friday, 12 April. I support adoption. -- Kim ------enig2GRRHLRDHEWXRMMGKSQAN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJRYTVYAAoJEK3tmne2etMpW5wP/ir5/ANrgmVFMRTn8s8IX31V CexUcaIKBEicROGDZa9M82+hMRAH62L4u7UohfQx5hmsTgUW2hI6XZDzX/R9ybD4 2S3qYxEiVXx7C51fyaPSZj4zollaSKgHDYrWmG5PvZVgewpxdDgTFWRkFy9r/5Dp 7N0CZhA6W8arbgULvuDg+3rnBGEcxcsPn+SADqd8esvUNnWKZUSHcE47YQYgsjKh OEckhSWL8N3sW93MQpccPaDaepaxtXeNGG+d9zuZfm3v7t+j/9BzBAP1wySgis2O eCSWAWXrUKxtI4rlkPMYOYiRLZH1b88/+AzFc2kO1EuBr+7XFbu/EmMCPxF2vmxY 0Z1nuBkI7LXVKOoxqfYCoODxnJxHG49+hhSIcNlduPMfdk2gvIn1OCwD9f9MuV6W qzcRc0YGlCXvRq3IEenQrVLGEWLz9v6Nv5v2YBJKSHbNwu0dFTX1wKkZ7evDa+5m 09bGOc3a6u+o+xrD/n9LmO40TzahSsY2D2Cpb5RZ7yBoPnscTmr9cjzqU8zHRvkg S1OIJ6p44L4a2KWv6++q5tMx1Io8o1HzGM0LarVEiuP/4rEPFcuI0HF57v1r7FQN 6OisGDthQrheCB83X1YaTWUMr9Ue67GGTqBqGdB96i5+xetr+Y7JS7maJCVmu6PV tV2PlGOSQGIzWGcOcLtS =+fs5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2GRRHLRDHEWXRMMGKSQAN-- From lbxmpp@live.com Sun Apr 7 17:49:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC9F21F87D0 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 17:49:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zRHloLLU4foe for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 17:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blu0-omc1-s24.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s24.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C910021F8733 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 17:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP300 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s24.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 7 Apr 2013 17:49:32 -0700 X-EIP: [3SZlZy9g1u9fTFlN6f6QDHPXZNzE62F4] X-Originating-Email: [lbxmpp@live.com] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.0.8] ([78.232.160.30]) by BLU0-SMTP300.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 7 Apr 2013 17:49:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 02:49:28 +0200 From: Ludovic BOCQUET User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020309040407070206040900" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Apr 2013 00:49:31.0457 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE5E1B10:01CE33F2] Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 00:49:35 -0000 --------------ms020309040407070206040900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support adoption. BOCQUET Ludovic An XSF member XMPP Standards Foundation http://xmpp.org/ Le 07/04/2013 00:57, Ben Campbell a =E9crit : > Hi, > > I received no responses to this consensus call. > > Normally, I would take this as a sign of disinterest. But I've spoken t= o a number of people who support this, and I think we had support in the = room in Orlando. That being said, the official decision lies with the wor= king group list. > > So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, = including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the work= ing group list no later than Friday, 12 April. > > Thanks! > > Ben. > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is a short consensus call on the adoption of draft-saintandre-xmp= p-dna as a working group draft for our "server-to-server connection reuse= " milestone. If we do so, this will replace the existing draft-ietf-xmpp-= dna. 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--------------ms020309040407070206040900-- From mwild1@gmail.com Mon Apr 8 03:40:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D3A21F936D for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 03:40:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4KnJKcpHoQLF for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 03:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C337821F8D8E for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 03:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hv10so641255vcb.37 for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 03:40:35 -0700 (PDT) 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Message-ID: To: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: XMPP Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 10:40:36 -0000 On 2 April 2013 23:36, Ben Campbell wrote: > Hi, > > This is a short consensus call on the adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-d= na as a working group draft for our "server-to-server connection reuse" mil= estone. If we do so, this will replace the existing draft-ietf-xmpp-dna. (p= robably by becoming draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.) > > Please note that this adoption is independent from any potential adoption= of draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype or draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype.= We are still exploring where the work from those drafts should land. I agree with the more modular approach taken by this document, and I believe it provides necessary documentation on integrating alternative prooftypes into the authentication flow that is not available in RFC 6120. Therefore I support adoption, and the replacement of draft-ietf-xmpp-dna. Regards, Matthew From fippo@goodadvice.pages.de Tue Apr 9 10:31:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF85D21F9022 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:31:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7cKFN2ZF5Qp for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lo.psyced.org (lost.IN.psyced.org [188.40.42.221]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A2E21F89BA for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lo.psyced.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lo.psyced.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r39HVe4V001910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:31:40 +0200 Received: from localhost (fippo@localhost) by lo.psyced.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id r39HVecU001906 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:31:40 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: lo.psyced.org: fippo owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:31:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Philipp Hancke X-X-Sender: fippo@lo.psyced.org To: xmpp@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> Message-ID: References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:31:55 -0000 > So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the working group list no later than Friday, 12 April. yea, it looks like a good starting point for intense discussion. From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Apr 9 12:10:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D2E21F98A6 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOTtW51PfQMN for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5A321F9613 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BB3C240D1E; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <516467A7.70104@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:10:31 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philipp Hancke References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: xmpp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:10:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 4/9/13 11:31 AM, Philipp Hancke wrote: >> So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send >> comments, including "I support adoption" or "I do not support >> adoption" to the working group list no later than Friday, 12 >> April. > > yea, it looks like a good starting point for intense discussion. Strange, I saw it as an intense starting point for good discussion. :P Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRZGenAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pTEkQAIhDU2rv1vywKIHFn1b14+je +7dBDry54dUgbquGs5IXy3DPDo1VbLPp82kMO3v0cr2R3dvgeP9SWOZmc9556BmE gsVjkW1kyRIAmqdKHKUBV+V/oyJdqDAE12XB/8CRIosRsDWQhxvz0MHMx8BPYnTY IZ5b8vjCUC/TlNoJBNyIBG1BBH/z1DxOAnVOFH0IK8+t5wLdCIwX64TkDh9tMHaO EfLLSalUpby/ePtjsO8pk3o8egqiWXz+mimwmP5cmlOE6u0R6uOHcueNdrjYvhVc UpqOYobtHkyA3wOi04uxjhp/d67FbkWP5a21fIuf7H64TACJQc9Jk2N8bt0DH4hO x1q4cnrfsWRxxpWawDc2ZkI0vcZNX2oVS8RCVC6tGtqLI3CLGWYX+b2CIV252xu+ LwPDfd5Tzd8IvK4WZud0O6H+CMQPNiTOIGML2HnMtcZeLcMaXvZNjRrpuv0OiN3b jcA/Zr3LfVeoT8QQfN/U3xQOxJh18Bjku8yJIjofH+PnxptIHdJSN7yIrtbQkaMu U/XyPU8MIKwUmjv/GA3SxOyVjNT5sdj/N/nI1re8i2kjTG9WTXHOF4vpFYzBM+77 M627891h5f7OBxSqNCR3/XGewA2PS2oj6LQqA2JBUDkvyhdexw1Gq1sJ/rvCzAhv +O0jOyrvNWp3PQ5TuZL0 =dL00 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dave@cridland.net Tue Apr 9 14:39:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6216821F9985 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YTBM-U-FHTR1 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x234.google.com (mail-ob0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A89C21F997C for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id un3so3188846obb.39 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cridland.net; s=google; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2bbtoreFVCS2IA+PWvu+lR8nFCt7sDBcwYIAAfeYqDo=; b=f4XfLt3ZrgSSWhmSH+vCppJKcE6lFEakV2kya7EAiV0dJyhs/U2Neg82Dn2YcEqPrY LF5NL8GrgzMgylGjvNUUcC040ZWD/Y53xz//C8cRc6EAJcooCKcp/jS8s2Z42mCp2C2Y ah/lSk5KgIBUqYo+V6Tquwj2zsughWGME1Eak= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=2bbtoreFVCS2IA+PWvu+lR8nFCt7sDBcwYIAAfeYqDo=; b=jIwUAsXM7wGOv1UMon5GDA7T3OyBbTX32YlBWhAle1zpR3jELF+KyB4IqzPhQiOg65 zX3jOWT8vk8O5poFyuKWAxZucX6gwV1A/b79bOsZKrBbrSwqlViukC8Mgh6sfkx0pdT1 gJ/SC5RkHlz5xR5q7jG7lYotxK0IfI9blvIsw+GjuRZiCA6VzXUoNASsS4lqOeWTSYdK E9Up+jWhZa7WJU7bdrzSdyleG8SAa1dGkarKISYfkSelVdWapM+vqNMI2cvE+C7VZf+4 zDM4hh2DE9eSAkb/tuMVdqsWVyXDm0iXu+gqQbfYsdCSht5pjqYPi1gWWJR52HOthmG+ oHTQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.54.6 with SMTP id f6mr12899927oep.136.1365543575750; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.22.105 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.22.105 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <516467A7.70104@stpeter.im> References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> <516467A7.70104@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 22:39:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Cridland To: Peter Saint-Andre Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011763b9c21dd104d9f463ce X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlhhpvZqZaGT4U8xkq+CtaHSj9As8+Ok/YTtqsls3WmlLz1wPxHqul3gwENhY0pV3LNWRCu Cc: Philipp Hancke , XMPP Working Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:39:37 -0000 --089e011763b9c21dd104d9f463ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I support adoption, and see it as a good way of starting pointed discussion in tents. On 9 Apr 2013 20:10, "Peter Saint-Andre" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 4/9/13 11:31 AM, Philipp Hancke wrote: > >> So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send > >> comments, including "I support adoption" or "I do not support > >> adoption" to the working group list no later than Friday, 12 > >> April. > > > > yea, it looks like a good starting point for intense discussion. > > Strange, I saw it as an intense starting point for good discussion. :P > > Peter > > - -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRZGenAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pTEkQAIhDU2rv1vywKIHFn1b14+je > +7dBDry54dUgbquGs5IXy3DPDo1VbLPp82kMO3v0cr2R3dvgeP9SWOZmc9556BmE > gsVjkW1kyRIAmqdKHKUBV+V/oyJdqDAE12XB/8CRIosRsDWQhxvz0MHMx8BPYnTY > IZ5b8vjCUC/TlNoJBNyIBG1BBH/z1DxOAnVOFH0IK8+t5wLdCIwX64TkDh9tMHaO > EfLLSalUpby/ePtjsO8pk3o8egqiWXz+mimwmP5cmlOE6u0R6uOHcueNdrjYvhVc > UpqOYobtHkyA3wOi04uxjhp/d67FbkWP5a21fIuf7H64TACJQc9Jk2N8bt0DH4hO > x1q4cnrfsWRxxpWawDc2ZkI0vcZNX2oVS8RCVC6tGtqLI3CLGWYX+b2CIV252xu+ > LwPDfd5Tzd8IvK4WZud0O6H+CMQPNiTOIGML2HnMtcZeLcMaXvZNjRrpuv0OiN3b > jcA/Zr3LfVeoT8QQfN/U3xQOxJh18Bjku8yJIjofH+PnxptIHdJSN7yIrtbQkaMu > U/XyPU8MIKwUmjv/GA3SxOyVjNT5sdj/N/nI1re8i2kjTG9WTXHOF4vpFYzBM+77 > M627891h5f7OBxSqNCR3/XGewA2PS2oj6LQqA2JBUDkvyhdexw1Gq1sJ/rvCzAhv > +O0jOyrvNWp3PQ5TuZL0 > =dL00 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp > --089e011763b9c21dd104d9f463ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I support adoption, and see it as a good way of starting poi= nted discussion in tents.

On 9 Apr 2013 20:10, "Peter Saint-Andre&quo= t; <stpeter@stpeter.im> wro= te:
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On 4/9/13 11:31 AM, Philipp Hancke wrote:
>> So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send >> comments, including "I support adoption" or "I do n= ot support
>> adoption" to the working group list no later than Friday, 12<= br> >> April.
>
> yea, it looks like a good starting point for intense discussion.

Strange, I saw it as an intense starting point for good discussion. :P

Peter

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--089e011763b9c21dd104d9f463ce-- From rlb@ipv.sx Fri Apr 12 13:37:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D63021F8581 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:37:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.425 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.425 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yM4T79bbX+j5 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAF521F84DF for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id eh20so2730278obb.17 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:37:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=/A9oVh41RZmH/KFRtglKpgfrI9xev+nrmOd/59NFEb4=; b=mS0r4Tp+Phg/BfNKQJJ0AA1vM8K9vcBAj1oSuIcC8IhHhPvQCdno42swXZDSdxykL0 PM+MJPLh8f4Z4oGvvY3FpbnpQiM57ZyrhQd1bYk0DRO2f2NYodJ6MZhX78u2SmFHGqwB QSvEMw4RGXW3Ulke7Q5jv5WbiNQlOVnOPhEdBs/YeIlqsoMIWslwSSy6BpISGYGRu46H bRtiVxnvLKtGGsFVf29kOgNrbRlvxL00fAWm8XnOF/EvRnWAEvHIz5QUviAiF5n2fSDh FdpXwjZ84WruTwT1f2B2mBi85Re3q4qTd2n8MZPhgY9OgZ6WJHEkKzcVM9HZChsNIZyf gaeQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.15.98 with SMTP id w2mr4527063oec.128.1365799069816; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.25.196 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [192.1.51.16] In-Reply-To: <514238A2.2030905@jonkri.com> References: <512CC832.1060702@jonkri.com> <512E94A2.8000900@jonkri.com> <512FD6DB.40304@jonkri.com> <5130BB49.20100@jonkri.com> <5133C874.7080801@jonkri.com> <514138E3.4090105@jonkri.com> <514238A2.2030905@jonkri.com> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:37:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Jon Kristensen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a0a1e64296704da2fe068 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQknN/uu8cGXGoRI9Mg1ZKW2pGAARDvBSW8vfC2rOKXzEh5gYcVOYEwJIfaBttb+a/Uo/Mj8 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [xmpp] Anonymity and PFR with Miller's E2E proposal (Was: Self Introduction) X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:37:51 -0000 --089e013a0a1e64296704da2fe068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Jon, Sorry for the late reply. If you're interested in DH for JWK, I would suggest sending a message to the JOSE mailing list. Other than that, your syntax looks OK to me, although I would just use standard letters, like "p" for "prime" and "g" for "generator". Also, as to the IPR on ECC, there's some story about how to do it IPR-free: Best, --Richard On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Jon Kristensen wrote: > On 03/14/2013 06:39 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > It's even simpler than that: Alice and Bob each generate a JWK > representing a DH or ECDH key, the exchange them in an IQ. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-08 > > > Thank you for pointing me in the right direction! > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I see it is this: > > In order to provide authentication and (weak) anonymity, we would have to > exchange > > 1. unauthenticated Diffie-Hellman key exchange stanzas, > used to negotiate a first shared secret, and > 2. encrypted (with the first shared secret) stanzas (which > wraps the long-lived public keys) to negotiate a second shared secret. > > The second shared secret would be the symmetric key used for encrypting > the following stanzas. This would protect the long-lived public key from a > passive attacker, and provide perfect forward secrecy. Also, any entity > could perform additional unauthenticated Diffie-Hellman key exchanges (this > time, however, encrypted) to redo the procedure, and add yet another "PFS > layer". > > As there seems to be some patent-related uncertainty surrounding elliptic > curve cryptography[1], I would like to see support for regular > Diffie-Hellman keys. > > Looking at the IANA JSON Web Key Types registry key types[2], there appear > to only be two key types defined: `EC' (Elliptic Curve [DSS] key type) and > `RSA' (RFC3447 key type). Could perhaps `DH' be added to this table? > > Would `alg' (refer to the the JSON Web Encryption algorithm section[3]) be > something like `DH+A128KW'? > > All-in-all, would something like the following JWK representation be > suitable for the Diffie-Hellman public key exchanges? > > { > "kty": "DH", > "public-key": "...", > "prime": "...", > "generator": "...", > "use": "enc", > "alg": "DH+A128KW" > } > > [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_patents > [2]: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-algorithms-08#section-5.1 > [3]: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose-json-web-algorithms-08#section-4.1 > > Jon > --089e013a0a1e64296704da2fe068 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jon,

Sorry for the late reply. =A0If you're inte= rested in DH for JWK, I would suggest sending a message to the JOSE mailing= list. =A0Other than that, your syntax looks OK to me, although I would jus= t use standard letters, like "p" for "prime" and "= g" for "generator". =A0

Also, as to the IPR on ECC, there's some story abou= t how to do it IPR-free: <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6090>

Best,<= /div>
--Richard




<= br>
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Jon Kristens= en <info@jonkri.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 03/14/2013 06:39 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:
It's even simpler=A0than that: Alice and Bob each generate a JWK representing a DH or ECDH key, the exchange them in an IQ.=A0


Thank you for pointing me in the right direction!

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I see it is this:

In order to provide authentication and (weak) anonymity, we would have to exchange
  1. unauthenticated Diffie-Hellman key exchange <keyreq /> stanzas, used to negotiate a first shared secret, and
  2. encrypted (with the first shared secret) <keyreq /> stanzas (which wraps the long-lived public keys) to negotiate a second shared secret.
The second shared secret would be the symmetric key used for encrypting the following stanzas. This would protect the long-lived public key from a passive attacker, and provide perfect forward secrecy. Also, any entity could perform additional unauthenticated Diffie-Hellman key exchanges (this time, however, encrypted) to redo the procedure, and add yet another "PFS layer= ".

As there seems to be some patent-related uncertainty surrounding elliptic curve cryptography[1], I would like to see support for regular Diffie-Hellman keys.

Looking at the IANA JSON Web Key Types registry key types[2], there appear to only be two key types defined: `EC' (Elliptic Curve [DSS] key type) and `RSA' (RFC3447 key type). Could perhaps `DH' be added to this table?

Would `alg' (refer to the the JSON Web Encryption algorithm section[3]) be something like `DH+A128KW'?

All-in-all, would something like the following JWK representation be suitable for the Diffie-Hellman public key exchanges?

{
=A0 "kty": "DH",
=A0 "public-key": "...",
=A0 "prime": "...",
=A0 "generator": "...",
=A0 "use": "enc",
=A0 "alg": "DH+A128KW"
}

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECC_patents
[2]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose= -json-web-algorithms-08#section-5.1
[3]: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-jose= -json-web-algorithms-08#section-4.1

Jon

--089e013a0a1e64296704da2fe068-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Apr 15 15:34:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E7121E8049 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:34:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KuJJuy2Fbtby for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E297C21E8048 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D86740FB6 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <516C8083.7090709@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:34:43 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP References: <20130415223204.13792.56591.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130415223204.13792.56591.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130415223204.13792.56591.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:34:48 -0000 FYI. Mostly small fixes, plus an update to reference draft-ietf-dane-srv instead of draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype, as discussed in Orlando. Peter -------- Original Message -------- Subject: I-D Action: draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02.txt Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:32:04 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Domain Name Associations (DNA) in the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) Author(s) : Peter Saint-Andre Matthew Miller Filename : draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2013-04-15 Abstract: This document improves the security of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) in two ways. First, it specifies how "prooftypes" can establish a strong association between a domain name and an XML stream. Second, it describes how to securely delegate a source domain to a derived domain, which is especially important in virtual hosting environments. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From ben@nostrum.com Mon Apr 15 18:18:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE29121F93E1 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:18:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1t2g6hyCXm-A for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA2521F8E2C for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r3G1It8A054481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:18:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 20:18:54 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> To: "XMPP" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:18:57 -0000 Hi Everyone, We've had several speak in favor of adoption, and unless I missed = something, none against. Please consider the draft adopted as a working = group item towards our shared server milestone.=20 Authors, please resubmit as draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02 as soon as is = convenient. Thanks! Ben. On Apr 6, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I received no responses to this consensus call. >=20 > Normally, I would take this as a sign of disinterest. But I've spoken = to a number of people who support this, and I think we had support in = the room in Orlando. That being said, the official decision lies with = the working group list. >=20 > So I'm extending the consensus for another week. Please send comments, = including "I support adoption" or "I do not support adoption" to the = working group list no later than Friday, 12 April. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. >=20 > On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> This is a short consensus call on the adoption of = draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a working group draft for our = "server-to-server connection reuse" milestone. If we do so, this will = replace the existing draft-ietf-xmpp-dna. (probably by becoming = draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.) >>=20 >> Please note that this adoption is independent from any potential = adoption of draft-miller-xmpp-posh-prooftype or = draft-miller-xmpp-dnssec-prooftype. We are still exploring where the = work from those drafts should land. >>=20 >> Please send yea/nay or other related comments to the XMPP list by the = end of this week. >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >> Ben. >> _______________________________________________ >> xmpp mailing list >> xmpp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp >=20 > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Apr 15 18:38:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4932921E8039 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:38:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kQKMPC1cdgUj for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C156721E8037 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57D2040F97; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:48:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <516CAB98.4060903@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:38:32 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Campbell References: <52FFD20C-D8BD-4750-8313-CDCA2894F7F1@nostrum.com> <98100AA4-8FA1-41E8-9636-6CCAB0AAA3B7@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: XMPP Subject: Re: [xmpp] Adoption of draft-saintandre-xmpp-dna as a work group item X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 01:38:35 -0000 On 4/15/13 7:18 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > We've had several speak in favor of adoption, and unless I missed something, none against. Please consider the draft adopted as a working group item towards our shared server milestone. > > Authors, please resubmit as draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02 as soon as is convenient. Will do. Peter From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Apr 15 19:58:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613ED21F937E; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:58:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GsbW0VRT--hb; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CD021F934C; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:58:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.43.p4 Message-ID: <20130416025831.30411.8459.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:58:31 -0700 Cc: xmpp@ietf.org Subject: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 02:58:32 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protoco= l Working Group of the IETF. Title : Domain Name Associations (DNA) in the Extensible Messagi= ng and Presence Protocol (XMPP) Author(s) : Peter Saint-Andre Matthew Miller Filename : draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2013-04-15 Abstract: This document improves the security of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) in two ways. First, it specifies how "prooftypes" can establish a strong association between a domain name and an XML stream. Second, it describes how to securely delegate a source domain to a derived domain, which is especially important in virtual hosting environments. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-dna There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-xmpp-dna-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Apr 16 13:19:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57B21F977F for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XNCWdJBeBpkf for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127EC21F96D6 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 997CE4056A for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <516DB239.1080503@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 14:19:05 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP References: <20130416200759.31647.61662.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130416200759.31647.61662.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130416200759.31647.61662.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: Last Call: (Instant Messaging and Presence Purpose for the Call-Info Header Field in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:19:11 -0000 Perhaps of interest here... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Last Call: (Instant Messaging and Presence Purpose for the Call-Info Header Field in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:07:59 -0700 From: The IESG Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org To: IETF-Announce The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Instant Messaging and Presence Purpose for the Call-Info Header Field in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-05-14. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines and registers a value of "impp" ("instant messaging and presence protocol") for the "purpose" header field parameter of the Call-Info header field in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP). The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-impp-call-info/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-impp-call-info/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Apr 16 16:32:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD2221F96BC for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LHD7zl4Sq2M7 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8289B21F96B1 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [71.237.13.154]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73AEE40C6B for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:42:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <516DDF85.5020700@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:32:21 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xmpp] 6122bis: leading and trailing whitespace X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:32:23 -0000 Going through old email, I found a note to myself sent during IETF 86 about adding something to 6122bis about leading and trailing whitespace. This must refer to handling of resourceparts (since the PRECIS IdentifierClass does not allow spaces), and in fact I thought we had added something about that long ago but I don't find it in 6122bis. However, draft-ietf-precis-nickname does contain such text: 4. Leading and trailing whitespace (i.e., one or more instances of the ASCII space character at the beginning or end of a nickname) MUST be removed (e.g., "stpeter " is mapped to "stpeter"). It seems like good advice in general for resourceparts. Does anyone have objections to adding it? Peter From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Apr 25 20:23:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AB921F8C14; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:23:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.335 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.335 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.265, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vuda1GMZIjBP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B83521E803D; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:23:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.44.p4 Message-ID: <20130426032330.1988.74296.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:23:30 -0700 Cc: xmpp@ietf.org Subject: [xmpp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-07.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 03:23:34 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protoco= l Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Addre= ss Format Author(s) : Peter Saint-Andre Filename : draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-07.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2013-04-25 Abstract: This document defines the address format for the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP), including support for code points outside the ASCII range. This document obsoletes RFC 6122. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis-07 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From hammondjohnson@hushmail.com Sat Apr 27 14:06:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD48F21F9917 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:06:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XljNWp42PRfJ for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE8021F9946 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EA548E7D29 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) X-hush-relay-time: 215 X-hush-relay-id: b1bd903faba185ee07e5a0ed3a1fde37 Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w5.hushmail.com [65.39.178.80]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id AC52AE6736; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:56:53 -0400 To: xmpp@ietf.org From: hammondjohnson@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20130427175653.AC52AE6736@smtp.hushmail.com> Subject: [xmpp] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:07:00 -0000 We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: (1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa (2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic (3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance (4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model (5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer (6). Laptop is an example for a super computer (7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning. However, it was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP. DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers about WORLDCOMP. The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever! Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. The draft paper submission deadline is over but still there are no committee members, no reviewers, and there is no conference Chairman. The only contact details available on WORLDCOMP’s website is just an email address! Let us make a direct request to Prof. Hamid arabnia: publish all reviews for all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 2000 conference. Reveal the names and affiliations of all the reviewers (for each year) and how many papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. We also request him to look at the Open Challenge (Section 6) at https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and people. We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com Search Google using the keyword worldcomp fake for additional links.