From ben@nostrum.com Tue Aug 20 15:05:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE9511E82E9 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:05:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rmh1qcED-Bwt for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E97A11E82E8 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.9] (cpe-76-187-89-238.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.89.238]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r7KM5eOq080175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:05:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) From: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:05:41 -0500 To: XMPP Group Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 76.187.89.238 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Subject: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:05:43 -0000 (as chair) Hi, The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket = subprotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual = milestone--the chairs have been remiss on updating those. But it's in = the charter text, really! ) Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've had = a fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list. Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 = as a work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that = acceptance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely = correct or complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a = good start towards the milestone. Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next = week (31 Aug 2013.) Thanks! Ben.= From bernard.aboba@gmail.com Tue Aug 20 15:11:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0B011E82F3 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:11:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AyrYkgghVt8V for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22a.google.com (mail-qa0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F17511E82E8 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id bv4so13813qab.15 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:10:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=b6HindYu4y/qBsJdYG6qO6WCHwGL/27xAuNJT1/bL1Q=; b=hM7P22UYyb0Jvy5cB0A/0QYZ9VUFvzMj8/Av+5OQvguxyHKJge9N4WHZ9h3s/yEj7M wEo4ySUvCSRA+4KtiSaL9h8rw7i2NGiWNTUGPPqVbH4HfKywvyA6+88g6DeotqEnSufz hsvALv9qck3xhFG9HRhf6P1Xqm8zozWYTj8PuVatH0uIx9QPe1D/uLnAAJ3MypuVMfQV VcEC8pQ0kJjCcBNTBJlXzjW43r0x9O2gV1Y7lyc35xRMZAgQusT/jg74RPlnMraHy36L K87yDOYv1hcBqpSXxirabpZNukwvqEyW4zV1SmElI38HT3ue4XYfuYPIO6Fj1PRhWRc1 BcNg== X-Received: by 10.49.36.196 with SMTP id s4mr4288231qej.95.1377036654806; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:10:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.52.103 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:10:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> From: Bernard Aboba Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:10:34 -0700 Message-ID: To: Ben Campbell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b678846a70f6604e46854f1 Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:11:15 -0000 --047d7b678846a70f6604e46854f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, it should be adopted. There are implementations out there (some out of sync with the latest version of the spec). So if the work is completed, there is a very high probability it will be used. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > (as chair) > > Hi, > > The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket > subprotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual milestone--the > chairs have been remiss on updating those. But it's in the charter text, > really! ) > > Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've had a > fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list. > > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as > a work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that > acceptance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely > correct or complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a good > start towards the milestone. > > Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next > week (31 Aug 2013.) > > Thanks! > > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp > --047d7b678846a70f6604e46854f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, it should be adopted.=A0 There are implementations ou= t there (some out of sync with the latest version of the spec).=A0 So if th= e work is completed, there is a very high probability it will be used.
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On Tue, Aug 2= 0, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> (as chair)

Hi,

The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket subp= rotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual milestone--the chair= s have been remiss on updating those. But it's in the charter text, rea= lly! )

Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've ha= d a fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list.

Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a= work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that accept= ance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely correct or= complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a good start tow= ards the milestone.

Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next week= (31 Aug 2013.)

Thanks!

Ben.
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--047d7b678846a70f6604e46854f1-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Aug 20 15:19:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4EB11E810B for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.454 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.454 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gz73TkcyA0my for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D781111E82C1 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc-vpn7-904.cisco.com (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF331414E7; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5213EB50.3030901@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:18:56 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Campbell References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:19:06 -0000 On 8/20/13 4:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > Should the XMPP work group accept > draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support > of the chartered work? Yes. There are already implementations of XMPP over WebSocket and we need to publish a stable specification so that developers can code support for this feature in a consistent way. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From metajack@gmail.com Tue Aug 20 15:39:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749A111E82F4 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:39:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.978 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.978 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K7E4REzPz6bU for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1253A11E810B for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn12so862455obc.20 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wdhFl70KCDq6TGt9NO+odBOqwuHXkmylE/5h6FpIrfM=; b=G/va+mekQs0dYQQTHCBqOMbXzh69KfscjeHRv16DRvxHDWcPAiLzbOagGPEz/6XDjJ 2SvOBPF0gZq5aQr4Yc3/KAHY2BN2o/lzOwg+NGhgjIEidqSujgd+NS3CiF53QLm+eO+I gKsaqO1tKao9cIc2GOp2AEl8YZu/S7OR5co2WuxqbRRpr7S8aT2+Votk6NN7oJEWmc9a xyIHTmUGk5GQTr3cYd/KTdMI5/tf0ewPZn1uRRmhgUPpZk5ibr/IZcMq6NZVOBgA9CUK UKJSMuV1LW6xkJxqs4naw+UqrHuoSXvFQLRCdpIlYfaduC8djTB9voATK+AvnXEHQjc/ 9tNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.22.5 with SMTP id z5mr4300585obe.42.1377038347593; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: metajack@gmail.com Received: by 10.60.46.105 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:39:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5213EB50.3030901@stpeter.im> References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> <5213EB50.3030901@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:39:07 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: WcOiMnDubPIqKh3gKvgbezr90k4 Message-ID: From: Jack Moffitt To: Peter Saint-Andre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:39:08 -0000 >> Should the XMPP work group accept >> draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support >> of the chartered work? Yes. jack. 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I'm biased, but I second adoption. -- Lance --Apple-Mail=_D1D4B5B2-E0EB-43EF-B49A-FCA99102A172 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIM5jCCBjQw ggQcoAMCAQICASAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwfTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0 Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNpZ25pbmcxKTAn BgNVBAMTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTA3MTAyNDIxMDI1NVoX DTE3MTAyNDIxMDI1NVowgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSsw KQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFy dENvbSBDbGFzcyAyIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRlIENsaWVudCBDQTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAMsohUWcASz7GfKrpTOMKqANy9BV7V0igWdGxA8IU77L3aTxErQ+ fcxtDYZ36Z6GH0YFn7fq5RADteP0AYzrCA+EQTfi8q1+kA3m0nwtwXG94M5sIqsvs7lRP1aycBke 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-0400 Message-ID: From: bear To: XMPP Group Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b604d02b6cd6404e46c2e53 Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:46:47 -0000 --047d7b604d02b6cd6404e46c2e53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > (as chair) > > Hi, > > The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket > subprotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual milestone--the > chairs have been remiss on updating those. But it's in the charter text, > really! ) > > Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've had a > fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list. > > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as > a work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that > acceptance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely > correct or complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a good > start towards the milestone. > > +1 to acceptance > Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next > week (31 Aug 2013.) > > Thanks! > > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > xmpp mailing list > xmpp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/xmpp > -- Bear bear@xmpp.org (email) bear42@gmail.com (xmpp, email) bear@code-bear.com (xmpp, email) http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 --047d7b604d02b6cd6404e46c2e53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wr= ote:
(as chair)

Hi,

The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket subp= rotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual milestone--the chair= s have been remiss on updating those. But it's in the charter text, rea= lly! )

Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've ha= d a fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list.

Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a= work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that accept= ance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely correct or= complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a good start tow= ards the milestone.


+1 to acceptance
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Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next week= (31 Aug 2013.)

Thanks!

Ben.
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--047d7b604d02b6cd6404e46c2e53-- From fippo@goodadvice.pages.de Tue Aug 20 21:16:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA1A11E835F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OpTZKepMWJ1a for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lo.psyced.org (lost.IN.psyced.org [188.40.42.221]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAA111E8166 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lo.psyced.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lo.psyced.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r7L4FsWD031701 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:15:54 +0200 Received: from localhost (fippo@localhost) by lo.psyced.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id r7L4Frtm031697; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:15:54 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: lo.psyced.org: fippo owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:15:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Philipp Hancke X-X-Sender: fippo@lo.psyced.org To: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> Message-ID: References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 04:16:17 -0000 > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support of the chartered work? Yes, it's a good start. From florob@babelmonkeys.de Wed Aug 21 05:06:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD8D11E8203 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:06:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G6FZK7kPxBjg for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babelmonkeys.de (babelmonkeys.de [IPv6:2a02:d40:3:1:10a1:5eff:fe52:509]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA75E11E81ED for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [134.130.62.162] by babelmonkeys.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VC7CU-0003pR-T0 for xmpp@ietf.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:07:46 +0200 Message-ID: <5214AD54.7010606@babelmonkeys.de> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:06:44 +0200 From: Florian Zeitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130806 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:06:47 -0000 Am 21.08.2013 00:05, schrieb Ben Campbell: > (as chair) > > Hi, > > The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket subprotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual milestone--the chairs have been remiss on updating those. But it's in the charter text, really! ) > > Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've had a fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list. > > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that acceptance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely correct or complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a good start towards the milestone. > +1 to adopting this document. I've written an implementation based on this and deem it a good starting point. > Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next week (31 Aug 2013.) > > Thanks! > > Ben. From zash@zash.se Wed Aug 21 05:24:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F18811E8209 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOQGdEw2UoDj for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.zash.se (ip66.hethane.riksnet.nu [85.11.25.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6392E11E80D2 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:16d8:ffc6:0:d968:60dd:db15:240e] (unknown [IPv6:2001:16d8:ffc6:0:d968:60dd:db15:240e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zash) by mail.zash.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 760B460527 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:23:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5214B153.5040201@zash.se> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:23:47 +0200 From: Kim Alvefur User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130804 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 OpenPGP: id=B67AD329; url=http://zash.se/~zash/pubkey.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ewXA0aobfMcOIq3ODB0sqb2KqNMbI2tfT" Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:24:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ewXA0aobfMcOIq3ODB0sqb2KqNMbI2tfT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013-08-21 00:05, Ben Campbell wrote: > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 = as a work group item in support of the chartered work? +1 -- Kim Alvefur --ewXA0aobfMcOIq3ODB0sqb2KqNMbI2tfT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSFLFTAAoJEK3tmne2etMpWkwQAIBP1LP2A1Xb8X4rzVGqrz7Z Id/JljNunG2PHsCNWtz5YARtkWcKnca73/wNxVhjse2GFYHycgYM9llm0ECFYpi0 XfVgYWmda32El0n1Bx2pXudyZDWc94JYIu0b2qeI17HVVXq8htgPZoUzo0jpi2B5 /dKqnmif69Brm6pWyGf9G3BY1Mqs88IRLZJQuKnbhqqt95oNTBTC1Q4fCWTqP7kt aVlnms+k1UTvH/C1meFZIlnJ7/a/XDUMQMWj8A5nKFlGr8asbRQ/0/9d79tGhwC1 y67B5TndDyXC+4EG+VlcnEOwJhgNeC2yr2eJWxi0JlvoT+0+GtwLmE85pkIx3XzB Ph7WTbxetVkeckJ+dcpfK8WvKOQWgk/xKMhAeQu/clx2wstgPAMkAFftEnd9sIf7 KEnaQSlSXDufGLjlUSMpjbC/MhIMJWCtFhe7AkSPk+k6NLf4YuWr2OXpEnRyrWTl Ef/J9JV2CQ/jRv6vhtQ1eLay7FgOjUcIOaXyUU0+JlGZXmm/NErptDIZIXXm29og 1yu2rtLHg8fQnvEPZRUOWyqE2CzP3NrMLUgYnzfA/8886SUDuZbFsDTAO5JbebQz 5jVJ1X0SY+kRdAYhoJo4g0j3jDSTl0txs7eRyFyYMEc/sq9kiJqzPQhznaS6qAK/ mhTCvH+dkUwN5ZH/FcV6 =b4AD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ewXA0aobfMcOIq3ODB0sqb2KqNMbI2tfT-- From ralphm@ik.nu Wed Aug 21 05:48:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DA111E8392 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:48:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e1wGCtgPilq9 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.ik.nu (mag.ik.nu [83.98.201.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEF811E8394 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mag.ik.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mag.ik.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2990CA102A for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:47:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ik.nu Received: from mag.ik.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by mag.ik.nu (mag.ik.nu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id azd7S6PdsKgx for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.3.215] (s53751670.adsl.online.nl [83.117.22.112]) by mag.ik.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E115A1021 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5214B6FB.9030707@ik.nu> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:47:55 +0200 From: Ralph Meijer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130803 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xmpp@ietf.org References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:48:12 -0000 On 2013-08-21 00:05, Ben Campbell wrote: > [..] > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support of the chartered work? > [..] Yes. -- ralphm From michal.piotrowski@erlang-solutions.com Wed Aug 21 05:58:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23CF11E80FC for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:58:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qef4UVco7pH0 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.erlangsystems.com (zimbra.erlangsystems.com [93.93.131.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D615B11E8209 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 05:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.erlangsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB33ED142BA for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:58:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from zimbra.erlangsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.erlangsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id vUrELyb7UKmi for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:58:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.erlangsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23CDD142B2 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:58:48 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.erlangsystems.com Received: from zimbra.erlangsystems.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.erlangsystems.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id OpfClNddzKnd for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:58:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from [10.152.0.51] (unknown [193.106.245.90]) by zimbra.erlangsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 64E73182E004 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:58:48 +0100 (BST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Piotrowski?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B50FC3D8-62FE-4052-8BAE-3C465C70D81B" Message-Id: <297182D3-2EB6-47C1-94A2-EC5536585EFE@erlang-solutions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:58:47 +0200 References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> <5214B6FB.9030707@ik.nu> To: xmpp@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <5214B6FB.9030707@ik.nu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:58:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B50FC3D8-62FE-4052-8BAE-3C465C70D81B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 2013-08-21 00:05, Ben Campbell wrote: > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 = as a work group item in support of the chartered work? +1 If are talking about websockets, how are you dealing with multiple tabs = opened by the user?=20 -- Best regards Micha=C5=82 Piotrowski michal.piotrowski@erlang-solutions.com --Apple-Mail=_B50FC3D8-62FE-4052-8BAE-3C465C70D81B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Should the XMPP work group accept = draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support of = the chartered work?

If are talking about websockets, how are you = dealing with multiple tabs opened by the user? 
michal.piotrowski@e= rlang-solutions.com


= --Apple-Mail=_B50FC3D8-62FE-4052-8BAE-3C465C70D81B-- From mamille2@cisco.com Wed Aug 21 06:34:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE7211E83A5 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:34:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iwcz1rrOKMFF for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89E811E80FB for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=7138; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1377092050; x=1378301650; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=9f143LDHyUb6SBlR26zEtzSvQFQqjcMMLkSs5MkwneA=; b=dC4B21Bmy5zih3AXpKu4HkUjMMY2eYBkroSowplN+63GvCn73XKMakOk mNoYC6EZewYncBRvFwcwOJATVPi7Ou/aW18+F+lDNlKCPjCxQHDiX2D7U S1160wiZIwKnZIdnbAQCzOt6aWzx7FCA94ImKyQTayFzay19me+sulWqr k=; X-Files: smime.p7s : 4136 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFACvBFFKtJXHB/2dsb2JhbABagwWBBr9agSIWdIIlAQEEeRACAQgiJAIwJQIEDgUIBogCrWeQJDEHgxt5A5AWgS6Xd4Mcgio X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,928,1367971200"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="249988585" Received: from rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com ([173.37.113.193]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Aug 2013 13:34:10 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x05.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x05.cisco.com [173.37.183.79]) by rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r7LDY81r028076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:34:08 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com ([169.254.6.124]) by xhc-rcd-x05.cisco.com ([173.37.183.79]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:34:08 -0500 From: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" To: Ben Campbell Thread-Topic: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket Thread-Index: AQHOnfFsTrAxgobQMUePM9Yzyff6uJmf/igA Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:34:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.48] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E6721E75-636A-4979-9EE9-F9AE159299EF"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 13:34:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E6721E75-636A-4979-9EE9-F9AE159299EF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > (as chair) >=20 > Hi, >=20 > The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket = subprotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual = milestone--the chairs have been remiss on updating those. But it's in = the charter text, really! ) >=20 > Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've = had a fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list. >=20 > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 = as a work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that = acceptance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely = correct or complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a = good start towards the milestone. >=20 > Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next = week (31 Aug 2013.) >=20 Yes, the XMPP WG should accept this document. - m&m Matt Miller < mamille2@cisco.com > Cisco Systems, Inc. --Apple-Mail=_E6721E75-636A-4979-9EE9-F9AE159299EF Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMezCCBjQw ggQcoAMCAQICAR4wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwfTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0 Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNpZ25pbmcxKTAn BgNVBAMTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTA3MTAyNDIxMDE1NVoX DTE3MTAyNDIxMDE1NVowgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSsw KQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFy 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Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 16:18:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8/21/13 6:58 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > On 2013-08-21 00:05, Ben Campbell wrote: >> Should the XMPP work group accept >> draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in >> support of the chartered work? > +1 > > If are talking about websockets, how are you dealing with multiple > tabs opened by the user? That's a difficult issue and it probably isn't even something we can solve in the XMPP Over WebSocket specification. But discussion is welcome (I've branched off a new thread for that purpose). 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[71.84.176.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s5sm9506317pbo.38.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lance Stout Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ADAC2E88-0032-4889-929C-8BD0BE15762F"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Message-Id: <07C838D0-5A6D-4A0B-A742-D71A922BC8CE@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:20:13 -0700 References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> <5214B6FB.9030707@ik.nu> <297182D3-2EB6-47C1-94A2-EC5536585EFE@erlang-solutions.com> <5214E834.8090302@stpeter.im> To: xmpp@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <5214E834.8090302@stpeter.im> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: Re: [xmpp] multi-tabs (was: Re: Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket) X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:20:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ADAC2E88-0032-4889-929C-8BD0BE15762F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > If are talking about websockets, how are you dealing with multiple > > tabs opened by the user? > > That's a difficult issue and it probably isn't even something we can > solve in the XMPP Over WebSocket specification. But discussion is > welcome (I've branched off a new thread for that purpose). Right, any solution for this problem would likely be applicable across all "* over WebSocket" use cases. Having implemented XMPP over WebSockets in the browser, here's what I've learned so far: 1. Ignoring tabs at the moment, just navigating to a new page can be handled very quickly using Stream Management (XEP-0198) resumption if the ack data is preserved in something like localStorage. 2. Not giving special consideration to tab connections works remarkably well when using MAM (XEP-0313) and Message Carbons (XEP-0280). The only downside is that you have to do the entire stream startup unlike when doing session resumption. So the full a) auth b) bind c) roster (skippable if you use roster versioning) d) inbound presence e) inbound pep That said, if you are caching data locally for the origin domain (using IndexedDB, etc), then you can use that to bootstrap the UI while the initial data streams in, much like you would for session resumption. 3. If you really don't want a new connection per tab, things are very tricky at the moment. Running a WebSocket connection as a Shared Web Worker process doesn't appear to work, nor can a shared worker access the DOM methods needed to parse XML. But you can use them or window.postMessage to broadcast information from the tab that has the XMPP connection to other tabs. Of course if the tab with the connection is closed, things get fun very quickly :) -- Lance --Apple-Mail=_ADAC2E88-0032-4889-929C-8BD0BE15762F Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIM5jCCBjQw ggQcoAMCAQICASAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwfTELMAkGA1UEBhMCSUwxFjAUBgNVBAoTDVN0YXJ0 Q29tIEx0ZC4xKzApBgNVBAsTIlNlY3VyZSBEaWdpdGFsIENlcnRpZmljYXRlIFNpZ25pbmcxKTAn BgNVBAMTIFN0YXJ0Q29tIENlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gQXV0aG9yaXR5MB4XDTA3MTAyNDIxMDI1NVoX DTE3MTAyNDIxMDI1NVowgYwxCzAJBgNVBAYTAklMMRYwFAYDVQQKEw1TdGFydENvbSBMdGQuMSsw KQYDVQQLEyJTZWN1cmUgRGlnaXRhbCBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTaWduaW5nMTgwNgYDVQQDEy9TdGFy dENvbSBDbGFzcyAyIFByaW1hcnkgSW50ZXJtZWRpYXRlIENsaWVudCBDQTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAMsohUWcASz7GfKrpTOMKqANy9BV7V0igWdGxA8IU77L3aTxErQ+ fcxtDYZ36Z6GH0YFn7fq5RADteP0AYzrCA+EQTfi8q1+kA3m0nwtwXG94M5sIqsvs7lRP1aycBke 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: XMPP Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:23:47 -0000 On 20/08/2013 23:05, Ben Campbell wrote: > (as chair) > > Hi, > > The XMPP working group has a chartered work item to define a WebSocket subprotocol for XMPP. (Please ignore the lack of an actual milestone--the chairs have been remiss on updating those. But it's in the charter text, really! ) > > Lance recently submitted draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04. We've had a fair amount of discussion of previous versions on the XMPP list. > > Should the XMPP work group accept draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket-04 as a work group item in support of the chartered work? Keep in mind that acceptance does not mean the work group thinks the draft is absolutely correct or complete. It merely means that we think that the draft is a good start towards the milestone. > > Please send your opinions to the XMPP working group by the end of next week (31 Aug 2013.) I support adoption of this document by the WG. From dave@cridland.net Thu Aug 22 11:25:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482AE11E81C5 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tXCvx4FbHJ5E for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-x236.google.com (mail-oa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308B611E81BA for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id o6so4223695oag.13 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cridland.net; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dJz3M6BrI42japJBxuxTCvQmsfoZj16pg0XsFO4HIiY=; b=byI9cfxbz21ojd38Q2seqrV5xfxmF20kPe4vo0kssAFqa+H17krRW70XK7h4m3uHjj i4MDS01wL63dHEEel4GqfpmyRJX3esc7AdzfB0cFNqCw+YVWaKbJquWZf79S1V+qSY0r fbRBwaVhXaiQOiLrje7yyyypKAjwYUT4/HS08= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dJz3M6BrI42japJBxuxTCvQmsfoZj16pg0XsFO4HIiY=; b=ikZK6D1fo/hymNRBDs+RCLP8ClvZJli9/Kkpo+fawUeCezlXsuO9l7+8MQnEoB9sg+ vy1/fHa1YE+UgxPnINalbp9EwhiyqSKQGU7okMWzO9G6emlVYIrAvjIawR5SuB8b+SM2 ORiyE6UNwGtfqMhSMZCG1GOeJ+b1IcsGcxF1C0tDSBhvTERBQajgGYMkoSoLieNMptLo Rh7sPmSmXWAoaIS46MoFR6jzjRPNhVPfyKrqk9Er7SvZOUJMSqidho/2JZMTP2HyFfrm fXdmNLALEvmrejA8AUY8IdXzhBDiQfhGpku+l+TrtHjgXtmUJGzcV7tMwriYv3kbob9J iZGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlyJ413OsoC8RR88l/k6vQFasanQwhFHh4Ex3CycSvUs0N+CbmA1PWhqaoN/jOWj5MYh91u MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.247.68 with SMTP id yc4mr15757939obc.67.1377195946718; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.121.97 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.121.97 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5216574E.3080705@isode.com> References: <03C5234F-7DEE-4EFD-AFDF-C2CBF53BD099@nostrum.com> <5216574E.3080705@isode.com> Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:25:46 +0100 Message-ID: From: Dave Cridland To: Alexey Melnikov Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e015384d630d4bd04e48d6b21 Cc: XMPP Working Group Subject: Re: [xmpp] Consensus Call : Adoption of draft-moffitt-xmpp-over-websocket X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:25:52 -0000 --089e015384d630d4bd04e48d6b21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm willing to work on this, and would be happier if it were a working group effort. --089e015384d630d4bd04e48d6b21 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

I'm willing to work on this, and would be happier if it were a working group effort.

--089e015384d630d4bd04e48d6b21-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Wed Aug 28 08:51:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xmpp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40B721F9BD3 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:51:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3giEBt9aglF8 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D610321E804E for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ergon.local (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BDCB4150A; Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:54:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <521E1C5E.2060805@stpeter.im> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 09:50:54 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: XMPP References: <20130828154603.a94201dea74f29229b4767b2@jprs.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20130828154603.a94201dea74f29229b4767b2@jprs.co.jp> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130828154603.a94201dea74f29229b4767b2@jprs.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [xmpp] Fwd: [precis] WGLC: draft-ietf-precis-framework-09.txt X-BeenThere: xmpp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: XMPP Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:51:03 -0000 FYI. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [precis] WGLC: draft-ietf-precis-framework-09.txt Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:46:03 +0900 From: Yoshiro YONEYA To: precis@ietf.org Dear all, This message starts two weeks Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on draft-ietf-precis-framework-09.txt (PRECIS Framework: Preparation and Comparison of Internationalized Strings in Application Protocols). Please review the document and send comments to the list (precis@ietf.org), the co-chairs (precis-chairs@tools.ietf.org), or the authors (draft-ietf-precis-framework@tools.ietf.org) by the end of WGLC. The WGLC will end on Wednesday, Sep 11th. Regards, -- Marc & Yoneya, co-chairs _______________________________________________ precis mailing list precis@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/precis